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== Why were Walter Wetzel and Two Guns White Calf omitted? ==
==Based in Ashburn, Virginia==


Why is there no mention of the instigator of the original logo, Walter Wetzel, from the Blackfeet Nation?
The Washington Redskins are headquartered in Ashburn, VA. I'm going to change to box at the bottom (similar to what the New York Jets have).


https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/07/a-native-american-designed-washingtons-logo-now-his-family-want-it-back
== Name Controversy Again... ==
I trimmed it down today, removing unessential details of the court case, etc. I'm sure some won't be happy about it. But, work with me and we'll get it done. It needs it. Especially now that it's protected. Cheers. ] (]) 17:04, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
:I do not see any evidence of cleanup of this section, so I have basically re-written it based upon the newer material and better sources in the main article. I think the main issues covered before my edits remain. I am surprised that there was nothing added about the Original Americans Foundation or the RedskinsFacts.com website.] (]) 20:50, 9 November 2014 (UTC)


And no mention either of the person who was the inspiration for the illustration.
== External links modified ==


https://en.wikipedia.org/John_Two_Guns_White_Calf
Hello fellow Wikipedians,


Seems[REDACTED] wants to completely erase Native Americans' connections to the franchise. ] (]) 11:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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::I'm afraid the page is protected and cannot be edited, at least I have no such privileges. ] (]) 16:13, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
:::@] A mention of Mr Wetzel was added to the section "Redskins name and logo controversy" on May 16, apparently as a result of Senator Daines' testimony on the subject at a Senate hearing. I have added the link to John Two Guns White Calf and added an extra sentence based on the Guardian link you provided. Thanks for the suggestion. ]] 20:51, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Thank you very much! ] (]) 05:20, 7 July 2024 (UTC)


== Mark Rypien Ring of Fame ==
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Quarterback Mark Rypien was inducted into the franchise Ring of Fame in 2014
Cheers. —]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">]:Online</sub></small> 23:02, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
https://www.commanders.com/photos/mark-rypien-ring-of-fame-induction-14036593#41ba76fc-babf-4bc5-9a60-aff8be5df2f2 ] (]) 02:45, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
:<small>Checked by {{U|Bilorv}} at 17:49, 26 September 2015 (UTC)</small>
:{{done}} ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 03:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)


== Are a team vs Is a team == == NFL Hall of Fame Members ==


This article is about the Washington Redskins franchise. a singular unit, a singular team. ] (]) 05:05, 30 September 2015 (UTC) Darrel Green is not included in the list of Hall of Fame members for some reason. ] (]) 17:57, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

:So is the Washington Post wrong to say ? ''']''' 05:08, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
::Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia dedicated to venerability not to "sounding cool" We have higher standards than the Washington Post. ] (]) 05:11, 30 September 2015 (UTC) :Look again. He is listed (but with his name spelled correctly). ] (]) 18:13, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
::BTW, to follow up, the Hall of Fame members table is arranged somewhat strangely in that it goes across rather than down. I wouldn't object if someone else wants to rearrange that, but I don't feel strongly enough to bother doing it myself. ] (]) 18:45, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Every other sport team article uses "are". There are many grammar contradictions in the English language, even if this is technically one, it's never been an issue of debate, as far as I know. ~ ] (]) 05:14, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
:::It was done that way to avoid having to scroll. I made it more standard and also removed all the color cruft from the section. ~ ] <sup>(])</sup> 21:22, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
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::::What I meant about horizontal versus vertical was that it went across each row and then down to the next line (envision a stacked set of multiple instances of the letter "Z," as it were, to describe how you were to proceed if you wanted to read it in order) as opposed to going down one column and then back up to the top of the next column (envision two parallel instances of the pipe character). I've never really had reason to pay a lot of attention to how Misplaced Pages table formatting works, but I assume (without knowing for certain) that there is some automatic way to make a longer table split at roughly the halfway point so that everything after that point becomes a second column to reduce the need to scroll. That's what I was getting at by saying the table was arranged "somewhat strangely"—it wasn't arranged in that sort of way. I suspect the anonymous IP editor was reading down the left-hand column, didn't see Darrell Green listed, and didn't think to look at the other column. ] (]) 13:43, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::This convention is based on what is currently on ]: "Despite exceptions such as usage in ''The New York Times'', the names of sports teams are '''usually treated as plurals''' even if the form of the name is singular" (emphasis added). So both conventions are used in various reliable sources. And since you mention ], I should probably point out the third paragraph of that page, which says "Where more than one style is acceptable, editors should not change an article from one of those styles to another without a good reason". And so, I don't see a good reason of both are acceptable by reliable sources. And I do not see such rule on WP:MOS that basically implies, "We have higher standards than the Washington Post". ] (]) 05:25, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
:::::I think if you add "| cols = 2" at the beginning of the table will cause it to wrap to a second column. ] (]) 16:01, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2025 ==

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The teams playoff appearances needs updated to 24 to include the 2025 playoffs. ] (]) 01:46, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

:'''Not done.''' It’s correct the way it is, which you would have seen if you had clicked the link. The "2024" link leads to the 2024–25 season's playoffs, which are now in progress. ] (]) 02:54, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

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Why were Walter Wetzel and Two Guns White Calf omitted?

Why is there no mention of the instigator of the original logo, Walter Wetzel, from the Blackfeet Nation?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/07/a-native-american-designed-washingtons-logo-now-his-family-want-it-back

And no mention either of the person who was the inspiration for the illustration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/John_Two_Guns_White_Calf

Seems[REDACTED] wants to completely erase Native Americans' connections to the franchise. Hayden41 (talk) 11:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Hayden41:, feel free to add material if you think it is appropriate. That's what is great about Misplaced Pages; anyone can edit. meamemg (talk) 14:03, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
I'm afraid the page is protected and cannot be edited, at least I have no such privileges. Hayden41 (talk) 16:13, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
@Hayden41 A mention of Mr Wetzel was added to the section "Redskins name and logo controversy" on May 16, apparently as a result of Senator Daines' testimony on the subject at a Senate hearing. I have added the link to John Two Guns White Calf and added an extra sentence based on the Guardian link you provided. Thanks for the suggestion. rbrwr 20:51, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Thank you very much! Hayden41 (talk) 05:20, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Mark Rypien Ring of Fame

Quarterback Mark Rypien was inducted into the franchise Ring of Fame in 2014 https://www.commanders.com/photos/mark-rypien-ring-of-fame-induction-14036593#41ba76fc-babf-4bc5-9a60-aff8be5df2f2 68.131.65.35 (talk) 02:45, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done ~ Dissident93 03:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

NFL Hall of Fame Members

Darrel Green is not included in the list of Hall of Fame members for some reason. 65.190.59.4 (talk) 17:57, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Look again. He is listed (but with his name spelled correctly). 1995hoo (talk) 18:13, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
BTW, to follow up, the Hall of Fame members table is arranged somewhat strangely in that it goes across rather than down. I wouldn't object if someone else wants to rearrange that, but I don't feel strongly enough to bother doing it myself. 1995hoo (talk) 18:45, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
It was done that way to avoid having to scroll. I made it more standard and also removed all the color cruft from the section. ~ Dissident93 21:22, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
What I meant about horizontal versus vertical was that it went across each row and then down to the next line (envision a stacked set of multiple instances of the letter "Z," as it were, to describe how you were to proceed if you wanted to read it in order) as opposed to going down one column and then back up to the top of the next column (envision two parallel instances of the pipe character). I've never really had reason to pay a lot of attention to how Misplaced Pages table formatting works, but I assume (without knowing for certain) that there is some automatic way to make a longer table split at roughly the halfway point so that everything after that point becomes a second column to reduce the need to scroll. That's what I was getting at by saying the table was arranged "somewhat strangely"—it wasn't arranged in that sort of way. I suspect the anonymous IP editor was reading down the left-hand column, didn't see Darrell Green listed, and didn't think to look at the other column. 1995hoo (talk) 13:43, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
I think if you add "| cols = 2" at the beginning of the table will cause it to wrap to a second column. Assadzadeh (talk) 16:01, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

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The teams playoff appearances needs updated to 24 to include the 2025 playoffs. 174.31.81.202 (talk) 01:46, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Not done. It’s correct the way it is, which you would have seen if you had clicked the link. The "2024" link leads to the 2024–25 season's playoffs, which are now in progress. 1995hoo (talk) 02:54, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
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