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I am often busy in that "real life" of which you may have read.

Blocks are the most serious things we can do: they prevent users from interacting with Misplaced Pages. Block reviews are urgent. Unless I say otherwise in the block message on the user's talk page, I am happy for any uninvolved admin to unblock a user I have blocked, provided that there is good evidence that the problem that caused the block will not be repeated. All I ask is that you leave a courtesy note here and/or on ], and that you are open to re-blocking if I believe the problem is not resolved - in other words, you can undo the block, but if I strongly feel that the issue is still live, you re-block and we take it to the admin boards. The same applies in spades to blocks with talk page access revoked. You are free to restore talk page access of a user for whom I have revoked it, unless it's been imposed or restored following debate on the admin boards.

] also has my permission to undelete or unprotect any article I have deleted and/or salted, with the same request to leave a courtesy note, and I'll rarely complain if any uninvolved admin does this either, but there's usually ] about an undeletion so I would prefer to discuss it first - or ask DGG, two heads are always better than one. I may well add others in time, DGG is just one person with whom I frequently interact whose judgment I trust implicitly.

Any ] issue which requires you to undo an admin action of mine, go right ahead, but please post it immediately on ] or ] for review.

The usual definition of uninvolved applies: you're not currently in an argument with me, you're not part of the original dispute or an editor of the affected article... you know. Apply ]. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 20:55, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
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]I am in my early fifties, British, have been married for over quarter of a century to the world's most tolerant woman, and have two adult children. I am an amateur baritone and professional nerd. I do not tolerate racism, or any kind of bigotry. I sometimes, to my chagrin, mention that I have been an admin for a long time: some people think this is me invoking admin status in order to subdue dissent, actually it's just me as a middle aged parent of young adults saying "oh no, not this shit again". I am British, I have the British sense of humour (correctly spelled) and I absolutely ''do not'' have an accent, since I went to a ]. Everything I do or say could be wrong. I try always to be open to that possibility. If you think I am wrong, please just talk to me nicely, and it can all be sorted out like grown-ups. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 23:49, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
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:In addition to bone-deep burn scars on my left hand I now also have ], so my typing is particularly erratic right now. I have a spellcheck plugin but it can't handle larger text blocks. You're welcome to fix spelling errors without pinging me, but please don't change British to American spelling or indeed vice-versa.

I am am making a good faith best efforts attempt to close backlogged RfCs and other debates from ]. These are mainly backlogged because there is no obvious consensus, so any close will undoubtedly annoy someone. I invite review of any such close on ], where there are many more watchers than my talk page. I am happy to provide clarification of anything either here or on ANI, please ping me if it's at ANI - that exempts you from the ANI notice, IMO, and I prefer a ping to a talk page notice as the latter tends to spread discussion to multiple venues, which is a nightmare. Feel free to use "email this user" if I am not responding to a request (but remember I live in UTC, soon to be UTC-1). <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 23:29, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
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== ]! Are you still out there? ==
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Hi ]! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ]<sup><small><b>] ]</b></small></sup> 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC)


:I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year ]] 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
You are spot on .


::We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
Unfortunately it seems there's a lot of ] going around with regard to what is and is not ] in that arena.
:::October JzG sighting at ]. Does my heart good. --] (]) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
::::Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using ], and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020.
::::I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am.
::::I thought I'd drop in :-) ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! ] (]) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::Glad you dropped by! ] (]) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. ]] 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::If Guy doesn't look at ] real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - ]the ] 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
:::::::I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Misplaced Pages. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Misplaced Pages disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::::Very happy see the little JzG! ] ] ] 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC).
:::::Hah! Good to see you're still around! ] 20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. ''']] (])''' 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
:Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature ]. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, ]&nbsp;<sup><b>(])</b></sup> 11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)


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&mdash; ''']''' (]) 16:36, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
:Perhaps also consider the amount of weight given to ''Conspiracy theories'' at the much larger article, the ] rated page, ]. &mdash; ''']''' (]) 17:05, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
:: There we have the benefit of historical perspective. I am confident that in ten years time - if "clockgate" is remembered at all - the racists will get a bad press overall. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 17:09, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
:::Perhaps, I mean I haven't look into the talk page history at ] -- but there were probably some interesting back-and-forth to successfully keep out the batshit-crazy stuff, right? &mdash; ''']''' (]) 19:13, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
:::: Many. These articles were worse than e-cigs, GMOs and global warming put together, back in the day. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 22:22, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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It was an ignorant comment made somewhat aggressively by an IP user, but none of those are reasons to immediately ] a comment away, least of all by as "wibble" and then re-hatting and when another editor objected to you doing so. --] (]) 10:48, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
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:It is entirely worthless to the improvement of the article. Some random IP wandering past and bitching that we still follow reality-based sources is a thing we can and should ignore. I have no idea why you would want to give any prominence to the ravings of cranks. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 10:51, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
::No objection to someone like the "saucer nests" guy being hatted, but this IP was laying out a clear objection to the fact that the scientific consensus for hoaxing was sourced only to Skepdic. There was some wibbly posturing around it (which made me ignore it as the old ''"ahh, only 'most' scientists, so there is not a consensus!"'' thing at first glance), but it's a fair question. If we can swap in a stronger source, that improves the article, informs our readers and reduces the scope for future wibbling; if no stronger sources exist, we can explain ] and have a useful archive thread to point at next time. --] (]) 11:19, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
::: Clear, but specious, and non-actionable, and clearly stated from under a tinfoil hat. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 11:28, 29 September 2015 (UTC)


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I just don't get it. Each time I try to clear the detritus out of the fountain, you come rollerskating down the sidewalk and dump another pile of fresh-raked leaves right back in. Please - upload a bit of audio of one of your best performances so we can be happy again. I've got too much freaking work to do to waste time toasting stale bread. My time on WP is far more pleasant when I'm not forced to butt heads with those I truly do like and admire but the sentiment is beginning to wane. I don't want that to happen any more than you do, so do us both a favor and save the hogwash for the hogs. {{P|wink}} <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">]</font><sup>]]</sup> 21:16, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
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: Heh! You are, I think, missing the point. In arbitration cases you get some people who claim that user X is the spawn of Satan, some people claiming that they are Mother Teresa and Gandhi rolled into one, and some people who say, yes, this person has some issues, and a strong POV, but it is not material to this case and here's why. I think you need to be removed from that case. Arbitration cases are bruising and horrible for the parties, and frankly I don't think you need or deserve this one which will be particularly long and full of angry mastodons. As I have said before, I like you. I don't think much of your mate DrChrissy, but that's another matter. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 15:46, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
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::"Mate"?...followed by a big Scooby Doo "Huh?" The translation for mate in American English is the same as what biologists consider them. Where humans are concerned, a mate is thought of as one's ''significant other''. While I think DrChrissy is a delightful person, (1) we've never met and (2) our purposeful interactions on WP are/have been limited to TP fun-puns via text, some collaborative editing on a few animal articles, and some random intersecting at the occasional AN/I and/or RfC. Just want to make that very clear. I'm not sure if you realize it but some of your innuendos (well intentioned or not) can be far more damaging to my reputation than any case at ArbCom. Merciful Minerva!! 🙀 <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">]</font><sup>]]</sup> 18:00, 1 October 2015 (UTC)


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Earlier at ArbCom you mentioned it would be nice to have a list of edit counts to measure involvement. I put together some tables . I'm not 100% sure if or how I'll be including it yet, but I won't be getting my evidence section up until this weekend probably. Feel free to reference it in the meantime though or let me know if you think anything should be changed/added that could potentially be useful. ] (]) 06:32, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
* Following the ], the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: {{noping|CaptainEek}}, {{noping|Daniel}}, {{noping|Elli}}, {{noping|KrakatoaKatie}}, {{noping|Liz}}, {{noping|Primefac}}, {{noping|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, {{noping|Theleekycauldron}}, {{noping|Worm That Turned}}.
: Great stuff, thanks. That is quite illuminating. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 15:43, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
::Guy, what did you use to illuminate? A flashlight? {{P|bigrin}}. Great work, KOA - thank you for devoting the time to get that done. It should prove extremely helpful for those of us with overpopulated memories that lack any semblance of organization. <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">]</font><sup>]]</sup> 18:28, 30 September 2015 (UTC)


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I'd noticed vast amounts of what (in all probability) was misinformation and/or nonsense vandalism being added to several articles and was looking for a way to track down and fix it myself, or have someone better-placed do it.

You closed the request because it the vandalism wasn't ongoing right now. Unfortunately, this doesn't remove the drivel that's already likely been added to several articles. It's clear that some of the vandalising edits had been there for a long time and had become "baked in", i.e. become a part of the article with less chance of being spotted, and harder to remove as subsequent changes were built around them in the intervening months.

Given that the vandalism mentioned above took place over many months, it's quite possible that this will be ongoing in future. Given the use of dynamic IPs, it makes tracing all edits to all articles carried out by this person manually tedious and slow, especially since- as I mentioned- subsequent edits have been made that reduce the possibility of simple reversion without destroying legitimate content by others.

I'd hoped that I'd either receive some helpful suggestions (tools, techniques) to combat this, or that administrators might have access to tools or powers that made this task easier for you than for me. Instead, I got no real acknowledgement of the problem I was trying to fix, nor any attempt to provide some pointers before the request was closed. This was disappointing.

] (]) 18:05, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
: I appreciate your point - I would suggest you repost to ]. This does not require admin action (and a non-admin may have better tools for helping). ANI is a drama pit and best suited to straightforward things - we could semiprotect or block, but we don't do cleanup, really, at least not from ANI. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 18:26, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

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If I give you an extension to 1000 words, would you be able to cut 300 words to get down to it? --] &#124; ] 18:19, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
: I will have a go, sure. I can move some to Workshop, perhaps. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 18:24, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

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In addition to bone-deep burn scars on my left hand I now also have C7 radiculopathy, so my typing is particularly erratic right now. I have a spellcheck plugin but it can't handle larger text blocks. You're welcome to fix spelling errors without pinging me, but please don't change British to American spelling or indeed vice-versa.
JzG is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Misplaced Pages soon.

God Jul och Gott Nytt År!

Gråbergs Gråa Sång is wishing you the season's greetings.
Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's solstice or Christmas,
Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus,
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JzG! Are you still out there?

Hi JzG! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ~Oshwah~ 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year Girth Summit (blether) 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" Liz 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
October JzG sighting at WP:RSN. Does my heart good. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using Tenable, and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020.
I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am.
I thought I'd drop in :-) Guy (help! - typo?) 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! Johnuniq (talk) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Glad you dropped by! Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. Girth Summit (blether) 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
If Guy doesn't look at Talk:Alexander technique real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - Roxy the dog 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Misplaced Pages. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Misplaced Pages disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. Guy (help! - typo?) 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Very happy see the little JzG! bishzilla ROARR!! pocket 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC).
Hah! Good to see you're still around!  RasputinAXP  20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. starship.paint (exalt) 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature here. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, Arbitrarily0  11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

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Administrator changes

added Sennecaster
readded
removed

CheckUser changes

added
readded Worm That Turned
removed Ferret

Oversight changes

added
readded Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

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