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Why did you eliminate that pararaph in the last edit you made today in the "Afrikaner" article??? -- ] (]) 23:56, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Aflis}} I didn't change any article. I just corrected article to remove error in ], which means remove superfluous exit-reference. ] (]) mytime= Thu 08:03, wikitime= 00:03, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
== Template:Location map I need help ==
{{help me-helped}}
I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I just copied the model of Belgium from the help doc as instructed and put in my own values and it throws errors all over the place. Could it be that the map file I just uploaded to commons hasn't propagated down yet?


== Hmm ==
I may as well save this to "live" because no-one will be using it yet - I have stuff in my sandbox I don't want to lose - ]


Why the reference blanking ? You may have had good reason but the edit summary was entirely insufficient for such a significant and eyebrow raising edit. --] (]) 10:12, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Dweller}} Dead references were already not used – ]. Family = ] – ] (]) mytime= Fri 18:31, wikitime= 10:31, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
] (]) 15:07, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
::Gosh you're hard work to communicate with. Is it possible you could use full sentences and edit summaries that describe what you're doing? I think I understand this reply, except you've not removed extraneous info about his family, you've just removed the citations that referenced the information in that section. --] (]) 11:02, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Dweller}} <br />I had a stroke in April. I can read and hear fine, but writing or speaking is very hard. Sorry. – ] (]) mytime= Sat 03:30, wikitime= 19:30, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
::::Ah. That makes sense. Wish you well. --] (]) 13:22, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


== Paul Ryan ==
Sorry, whatever it was wrong has gone away. Must have been that propagate thing.
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I am working to create an independent positions page for Ryan, as so many politicians have. Nobody sees it due to the redirect, to right now, it is its own sandbox. It is ready to be completed, I just have to fix the reflist on the main page and I can execute the changes. <span style="border:2px solid #d69d36; background:#FFFFFF;">&nbsp;&nbsp;''']''' ]</span> 19:19, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Well it solved itself really. Could have been that I was previewing before I'd ever saved it. Who knows? ] (]) 16:15, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
: when you create a new location map, the display on the template page won't work until after it is created. once it is created, you then have to open it, make no changes, and hit "save page". this is to refresh the cache of the template. I know it sounds silly, but that's the way it goes. ] (]) 00:42, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


:{{ping|Spartan7W}} You should use your own sandbox – that's what it's for. ] (]) mytime= Mon 03:59, wikitime= 19:59, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
:: Just wanted to add that the method mentioned by Frietjes works, but I find it faster to have a "purge" link which accomplishes the same thing in one click. To add this just click Preferences, select the Gadgets tab, scroll down to the Appearance section, then select either "Add a 'Purge' tab to the top of the page, which purges the page's cache when followed" or "Add a clock in the personal toolbar that displays the current time in UTC (which also provides a link to purge the current page)". -- ] (]) 19:43, 2 December 2012 (UTC)


== Removal of citation on Dark Age of Camelot Article ==
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Can you please explain why you keep removing a citation from the Dark Age of Camelot Article? The first time you put only 'ce' in your edit description (I assume Copy Edit? But removal of content isn't a copy edit). The second time you gave no explanation.] (]) 04:10, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
I always believe in Third Normal Form - I don't want to supply data more than once. So for example how can I use the value I put in infoxbox:islands as elevation_m within a #expr ? Eg Distance to horizon in km = 3.57 * ((elevation_m)^0.5)<br />
Generaly, how do I reference data in a template outside the template, i.e. in the main page (or even, in a related page)?<br />
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:Do you mean referring to the same reference more than once in an article? To do this you can use 'name' parameter of the <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code> tags, eg. <code><nowiki><ref name="Reference Name"></nowiki></code>. <br>
::So the first reference would look like this: <code><nowiki><ref name="Ref1">Reference 1</ref></nowiki></code>.<ref name="Ref1">Reference 1</ref> <br>
::And subsequent references would look like this:<code><nowiki><ref name="Ref1" /></nowiki></code>.<ref name="Ref1" />


:] showed that ] (and '''{{font|color=red|size=95%|Cite error: A {{font|color=DarkBlue| list-defined reference}} named "jennings-macris" is not used in the content (see the {{font|color=DarkBlue|help page}}).}}''') has its substantive text removed, but not its associated reference. So it removes too. ] (]) mytime= Mon 18:32, wikitime= 10:32, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
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::Please put in a full edit summary.... It's confusing we don't know why you've done it and whether to revert or not. --] (]) 20:35, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
You mean I have to explicitly add a <nowiki><ref> ... </ref></nowiki> to each field I'm interested in? Like this? - <code>elevation_m = 40 <nowiki><ref "name=elevation_m"></ref></nowiki></code>. When I say reference I mean "use". I just want to pick up the value of elevation_m as defined in the infobox:islands to use in some sort of <nowiki>{#expr:</nowiki><br />] (]) 03:30, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br />


== Anderson ==
:I have given you the answer to a different question, I think I see what you mean now. You want to to be able to put data from the infobox parameters into the article as hotlinks so if you change the infobox value, the info in the article changes automatically, is that what you mean? As far as I know this is not possible, and it is easier to just repeat the information. Although in saying that you shouldn't need to repeat a lot of the information in an article, like elevation, because the whole point of infoboxes is to list that kind of information. -- ] 03:36, 13 November 2012 (UTC)


Can you explain why you about ]? I'm not sure it sure should be in there either, but without a solid reason to remove it I left it alone. Is there a policy on this type of information? Thanks. --] (]) 16:52, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
:Yes that's what I want to do. It's OK I suppose for fairly static data to be re-entered, such as elevation which isn't likely to change. Something like population though changes at each census or whatever, and it would be a bore to have to go through looking for all occurrences, and also open to error and/or omission. In infobox:settlement it is possible to re-use some info by putting it in brackets - (population) but that is not universal and I think only works inside the box.<br />:] (]) 04:17, 13 November 2012 (UTC)<br />


== November 2015 ==
:: Being able to re-use infobox parameters within the article text is a great idea, but to my knowledge we don't have such functionality at present. In regard to Patchy1's comment ("shouldn't need to repeat a lot of the information in an article, like elevation, because the whole point of infoboxes is to list that kind of information"), as per ], the ] is to "summarize key facts in the article in which it appears". Therefore details displayed in the infobox can and should appear in the article. -- ] (]) 20:15, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
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== Removal of 'Controversies' Section on the page of City Montessori School ==
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This is with regard to your edits on the page of 'City Montessori School' in the 'Controversies' section. I wish to point out that it wrongfully maligns the reputation of this well-known, world's largest school as per the Guinness Book of Records.
:The copyright information you have provided ] is sufficient. -- ] 05:27, 13 November 2012 (UTC)


I wish to present some references which present the facts:
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1. With reference to the allegation that CMS founder Dr Jagdish Gandhi stopped a Pakistani school from participating in 2014 International Students' Cricket Premier League, it may be noted that during that time, tensions were running high between India and Pakistan because of the beheading of some Indian s oldiers at the India-Pakistan border. Due to the security concerns prevailing during that period, especially when anti-Pakistan sentiment was high, the school management was not sure if it was the right time for Pakistani children to come to India. Later, it was found that the student team from Pakistan was also denied visas by the Indian Embassy to travel to India. CMS is the only school in the world ever to receive the UNESCO Prize for Peace Education (in 2002) for its work to unite warring countries in order to secure a safe future for the children the world over. As well as its pen friends program (“Aao Dosti Karein”) with children in Pakistani schools, CMS has invited, welcomed and hosted a large number of delegations from Pakistani schools over the years.{{efn-lg|{{cite news|last1=Hindustan|first1=Times|title=Message from Pak students: Aaodosti karein…|url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/lucknow/message-from-pak-students-aao-dosti-karein/story-E5X94AhghGiy2O3R05jrGO.html|accessdate=2 November 2015|agency=HT Correspondent}}}}{{efn-lg|{{cite news|last1=Dubey|first1=Mohit|title=It's Shah Rukh and Metro over Kashmir for Pakistan's Gen Next|url=http://www.theweekendleader.com/Culture/1402/let's-be-friends.html|accessdate=2 November 2015|agency=IANS|date=8 November 2012}}}}{{efn-lg|{{cite news|last1=PISHAROTY|first1=SANGEETA BAROOAH|title=Pals we are!|url=http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-metroplus/pals-we-are/article3787052.ece|accessdate=2 November 2015|agency=The Hindu|date=18 August, 2012}}}}{{efn-lg|{{cite news|first1=Correspondent|title=Math whizz brings home a bronze medal from India|url=http://tribune.com.pk/story/481389/math-whizz-brings-home-a-bronze-medal-from-india/|accessdate=2 November 2015|agency=The Express Tribune|date=19 December, 2012}}}}{{efn-lr|{{cite web|last1=Vimeo|title=Dear CMS Lucknow, Hello!|url=https://vimeo.com/55268616|website=Vimeo.com|accessdate=2 November 2015}}}}{{efn-lg|{{cite news|last1=Live|first1=TV India|title=Grand inauguration of Confluence-2013, an International Festival of World Unity and World Peace|url=http://tvindialive.org/grand-inauguration-confluence-2013-international-festival-world-unity-world-peace/|accessdate=2 November 2015|agency=TV India Live|date=7 December 2013}}}}{{efn-lg|{{cite news|last1=Report|first1=Staff|title=Pakistanis light 'candle of peace' in Lucknow|url=http://archives.dailytimes.com.pk/national/21-Aug-2006/pakistanis-light-candle-of-peace-in-lucknow|accessdate=2 November 2015|agency=Daily TImes|date=21 August, 2006}}}}{{efn-lg|{{cite news|last1=Dubey|first1=Mohit|title=Kids blame media for portraying India and Pakistan as enemies|url=http://www.theweekendleader.com/Culture/1402/let's-be-friends.html|accessdate=2 November 2015|agency=The Weekend Leader}}}}
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2. The allegation about the school hiking the fee gives a partial and imbalanced picture. The full press release at of says, "With 20 branches, City Montessori School (CMS) has hiked the nursery, Montessori and kindergarten (KG) fees by 16% compared to last year. The school management has increased the fee for other classes by less than 10%. " The fact about the school increasing the fee only by less than 10% (8% to be more accurate) has been hidden from the material on the ‘Controversies’ page. CMS is probably the only school which is so transparent about its fee structure that it publishes a dossier every year clearly stating the new fee for various classes for the session. No other school probably publishes the fee dossier for the benefit of its parents and the public.
I just created ] but now realise I should have left out the comma. {{helpme-helped}}
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3. With regard to CMS refusing admission to 13 poor children under the RTE Act (Right to Education Act) and the contempt notice by the Allahabad High Court in September, 2015, the fact is that the school had approached the Supreme Court of India to appeal against the decision of the Allahabad High Court, and to make such an appeal for a ‘stay’ against a lower court’s order is legal under Indian law. The school itself had approached the High Court first against the directive of the Basic Education Officer in April 2015 to admit 31 poor children as that directive was not in accordance with the legal state rules for the implementation of RTE Act. It is not unlawful anywhere in the world to approach the courts against the directive which are not found in accordance with law. Once the Supreme Court's directive came, the school immediately admitted the said 13 children the very next day, as is evident from the press release here.{{efn-lg|{{cite news|last1=Network|first1=Times News|title=http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com//Article.aspx?eid=31813&articlexml=CMS-admits-13-poor-kids-on-SC-directive-30092015002028|url=http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com//Article.aspx?eid=31813&articlexml=CMS-admits-13-poor-kids-on-SC-directive-30092015002028|accessdate=10 November 2015|agency=Times of India|date=30 September, 2015}}}} The matter is still sub-judice before the Supreme Court with the last order of the court saying that the 13 schools should be admitted forthwith as an interim measure so that their education does not suffer, however, should there be found vacancies in other nearer schools in the vicinity of the residences of the children (as claimed by the appellant), the Supreme Court may order the shifting of these children to those nearby schools.
:Create the new category and put {{tl|db-g7}} on the old one. -- ] 09:30, 13 November 2012 (UTC)


4. With regard to the matter of slapping of a student by a CMS teacher causing him to bleed from one ear and a subsequent filing of a police complaint against him, the fact is, a thorough enquiry was conducted by the CMS management in the case and it was found that though the teacher had indeed slapped the student. While CMS does not condone the action of the teacher the behavior of the student (snatching the lunch-box of a much younger student and throwing it) leaves much to be desired. The student later apologized to the teacher for his behaviour and the parents withdrew the police case against the teacher. The teacher in question also submitted his clarification and an apology. The school has a zero-tolerance policy towards corporal punishment and this is strictly enforced.
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I sincerely hope the above clarifications are sufficient to establish that the 'Controversies' section has been inserted with the intent to malign the reputation of a world-renowned school. Therefore, it is my earnest request to kindly remove the section from the page of 'City Montessori School' and oblige.
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:I am quite aware that this so-called school has nothing to do with the well-known Montessori School. – ] (]) mytime= Thu 03:28, wikitime= 19:28, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
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Can you explain why you are deleting my edit's that include reference's to your mom's house podcast???
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== Typhoon Nina (1968) == == Lawis ==


1630 and not 1830
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to: User:Unbuttered Parsnip Dont make any changes or jump into any statement as not true without showing any basis. I was in Lawis for a visit the structure in front of it was a memorial with its inscription that the Kota was built in year 1790. Basing from this then your 1830 edit will be untrue. on the upper hand I read book written during spanish time I found out that the structure was built in 1630 and not in 1790.... So I didn't follow the year 1790 as the founding date of the Kota which was posted by the municipality of Madridejos but the year 1630 as the founding date as narrated by fray Medina.


you changed facts claiming to be wrong but when ask about your basis or reference you are unable to provide. You are inconsistent with your edits, first the 1630 you change to 1830 then now changed it to 1790 and deleted some references. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:28, 24 November 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Spanish Peseta ==
:Learn have to make comments. Stop putting you ] in real pages. You have any basis on your nonsense – you ignore reality and choose instead a web blog. De Medina (and Blair & Robertson) had nothing about Lawis, obvious because there is not settlement there. And you have least three different people, unless one man is about 200 years old. And I've been there to Madridejos many times. - ] (]) mytime= Wed 07:53, wikitime= 23:53, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


== Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion ==
Sorry, I did not mean your edition when I wrote "undoing vandalism", but whoever came before you and changed "Peseta española" to "Peseta mexicana". Then you did some format change to that, so I undid both changes, but did not realised the additional removal of the "Pegged by" line. That removal is not right, anyway; it is "pegged by", not "pegged to", which is the opposite. Those minor currencies were indeed pegged to the Spanish peseta.--] (]) 15:09, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
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The comment you left when reverting my edit called two editors "stupid". If you read ] you will see "Comment on content, not on the contributor". Thank you. ] (]) 04:56, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
I looked over a couple of articles that you have been editing. I upgraded ] to C-class because it does seem pretty well cited and informative. If you think it should be higher, it would really be better for the specific projects themselves to reassess. Or at least someone who has more experience assessing B-class or higher articles. Thank you for your work! -- ] (]) 16:25, 3 December 2012 (UTC)


:{{ping|Walter Görlitz}} Any editor who takes starts with an article syntactically correct and then leaves the article in an {{font|size=115%|color=red|text='''Error'''}} status is what I call "stupid", and/or blind. Nothing to do with ]. – ] (]) mytime= Tue 17:00, wikitime= 09:00, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your time. I was going to reply earlier, but the internet was off all night (this is China - anything can happen!). Regarding ], in fact barangay was already wikified in the infobox, and my understanding was that wikilinks shouldn't really appear more than once. I am in fact generally puzzled by infoboxes - my thinking is that they should provide at-a-glance basic info, and the article itself should provide something more substantial, whereas others say the infobox should merely contain a summary of facts embedded in the article. This seems rather pointless, apart from duplication, it means that a lot of key information needs to be hunted out by the enquirer.


:: It has everything to do with NPA. It is unacceptable to insult editors in edit summaries or on talk pages. Stop it. ] (]) 09:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
I am puzzled too about the assessment criteria of the projects - how does ] qualify for A-class by the islands project?


::{{ping|Boghog}} Nothing to do with NPA: maybe you should read it again. Or for the first time. There seem be some editors think it's good to change text from correct to incorrect and not think even to check their balls-up. Quite a lot of them. Not many though cry to their mothers when they're told off. Now fuck off. – ] (]) mytime= Wed 01:16, wikitime= 17:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
I don't know what happened to the table of birds - previously it showed fine, now it doesn't. And it doesn't in history either! Very puzzling.


] (]) mytime= Tue 10:24, wikitime= 02:24, 4 December 2012 (UTC) ::: Your attitude is completly unacceptable. It has everything to do with NPA. Please read it again. ] (]) 17:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC)


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Seems like column widths specied in em no longer work, so I changed them to px, which I don't care for.
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I was hoping you'd remove some (all) of the of the hidden categories to do with references/citations, so that box doesn't show at the top.


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:Concerning article assessments, a good bit of it is subjective. Some of the wikiprojects have more specific guidelines and generally, the higher you go up the "class" ladder, the more specific requirements there are. Unfortunately, sometimes people have put their class assessments on some articles without regard to any actual guidelines. If you disagree with some assessment, or, at least, question it, it is best to post a question about it on that article talk page and/or at the associated project talk page. -- ] (]) 16:57, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
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:Regarding the infobox and linking of terms in an article: Yes, the term should generally be linked only once in the article text. This does not include the infobox though. Infoboxes usually should have the terms linked there as well. ] has info about linking. I'm not sure where the confusion of what goes in the infoboxes comes from. Providing both at-a-glance basic info and a summary of facts in the article is not contradictory. The infoboxes themselves are generally summaries of facts contained in the articles. However, it depends on the type of infobox. Sometimes it includes stuff not in the article (and, if so, should have a cite with it). I would say, for now, just keep adding what you think should be in it. If others disagree, they'll take it out and provide reasons why. -- ] (]) 16:57, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
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:As far as the refimprove hatnote on ], that doesn't depend on any hidden coding. I just left that on at the time because, even though you had added a lot of references, it appeared to have several sections still unreferenced completely or depend on one ref that doesn't cover all the info there. That's why I left it instead of adding much more code pointing out all the different places that needed refs. Thank you. -- ] (]) 16:57, 4 December 2012 (UTC)


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::Thanks for your brief bio. Knowing Edinburgh so well, I feel a great empathy. B&B in Leith? Boy, you must have had a hard time (unless it was in the Hermitage area facing the Links). Annandale Street - hardly a tree in sight and yet it was originally the (second) location of the Botanics before they moved to Inverleith. The little green park you may remember from around the corner has been nicely spruced up with a little tree named after Charles Darwin. I used to play there on a bike when I was a kid. It was really neglected then. And having to face the climb up Gloucester Lane first thing in the morning! That takes fortitude, although it is a shortcut. See if you recognise this ] And you may also appreciate this caption ] Click on the link to the police cells before you say too much about your current host country's timeline position. I've done quite a few captions using McGonagall which you'll find if you put his name in the www.geograph search box, top right. Here's a good starting point ] You know, I think the guy was very clever. I thought, when I was younger, that he must have been some kind of buffoon, but on closer acquaintance with his life and work I realise it was all a big music-hall style act that earned him a living during what was for most people very tough times in the struggle for survival. If you want to explore Stockbridge on that site, you'll find some very interesting phenomena, such as the mysterious leaf sculptures which appeared overnight a while back, only a stone's throw from Saunders Street. And, no, the blocks of flats haven't been replaced yet. If their predecessors were anything to go by, I'd give them another hundred years. A friend of mine was telling me recently how the kids in that area used to go along to Saunders Street with their fishing nets and try to capture the rats - before your time. But, back to the referencing. If you look at the Leith Links View history, you'll see I did try changing from book to journal, but saw no difference in the page display. Both seem to show the page numerals outside the citation, as I think they are meant to do. I must say I don't particularly like the style, but if it's normal on Misplaced Pages, I'll go with it. ] (]) 02:48, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
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:::I've seen your latest message and the one that was mistakenly posted to your talkpage when intended for mine (I think). I'm now set up with various options and will plump for the one I think best once I'm more familiar with them. I hope you had a wee wander through Stockbridge on www.geograph.org.uk and found stuff like this ]. Your comments on arriving in Edinburgh and living there reminded me of my foray south to London, probably, I'm guessing, when I was about the same age as you were when you arrived in Edinburgh. My equivalent of rain hitting you horizontally was getting up at what seemed like an unearthly hour in Ealing in the dark and travelling to work by Underground in the dark. I thought "this nightmare can't last". It didn't. I had a good year and a half in what can be quite a thrilling place, but a lonely one if you don't grow up there and know many people. Then, one day, a work colleague from Bermondsey, who was married to a Glasgow girl, said to me "What are you doing here anyway? Why don't you go back to Scotland and get a decent life?" He was right. I was living like a poor immigrants always do when they reach the metropolis. I was really no better off in terms of prospects than someone in a South American shanty town. I took his advice and have never looked back. Now my wannabe actress daughter is following in my footsteps, living in poverty in Camden. It depresses me when I see how she has to wrap up at night to go to bed rather than switch on a central heating system to keep warm (not that the rest of us can afford that nowadays!). ] (]) 11:10, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

:Just back from an afternoon's exploration of the area around the Grange, mainly to get a photograph for the ] page I wrote up the other day. Re your last message: Now that's spooky. I lived and worked for a short time in Acton. I can't remember the address but the view from my room overlooked the old Ealing Studios. I liked the Ealing shopping area, even though I didn't know at that point that the Stones had started playing in John Mayall's Blues Club in the High Street before they were 'discovered' at the Crawdaddy Club in Richmond. Wish I had known. That would have been a shrine for official fan club member No.1783 (or thereabouts - I reckon there were more than that in the queues at the Crawdaddy). I worked at the time in a nondescript industrial estate in Acton, working out on a slide rule bonuses for drivers distributing Younger's Ales (hence the Scottish connection). Unfortunately, an industrial dispute blew up and the workers identified me, rather unfairly, with management. One night as I left work a lorry returning from the Thetford Depot swerved close enough to me that I had to pin myself against a wall to save myself. That's when I thought it was time to go and, luckily, I landed a humble job with Reuters in Fleet Street. That was much more civilised, but I still had to wander through the danger spots of Peckham after moving there (almost as dangerous as Leith). ] (]) 17:39, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
:::I don't remember a school. I was in a bedsit in a detached house on the east side of the studio lot (the road running north-south - is that North Acton Road?) and seem to remember a lane and entrance to it which I assume from memory must have run between the houses. There was never any and coming and going, so I suspect this was a back entrance. It was a BBc studios, which I assumed they'd taken over from the old Ealing Film Studios. I'll check it some time on Streetview, but right now I'm very preoccupied with trying to improve, i.e. totally rewrite the Burgh Muir page. ] (]) 14:58, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, I replied ]. --] (] / ]) 12:24, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

== Misplaced Pages:Tambayan_Philippines/History_of_the_Philippines_(citations) ==

responded on my talk page. ] (]) 23:14, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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== How far back? ==

The most complete coverage I know of, at and , is as follows:

Atlantic (NHC) 1851

West Pacific, North Indian Ocean and Southern Hemisphere (JTWC) 1945

East Pacific (NHC) 1949

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== Ylla: Hatari! ==

Greetings and thank you for including the film Hatari! and how Ylla's life and activities inspired Howard Hawks. This is welcome news. I am Ylla's godson and have written a biography that will accompany a selection of her best photographs, soon to be published, and would like to include more information on Hatari! if it is available (had she met Howard Hawks, etc). This example is an important manifestation of memory and the extent of her continued popularity after her death.

I created this web page to help promote Ylla within the world of photography and publishing. You will notice that I moved your insertion further down the page, as I want to first present information directly related to her contribution to photography (Julian Huxley wrote the introduction to her most important book of animal portraiture and Charles Rado was her agent turned executor who created her career).

Thank you in advance for your understanding.

Sincerely,

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== user Johnbastias for entry Fotos Politis ==

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== Need to report persistent vandalism ==
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It contains an item about an ongoing dispute,basically students+faculty V admin

It has proper citations.

It has been reverted three times in the last 24 hours by user PCC1924, who I believe is within the admin of '''P'''asadena '''C'''ity '''C'''ollege (which was founded in 1924). This use has no user page nor talk page, so I'm not sure how to send any warnings.

The three reversions were once of the original posting, and twice of mine. (The page came to my attention because I work on ])

User needs to be warned/blocked

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== "the bot is a vandal" ==

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I'm using mobile internet, in the Philippines

That IP address is nothing like what appeared in the original message. I've been editing all day.

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Is the above true, or just a spoof? I've done nothing more, but am able to carry on editing. It seemed like a dodgy page I was trying to roll back at the time - ]

Everything seems OK, and I carry on editing like before, although I've had no admin contact.

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==Bantayan, Cebu==
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In , you marked the page for speedy deletion and left the reason, "lacking in everything".
This isn't a valid criteria for speedy deletion and speedy deletion isn't like PROD where almost any reason can be given. It wouldn't even qualify for A1 or A3 which are the closest criteria to your reasoning.

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== thank you for correcting my article ... ==

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thank you for editing my page! Some citations are there more than once, because many different publications has been published in one book (journal, etc.).
you are doing a great job!
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== map width ==

I, personally, think it's odd that the location map in articles like ] is narrower than the other images. if you agree, we should really start a thread at ] or some other centralized location. I tried to revert some of the edits that made the map more narrow, and received some backlash from the editor who introduced the change. ] (]) 19:55, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

:You mean the location with Phils map? I don't like that at all, because the shading makes it hard for me to see anything, and like you say, it's narrower. The alternative would be to replace it with one wider, which implies taller.

:That editor has made several changes with which I disagree, claiming some sort of standardisation. I think anything which removes knowledge or functionality is a bad move - Misplaced Pages is a fount of information (or should be), not a fashion magazine. He is not amenable to any sort of criticism, and basically in my view, has made several pages completely ugly, partly by moving pictures away from their subject, thus opening up a lot of white space. I think the demographics population change box, apart from also being ugly, has some demonstrably dubious mathematics. I think the basic subdivision title should be 'barangay' not 'barangays'. I don't like galleries in general, because they divorce pictures from their topics, and also because they offer unviewable pictures little larger than a postage stamp.

:How do you suggest we go about any move?

:] (]) mytime= Thu 06:54, wikitime= 22:54, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
:: perhaps start a thread in some centralized location, make some suggestions about what should be the standard format, and then go from there. we could start with say the format of the infobox, or other common sections. we could mention that ] that suggests that images should be located near text, etc. I will start watching your talk page, so you don't need to use the wb or tb templates, unless you want to do so :) ] (]) 23:29, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

::My trouble is I find it hard to be nice to people I don't like, and I find this user one of a small group who act according to their own personal notions, make destructive contributions rather than mending things which are broken. If you start a talk I'll follow you. ] (]) mytime= Thu 12:55, wikitime= 04:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

It is interesting that my efforts to create consistent infoboxes and information are considered "destructive". Frietjes, we may disagree on the pushpin mapsize, but you are equally concerned about having a "consistent appearance across all of WP". I am merely following the pattern that was established by community consensus long before my involvement. Until a new consensus is reached in the wider community, that's what I do. But looks like John's critism is purely subjective, using words like "ugly" and "I don't like". -- '''<font color="#199199">]</font>'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>]</big> 14:23, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

My understanding was that I am able to express my own opinions on my own talk page.

I think ''any'' intervention which removes valid information from a working page is destructive. Case in point is removal of 'military time zones'. That is a simple and well-used method for referring to local times without needing the technicalities of e.g. UTC+8.

I think as far as possible information should be presented in a single place, and that was what the infobox purports to be, as well as the page itself. The infobox is supposed to present information in a nutshell, with expansion of some in the article itself. No need to send the viewer off to other pages (such as commons) when the information could be presented at the origin. Gathering photos together arbitrarily to form a gallery is the opposite of helpful, and as ] says, not desirable. The images should be shown in context.

Including information which is demonstrably false, as I have shown with {{tl|Philippine Census}}, is undesirable, regardless of the aesthetics of its presentation. Similarly offering information which is unviewable, such as the Philippine pushpin map, is a waste of page space. Not everyone views in wide-screen. Me for instance, with my 10" notebook, or a lot of people with tablets and smart phones. They don't want white space, they want succinctly presented info, obtainable with the minimum of clicks.

I haven't yet seen any evidence of any ''community consensus'' despite asking more than once. Standards only work if they are published and publicized. And of course open to development. Anything else is personal fancy.

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==Navotas local elections , 2013==
Hello and welcome to WikiPedia ! , please clarify why did you placed Deletion in the article, it can not be deleted because it has importance like other locations in the Philippines we need to have an article like that for the residents of Navotas.- ] (]) 05:25, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

I made it exactly clear - it has no notability whatsoever. There are elections all over the Philippines on that date. Why do you think your local election has any significance whatsoever?

] (]) mytime= Thu 13:48, wikitime= 05:48, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

==Navotas election==

I know that there will over election . but look at ] that will be the for the whole country. Look at other articles] ] ] are on ]. So you dont know about the Philippines. It significates importance . Thats the reason why it has '''LOCAL ELECTIONS''. Ok? - ] (]) 10:35, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Do you know how to speak filipino? -] (]) 10:52, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Eh ayun naman pala . marunong kang magsalita ng tagalog. taga pinas ka? di ka proud sa sariling bansa mo? . idedelete mo yung article. Metro Manila to dre ! Gumising ka. -] (]) 10:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

== 2013 local elections in the Philippines. ==

I deprodded your PRODs on provincial-level 2013 local elections in the Philippines; or at least jurisdictions that have larger population than ], where ] had already produced a KEEP vote. If you disagree on my deprods, try AFD again. I didn't touch the municipal/city-level elections as I'm mostly on the fence on retaining those; I won't be surprised though if someone else does.

As a rule, the "smallest" elections for which election articles are allowed to exist on their own are ] (or special elections). An example would've been ]; the district of ] has an electorate of just over 72,000. Compare that to municipal-level elections in the Philippines where I left the PRODS that have ~250,000; coincidentally, that's the minimum number of the electorate for electoral districts in the Philippines. –''']]]''' 12:07, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

== So, what you are going to say ? ==
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== ] ==

I've given Gian de la cruz a final warning. Any more disruptive editing will be escalated for Administrator intervention. ] (]) 19:47, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

:I'm glad he's been blocked. However, the period has been reduced from indefinitely to 48 hours. I'll keep watching to see if he tries anything more without following policy. Thanks for keeping watch with me! ] (]) 02:20, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

== Thanks again for editing help! ==

Hi, Johnmperry -- I hope this is posted in the right place! Thank you for the editorial guidance on my children's theatre article. I think I always say what has been done (edit, add ref, etc.,), but did not realize this was not considered a "minor" change. Consider my wrist slapped! Thanks, and please let me improve the thing -- my heart is in the right place! ] (]) 06:27, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

As you said, we learn from our mistakes -- so every day is an education for me! I appreciate it. ] (]) 20:14, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, can you please help me to make my article that is not an orphan page anymore? I have no idea how to organize it :)
Thanks in advance!
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Thanks for a quick answer!! Now I know more about it! I will try ...
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== ] ==

I'm definitely reverting that. Did you not see the IN CREATION flag that you deleted? Yes, the article is screwed up, in a lot of ways. Yes, it probably was ridiculously overlinked. If you notice from the list on the talk page, (and the edit history, yes, it's long) we've had like four different people collaborating on this, and other people giving input.

You deleted my hidden note, the in creation flag, half a damn paragraph leaving a sentence fragment, and an entire citation. Pay attention to what the hell you are doing!

Also, some of the text you changed (for instance, the school has a dropped ceiling, but it is NOT an acoustic ceiling) specifically introduced incorrect statements into the article, and removed things that were correct (the 'preservation expert' IS specifically a historic preservation expert, which you deleted.

AS THE FLAG SAYS, DO NOT EDIT THIS ARTICLE UNNECESSARILY, and LOOK AT THE TALK PAGE FIRST!

Making this article (specifically, doing all the text) is part of a graduate school assignment for a brand new wikipedian. PLEASE do not screw with it. ] (]) 05:16, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I did see the {{tl|in creation}} flag, as well as the comment both of which I removed. (And so has another editor subsequently).

Yes I took out a lot of absurd wikilinks.

I don't know what half paragraph/sentence fragment you mean. Yes, I removed inappropriate material only peripherally associated with the article's subject, and that certainly included at least one citation.

Removing wikilinks does not change the text - the acoustical ceiling was already there.

Amongst the 128 edits over the previous two days, between you the project has not really moved forward. In fact backward. You also reverted the list of references which I had made from the various contortions in the text, and between you you saw fit to move them all back. For what end?

Any articles you write for Misplaced Pages should be complete when put live. Development should be in your sandbox, not in the live article.

Read ]. Read the documentation for the templates you use, including {{tl|dm}}, {{tl|cn}}, {{tl|rp}} and of course {{tl|in use}}. Also read ] and ]

] (]) mytime= Wed 18:55, wikitime= 10:55, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

:Several things.
::1. Though I originally wrote that note, I was not the one who put it there or hid it.
::2. I am well aware of WP:OWNER, and I am not the person who put it live. That was done by a brand new editor who posted the text she wrote in Word into the new article. Because of the nature of her assignment, we were trying to let her work on the text while other people worked on the formatting and such.
::3. When you messed with the references before the 10+ references to the nomination form were seriously broken, including missing section and page numbers. Other refs had also lost page numbers. The /original/ reference list included no inline cites, had 10+ references to 'ibid', etc.
::: The references now to that are templatized for both the NRHP citation itself, and use rp for the section and page numbers. The majority of the my edits were me slowly and carefully fixing the refs so I didn't lose data while fixing it.
:::I was specifically editing only sections to try to avoid edit conflicts, and so could not see the format of the references without committing the edit. Also, there were a /lot/ of incidental broken tags after fixing the refs that did not display errors until I commited the edit.
::4. As far as the 'half a paragraph with a fragment', sorry, that was a misreading of the way the diff was displayed. For some reason I was seeing splits that weren't there, and the bottom of the para was hidden off the screen. I apologize for that.
::5. The reference you completely deleted (the NHRP criteria) was not currently actually 'used' as a source, explicitly, except for the fact that the quote from the OTHER cite in that sentence was a direct quote from the criteria. I realized this last night, added the new source, and addressed on the talk page that the paragraph needed to be rewritten. The intent was to use about four quotes from it as lead ins to the sections of 'eligibity' that are specifically about how the school is 'special' in those ways. Deleting it was entirely unhelpful.
::6. You also deleted the ORIGINAL cite there, which was the reference for what criteria the school was approved under, leaving half the para with no cites.
Yes, ] and all that. Help with working on the article is welcome. Ignoring that there is a collaborative work on it going on, and making an edit with a summary that talks about OVERLINK but edits the text, is not.

As far as the templates, the 'data missing' was added when that cite had a page number that got lost in the conversion to inline cites, to remind me to dig it out of the edit history. I missed deleting it when I fixed the ref.
The 'citation needed' on the section is because that whole section, while sourced, is missing the specific citations.
When I was using the 'in use' flag, it was after I got edit conflicts that made me lose a LOT of work on fixing the refs, because of bot edits.
The 'nonstandard' use of the rp template was not added by me. It was initially added, after discussion, by another editor as the best way to deal with all the repeated cites to pages and sections of the nomination form. The nonstandard use is actually documented properly in the displayed citation, if you look at it.

As far as etiquette, when people ignore the Talk page and make edits with incorrect summaries, it admittedly tends to get a poor reaction from me. Also, because of the difference between the edit summary and what you actually did, if looked like you were being /extremely/ careless. ] (]) 13:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Please look at , specifically how the reference list was formatted BEFORE I spent several hours reformatting and debugging it. ] (]) 13:24, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

BTW, looking back, your version of the references was completely gone, and in the version I linked above, before I even got involved. The problem was that Gags had NO IDEA how to properly add references, and not all were in the text who you worked on it. ] (]) 13:37, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Actually, having my attention drawn to your version of the refs is helpful, and I thank you for that. Gags had lost metadata you added, and I can retrieve it from the old version instead of having to re-reserch it. ] (]) 13:55, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

== Apology ===

I owe you an apology for how I reacted. My excuse, to be honest, is that every single 'argument' I get into with another wikipedian has been the direct result of my seeing what appeared to be a refusal to discuss, including many ways I have tried to politely ask people to read or consider something before they do an edit. Like I mentioned, putting it as a 'hidden note' like that was not my idea (it was moved there by someone else with over 100,000 edits). I also get /really/ irritated when I am working on something, and someone uninvolved (your last work on this was prior to the /ton/ of work I've done on this) makes an edit that changes things that are only apparent from a diff.
: My tendency to get pissed off so quickly at things that have been a repeated issue like this is a personal failing, and a direct symptom of a medical condition I have. I need a HUGE injection of ] at times, not because of a feeling of 'ownership', but because of....well, lets skip the autopsychoanalysis.
: It was not my intent to 'block' or 'drive away' the input or collaboration of other editors. That is /always/ a good thing. It was my intent to let people know that there was an ongoing collaboration (though noone else is working now, and I was actually taking a break from that article for a while) about writing the entire article, and to.....communicate. ] (]) 20:53, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Apology accepted. As I said in my original {{tl|copyedit}} the article needs substantial pruning because it says the same things at least three times. In addition, there are irrelevancies which have no place in that article. And as for those absurd wikilinks ...

The way to move the article forward is '''not''' to revert contributions but to consider what they mean. And as I said, you ought to work out the article fairly fully before putting it live. That's what your sandbox is for.

I've got no idea which major this is meant to be a graduate assignment for. ] (]) mytime= Thu 09:48, wikitime= 01:48, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

:She mentions on her userpage that she's studying history, etc. She's not a 'computer' person at all, and trying to teach her how to do the actual editing in a 'more wiki friendly' way this point would make her even more confused. I got involved with this because she was repeatedly asking for help various places with how to do fairly basic 'technical' things. This was after her initial creation of the article. Take a glance at what she originally put live. The article was also initially misnamed.
:Because of the issues of how it was being edited by her, the citations were EXTREMELY screwed up. She had used 'ibid' inline, and then relocated the text without changing the cite. The ref tags were all in the right place, but nearly all of the citations were not to where they were supposed to be. When I was changing the cites with all those edits, I was actually specifically referring to the original text and tracing down the actual page of every citation.
:Because of the intricacy of the changes, and how long it was taking, there was a substantial period where another editor making ANY changes to the live article would have completely fucked it up again, or I would have been forced to blank all of their changes when I incorporated my fixes. The only way I could figure out to do it, and avoid edit conflicts (I had several during this process, with both Gags and bots), was to tendentiously edit and commit a huge number of small changes. This was EXTREMELY tedious.
:You're right about the text that was there, I was just trying to let her do the actual writing (I do NOT write copy, btw, I suck at it) and let other editors know that and why. She needs to actually learn how to do it, instead of just having it 'done'.
:Without actually rewriting anything but the lead, I completely reorganized the text and removed quite a bit of the redundancy. Hopefully it is a /lot/ better now, and I would appreciate you looking at it. The issue with the 'style' of the original text was huge, simply because it was written as a 'research paper' instead of a 'encyclopedia article'
:A long-standing point of aggravation with me is when editors undo something because it was 'incorrectly done' without actually doing it the right way, giving any feedback about how to do it the right way, or clearly communicating what they are doing. Honestly, trying to avoid conflict over things like that is a large part of why, over the 7 years or so I've been contributing to WP, I've in the past not gotten involved with the 'community' here at all and just done 'invisible' things like adding data to the infoboxes on asteroid stubs. (There are a /ton/ of those, that are horrible because they are nothing but an infobox, and not even marked as a stub. I think they were created automatically. At least the infoboxes are correct on a bunch now). ] (]) 20:10, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

::As my name says, right now I'm in transit, but should stabilise in a couple of days. Not sure about internet though! Then I'll take a considered look at the article, when it should itself have stabilised too.

::I was going to set up a {{tl|cite isbn}} for Salge, but saw you'd beaten me to it. And you'd made the same mistake I did - change the name to include the check-digit!

::One thing I hate is those editors who are out to notch up their edits score, so make inane and pointless changes but don't stop to check the results, so ] often shows the result. Bots which remove multiple spaces, which are there for a reason; changing the sequence of references (so they're ascending) without moving any associated {{tl|rp}}; etc. Things which would perhaps be OK as part of a larger edit, but in themselves are not the slightest bit constructive. I imagine your asteroids are in there. I have the same with very small villages in Eastern Europe or further east, with no notability whatsoever, or bottom-ranking professional sportspeople whose only claim to notability is that they once kicked a ball in a park.

::] (]) mytime= Fri 07:46, wikitime= 23:46, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

== Notdirectory vs notable buildings ==

Hi Johnmperry, I am familiar with Notdirectory, but the churches you removed from two neighbourhoods of Montevideo do not seem to fall under that policy. When we describe a populated place we usually include among other its main street(s), main square(s), monuments, landmarks, museums, churches, educational institutions, sport venues, tourist attractions, rail stations (and more generally transport system), main hospitals and more. These are not "loosely associated topics", but very much connected to the place described and make it be what it is. When we come to hotels, supermarkets, gasoline stations, cinemas and so on, then we do enter the yellow pages area and I can see how the Notdiectory policy applies. Even in this policy section it is mentioned "Of course, there is nothing wrong with having lists if their entries are famous because they are associated with or significantly contribute to the list topic." "Places of worship" is a valid topic/section for a populated place and its cathedrals contribute to the topic. ] <small>]</small> 08:16, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

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for all german fossil energy reserves from governement. In germany BGR stands reserved for that !

http://en.wikipedia.org/Berlin-Bonn_Act is with same link without artcile written already !
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== {{tlx|ACTinttop}} ==

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The template is a shorthand way of writing the inputs to a larger template, not for testing.

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:Yes, can you please explain why you thought this was a "test"? It certainly does not fall under G2 - G2 is an obvious test like random sentences or words in the mainspace on a newly created article. --''']]]''' 11:30, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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== CSD declined ==

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== IOS 3 ==

Hi why did you undo ] it was not Vandalism because if you say that was Vandalism you should look at ] and ] and ] and ] ] (]) 17:06, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

== Guillemont ==

Thanks for the tidy-up, I hadn't a clue where the errant reflist template should go. ;O).] (]) 22:21, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

==Cite journal to cite PMID==
Unsure why you made this change? Usually we at WPMED use cite journal. ] (] · ] · ]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:03, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
::Is there consensus for your change? How is this standardizing them when every other ref is expanded like this? ] (] · ] · ]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 21:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
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Apparently what happened is that ] started by trying to take over Stefan's page (which has been around since 2009) to write about Can. Later, apparently, he realized that he should create a separate article about Can. That's why the two articles looked the same -- Becan had left the information about Can on Stefan's page. I've fixed that so now each page is about the player whose name is at the top of the page. --] ] 15:48, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
*However, the ] article is probably a hoax anyway and I've tagged it as such. --] ] 15:55, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
::] tried to do the same thing last night at ], and I've just reverted it. ] ] 12:22, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

== ] ==

I think it's likely a copyvio. I can't find it though. Can you? Best, ] (]) 06:32, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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== Contested prod on Florence Green ==

Just to point out that per ], "If anyone, including the article creator, removes a {{tl|proposed deletion}} tag from an article, do not replace it, even if the tag was apparently removed in bad faith. If you still believe that the article needs to be deleted, or that the article should be deleted but with discussion, list it on ]." - Green clearly meets ] on the given sources, though, and her being dead doesn't change that. We wouldn't delete an article about the king of a country when they died and stopped being king. --] (]) 10:04, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

My mistake, I assumed your "Undid revision by" edit summary was literal. Her being the last surviving service member of WWI seems , unless I've misunderstood your point, and going from being "last service member to still be alive" to "last service member to die" doesn't seem much of a change in significance. By all means AfD it if you think it merits discussion, though. --] (]) 10:28, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

== Morecambe ==

John - Morecambe and LONSDALE is different to Morecambe and LUNESDALE, so there needs to be two separate articles. Further, the redirect omits three or four election results, so I've made the article BETTER

Please do not revert in such a rude and disruptive manner again.

] <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 15:37, 9 July 2013 (UTC)


:For ignorance, try you. I understand you don't know the difference between Lonsdale and Lunesdale, or that the two constituencies are different? Each UK Parliamentary constituency has its own article, as each constituency is different. Whilst you look for a map to confirm what I'm saying is true, I'll go back to fixing what you're breaking. You'll note that I'm filling in missing election results, by the way, so am making a new article better than the existing one.

Do not revert again, there are rules against it.


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== A cheeseburger for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Good old American junk food. If you are a vegetarian, you can give it to your dog. Thanks for the edit at ]. ] (]) 17:14, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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== Talkback ==

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I would also appreciate if you would acknowledge the comments made by other users in the ] section. Thanks. ] (]) 21:27, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

: Please take a more careful look at the history of the ] article. In particular, look at the error you introduced in citation #12 ("''Cite error: The named reference morrone was invoked but never defined''"). You are without thinking. Also please read my comments on ]. ] (]) 21:48, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

== ] and ] ==

Before you revert any more of my edits, I urge you take a much more careful look at the actual changes I made. You are jumping to conclusions that are not warranted. In particular:
* ]:
** ''Nothing has changed as far as the citations look.'' () – Please carefully compare outputs and your edits, especially how authors are formatted. The original citation format used a ] author system. The {{tl|cite pmid}} template uses first1, last1, first2, last2 author parameters which renders the authors to include periods after author first initials, first and last names separated by a comma and authors separated by semicolons. The Vancouver system omits the periods and the comma between the last and first names.
** ''They just come from a standardized place.'' – Both ] that you used and that I used obtain their data from the same place: ]. Furthermore I ran Citation bot afterwards () to make certain all the data in the citations were complete and accurate.
** ''Moreover, because I made all the references alphabetical'' – In my subsequent , I ''preserved'' the alphabetical order of the further reading section.
** ''] is much easier'' – Again, in my subsequent , I ''preserved'' the list defined references.
** Finally as described ], there are legitimate reservations about using {{tl|cite pmid}} templates.
* ]:
** ''There was no citation style. A mixture of all sorts.'' () – your edits, the was a predominate style that used {{tl|cite journal}} templates. Furthermore all the citations were directly in the article and none were transcluded using {{tl|cite pmid}} templates. After your edits, there was a mixture of transcluded and non-transcluded citations.
** ''No consensus for rollback to version with information missing or wrong'' () – Please take a look at the results of my edits. I retained all of the ]s that you had added. In addition, I inserted several additional PMIDs that were previously missing (5 to be exact, compare vs. ). Your subsequent reversion removed these 5 PMIDs. Finally I had ran followed by ] () to make sure all the data in the cite journal templates were accurate and complete.
** ''You have obviously not spent any time at all'' – <ahem>, please take the time to look at the results of my edits and not jump to conclusions.
Thank you. ] (]) 04:22, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

: One advantage of both ] and {{tl|cite pmid}} that you have pointed out is that they both reduce clutter within the raw article text. However using both methods at the same time is redundant and unnecessary. Either method alone would reduce clutter. The disadvantage shared by both methods is that they separate the citation from the text making it more difficult for editors to see the connections between the two and for editors to spot and correct errors in the citations. (Please don't try to claim that the citation bot never makes errors, sometimes it ].) Using both methods simultaneously compounds the problem. Finally including the "noedit" parameter in the {{tl|cite pmid}} templates makes it very difficult for editors, especially new editors, to find the raw citation data. Using all three methods together (LDR, transcluded templates, and transcluded templates with the "noedit" parameter) becomes ridiculous.

: IMHO, the best compromise is to use LDRs and non-transcluded citation templates. While making slightly more difficult for editors to find the raw citation data, at least with this compromise, the raw citation data is still included in the same article. An additional advantage of non-transcluded templates are that they allow variations in citation formatting to suit editors preferences. The {{tl|cite pmid}} and {{tl|cite doi}} templates enforce one type of citation style and this is contrary to ] (see for example this ]). Finally transcluded templates, especially if many are used in the same document, can considerably slow down page load times making editing more frustrating. ] (]) 11:01, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

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== Liquefaction ==

Hi Johnmperry. This edit removed the ] section, which has now been linked anyhow. If it is correct to include in the broadconcept (which I think it is), it should not be in the hatnote (as you pointed out) and the section could/should be included. ] what do you mean by WP:OWNERSHIP? Another editor has fixed the blend link now to link to the article in the mean time anyhow, so I'm pretty certain that we should resolve this without words like "ownership". Per ] I disagree with the edit as I consider it controvercial and not helpful for expanding the dabconcept. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span>; ]</span> 18:34, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

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== And you now revealed yourself. ==

You insists on your edit. The article has been copyedited by a certain Wikipedian editor. The page has been semi-protected after your edits. The use of the word '''church''' here is as a part of a proper nounc like '''Loboc Church''' (or '''Manila Cathedral'''). It does not make a good one. And on the use of abbreviations: it must be '''St.''' (with a period) and not '''St'''. Another one, why did you removed the citation? After editing the commons category, ''no category found''. Revert your edits. --] (]) 11:08, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
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I see you adding <nowiki><span style="font-family:Times;font-size:95%"></nowiki> inside references.

Per ], one should not be changing the font-family parameter. Also, the reference font-size is already at the minimum size. Making it even smaller would violate ]. ] (]) 08:17, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

They've been like that about 18 months. I was just reverting from {{tl|cite isbn}} now deprecated. But I'll bear in mind when I come across them. ] (]) mytime= Sun 16:49, wikitime= 08:49, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

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== Moved ] discussion here==

Why've you reverted my edit? It wasn't at all unconstructive - I brought all the data up to date, with 2010 population figures, and I removed all the dead links. Like I said on the edit summary.

Unlike other people, I spend time verifying what I read. And I mean '''time'''! I also worked on ] this morning, and am currently working on ]. They're two different places, as are Sillon, Bantayan and ] despite what the current qua{{nbhyph}}owner thinks.

I already have an editor-shepherd, so don't need you to mother me.

] (]) mytime= Thu 11:43, wikitime= 03:43, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

:It's good to know that you're not intending to make disruptive edits.

:The proper way to resolve dead links is to either: 1) tag the citation information with the ] tag - or 2) use wayback.com to get the archiveurl and archivedate to add to the citation. Someone spent their time at one point to properly research and cite the information and removing the citation altogether is not the right tack to take.

:Some edits seem disruptive. Information is updated, but I'm not consistently seeing citations. And, you cricitize overlinking and then link common words like asphalt. That's why it seems disruptive.

:I see that you removed the welcome message that had links to commons guidelines, which I think would be helpful to keep as references. But of course, that's your choice.--] (]) 03:55, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

::The info is dead and superseded – 2007 census etc. – so no point in wasting time researching its accompany dead links. The official Tagbilaran city government web site no longer shows that info ("under construction" ..) and there is no barangay web site. Yes, I criticise overlinking, which predominantly means linking the same site more than once on a page. cf ] which is linked 3 times each on ] and ], and twice on ]. And just because you know everything about an ] road surface (or think you do) doesn't mean everyone does.

::] (]) mytime= Thu 12:10, wikitime= 04:10, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

:::You removed citation info where there was no change to the information. And if you're adding new data, then instead of a citation needed template - you should post the source.

:::To help better describe some of my confusion: when you changed |area_total_km2 --> |area_land_km2, then the population density calculation wouldn't auto calculate, so you put added the expression <nowiki>{{#expr: 17114/2.044 round 0}}</nowiki>, which means that other editors would have to pick up the changes, too. Why change an automatic function?

:::Like I said above, there are always kernels of good edits that you make, but there's enough disruptive editing that it would take time to sort out what can stay and what needs to be corrected.---] (]) 04:15, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

::::Regarding ] - it's not necessarily wrong to link a place more than once in an article. The guidelines say no more than once per section. But, I wouldn't have a problem with elimination of multiple links in an article. Overlinking also means linking common words, like countries, asphalt, concrete, etc.--] (]) 04:22, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

:::::In the case of the ] article (I wasn't in any way involved in the others), it's linked once in the body of an initial section and then within the <nowiki>{{main}}</nowiki> template for that section. I wouldn't think that was overlinking... It would be wrong to remove the link to the initial use of the article name... and it makes sense to have the main template for that section. Are you thinking one of them should be removed? Which one?--] (]) 04:31, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

::::::] says "Generally, a link should appear only '''once''' in an article, but if helpful for readers, links may be repeated in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, hatnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead." Not once per section.
:::::::That guideline has been rewritten, and rightly so. I don't see that in this case the 2013 earthquake is an overlink situation based upon the scenario. You didn't answer my question, so I'm guessing you're fine with it, too.--] (]) 06:52, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
::::::(And btw I think it entirely wrong that so much earthquake information appears – this is an article about XXX Church. If the reader wants to know, s/he can follow the link.)
:::::::If it's a major concern of yours, I would recommend bringing it up on the talk page.--] (]) 06:52, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
::::::It was your reversion which changed {{para|area_total_km2}} to {{para|area_land_km2}}. Note that the auto function of {{tl|infobox settlement}} doesn't work if land appears without total, which is why the #expr: was there. It made more sense to move value to total even though it may not be true.
:::::::My mistake in cutting and pasting the fields, sorry. The auto function seems to be working fine. It's not rounding as you have in the expression, but it's made the calculation. I'm confused.--] (]) 06:52, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
::::::Most of the citations appear to be trying to verify rumours, which seems fairly pointless. That and ] usages such as "Legend has it" or "It is generally believed". No point in trying to nail that jelly to the wall!
::::::] (]) mytime= Thu 14:26, wikitime= 06:26, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
:::::::I found a source for the one item that I would have otherwise considered a rumour. I tried to find sources for the other info - and I think it's possibly ].--] (]) 06:52, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

{{outdent}} I agree with your points about wording of the history of the name. I made some edits, but please make any adjustments to fine-tune it.--] (]) 07:05, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
:I think giving house-room to these folksy cod etymology snippets is a bad thing. I don't think they're worth losing sleep over / wasting time researching. As it is, I doubt these barangay pages are going to be read by more than half a dozen people.
:Do you intend to go through all the pages with unsourced zip codes and area codes? Potentially there are 1200 on Bohol alone, and that's just one province.
:] (]) mytime= Thu 19:02, wikitime= 11:02, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

::Your points make sense! Regarding the zip/area codes: No, I went looking for a source for the zip/area codes when the values were changed. I just wanted to confirm that they were right... and the right thing to do was to add a citation since the value had been changed. I'm good.--] (]) 11:08, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

== ] ==

I'm working on the infobox and have added back some info, including sources. I have a question on ] about the unusual template and change in what appear to be correct zip and area codes.--] (]) 05:19, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

== ] ==

I've integrated many of your edits into the article. See ] for a couple of questions.--] (]) 08:33, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

== Great teamwork! ==

There's been some great teamwork on resolving open questions on the Cogon and Bool articles. Thanks for hanging in - doing your own research - and making very civil counter-claims. Great job.--] (]) 10:54, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

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{{help me-helped}}

I am in the process of merging some small island stubs into an overall umbrella, let's call it Z. Each of these stubs includes a category for island. How do I ensure that the island itself is still categorised so? Do I include within Z a line <nowiki>]</nowiki> for each island? So I'd have a string of entries<br /><nowiki>]</nowiki><br /><nowiki>]</nowiki><br /><nowiki>]</nowiki> etc.

Documentation is not very clear. Or do I need to leave the category behind on the a... redirect page? Ditto of course for other categories.

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:You may want to read ]. I did some reviews of very small villages for another country - and there was so little information available, I tagged a few articles before someone came along, removed the tags, and explained that even places with low population are considered notable for WP articles.

:Why do you want to merge the articles? Did this come about as the result of the articles being tagged for possible merger and the consensus was to merge them?--] (]) 06:36, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
:Hi Unbuttered Parsnip. To add to the above answer, as far as I'm aware an article category should only contain existing articles - not redirects - so one category tag on article Z should suffice. ] (]) 14:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

:*Well, I don't think there is a policy against categories on redirect pages. See for instance ], it is full of ''italic'' links that are redirects. I for one have always supported this practice (compare {{No redirect|Dalupiri Island}} and ]). That way it allows the island to be listed properly in the island category, and the target article is in the proper municipality category. -- '''<font color="#199199">]</font>'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<big>]</big> 16:39, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
::Yes, I arrived at that conclusion by experimentation. Basically the category only applies to the invoking page. The second (sortkey) parameter is there more to confuse than help I think, as items then apparently get out of alphabetic sequence. ] (]) mytime= Sat 19:31, wikitime= 11:31, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

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== {{TL|Shirehampton railway station services}} ==

Hi. Thanks for fixing the references here, however it was unnecessary - the template is transcluded into a single page, which has the requisite reflist. For clarity I have added a noincluded reflist on the template page. -'']'' <small>(])</small> 09:00, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

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== Using as of template for school years ==

I've looked through the ] documentation in the past and I've checked it twice, but there seems to be no protocol for using "As of|2011" to correspond to "as of the 2011-12 school year". I have been searching for a way to systematically identify school data that's out of date, but I'm not sure if the as of template is the mechanism. Any ideas? ] (]) 05:22, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

{{ping|User:Alansohn}} {{tl|as of}} is used as a general way of indicating that article contains a dated statment. {{param|alt}} is a way of defining the text (I think it defaults to '''As of''' but I'm not sure). I was just trying to change as little of the original text as possible, but you could for instance write {{tlg|as of|2011|3=alt=As of the 2011-2012 school year}} etc. ] (]) mytime= Mon 13:33, wikitime= 05:33, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

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<code>23:52, 12 December 2014‎ Unbuttered Parsnip (talk | contribs)‎ . . (270,393 bytes) (-972)‎ . . ''(→‎References: -redundant ref)''

00:01, 13 December 2014‎ RAN1 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (271,365 bytes) (+972)‎ . . ''(Undid good-faith edit by Unbuttered Parsnip (talk): One of those refs is in-use, plus the other two may be used later)''

00:05, 13 December 2014‎ Unbuttered Parsnip (talk | contribs)‎ . . (270,393 bytes) (-972)‎ . . ''(Undid revision 637873308 by RAN1 (talk) Remove three UNUSED cites. You need one later? Put it back later. Just keep article off error report.)''

00:23, 13 December 2014‎ Mandruss (talk | contribs)‎ . . (271,370 bytes) (+977)‎ . . ''(Undid revision 637873685 by Unbuttered Parsnip (talk) per article convention)''

00:37, 13 December 2014‎ Unbuttered Parsnip (talk | contribs)‎ . . (270,393 bytes) (-977)‎ . . ''(Undid revision 637874849 by Mandruss (talk) Wrong is wrong, so stick your convention)''

00:38, 13 December 2014‎ Mandruss (talk | contribs)‎ . . (271,370 bytes) (+977)‎ . . ''(Undid revision 637875800 by Unbuttered Parsnip) pls note that I combined a change with my revert, I commented out the ref that was putting the article in your tracking cat, there is no problem now)''</code>

I have put in some hours working that same tracking category, and I know it's hard because all you see is stupidity and vandalism. If that's what put you in a pissy mood, I can empathize, but the tone of your edit summaries was still over the top and uncalled for. To begin with, you could have observed that the convention in the article is to comment out unused refs, and commented that one out. Done and done. Instead, for some reason you opted to remove the ref, plus two commented-out refs that had nothing to do with the tracking category. Later, after my revert/change that corrected the problem, you didn't stop to notice that (1) the byte count of the reverts had increased from 972 to 977, so something must have changed, or that (2) the article was no longer in the tracking category. Instead, you knee-jerk responded with another revert with nasty comment. I hope this isn't how you interact with other editors all the time. "Wrong is wrong, so stick your convention"? Best of luck on improving your wikisocial skills. ‑‑]&nbsp;] 11:09, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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== Jesus College alumni ==

Gah, I'm so out of practice at writing/updating articles that I have forgotten everything I once knew about formatting references! Thank you for fixing my errors. I will be overhauling the Jesus College alumni/fellows lists in the New Year, because I've not really paid them any attention over the last couple of years and there are no doubt new names to be added. It will be good to have the time to do so, without perpetually worrying about what needs to be scheduled as "Today's Featured Article", which has taken increasing amounts of my time over the last couple of years! Best wishes, ]] 11:34, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

== ] ==

You , where I removed the sole non-notable item from a list article, with only the edit summary "completely screwed it." What does that mean? As I can't see where my removing that one item caused some sort of layout/style problem (the only thing I can think of that "completely screwed it" could mean), I restored the previous version. --&mdash; <tt>] <sup style="font-size:80%;">]</sup></tt> \\ 17:51, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

{{ping|User:Rhododendrites}} Page was on the list of ] and the was a big red error message showing in one of the table cells. (Don't recall which). RV your change got rid of it. NB there has been some vandalismon some of the software pages recently. ] (]) mytime= Fri 02:00, wikitime= 18:00, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
:Aha! Yeah it looks like of those little notes one was only used by the line I removed. I see you've caught that and fixed it. Thanks. --&mdash; <tt>] <sup style="font-size:80%;">]</sup></tt> \\ 18:11, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

== Facebook is a perfectly reasonable source ==

I was looking at your edit, with the summary "", and I am confused. Facebook is a excellent source, a primary source directly from the politicians compared to secondary (and thus less reliable) sources like newspaper articles. Where have you gotten the idea that Facebook is not a valid source? ] (]) 20:42, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
:{{ping|User:Thue}} Exactly so. You urgently need to read ], and more pertinently, ]. These explicitly state (a) primary sources are not allowed; (b) social networking sites are not allowed.--] (]) mytime= Mon 07:19, wikitime= 23:19, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
::I'm extremely confused and concerned that {{U|Thue}} as an adminstrator of 11 years standing has such a total misunderstanding of long accepted policies/guidlines. --] (]) 00:13, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
:::Administrator? <gulp> ] (]) mytime= Mon 08:49, wikitime= 00:49, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
::::Is this a punk? Someone is contending that a social networking site is a ]?--<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">] ]</span> 01:06, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|User:CaroleHenson}} You read what I (and others) read.--] (]) mytime= Mon 09:44, wikitime= 01:44, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Yep, it's just so funny that I thought that there is some ] going on. A biased, primary, social networking site would be better than a newspaper article by professional journalists with editorial control? It seems it must be a joke - either that or there is an interest in adding content that would not get published by a newspaper.--<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">] ]</span> 02:44, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
::::::::{{ping|User:CaroleHenson}} Not forgetting of course that a politician's facebook page is '']'' bound to be more honest and truthful than a balanced evaluation. Not! --] (]) mytime= Mon 10:55, wikitime= 02:55, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
:::::::::It depends on what kind of info you are sourcing. Some info is perfectly fine to source from a facebook account. Categorically rejecting facebook as a source for all kinds of info is simply absurd. ] (]) 05:12, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
::::::::::I think this gets to the importance of the information. If it's not important enough to have made it into a magazine, book, magazine, or a website that has editorial control, then how important is this information, which is essentially ] and/or ]? See ]. It's just a bad habit to get into to use sources without editorial control. Facebook isn't even supposed to be used as an external link.--<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">] ]</span> 13:18, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

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::{{ping|user talk:Kvng}} Absolutely nothing to do with me. Who's John Weber? Probably just another page short on notability nut long on errors that I picked up and kicked into wikishape. PS, try proof-reading the stuff you send out!--] (]) mytime= Tue 05:42, wikitime= 21:42, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

==#Propety?==
Can you please explain how the #property template that you have been adding at Philippine municipality pages works so I can revert the flag, seals and relevant images back to the infoboxes using the #property template.--] (]) 05:55, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

:{{ping|User:Hariboneagle927}} wikidata contains the name of the image. To revert, you just need to remove it from wikidata. I'd prefer you did that rather than change the infobox. The infobox is quite happen for there to be no entry. In fact that is the normal case.
:To reach wikidata, you need to go to the relevant page, then click on "Wikidata item" on the left-hand side. To remove an item I think you need to click on 'edit' first, and that will give you the option of 'remove'.--] (]) mytime= Wed 15:51, wikitime= 07:51, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks for the info.--] (]) 06:17, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
::I think the if statements are unnecessary. -- ] (]) 09:31, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
::It seems if I try to reinsert the seal/flag images using wikidata, a bot named is reverting my new wikidata edits/claims. The description of the bot is in Russian? so I can't determine its purpose.--] (]) 05:58, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
:::It could be that there is a reference attached. If you click 'edit' on the reference, then you can remove it.] (]) mytime= Sat 22:55, wikitime= 14:55, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

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Could you explain your edit to this template please? &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 09:23, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
:As you have decided not to explain that edit, I have undone it for now. Regards &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 08:55, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
:PS It seems to were trying to move the template back to its previous name. In that case, you should use "move" function, not copy/paste. Anyway it might be an idea to discuss this so we can decide the best name for this template. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 08:57, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
::{{ping|MSGJ}}You were the one who unilaterally decided to rename the template without any discussion. Your argument was that it would reduce confusion. However there are several Philippine-related templates already which start with or contain "PH" without confusion by anybody. On the other hand, WHICH I WROTE AS AN EDIT NOTE, there already is a template called {{tl|Philippine census}} which is unrelated to this. So which is more likely to confuse? This template is already included on about 80 pages, with four per page. I wouldn't want to double the amount of typing just to satisfy some personal whim of yours.--] (]) mytime= Mon 17:17, wikitime= 09:17, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
:::Okay, a few comments:
:::*I did not understand your edit summary to ] and did not realise you were intending to revert my move. In fact I didn't even notice the corresponding edit to ] so was confused about your purpose. (That is why you I left you the message above, to clarify.)
:::*Yes it is your prerogative to revert my move, but in future (as noted above), please use the "move" button to do this.
:::*There is no template {{tl|Philippine census}} - perhaps you are thinking about another template?
:::*In any case, I still think that expanding the PH to Philippine is preferable, because the former is unintelligible to editors who are not familiar with these templates. (It look me a long while to work out what it meant!)
:::Kind regards &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 13:10, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
::::{{ping|MSGJ}}Sorry I meant {{tl|Philippine Census}}. BTW I was originally looking for an explanation of why recursion didn't work. I still don't know, but the solution you provided was elegant and more efficient. Thanks. --] (]) mytime= Wed 07:48, wikitime= 23:48, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

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== Bantayan Island ==

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== "This shit" ==

"This shit" refers to your aggressive edit comments. Find another way to interact and maybe people will take your edits more seriously. ]&nbsp;] 06:08, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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== No need to shout! ==

Referring to , there is no need to shout, Parsnip! Everybody can make a mistake, but that is absolutely no reason to neither shout nor express annoyance. Just correct the error and explain it nicely. Please! Had you done that, you might even have gotten an apology from me for my mistake. But not when you behave like that. Please learn to behave. --] (]) 00:50, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|Jhertel}} Well you didn't spot the {{red|'''bold red error message'''}} the first time you caused it, nor the second, but a snippet within my edit summary caught your eye. -- ] (]) mytime= Tue 09:51, wikitime= 01:51, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
::You really are a rather unpleasant person, Parsnip. All these complaints about your behavior and nothing changes. Then you judge others for behaving in a likewise manner. And giving yourself a barnstar? Very suspect. ] (]) 16:24, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
:::Well, whatever kind of civility you're seeking, you don't seem to have found it at ].<br />Me, when my mistake is pointed out, I don't throw a hissy-fit and draw attention to myself. I just accept it, bite the bullet, and move on.-- ] (]) mytime= Wed 12:22, wikitime= 04:22, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
:::: "Me, when my mistake is pointed out, I don't throw a hissy-fit and draw attention to myself." That is exactly what you do. I call taking the time to figure out where my IP address re-directs to and calling me uncivil a hissy-fit (and drawing attention to yourself). I call making a snide reply to a request for a little more decorum than you showed throwing a hissy-fit. Your talk page bears record to how you rub people the wrong way. Do you honestly "accept it, bite the bullet, and move on."? Maybe in terms the technical aspect of editting Misplaced Pages you do, but you don't seem to when it comes to interacting with others. ] (]) 19:50, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
:::::I don't come here to make friends, I come here to make the encyclopedia better. It needs it, as there are plenty of morons who think rules of procedure don't apply to them. ] for instance. Or ]. ] (]) mytime= Thu 07:26, wikitime= 23:26, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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re , the use of special characters on such titles remains an issue, and misunderstandings about such names, with or without special diacriticals or other characters, have seen a lot of chauvinistic comments about native names in general; ultimately in the case of a dispute, TITLE says the choice of the original editor on a title should be respected if nothing else can be agreed upon; {{ping|User:OldManRivers}} is not around anymore, and many of his titles have been changed by people who (a) don't know the topic and (b) don't care that such names are now standard in Canadian ''English'' - albeit when used generally don't have special characters; which is why ] and ] don't have the special characters used when writing in the language those terms originate from.

Xwayxway, with special characters, is the choice of actual Skwxwu7mesh, not just User:OldManRivers (who himself spearheads the language programs for his people); it's a case where PRIMARYTOPIC parameters about googlesearches and stuff do not apply and are overridden by ]. The alternate spellings, which you (incorrectly) unbolded, are various; another modern one is Qwhy-qwhy (used on the ] page I think, Whoi-whoi is much older.

I'd support an RM to move it to ] but feel it's important to respect OldManRivers'choice of that spelling, albeit without his insistence on special characters. Problem with an RM is it will wind up involving people not familiar with the subject matter and who don't care about Canadian English "normalizing"and absorbing such terms into ordinary English, which is now the norm; i.e. such a decision would not be made in an informed basis, but only on cursory and superficial impositions of guidelines, often in conflict with what other guidelines say, and not just ] either. The result, imposed by a consensus by people only familiar with guidelines (so they think) and ''not'' familiar with the subject matter, or Canadian linguistic standards, and WPCANADA conventions about native names in English, may by an older, archaic spelling, e.g. "Whoi whoi" even though that is long in disuse, or is just incorrect as with what happened to ], or confusing like Squamish v. ].

Another issue is that the site was Hwmethkwyem/Musqueam and Tsleil-wau-tuth before the Skwxu7mesh moved to Burrard Inlet early in teh 19th Century; the Qwhy-qwhy version of the name may be from ], which both those bands have as their traditional languages; deciding between Skwxwu7mesh and Hmethkwyem versions of the name may be difficult; what is used by the City of Vancouver or the Vancouver Parks Board, which administers Stanley Park, may be the clincher.] (]) 06:01, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|Skookum1}} All I'm after is a page title you can actually type in on a regular keyboard. Apart from Arabic, Chinese, etc. I've come across examples like this ] (it's a Hawaiian bird). -- ] (]) mytime= Wed 13:32, wikitime= 05:32, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
::I feel the same way, which is why I filed a CfD on what had been a diacriticized form of Skwxwu7mesh and wound up seeing that railroaded by people unfamiliar with the PrimaryTopic problems of "Squamish".....similarly ] and ] took some doing to get fixed.....and also their main article titles. Xwayxway is at least the preferred Skwxwu7mesh spelling, without diacriticals; whether the Hmehtkwyem name should have precedence is the other issue; let me look into that; and if you wish to do a technical RM on this it may not take an RM, which can be laborious and unproductive if the usual lurkers at the RM board weigh in; they don't know or care about the subject matter or the "territorial"issues of which name to use; I'll do some searches about Qwhy-qwhy vs Xwayxway and get back to you.] (]) 05:49, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

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:{{ping|Buster7}} Yeah, I'm getting there. I see that ref all over Native American artists, in varying levels of OK-ness. I'm surprised it's not available online. --] (]) mytime= Sun 12:13, wikitime= 04:13, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
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The Directory of North American Painters contains informative and interesting quotes and comments along the edge of the pages with listings for a bibliography in the back pages (687 - 701). When using those side quotes (which are kind of like footnotes) in article creation, can I use the reference shown in the Bibliography as a source or do I actually have to "see" the secondary reference myself? . ]<small>]</small> 14:14, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
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Do you realise that in reverting my careful corrections to this article that all you managed to do was to restore multiple formatting and other problems? Why did you do this? ] (]) 11:46, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

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==Lists of rail accidents==
Please do not change the code for en-dashes in these lists to dashes. These lists have a consistent format per ]. ] (]) 04:37, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|Mjroots}} The character string "&amp;ndash;" takes 7 bytes and the character "–" (which is the unencoded en dash) takes one. Apart from making reading difficult, your bizarre insistence on using code instead of characters in this article alone consumes more than 2500 completely unnecessary bytes. And this is only half a decade. -- ] (]) mytime= Sat 15:13, wikitime= 07:13, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
::{{reply to|Unbuttered Parsnip}} As I linked to, MOS states that this is how it should be. As one of the editors who contributes to the list, I'll let you into a little secret. Copy & Paste takes precisely two keystrokes, not that the size of the page is causing an issue in any case. ] (]) 12:53, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

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I'm not sure why you keep moving the page I added. I see lots of negative comments regarding your actions. You stated that it's not an article? Then what is it? Where would you suggest I moved it to? You are doing the same thing to others that you were upset about.

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== Christian terrorism ==

Hi, I noticed you reverted a new user's addition of an AFD template to this article. However, such templates aren't supposed to be removed until the AFD is closed. Would you mind explaining your removal of this template? ] ] 12:28, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
:Article is still in ].Hence reverted you.] (]) 07:57, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

== Discontinuation ==

Hi

"Discontinued" does not mean "Wiped out of space-time continuum". It doesn't mean "unsupported" either. It just means "no new versions will come out". We seem to have

We seem to be cursed to have this argument every time Microsoft decides to discontinue something. It takes a long time until the resistance of the fandom subsides; until they realize that they don't see any new version.

I hope this clears out everything.

Best regards,<br/>] (]) 03:29, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|Codename Lisa}} Probably comes from writing in the future, obscurely. -- ] (]) mytime= Sun 08:39, wikitime= 00:39, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

== Could you please explain... ==

In these three edits , , you removed what seem like valuable references from the article on ]. You used the same edit summary for all three -- ''"References: rm redundant ref"''.

Could you please return to ] and explain in more detail ''why'' you removed these references?

Thanks ] (]) 23:33, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|Geo Swan}} ] = no longer used = clutter. If you bother to check the page after making changes, you would see {{font|size=110%|color=red|text=Big red error messages}}, one for each redundant (no longer used) ref. -- ] (]) mytime= Sun 08:37, wikitime= 00:37, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

:* And if the references went red because someone had made unjustifiable excisions to the article, don't your choices include reverting the questionable excisions? Suggestion -- anyone who makes excisions that leave a mess -- isn't it likely they didn't bother reading the passages they excised well enough to be relied upon? ] (]) 03:49, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Geo Swan}} I know nothing about the subject, I'm just clearing errors. I can see the article has been heavily redacted over the last couple of weeks, but I assume either that's OK or if not that someone who knows about it will revert. It's immaterial really, because a revert will also restore removed references. If the reference invocation is removed, then there's no point in keeping the citation, it just gets in the way. I can usually tell vandalism from knowledgable edits. -- ] (]) mytime= Sun 13:17, wikitime= 05:17, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

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== Redundant refs ==

I saw to ]. I appreciate the effort in cleaning up refs, especially since I put a lot of time into clear refs as well, but I wish you had put a little more effort into looking at why those refs were creating an error message. Anon and while the information was still there, the ref tags were removed. Looks like it was just a rookie mistake, but your deletion removed some perfectly good and valid refs. --] (]) 02:03, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|Briancua}} I'm not really interested in why, all I do is correct errors. If you want to revert the other user's mistake, then the refs will come back from history too, so what's the big problem? -- ] (]) mytime= Tue 11:50, wikitime= 03:50, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
::The problem is that you didn't really fix anything. You took a mistake and made it worse. I don't want to revert anon as what he added was valuable. He simply forgot to reinsert the refs. I am going to go back and do it myself, but I wish you had done it yourself and that you will be a little more careful in the future. --] (]) 13:49, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Briancua}} I took a page in error and corrected it. I have absolutely no interest in the page content, and don't know whether you are correct or the other editor is. It is immaterial. You would do better wishing other people were more careful – i.e. actually inspect the page after they've <strike>fouled</strike> edited it. -- ] (]) mytime= Tue 21:56, wikitime= 13:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
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== Payment Gateway Vandalism ==
I disagree with your assertion that the content in Payment Gateway is redundant and will not allow that section to be deleted. If you want that content removed you will need to escalate this matter to have it discussed by others. Otherwise I will report you for vandalism. ] (]) 11:54, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|stymiee}} Of course I disagree. You have the same worthless section in there twice, both times with the same clumsy error. Report away, but I may beat you to it. -- ] (]) mytime= Tue 20:57, wikitime= 12:57, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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== Baby with bathwater ==

With you undid my edit along with the vandalism. I have restored my edit. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:grey;">](])</span> 16:59, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

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You nominated ] for deletion as a test page. I effectively declined it by restoring the article to a previous version. Before ever nominating an article for deletion you should always do is look at the history to see if it has been vandalised. In this case it was an IP replacing the content of the article with Greek text and the proper course is to restore the article. This looks like a one off problem but I thought I would pass on something I learned a while ago as I made the same mistake before. Thanks for all your work on the encyclopedia. --&nbsp;]&nbsp;] 17:35, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks '']'' 19:00, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

:{{ping|User:Huritisho}} Sorry, I had a stroke in April. I can read fine, but writing is really hard. ] (]) mytime= Sat 04:32, wikitime= 20:32, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

== <strike>Your reverts of ''The Population of Poland'' </strike>==

<strike>I have started a discussion of your reverts of The Population of Poland at the RSN Please respond there and explain why you deleted this reference--] (]) 14:21, 10 October 2015 (UTC)</strike>

You should have left an edit summary to explain you deletion @ Demographic history of Poland--] (]) 15:35, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

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== NATO bombing of Yugoslavia ==

Hello, I'm afraid this ties in to prev. section ''(edit summaries)''. I couldn't work out why you removed refs from ], some of it seemed to be 'tidying', but some I just could not understand. You seem far too experienced to have not done it for SOME good reason. Please 'ping' if replying. ] (]) 17:28, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

:{{ping|Pincrete}} The changes you made (problem more than one edit): the ending of references section show 8 or 9 cite errors for references no longer requires, and one of a reference described two or more times.<br />I can't write very well since I had a stroke, but I can't read OK.<br />] (]) mytime= Tue 01:41, wikitime= 17:41, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

::Thanks for reply, I doubt if they were 'my' references as I have added little, ''(I simply 'watch' because this article is prone to very partisan editing),'' but I take your meaning. Thanks again] (]) 20:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

== Unexplained removal of references. ==

Do not remove references from articles, such as you did at ], unless there is an acceptable reason and explanation. Unexplained edits of this kind are subject to immediate reversion. Thank you. ] (]) 22:25, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

:{{ping|Afterwriting}} I don't know it was your article, I thought it was for everyone to make corrects, not just you. So when someone edits some paragraphs but leaves the citations in, leaving {{red|size=120%|'''BIG&nbsp;RED&nbsp;ERROR'''}}, then some such us me removes the swarf. And of course, better to remove some else's text rather than leaving in. ] (]) mytime= Tue 07:58, wikitime= 23:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


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Please do not follow the inappropriate removal of content by another editor by then removing unused refs. The other editor is repeatedly removing content which is verified and their edits are reverted. Sometimes, before this is done, your repeated edits remove the verifying refs which is also disruptive.] (]) 18:49, 14 October 2015 (UTC)


:It's also curious that you've now done this twice after the removal of negative information by the same IP editor. ] (]) 21:52, 14 October 2015 (UTC) :{{ping|1=7&amp;6=thirteen}} I've edited 8 years with 16000 edits. Tell that other tit to learn edited, with 1500 edits in 4 years. - ] (]) mytime= Tue 22:20, wikitime= 14:20, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
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Afrikaner

Why did you eliminate that pararaph in the last edit you made today in the "Afrikaner" article??? -- Aflis (talk) 23:56, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

@Aflis: I didn't change any article. I just corrected article to remove error in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting, which means remove superfluous exit-reference. Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Thu 08:03, wikitime= 00:03, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Hmm

Why the reference blanking here? You may have had good reason but the edit summary was entirely insufficient for such a significant and eyebrow raising edit. --Dweller (talk) 10:12, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

@Dweller: Dead references were already not used – Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting. Family = WP:IINFO – Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Fri 18:31, wikitime= 10:31, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Gosh you're hard work to communicate with. Is it possible you could use full sentences and edit summaries that describe what you're doing? I think I understand this reply, except you've not removed extraneous info about his family, you've just removed the citations that referenced the information in that section. --Dweller (talk) 11:02, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
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I had a stroke in April. I can read and hear fine, but writing or speaking is very hard. Sorry. – Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Sat 03:30, wikitime= 19:30, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Ah. That makes sense. Wish you well. --Dweller (talk) 13:22, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Paul Ryan

I am working to create an independent positions page for Ryan, as so many politicians have. Nobody sees it due to the redirect, to right now, it is its own sandbox. It is ready to be completed, I just have to fix the reflist on the main page and I can execute the changes.   Spartan7W §   19:19, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

@Spartan7W: You should use your own sandbox – that's what it's for. Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Mon 03:59, wikitime= 19:59, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Removal of citation on Dark Age of Camelot Article

Can you please explain why you keep removing a citation from the Dark Age of Camelot Article? The first time you put only 'ce' in your edit description (I assume Copy Edit? But removal of content isn't a copy edit). The second time you gave no explanation.Caidh (talk) 04:10, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting showed that Dark Age of Camelot (and Cite error: A list-defined reference named "jennings-macris" is not used in the content (see the help page).) has its substantive text removed, but not its associated reference. So it removes too. Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Mon 18:32, wikitime= 10:32, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Please put in a full edit summary.... It's confusing we don't know why you've done it and whether to revert or not. --JQTriple7 (talk) 20:35, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Anderson

Can you explain why you deleted information about Carl A. Anderson? I'm not sure it sure should be in there either, but without a solid reason to remove it I left it alone. Is there a policy on this type of information? Thanks. --BrianCUA (talk) 16:52, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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Removal of 'Controversies' Section on the page of City Montessori School

This is with regard to your edits on the page of 'City Montessori School' in the 'Controversies' section. I wish to point out that it wrongfully maligns the reputation of this well-known, world's largest school as per the Guinness Book of Records.

I wish to present some references which present the facts:

1. With reference to the allegation that CMS founder Dr Jagdish Gandhi stopped a Pakistani school from participating in 2014 International Students' Cricket Premier League, it may be noted that during that time, tensions were running high between India and Pakistan because of the beheading of some Indian s oldiers at the India-Pakistan border. Due to the security concerns prevailing during that period, especially when anti-Pakistan sentiment was high, the school management was not sure if it was the right time for Pakistani children to come to India. Later, it was found that the student team from Pakistan was also denied visas by the Indian Embassy to travel to India. CMS is the only school in the world ever to receive the UNESCO Prize for Peace Education (in 2002) for its work to unite warring countries in order to secure a safe future for the children the world over. As well as its pen friends program (“Aao Dosti Karein”) with children in Pakistani schools, CMS has invited, welcomed and hosted a large number of delegations from Pakistani schools over the years.

2. The allegation about the school hiking the fee gives a partial and imbalanced picture. The full press release at 'New academic session, new fee structure' of The Times of India says, "With 20 branches, City Montessori School (CMS) has hiked the nursery, Montessori and kindergarten (KG) fees by 16% compared to last year. The school management has increased the fee for other classes by less than 10%. " The fact about the school increasing the fee only by less than 10% (8% to be more accurate) has been hidden from the material on the ‘Controversies’ page. CMS is probably the only school which is so transparent about its fee structure that it publishes a dossier every year clearly stating the new fee for various classes for the session. No other school probably publishes the fee dossier for the benefit of its parents and the public.

3. With regard to CMS refusing admission to 13 poor children under the RTE Act (Right to Education Act) and the contempt notice by the Allahabad High Court in September, 2015, the fact is that the school had approached the Supreme Court of India to appeal against the decision of the Allahabad High Court, and to make such an appeal for a ‘stay’ against a lower court’s order is legal under Indian law. The school itself had approached the High Court first against the directive of the Basic Education Officer in April 2015 to admit 31 poor children as that directive was not in accordance with the legal state rules for the implementation of RTE Act. It is not unlawful anywhere in the world to approach the courts against the directive which are not found in accordance with law. Once the Supreme Court's directive came, the school immediately admitted the said 13 children the very next day, as is evident from the press release here. The matter is still sub-judice before the Supreme Court with the last order of the court saying that the 13 schools should be admitted forthwith as an interim measure so that their education does not suffer, however, should there be found vacancies in other nearer schools in the vicinity of the residences of the children (as claimed by the appellant), the Supreme Court may order the shifting of these children to those nearby schools.

4. With regard to the matter of slapping of a student by a CMS teacher causing him to bleed from one ear and a subsequent filing of a police complaint against him, the fact is, a thorough enquiry was conducted by the CMS management in the case and it was found that though the teacher had indeed slapped the student. While CMS does not condone the action of the teacher the behavior of the student (snatching the lunch-box of a much younger student and throwing it) leaves much to be desired. The student later apologized to the teacher for his behaviour and the parents withdrew the police case against the teacher. The teacher in question also submitted his clarification and an apology. The school has a zero-tolerance policy towards corporal punishment and this is strictly enforced.

5. Regarding the case of a student of CMS Mahanagar Campus I committing suicide allegedly due to harassment from his school principal, the case is still sub-judice. No judgement has been delivered and the culpability of the Principal has not been established. She must be held to be innocent until proven guilty, as per Misplaced Pages rule which says, "A person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until proven guilty and convicted by a court of law. For relatively unknown people, editors must seriously consider not including material in any article suggesting that the person has committed, or is accused of committing, a crime unless a conviction is secured. If different judicial proceedings result in seemingly contradictory judgements that do not override each other, refrain from using pithy descriptors or absolutes and instead use more explanatory information."

I sincerely hope the above clarifications are sufficient to establish that the 'Controversies' section has been inserted with the intent to malign the reputation of a world-renowned school. Therefore, it is my earnest request to kindly remove the section from the page of 'City Montessori School' and oblige.

I am quite aware that this so-called school has nothing to do with the well-known Montessori School. – Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Thu 03:28, wikitime= 19:28, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  1. Hindustan, Times. "Message from Pak students: Aaodosti karein…". HT Correspondent. Retrieved 2 November 2015.
  2. Dubey, Mohit (8 November 2012). "It's Shah Rukh and Metro over Kashmir for Pakistan's Gen Next". IANS. Retrieved 2 November 2015.
  3. PISHAROTY, SANGEETA BAROOAH (18 August, 2012). "Pals we are!". The Hindu. Retrieved 2 November 2015. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
  4. "Math whizz brings home a bronze medal from India". The Express Tribune. 19 December, 2012. Retrieved 2 November 2015. {{cite news}}: |first1= has generic name (help); |first1= missing |last1= (help); Check date values in: |date= (help)
  5. Live, TV India (7 December 2013). "Grand inauguration of Confluence-2013, an International Festival of World Unity and World Peace". TV India Live. Retrieved 2 November 2015.
  6. Report, Staff (21 August, 2006). "Pakistanis light 'candle of peace' in Lucknow". Daily TImes. Retrieved 2 November 2015. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
  7. Dubey, Mohit. "Kids blame media for portraying India and Pakistan as enemies". The Weekend Leader. Retrieved 2 November 2015.
  8. Network, Times News (30 September, 2015). "http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com//Article.aspx?eid=31813&articlexml=CMS-admits-13-poor-kids-on-SC-directive-30092015002028". Times of India. Retrieved 10 November 2015. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); External link in |title= (help)
  1. Vimeo. "Dear CMS Lucknow, Hello!". Vimeo.com. Retrieved 2 November 2015.

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The only allowed to delete my talk is myself. – Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Thu 03:28, wikitime= 19:28, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Why are you erasing references??

Can you explain why you are deleting my edit's that include reference's to your mom's house podcast???

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Lawis

1630 and not 1830 to: User:Unbuttered Parsnip Dont make any changes or jump into any statement as not true without showing any basis. I was in Lawis for a visit the structure in front of it was a memorial with its inscription that the Kota was built in year 1790. Basing from this then your 1830 edit will be untrue. on the upper hand I read book written during spanish time I found out that the structure was built in 1630 and not in 1790.... So I didn't follow the year 1790 as the founding date of the Kota which was posted by the municipality of Madridejos but the year 1630 as the founding date as narrated by fray Medina.

you changed facts claiming to be wrong but when ask about your basis or reference you are unable to provide. You are inconsistent with your edits, first the 1630 you change to 1830 then now changed it to 1790 and deleted some references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mateothehistorian (talk • contribs) 23:28, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Learn have to make comments. Stop putting you WP:CB in real pages. You have any basis on your nonsense – you ignore reality and choose instead a web blog. De Medina (and Blair & Robertson) had nothing about Lawis, obvious because there is not settlement there. And you have least three different people, unless one man is about 200 years old. And I've been there to Madridejos many times. - Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Wed 07:53, wikitime= 23:53, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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Please comment on content, not contributors

The comment you left when reverting my edit called two editors "stupid". If you read WP:NPA you will see "Comment on content, not on the contributor". Thank you. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:56, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

@Walter Görlitz: Any editor who takes starts with an article syntactically correct and then leaves the article in an Error status is what I call "stupid", and/or blind. Nothing to do with WP:NPA. – Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Tue 17:00, wikitime= 09:00, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
It has everything to do with NPA. It is unacceptable to insult editors in edit summaries or on talk pages. Stop it. Boghog (talk) 09:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
@Boghog: Nothing to do with NPA: maybe you should read it again. Or for the first time. There seem be some editors think it's good to change text from correct to incorrect and not think even to check their balls-up. Quite a lot of them. Not many though cry to their mothers when they're told off. Now fuck off. – Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Wed 01:16, wikitime= 17:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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@DMacks: As usual, some twat makes a mess of an edit, but I get told off mending the balls up. When I make edits, I clean any mistakes before commit. Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Mon 09:11, wikitime= 01:11, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
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@7&6=thirteen: I've edited 8 years with 16000 edits. Tell that other tit to learn edited, with 1500 edits in 4 years. - Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Tue 22:20, wikitime= 14:20, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
I did not see any welcome.
Given your recent history, I thought there might be useful information. Like leaving edit summaries, WP:3RR, Edit warring and WP:BRD. Better to light a candle than to curse the dark.
I had not (at least recently) run across your work. Should have looked first. It would have helped if you had an archive on your talk page. But that is up to you I apologize for any offense given.
Nevertheless, it was not my purpose to criticize. I prefer we all work together collegially and I WP:AGF. Happy holidays to you. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:27, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
@Unbuttered Parsnip: Bragging about one's seniority and number of edits makes one unprofessional and unethical. Calling an editor "tit" is also a form of personal attack. Also, we don't monopolize Misplaced Pages so don't bite the newcomers or those editors with 1500 edits in 4 years. Just sayin' though. No offense intended. – User:HavenHost (talk) 14:44, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
@Unbuttered Parsnip:: Learn to accept other people's edit. Misplaced Pages is for everybody. Central Visayas particularly Cebu articles is not limited to User:Unbuttered Parsnip only. Avoid jumping into conclusion that the newly added content by other editors for those articles is immediately considered "tosh" in your POV. Give others a chance. Whether they are new editors or less-experienced than an experienced user like you. I hope everything is gonna be fine. User:HavenHost (talk) 05:21, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

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Vandalism and edit warring. Even when logged out will still get you blocked. --kelapstick 07:53, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

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