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| | {{userbox|#FFEECC|#FFFFFF|43 h| This user has been blocked for 43 hours, but feels no more than 8 h would have been right.}} | |||
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| | {{userbox|#FF0000|#FFEECC|]| This user has been blocked by ] with an expiry time of 3 hours ''(disruption, trolling and personal attacks)''}} | |||
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| | {{userbox|#FF0000|#FFEECC|]| This user has been blocked by ] with an expiry time of 40 hours ''(3RR violations on Thierry_Henry and USSR_national_football_team)''}} | |||
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| I find this edit to be less than civil: I also don't find your user page in its current state to be very civil, it's borderline at best. Please try to be more civil in future or you may find yourself blocked again. Also, read ]... if there is a revert war, it is lame to complain about which version ends up protected or reverted to. Removal of this warning without a clear indication that you have read and understood it might result in your being blocked. Please do not remove it or subsequent warnings. You should reply here, I have this page on watch. ++]: ]/] 13:09, 12 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| :I do not agree with you. You may be not happy with the post, but I was explaining my position with civility. Civility and distaste for a user (admin) actions are compatible. | |||
| :''It's a good rule of thumb to not edit war, ''ever'', over what another user does on his/her talkpage. You run a big risk of being seen as petty or frivolous when you do that, and the 3RR might be enforced against you instead. The removal of warnings on one's own page is "discouraged", not outlawed, and the 3RR is usually not enforced against such edits. Anyway, he removes a warning, that means he's seen it. There's no need to keep shoving it in his face. Please leave his page alone. ] | ] 00:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC).'' | |||
| :Also, my issues with those users affect my edits. I think I am allowed to write down what are the issues I have open with them. | |||
| ⚫ | --] 16:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | ||
| :It is lame to complain for an admin to protect a page on the "wrong version", and infact I did not complain when he did the first time. The second time he protected the "right version", but later ''reverted the protection and moved back to the "wrong version"''. This means he actually ''endorsed'' the two pages. Am I allowed to complain for a protection that turned into an endorsement? | |||
| :I will remove this thread once it is closed. | |||
| ::Kwame Nkrumah | |||
| ::No, you're not allowed to complain. You can point things out, you can work on the talk page of the article or template to work through differences but you are not allowed to "complain". You '''really''' need to read the link I gave you as it refutes the argument you are making. You're complaining about who reverted what instead of working through differences on the talk page, and that is the wrong approach. At this rate, if you don't change your approach, you'll never be able to edit here successfully, I am afraid. This warning thread needs to stay until you demonstrate successful editing, which right now you have not, so other admins know that there is an issue here (and they are encouraged to look at the history to see that in fact you have been warned before). Removal of it will result in a block or a protected page. Also, please don't use excessive paragraph breaks, and sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> thanks. ++]: ]/] 14:06, 12 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Re: Serbia kits == | |||
| :::#Don't format my edits according to your personal taste. | |||
| :::#The link you sent me is under the ] of Wiki'''media'''. Do you really want me to follow what is written there? (Did you actually read what is written inside?) | |||
| :::#I am '''not''' complaining about '''who''' reverted, but about the fact that the guy who should simply protect a page '''reverted to his preferred version''', and this is not what "wrong version" means. If you accept a request for protection, you are not allowed to do an arbitration at the same time. | |||
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| I found pictures of the new Nike kit on the website. The English language version has not been updated, but you can see the images in the latest news section of the Serbian language version. There is also another English language-only website that reports on South-Eastern European football, and you see a news article there as well . --] 16:55, 12 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| You're wikilawyering, and I (and many other admins) am not a big fan of that. Go with the intent and the spirit not the letter. You've been warned and just so you know, you now have more admins watching you than before. I characterise your behaviour as borderline incivil and I caution you again to be more civil or there will be consequences. This warning needs to stay. ++]: ]/] 14:19, 12 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :There is no photo recently that confirms the socks, but there is a old image that they did released before the kit was finalized that also represents this ... . There was also an article on that confirmed this as well as the white away kit, but there are no images there. --] 18:45, 12 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Elo ratings history on national football team infobox == | |||
| (I removed the reference to category humor, you need to prefix it with a : for it not to add the page to the category)... and yes I've read it many times. I suspect you haven't read it enough times yet to know why it applies in this case, because it does. ++]: ]/] 14:25, 12 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Hi, saw your addition of the optional Elo rating history fields to ]. Good concept, and personally I support Elo ratings over FIFA ratings generally. But - do you know of an actual source for this data? The Elo ratings site itself seems only to have the maximum rating for each team, with no date, and nothing about the lowest rating. -- ] 10:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :In that case, could you please quote the relevant section here? Thanks.--] 14:26, 12 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi. I plan to take each team page, with all the matches and the relative rankings, grep each team line, take the highest and lowest ranking, and publish them. I shall add the first values soon.--] 13:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == www.soccer-europe.com == | |||
| Actually, in the user's discussion page at ], it says: | |||
| :''Soccer-europe.com 20:39, 10 March 2006 (UTC)To all authors : Please make sure my site is credited whenever my images are used as follows : | |||
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| :© http://soccer-europe.com'' | |||
| I realize I neglected to include the copyright symbol, but it's clear that the user wants the site credited every time images from the site are used. ] 00:26, 19 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I agree that it's not that important to have pictures for footballer pages, but personally, I'd prefer to have an image with a copyright notice than to have users keep putting up unfree images they find on websites. To me, that's the lesser of the two evils. But if you want to take the pictures down, I won't have a problem with it. ] 00:32, 19 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I'm not sure, but I think ] is the best place to start, since the page is devoted to discussing images from soccer-europe.com, and maybe add a link to the discussion at ]? ] 00:46, 19 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Spanish Legion == | |||
| I have ] the article Spanish Foreign Legion for renaming to its current official name, Spanish Legion. Regards, ]] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 12:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Kit Colours == | |||
| I got the kit colours of: http://www.national-football-teams.com/php/land.php?landid=264, but I'm not sure if they are right or not. - ] 16:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == copyright violations == | |||
| Those logos do not fall under fair use doctrine or copyright violations, as they have been produced in the public domain. They can be used as if they were any other free use image on Misplaced Pages. If you continue these actions, you may be subject to longer blocks. ] 00:25, 24 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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- It's a good rule of thumb to not edit war, ever, over what another user does on his/her talkpage. You run a big risk of being seen as petty or frivolous when you do that, and the 3RR might be enforced against you instead. The removal of warnings on one's own page is "discouraged", not outlawed, and the 3RR is usually not enforced against such edits. Anyway, he removes a warning, that means he's seen it. There's no need to keep shoving it in his face. Please leave his page alone. Bishonen | talk 00:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC).
--Kwame Nkrumah 16:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Re: Serbia kits
I found pictures of the new Nike kit on the Football Association of Serbia website. The English language version has not been updated, but you can see the images in the latest news section of the Serbian language version. There is also another English language-only website that reports on South-Eastern European football, and you see a news article there as well JadranSport. --Lowg 16:55, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
- There is no photo recently that confirms the socks, but there is a old image that they did released before the kit was finalized that also represents this ... another article on JadranSport. There was also an article on UEFA.com that confirmed this as well as the white away kit, but there are no images there. --Lowg 18:45, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Elo ratings history on national football team infobox
Hi, saw your addition of the optional Elo rating history fields to Template:Infobox National football team. Good concept, and personally I support Elo ratings over FIFA ratings generally. But - do you know of an actual source for this data? The Elo ratings site itself seems only to have the maximum rating for each team, with no date, and nothing about the lowest rating. -- Wantok 10:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hi. I plan to take each team page, with all the matches and the relative rankings, grep each team line, take the highest and lowest ranking, and publish them. I shall add the first values soon.--Kwame Nkrumah 13:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
www.soccer-europe.com
Actually, in the user's discussion page at User talk:Soccer-europe.com, it says:
- Soccer-europe.com 20:39, 10 March 2006 (UTC)To all authors : Please make sure my site is credited whenever my images are used as follows :
- © http://soccer-europe.com
I realize I neglected to include the copyright symbol, but it's clear that the user wants the site credited every time images from the site are used. Ytny 00:26, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that it's not that important to have pictures for footballer pages, but personally, I'd prefer to have an image with a copyright notice than to have users keep putting up unfree images they find on websites. To me, that's the lesser of the two evils. But if you want to take the pictures down, I won't have a problem with it. Ytny 00:32, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure, but I think User talk:Soccer-europe.com is the best place to start, since the page is devoted to discussing images from soccer-europe.com, and maybe add a link to the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Football? Ytny 00:46, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Spanish Legion
I have listed the article Spanish Foreign Legion for renaming to its current official name, Spanish Legion. Regards, E Asterion 12:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Kit Colours
I got the kit colours of: http://www.national-football-teams.com/php/land.php?landid=264, but I'm not sure if they are right or not. - Nick C 16:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
copyright violations
Those logos do not fall under fair use doctrine or copyright violations, as they have been produced in the public domain. They can be used as if they were any other free use image on Misplaced Pages. If you continue these actions, you may be subject to longer blocks. Ryūlóng 00:25, 24 August 2006 (UTC)