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== TV.com as a reliable source ==


I have had a change negated again, stating that TV.com is not a reliable source. This is the exact quote from the editing page for the Mystic Force episode area:
== Mystic Wizards/Titans ==


"If there are episodes added here that are not listed on TV.com's page, they will be deleted and you will be warned for deliberately introducing false information into this article.
Is there a difference between the Mystic Wizards and Mystic Titans. I thought the wizards were like Udonna, Daggeron, Calindor (before he was corrupted by evil and the Titans were the Minotaur, Fairy, Phoenix, etc. --] 19:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
{{Main|List of Power Rangers: Mystic Force episodes}}"
:The Mystic Wizards are the five great warriors who fought against the forces of the Underworld in the Great Battle. Udonna's husband Alianbow was one of them. The Mystic Titans are the Power Rangers' zord forms. The Ancient Titans are ancient beings that the Mystic Force Rangers and the Mystic Wizards got their powers from. See the Heavenly Saints in '']'' for the Ancient Titans. ] 20:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:You really shouldn't point someone in the direction of Sentai, they are very different shows.--] 01:40, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
::Regardless, the Ancient Titans/Heavenly Saints are seen during the Rangers' Morphing sequence as well as during one of the Titan Megazord Finisher moves (the Spirits of the Ancient Titans/Titan Slash attack). The Mystic Wizards got their powers from the Ancient Titans, too. Think of the Mystic Rangers as higher-tech Mystic Wizards. ] 01:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
:That really doesn't matter. They are two different shows, no matter how you cut it. As far as you know, there will never be a storyline about it.--] 04:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
::But they are still different sets of characters. The Ancient Titans give their powers to the Mystic Wizards and to the Mystic Rangers. The Mystic Rangers transform into the Mystic Titans, which are also powered by the Ancient Titans. And the Ancient Titans have been used through the fight footage and the morphing footage. The Mystic Wizards were merely in the prologue sequence. ] 04:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
:Let's think logically, has this ever been said in the season? No it hasn't. Of course I wouldn't expect you to know that due to the fact you've only seen a handfull of episodes.--] 06:37, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
::So? In the episodes I have seen, the beings known as the Heavenly Saints in Magiranger are featured during the Mystic Rangers' morphing sequences. And when the "Spirits of the Ancient Titans" attack is used, the footage shows the Heavenly Saints as well. It may have not been said by the show that Disney has named the Heavenly Saints the "Ancient Titans", but based on the evidence in the show itself from the dubbed Magiranger footage, the Ancient Titans are the beings shown during the previously stated sequences. And stop mentioning that I haven't seen the entire series, so far. I have watched a handful of episodes, but I have also seen a few episodes through online services such as youtube and the Jetix player. ] 06:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


This specifically states that TV.com is a reliable source for corroboration of an episode's status. Unless the admin changes that wording, my change can stand and should not be altered as that change itself should be considered vandalism.
== Daggeron's Wizard ==


Thank you.
Could Daggeron have been the Yellow/gold Mystic Wizard before come the Solaris Knight? ] 18:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
:No. The Yellow Mystic Wizard had the power of Lightning and Daggeron has the power of the Sun. In Magiranger, Daggeron's counterpart was simply one of the Heavenly Saints, analagous to the Ancient Titans in Mystic Force. The same goes for Callindor, he was simply another magical being that turned evil. ] 19:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
:Also Daggeron and Calindor were fighting at the time the five Mystics and Niela were fighting the forces of the underworld. Hint: Notice why Koragg isn't seen in any of the flashbacks and he seems to be able to wield the element of fire?--] 01:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


:The problem with using TV.com as a reliable source is that the three main people who have control over that article, and who put up the episode titles (and one of which is the one who got those titles through their press connections in the first place) rose a GIGANTIC stink here and on various PR message boards when we claimed the Operation Overdrive logo wasn't fair to use since it didn't have a reliable source. You can read the bulk of those discussions on the ]. The episode page for MF saying that should have been changed immediately after that discussion fully ended, and why it wasn't, I'll never know. ] 19:11, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
== "Morlocks"? ==
::Exactly. It's better to use TV Guide (which is rarely wrong) and the television commercials to gauge when a new episode airs. Right now, we don't know anything about the airdate of episode 30 from a source that isn't someone who has press connections. ] 21:15, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Why are the villains (or at least some of the villains) referred to as Morlocks? I read about the Morlocks in another article and the "Morlocks" from Mystic Force are nothing like the true Morlocks mentioned in the article. How did the term "Morlock" come about anyway? I know that originally the Hidiacs (and maby the Styxoids too) were going to be referred to as Morlocks but how did the name come about for the whole villains group? They are never called "Morlocks" in the show at all. And where did someone find out that the Master of the Underworld's name is Octomus? {{unsigned|Unknown Dragon}}
:::My point is that this wikipedia page specifically stated that TV.com was a source to be relied upon as episode verification. That is until that statement was removed by Ryulong.] 22:39, 4 October 2006 (CST)
:I'm not sure where "Morlock" comes from, but Octomus is mentioned elsewhere and was then released to Rangerboard. I'm going to check on this. ] 07:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
:Morlock may have been the early name for all of the Underworld forces. I don't know if it has been used, though, in the series. I've only been watching intermittently since "The Gatekeeper". ] 07:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC) ::::And we had decided it was wrong and never had the chance to change it until you brought it to our attention. Please stop being disruptive about this. ] 04:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
:: The term "Morlocks" has never been used in the series and was only used in I believe the press sheet that came out before Mystic Force aired. Also, what makes you qualified to edit this page if you have only been watching since the Gatekeeper? ]
::: Since when does one have to be "qualified" in a subject to edit its Misplaced Pages page? I have seen Inner Strength, Ranger Down, all of Dark Wish (I was the one to write out the bulk of its summary while I was watching it), and while I still can watch it while I'm not at school, I'll continue to watch. ] 19:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


== YYYY-MM-DD? ==
You don't have to be "qualified", but the more you've seen of something, the more knowledge you have of said thing. Taking people's word for things is the number one way to get some bad info.--] 01:37, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
:This from a guy who was kicked off a message board for spouting BS. The irony...]; ]. ]. 05:41, 2 August 2006 (UTC)


Why on earth is this page using such a format? In the interests of catering to our internationl readers, I always prefer to write out the entire date instead of getting into edit wars and confusion over the numerical DD-MM or MM-DD format (like if it's supposed to be March 2 or February 3). Today, however, that edit was blindly reverted (even though I had done other work, such as proseifying the damn trivia section), so I'm wondering about it. ] 06:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
== Steedergon Fury Megazord ==
:] ] (]) 07:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, and when you rewrote the trivia section you accidentally blanked several other sections in the process. ] (]) 07:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


Well, that was strange. I guess it probably happened when I was moving the section up to be just under the synposis. ] 08:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
During the opening credits for Mystic Force recently they've shown the Steedergon Fury Megazord (Saint Kaiser for ]), but that combination only appeared in the "Bride of the Infershia" movie, does anyone know by chance if they are going to make an episode/movie of PR: Mystic Force based on the Bride of the Infershia movie? Or did they just use the Steedergon Fury Megazord/Saint Kaiser for the toyline?] 22:54, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:Saint Kaiser did appear in the series following its appearance in "Bride of Infershia". It will more than likely appear in ''Heir Apparent, Part II'' in which the Steedergon Fury will fight the Centaurus Wolf (if memory serves). ] 23:00, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, it was in Stage 34, and it's vs. Chimera (and WolKaiser VERY briefly), for the record.] 23:38, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I assume, then, that the Stage 34 adaptation is coming up, as the Chimera monster was already made in Part I of Heir Apparent, and the information on the second half has been mentioned to show Leanbow transforming back. ] 23:43, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
::::HA Part 2 will be the Stage 34 adaptation. The Rangers'll escape, Nick will destroy Chimera, more Koragg vs. Nick, then Octomus' "revival".] 00:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I thought that following the Koragg vs. Nick, the Ten Terrors (Infershia Pantheon) would arise. ] 00:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::Well, it's kind of a "false revival".... You'll see. But yeah, the Hades Gods will show up in ''The Light''] 01:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


== Koragg/Leanbow/Defender blah ==
== Blue Mystic Wizard ==


Let's wait for this episode to air '''before''' we start putting Leanbow all over the Ranger sections and removing him from the allies sections, okay? —] (]) 02:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone but me think that the Blue Wizard is a female. (1) In ''Heir Apparent Part 1'' a closeup shows more of a female than a male but a (male/female) with long hair. (2) The Blue Mystic Wizard could not have been a male because Madison is the Blue Ranger and a male symbol would not have been the mermaid, therefore could not be a male. ] 01:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:I am not that sure. I would definitely have to pay attention when the episode will air again (which will more than likely be this Friday before the airing of the second half) or check a youtube clip. I thought that the Blue Mystic Wizard was male when I first saw it, but you could be right. ] 02:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:No. The Blue Mystic Wizard is a man. He is wearing the same clothing that the Yellow and Green Mystic Wizards and Leanbow after he transformed from Koragg to his Ancient Mystic Mode and then as a human. The Pink Mystic Wizard wore something different, and was obviously the female wizard's/sorceress' garbs, where the Yellow, Green, and Blue wore the male wizard's/sorcerer's garbs. ] 02:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
But how could the titan be a mermaid? It could not be possible! That would mean the Blue Ranger would be male also. ] 14:49, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:It just is. It's the same reason why so many Yellow Rangers in the US were female and male in Japan. ] 21:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
But don't forget that Madison's counterpart (Urara/MagiBlue) was a female, so that couldn't have been a legible excuse. ] 00:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
:First, please stop making new headers about the same topic. It is easier to respond in this one. Second, while yes, Urara and Madison are both women, it has been a common practice that Yellow Rangers that were men in Super Sentai, were made into women for Power Rangers. Regardless of the fact that the Blue Mage is represented by a Mermaid, Disney decided to make the Blue Mystic Wizard a man. It is clear that he is a man when watching the clip from ''Heir Apparent, Part I''. He is wearing the same tunic/outfit as the Yellow and Green Mystic Wizards, and later on, Leanbow is wearing the same. The Blue Mystic Wizard also made a very masculine grunt when he was thrown against a wall/column/something, and the Pink Mystic Wizard was seen wearing a different outfit than the others, and she was a woman. It's another plothole/unexplained situation that occurs in the translation; similar to how we haven't officially seen any sort of Ancient Titans/Heavenly Saints (Flagel, Bolgel, Spagel, Wingel, Groungel) (yet). ] 01:01, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, the Blue Mystic actor was a man, as well as the Pink Mystics, I rewatched the episode 5 times and saw that all the actors were men, probably because they couldn't find female stuntmen willing to do Power Rangers unless they were getting credit, most likely. ] 02:32, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


Ok, although the promo specifically shows him morphing :/ http://youtube.com/watch?v=7QgNpFrCu_I is a link to the promo =P ] 05:49, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
==Trivia section==
:Whether or not the promo shows Leanbow morphing is not the issue. The fact is that it hasn't occured in the show, yet, and we don't know any sort of information relating to this "news". <s>How long will it be until the ep airs, anyway? A week? Two weeks?</s> The wiki'll be fine for another week without information that plasters Mr Leanbow all over these pages :P —] (]) 05:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


== Episode Airdates ==
Does anybody else think that this is unnecessarily long? While I personally would push for the removal of all "This is the second (+) season to..."'s, I think that, at least, we should make a cutoff (I was thinking maybe 3), and remove all notes with numbers past that (i.e. "This is the fourth/fifth season to..."). I also think we should get rid of all the seemingly unrelated trivia (like how the Xenotome is like the Book of Shadows from Charmed). Any arguments for or against either movement? ] 05:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:This is what happened with ]'s trivia section. Cull whatever you find too trivial. ] 05:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


Sorry, can't really explain what I mean in the small area they give. The Promo for the finale stated that it would take a week starting November 6th to tell it all. Now, The Return MUST air on the 30th of October, as if the marathon starts the 6th, then chances are, it will start with the first episode again, not with a new episode. Which leaves the only open monday (as said in "The Return" Promo), the 30th., Mystic Fate may in fact air on the 13th, but as the promo said the 6th, should be put there until jetix confirms or denies it as the start of the marathon, or the airdate of the finale. If the 30th, The return does not appear, it will be changed to November 6th, as it could possibly air along with the finale, which, if the finale is confirmed to be at the end of the marathon (if there is one, and not just the finale), the date will be changed to the 13th, which would be the next logical point. Hopefully you all understand what I just wrote LOL. (Ryulong, not violating what you said, but Jetix itself released the promos, until proven false by airing on TV, we have to keep it posted, as Jetix has made a major amount of mistakes on their website before, i.e. when they post the wrong episodes, or when they posted an episode for an hour, then it was broken for like 3 days.) ] 23:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
== Episodes ==


:New 30 sec promo confirmed the 6th is the start of the marathon and what exactly it is, and stated week long, therefore, the finale is to air on the 13th. Promo can be found here soon, as soon as it's done processing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsVmBIip4UA ] 04:51, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Due to my recent discussion on whether or not the logo for ] that has been accepted by the online communities as official, it appears that the users who felt that I was wrong also feel that because the logo that they feel is official is not to be included, than any episodes that are equally released early through the online communities should also not be included on Misplaced Pages. Before any sort of final decision is made against our wills, what should be done in this situation? ] 03:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
:Also, if this is solely about my endorsement of the protection of Operation Overdrive, then I have the following statements:
:*There is a major difference between an episode title (or a small group of episode titles) and the logo that can be utilized as a computer wallpaper, and cannot currently be released on Misplaced Pages due to ].
:*Episode titles have been continually released or leaked to the public; there have also been instances where the outcome of major game shows have been leaked. The episode titles are also one or two words long.
:As for the logo, here are the reasons why it cannot be used inline on Misplaced Pages currently:
:*It is not from a television screenshot, such as being taken from the opening sequences of the show, because the television series is either in pre-production or normal production.
:*It was also released by someone within the fandom who has connections, and he then proceeded to upload it to his personal webspace, not link to it from its original website, because that site is password protected.
:I am not saying that the source is unreliable, it is just that currently, without a descent source for the image itself (where it was acquired) it cannot be used inline in the article or uploaded to Misplaced Pages, and may be deleted for lacking a source. ] 04:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
::Because of the constant edits to remove the information to make a ], episode titles will only be listed here until they are released on TV Guide's website, or if there is a screenshot provided of the page that lists the new episode title. ] 06:34, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


::Still no CONFIRMED date for The Return, but as the promo stated Monday, once monday rolls by, if it isn't then, then the date can be changed to the 6th of November, otherwise, its much more likely there was a website error then a TV Promo being aired multiple times error =P ] 04:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
== Series Name ==
I'm curious. If this guide is going to refer to the series as "Power Rangers: Mystic Force," why is it linking to IMDB, which refers to it as "Power Rangers Mystic Force." Moreover, why is this guide linking to IMDB PERIOD? If IMDB is a reliable source, I'm Walt Disney. ] 02:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:This isn't a "guide." It's an encyclopedic article. The series name is disputed. It can be "Power Rangers: Mystic Force" or "Power Rangers Mystic Force". However, Disney materials treat "Mystic Force" as a subtitle to "Power Rangers", just like Disney materials treat "Operation Overdrive" as a subtitle in their press release. ] 02:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:As such, all Power Rangers articles are treated as titles with subtitles, with colons. ] 02:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::Can you provide a link to material that refers to "Mystic Force" as a subtitle? For sake of argument, the logo doesn't count, as the original series is not referred to as "Mighty Morphin: Power Rangers." Also, I think argument over the semantics of what this webpage should be referred to is both off-topic and moot. ] 02:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, I do not have information relating to the press release from last year that would mention Mystic Force as a subtitle, yet, but there is this information about Disney's usage of subtitles for next year: {{cquote|Power Rangers — DCP's #1 Boys Brand<br>DCP kicked-off its year experiencing strong demand for ''Power Rangers'' action figures, its perennial boy's property, during the Holiday 05 season. In 2005, ''Power Rangers'' was ranked second in the action figure category behind Star Wars, according to The NPD Group. Next year's theme will be called ''Power Rangers: Operation Overdrive''. Power Rangers airs more than 65 times each week in over 40 territories worldwide, and continues to expand worldwide with successful launches in Italy, India and other countries this year.|20px|20px|Disney's Press Release |https://licensing.disney.com/Login/displayContent.do?layout=pressReleaseDetail&contentId=335885&returnLayout=pressRoom}}] 02:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm not debating the use of a colon or subtitles for next year's series. This page is about Mystic Force, as the question was. ] 02:44, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


::: Was Right for once xD Yay! :D Still gotta wait an hour for it to air here though -.- ] 03:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
::--One press release, in the face of all other official merchandise and sites (see Jetix.tv that lists not only Power Rangers Mystic Force, but SPD, Dino Thunder and Ninja Storm as well), should not make the rule. That is the exception, not everything else.


== Power Ranger ethnicity ==
:The information about this series changes with every episode that airs. It seems very silly to ban editing based on a argument over a colon. Colons are used for every other series on this website. Why is it any concern of anyone whether or not it's used on THIS one? Leave the colon in for continuity's sake if nothing else.
::Additionally, this press release is for the next show, and should not retconn the names of all previous shows. ] 02:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


:The team also does not feature a Black Power Ranger, a trend started in ''Ninja Storm''.
::The page is protected to diffuse the edit war, which is disruptive to other edits. --] ] 02:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, I am trying to find anything for Mystic Force, but I found contradictions within Disney's press releases itself for any usage. , for example, they refer to SPD as "Power Rangers Space Patrol Delta", but they refer to it as "Power Rangers: SPD". Similarly, Disney refers to ''Dino Thunder'' as "Power Rangers Dino Thunder" and "Power Rangers DinoThunder". In fact, . ] 02:53, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::This is why I would argue that the colons are inappropriate in series titles (with the possible exception of next year's series). ] 02:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::However, it still appears that Disney is inconsistent, and the various parts of the titles such as "Zeo" or "Mystic Force" are still considered subtitles to "Power Rangers". There would be nothing short of calling whoever is currently in charge with the PR for PR and asking them. And, even though I feel differently, . Nor does utilize colons. I will check Rovang's site to see how he deals with the titles. ] 02:59, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::And he does not appear to be very consistent on the Sentai Sanctorum, or at least clear in his meaning. On series where a Power Rangers series/season was based, the Sentai side has (for example) "Hundred Beast Task Force '''GAORANGER'''" and the PR side has "'''POWER RANGERS''' Wild Force", although he does utilize a warning at the top where he states the series name as "Power Rangers Wild Force" . 03:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::So, am I right in assuming that with the possible exception of next year's series, Power Rangers titles across the years do not utilize colons (at least according to a majority of all sources)? ] 03:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Well, we do not know if Disney will release another press release that omits the colon, as it has for SPD. ] 03:06, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Barring future releases, is my conclusion not logical? ] 03:08, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:The simple fact that there is this much debate and inconsistancy over the colons should lead one to the conclusion that it doesn't matter how it's written. Both are accepted. However, since every other article for the other seasons uses colons, it only makes sense to keep them on this article. It is the accepted form for this website. ] 03:06, 12 August 2006
::As ] has pointed out, this is an "encyclopedia article." I am not debating the "accepted form for this website." I'm debating the actual, legitimate name of the series. ] 03:09, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::But still, consistency within the encyclopedia would include this article. Whatever form is discovered to be the true one will be used for the Misplaced Pages articles, however the source material itself is conflicting. ] 03:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::In that case, I challenge that no series that has yet aired (i.e., not including next year) has included a colon in it's title. Moreover, I challenge that the names of the series as listed in the Misplaced Pages are grammatically, from a punctuation perspective, incorrect. ] 03:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, I'll make this much easier. Produce for me evidence that any Saban-produced series (i.e. Wild Force and before) -EVER- utilized a colon in the title. I contend that while the evidence for Disney shows may be contradictory, I have NEVER come across official material naming any of the Saban-produced shows with a colon. ] 03:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::One could also argue that this is a debate over whether one person has the right to dictate what gets put on a WIKI website. Ryu is not the only person in the PR fandom, and not even the person with the most connections for information. Simply because he doesn't agree with information put on the site, doesn't mean that it doesn't have a legitimate reason to be there. (I'll refer to the Bowen incident, even though Ryu did listen to me and accept the change, that was only after he changed the info, threatened to report me, and I had to change it back) {{unsigned|69.132.127.27}}
:::This site isn't controlled by one person, and that's why the page is protected: to force dialog and establish consensus, which is the glue that keeps Misplaced Pages together. --] ] 03:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::Exactly my point. It shouldn't be controlled by one person. However when one person puts notes into the site, saying "DONT WRITE THIS" simply because they have decided it shouldn't be there and then delete others contributions, then goes to the administration because someone dared to disagree with them, the site is being "controlled". I agree that this discussion should be taking place here, and not through a battle of wills on the editting page, but there is a large issue than colons.
:::::The titles of all of the series are grammatically correct. The correct punctuation for a movie or television show that is part of a larger series and has its own subtitle is to have the two titles separated by a colon. The proper way to write the title of a Star Wars movie, for instance, is to write it as "Star Wars: Episode X...." ] 03:19, 12 August 2006
::::::So, should the article for "Mighty Morphin Power Rangers" be renamed to "Mighty Morphin: Power Rangers" or "Power Rangers: Mighty Morphin"? ] 03:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Not at all. MMPR is the origin of the seris, it has its own title. From Zeo and on, the series as a whole became known as Power Rangers, with each season adopting its own subtitle.] 03:22, 12 August 2006
::::::I will neither agree nor disagree with the statement that the colon is appropriate for the title of a series, in this case, in the Misplaced Pages. I am looking to the larger issue -- is the official name of PRMF "Power Rangers Mystic Force" or "Power Rangers: Mystic Force". The Wiki-eese used for documentation is not what I am debating, and moreover, is none of my concern. ] 03:29, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::It is this dispute that we are trying to discern in this discussion. If "Mystic Force" is not a subtitle for the current season/series, then it can be construed that it is the same for all previous and future series, as such, they will be renamed to omit the colon. If it is a subtitle, then the colons will remain. It is in this discussion that we are trying to figure out the true name of the series, whether it is a grammatically correct name per ]s, or the commonly accepted name that omits a colon and a subtitle. However, "Mighty Morphin Power Rangers" was the name for the first series, there was no subtitle at that time. The same goes for "Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers". Another example is "Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Movie" or "Turbo: A Power Rangers Movie". Both utilize subtitles as part of the main title, and Rmssw is correct in using the Star Wars films as an analogy to this situation. ] 03:24, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:And my point all along has been that there is no confirmable answer to the discussion. Both forms have been used in offical ways. Since there is no foreseeable end to this discussion, why continue it? Leave the titles as they are. ] 03:29, 12 August 2006
::As Mystic Force has infact been referred to either way, I will drop the argument in the case of PRMF. ] 03:32, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::While Mystic Force has been settled (possibly), we (Misplaced Pages) have to come to a consensus here on a style for naming articles within all of Power Rangers. It appears that Disney (don't know about Saban) utilizes both a form that omits a colon and one that utilizes a colon to signify a subtitle. Currently, there are redirects set in place for omissions of the colon, but I think that it should be decided here, while we can, to try and come up with a ] for the nomenclature of articles on Power Rangers. Should the colon be omitted due to common use? Or should it be included for grammatical reasons that show the difference between the title "Power Rangers" and the subtitles (Zeo, Turbo, In Space, Lost Galaxy, Lightspeed Rescue, Time Force, Wild Force, Ninja Storm, Dino Thunder, S.P.D./Space Patrol Delta/SPD, Mystic Force, Operation Overdrive). ] 03:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::As I have previously stated (and this is from memory, and not from verifiable releases), I don't recall Saban EVER using the colon. So, let's say hypothetically that Saban never used the colon. Treating Disney and Saban equally, and being overly fair, saying that Disney uses the colon 50% of the time, then 25% of the time a colon is used in a series title. However, at this point in time, there are more Saban-produced series than Disney series. I believe, based on this logic, while some series can be referred to either way, the lack of a colon is the more correct version. ] 03:42, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::: Based on grammar rules alone, "In Space" is an argument for no colons, since in press releases et al, it is referred to as Power Rangers in Space, or PRiS. Inserting a colon breaks the clause. {{unsigned|69.132.127.27}}
:::Well, since you're unlikely to find anything official dating back to the Saban days and it's clear that Disney makes no distinction, I think we should stick with the current form using colons. It is grammatically correct and makes sense for the series as a whole. And let's be clear that the offical logos for the shows don't count. They are just that: logos. There wouldn't be punctuation in them anyway. I will concede that PRIS is a possible exception. Perhaps we just change that one.] 03:44, 12 August 2006
::::However, can you find a source from Saban that does or does not omit the colon? The decision made here (whatever it may be, omission or inclusion) should affect the other episode titles, not just those produced by Disney. However, I can agree that "Power Rangers in Space" would make much more sense than "Power Rangers: In Space". However, series such as Zeo or Lightspeed Rescue should probably still include the colon within the title. ] 03:46, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::We have previously documented the officiality of "bandai verification." I can provide evidence of many of the Saban-era series through official Bandai promotional materials that have not utilized colons. ] 03:48, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::However, Misplaced Pages titles should be grammatically correct. I will not object to moving "]" to "]" (in fact, I may start a requested move for it soon). However, all other series that are similarly named should follow the conventions that we are trying to set here. ] 03:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::In the case of PRiS, the colon is just ugly. All the other series (with the possible exception of Zeo), work either way. But, the only way to appropriately "force" a colon for PRiS is to call it "Power Rangers: Space", which we can all agree is incorrect. ] 03:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I have made a requested move for PRiS's article at ] and I have set up the discussion there. The page cannot be moved currently, because there is a redirect in its place. However, for the other series, I still feel that the names should be done in the grammatically correct fashion for titles and subtitles (and maybe we would have to set up a redirect for Zeo with ], as that appears to be used in some sources; although the accepted name omits "Mighty Morphin" from the title). ] 04:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::As pointed out by a user at another site, the use of no colon IS grammatically correct. It's the "noun–postpositive adjective construction". As we have said, there is no history of ANY use of colons from the Saban-era, and since that era is much more lengthy, it can easily take precedence. So, do you want to do the necessary proposed moves, or shall someone else?] 20:55, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Except that is not the case here. It is "Series/franchise title: Subtitle/Season's theme". And what happens on Rangerboard cannot affect what goes on here because of ]. This discussion is not over yet, as there are plenty of users who have not made their points yet. ] 21:00, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Also, you have to read the discussion below, which states every issue clearly. ] 21:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
As pointed out by ], the use of colons in official material has varied, leaving it ambigious as to what is the proper title for this, and previous Power Rangers series. However, given the fact that both titles are used officially, at the very least it should be mentioned in the article that the title can be refered to as ''Power Rangers Mystic Force'' or ''Power Rangers: Mystic Force'' (please do not start an edit war over which one is listed first...). In regards to the actual title of the article, since it is clearly debateable, I submit the following points:
:* Various novel, television, and movie series which share a common title (], ], ], ], each have individual titles for their respective sequels and spinoffs. These are clearly meant as subtitles. A brief reading of the proper use of ] shows that a colon is supposed to be used to seperate a main title from a subtitle.
:* Take, as an example, ]. A view of the movie posters and official merchandise clearly shows no colon whatsoever seperating ] from any of the specific titles for the three movies, yet it is clearly written in a way to imply that it is a ]. When a movie, book, or television series write the main series title in a larger front then the specific title, then it is clearly implied that the specific title is a subtitle. Therefore, regardless of what the official movie posters and such state, in proper English the title should be written with a colon
:* However, even with this notion of font size implying a difference between a title and a subtitle, one cannot completely disregard the English language. Clearly, a title such as ''Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers'' is not meant to be two titles, and should never be confused with a subtitle. ''Power Rangers in Space'' is also clearly not intended as a subtitle ''In Space'' clearly makes no sense.
:* Also note that press releases are, unfortunately, not the best examples of the use of the English language.
Therefore, seeing as how the titles of the series implies that they are a main title and a subtitle, it is correct to include a colon. This is backed up by some press releases, although the significance of press releases in determining the proper punctuation is debateable. Also, I personally cannot find a single novel, TV series, or movie series that has an implied subtitle without the article containing colons here on Misplaced Pages.


I've removed this pending clarification: edit summaries aren't a great way to communicate. For one thing, if we're just saying "black" then doesn't the Red Ranger from Ninja Storm qualify? I can't find anything on ethnicity for ], who plays Jack in S.P.D. ] 04:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
It is my opinion that, since there is no clear cut side as to which is correct based on official publications, that the policy of Misplaced Pages should be to lean towards the option that uses proper English, merely because it is the only other element which can be used to define the validity of either title, as well as the commonality in the fact that this use of a colon is almost universal on Misplaced Pages.


:Shane is Samoan ^^;, Jack is African American, it is the Black ranger that hasn't been in since Ninja Storm, the color, not the ethnicity xD ] 04:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Quite frankly, this much debate of a colon is of no use, since either way, they go to the same article and neither will technically change someone's knowledge of the show. ''A'' title must be chosen, and this one makes the most sense from the standpoint of Misplaced Pages's use of colons on other pages. Therefore it will not do much harm to leave the title with the English-proper colon. ] 23:08, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


::So then it should be decapitalized. ] 05:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
===Colon discussion===
If you want to go by accepted names, by accepted I assume you mean the fandom. Including official sites, what is the most commonly used form? Also, what is the most accepted form by the fans? Since this is a FAN site, put it to a vote. {{unsigned|69.132.127.27}}
:Except ]. And yes, by accepted names, I refer to those both from the fandom and those that are official. Both "Power Rangers: Zeo" and "Power Rangers Zeo" are acceptable names; however "Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: Zeo" is not. ] 04:06, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::However it is. It may not be a fansite in the traditional sense, but it is a site that is contributed to and edited by fans. If the information is verifiable. Since both forms are verifiable at multiple official sites and releases, it leaves it to the fans to agree on an accepted form. So let them vote. {{unsigned|69.132.127.27}}
:::The "vote" is going on as we speak. Here, we are trying to, as part of this discussion, decide on the style of titles for the Series after MMPR/AR (save for PRiS which), use a colon, as that is the grammatically correct thing to when considering subtitles, or omit the colon, which is something that appears more often than not in the Fandom (I could cite two separate threads on RB that could also show the fandom is not consistent, the OO logo thread, and the "Let's talk about PRMF" threads). ] 04:17, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I vote in favor of NO COLONs. {{unsigned|SonicEX}}
:::::And as I've said, this is not a vote. It is a discussion, and if you are going to create accounts to stack a non-existant vote (the above user's first edit is here), it will only make things worse for your side. ] 04:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::: I did not make that account, however this is a discussion going on in more than one place. It should be a vote. Make a poll on RB, or let people vote here. What the majority of fans use should be used on the site, since its verifiable either way. PLUS, you yourself said that the "vote is going on as we speak". {{unsigned|69.132.127.27}}
::::Voting for no colons. Come on people, this is ridiculous.] 04:29, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I apologize for this, I honestly do, seeing as I leave the editting of something as in depth as a Wiki article to the proper folks, but you contradict yourself, Ryulong. In one reply, you say, and I quote 'The "vote" is going on as we speak.' But, no sooner had someone actually cast a ballot in this vote, you say, again quoting, 'And as I've said, this is not a vote.' Contradiction isn't something that is a very good thing in a situation such as this. And, as such? I vote no colons. --] 04:30, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:: Except it is not going to be a poll or a vote. On Misplaced Pages, decisions are made by consensus and arguments towards consensus. For example, on ], decisions are based on which side has made the best argument for the case, not which side has more supporters than the other. Sure, a poll could be set up at RB, but decisions on RB (or any fan site) should really not affect decisions made on Misplaced Pages (or any major project). And I apologize for accusing you of creating the Sonic EX account. It is just suspicious that the new account's first edit comes here. And again, if you, Abe, feel it is necessary to come here, then perhaps a poll should be set up at RB, in addition to the '''discussion''' going on here. ] 04:32, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::That's the thing, though, if I wanted to edit it, I would. And then you would have it changed back. I'm stating it seems very, very odd that you say "this is a vote" and then, not two replies later, state "this isn't a vote." And as far as general consensus? It's becoming obvious that the general consensus is looking towards no colons. At least, from what I see on this page, vote or no vote.--] 04:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::: Again, I emphasize that this is not and should not be a vote or a poll. This should be a discussion, using sources and reasonings behind the reasons. I used "vote" because that is what the IP user feels it is. In the same passage, I mention that this discussion (not a vote) will decide the usage. I am in favor of using colons, as it is grammatically correct to utilize ]s, as is used at the Star Wars films. They're not titled (as an example) "]", but "]", and there are redirects in place for Power Rangers articles at pages that omit the colons that go to the page that includes the colons. ] 04:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:::For lack of a better term, consensus then? Again, general consensus is STILL pointing towards no colon for this title. TVGuide.com makes no mention of colons in the title, same goes with Jetix.tv. Those are offical, up to date guides, with the proper people working behind them, offical people, not members of the Power Rangers fandom, trusted or not. If the offical channels of information make no mention of there being a colon sperating the main title of Power Rangers from the subtitle of any given year, then why should this page, or any of the other pages in lieu of PR, make mention of them? And, I can't help but feel that you did a personal attack against myself in a previous reply. Even if I decided to interject my thoughts into the edits, it wouldn't be my first. Please take the time to research things before claiming them.--] 04:47, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::And that is why I changed my post. It just appeared that after SonicEX made his first post, I falsely assumed that everybody and their mother from RB would come over here and support the single side of the discussion. I am sorry for assuming as such. ] 04:58, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:: Apology accepted, though I will tell you Sonic has posted/edited whatever, before. Anyway, if you're going to say arguing towards consesus, its obvious no consesus will be made. Both sides can support their side with sites... sometimes the same site. Even you, who supports Tvguide.com as a source, have to agree, since TVguide.com doesn't use colons in the titles. The best way to find a consesus would be to vote, involving the fandom that this site is supposedly run by, not just one person. Your Star Wars Analogy would work better if the episodes weren't numbered. There, its very clear that they are subtitles, not part of the Star Wars title. However in Power Rangers its not as clear, as obviously shown through the inconsistency across the board. {{unsigned|69.132.127.27}}
::: Actually, it does not appear that SonicEX editted prior. And I acknowledge the fact that TV guide does not use colons in the titles, however, on Misplaced Pages, decisions are not made through votes. Any sort of discussion that appear as votes are actually discussions, in which valid points are argued, the following of which in this situation are as follows:
:::# For various reliable sources, titles of Power Rangers series omit a colon between the title "Power Rangers" and the subtitle of whatever the season's new theme is. This formatting is accepted by the fandom, and in some situations the source material.
:::# It is grammatically correct to utilize the colon between "Power Rangers" and the subtitle, and this too, is used in some source materials from Disney.
:::However, the information from Disney's press releases is contradictory (as you have pointed out, and as I have discovered through my searches of the site) as are information from other source materials, which has led us to the discussion here. ] 04:50, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::If that's the basis of your argument, why is this discussion still going on? You acknowledge that reliable sources have no colon and that its accepted by the fandom. You even admit that Disney's material is contradictory of itself, using both colons and no colons. So therefore your entire argument is based on a grammar rule, which can be argued for or against. For, because yes subtitles usually are seperated by a colon. Against, because the material on this page should be based on the PR universe and fandom if it contradicts grammar rules. Being true to PR and its fandom should come first. {{unsigned|69.132.127.27}}
:::::And that is why this discussion is occuring. If it is decided that Power Rangers pages should not include a colon in the title due to that being the form most accepted in the fandom, then that change will be made. If it is decided that despite the fandom's uniformity, that grammar rules should be followed, that will be done. My main opposition currently is that I feel that every user from Rangerboard will come here and make no point, just saying "NO COLONS", when Misplaced Pages content is decided upon debates and consensus as well as various other guidelines. ] 05:02, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::There's just one flaw in that logic -- everyone on RB couldn't come to an agreement if it meant they'd all be given $1,000,000 ] 05:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
You're the only person continuously saying that there should be colons. I'm not saying that others don't agree with you, I'm sure some people do, but it seems that the majority don't. Since I don't post on RB, I certainly couldn't say that every person is going to come and post here, though I suppose they might if they had a strong enough opinion. Plus your main "opposition", as you say, is faulty, considering every person who has come to post, except for one, has made a point. You've just chosen to not address them. I mentioned a poll on RB because its where a lot of fans of PR post. Let a wider sampling of the fandom make this decision, not just one or two of us. {{unsigned|69.132.127.27|05:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)}}
:I am not the only person who holds this idea. I did not create any of the PR articles; they were all here when I registered on Misplaced Pages; the creators (who I do not feel like tracking down) felt that subtitles were used. And this decision cannot be made in a single night. We'll let other editors see this. We'll let them make their decisions and arguments. Whether the title of this (and by the decisions made here) and other Power Ranger articles should be changed to omit the colon due to the fact that the fandom uses that formatting or the titles should remain as they are because it is grammatically correct as a title and subtitle will be decided. I do feel that the colon should be included, but if my argument is not taken by others, then I will not fight against changing it back. I have made my point, and others have made theirs. ] 05:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


:::Actually, for some reason, the color of the ranger tends to be capitalized, while ethnicity is decapitalized (makes no sense, but thats how it is in article)
Voting is of no use. Misplaced Pages does not allow ] that is not from a previously established, valid, citable source. Any vote on a forum outside of Misplaced Pages will not be allowed to be used as a claim in the editing of this article. Therefore this arguement is also useless. ] 22:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::]?—] (]) 09:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Because it refers to a specific ranger. White and black do not refer to a specific ethnicity; Caucasian, African-American, Asian, Filipino, etc. all do. ] 04:15, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Tommy was the Black Dino Ranger in Dino Thunder, which was after Ninja Storm. The sentence is false.—] (]) 04:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


==Recent Vandal==
Both sides have made points and cited sources (moreso against the use of a colon than for). If there is going to be no vote, how will we decide this? ] 00:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
:Please hold on, an administrator will answer your question in the order in which it was received. ] 00:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


Sorry, just gotta ask, I just recently realized that the vandalizism of adding "Deltora Warrior" to the page is coming from multiple IPs... I'm not tech savvy so yea, which is why I'm askin =P If in the future he continues to vandalize it witht he same things, is it even possible to block him since he is using multiple IPs? :/ ] 23:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== Requesting change to article ==
:It depends. I'll look into it if he starts up again tomorrow.—] (]) 03:22, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
:Problem solved for the Deltora Warrior ''and'' the episode dates.—] (]) 03:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


==Necrolai/Itassus/Matoombo==
While all of this is going down, I would like to request that an administrator change "Phoenix Fury Zord" to "Phoenix Unizord" under the Zords heading in this article, as that change was done mistakenly prior to the protection. ] 06:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


Posting here in case anyone doesn't like this, as without them, the rangers would've lost (not really matoombo, but was shown at end with vida), I believe they deserve to be in the allies. Also, is it safe to assume the tribunal turned Necrolai into the queen vampire, based on "We did what we had to do" from Dark Wish, after possible seeing the future and knowing what she would have to do? ] 22:05, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
:Done. &mdash; ] ] 19:22, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yes on the Terrors, no on Necrolai.—] (]) 00:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Confused myself xD, So yes on those 2 terrors being in allies, but no to necrolai being there, or no to the necrolai and tribunal thing? =P ] 06:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::No on the tribunal, and after more thought, it'd probably be be best to leave all the characters where they are, and merely mention they have joined the other side.—] (]) 07:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::If you did that, wouldn't you have to move Leelee and the others who changed back too? :/ To keep with continuity, as She was evil at first, but then became an ally, just like Necrolai, Matoombo, and Itassus? ] 08:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Leelee switched sides earlier. Necrolai, Matoombo, and Itassus were all in the finale, more or less.—] (]) 08:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::Still, They ended up being good just like Leelee, why would they still be labeled as Villains? :/ ] 19:58, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::Just to clarify, Matoombo was good before, as well as Itassus, yes Necrolai was only shown to be good for 2 episodes, but we know she has been contemplating things (based on her actions towards Sculpin and such.), not to mention Leanbow was only a ranger 3 episodes, so how is 3 episodes so much bigger then 2? ^^; I understand you didnt change it, just clarifying my point. If Necrolai is moved to Villains, Leanbow should be moved to allies ^^; ] 00:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry about not replying here. All three were evil '''until''' the finale, as they all were in Magiranger with similar lengths. Leanbow's transformation into a Ranger is a much more drastic change than becoming good at the last possible moment. The same characters are listed in these various positions in the articles for their Japanese counterparts. Isamu/Wolzard has entries under the ] and ]. Vancuria/Nai & Mea has an entry under ] only. Sphinx and Titan have entries under ] only. Kat was only a Ranger for a single episode, and she also has her own entries as a Ranger (and an ally).—] (]) 03:55, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::"Leanbow's transformation into a Ranger is a much more drastic change than becoming good at the last possible moment." Sorry, but since when was Necrolai considering settling down with Leelee in Briarwood about 20 episodes back not the beginning of something? Matoombo and Itassus were both good beforehand, which is why theyre in both, but Necrolai should be in allies. Cause as I stated before, she was showing signs of turning good WAY before the finale, people just didn't notice it. (Watch some of the older episodes, and watch her reactions to some of the orders the terrors give her.) ] 07:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I know some of this, but all of the characters are generally thought of as belonging to the single allliance that they were with most. Necrolai was with the villains for the longest time, and Itassus and Matoombo are both part of the Ten Terrors, all of which are villains. It can be mentioned that they switch sides in their respective mentions at their articles, like it is done for Magiranger (if it were possible, we could rename the Villains article so that its side neutralish, but they didn't have a name).—] (]) 07:25, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Gotta ask, name one act of evil that Matoombo commited against the RANGERS (Leanbow was Koragg at the time he attacked him, that would constitute him being under the villains, same with Itassus, when both were asked to stop attacking they did (Yes, they convinced Itassus because she was a puppet, but still, she was asked and she stopped, not to mention without her, Nick and Vida would've been destroyed by Serpentina a few episodes back.) Why not move Nikki Pimvare to allies and leave Necrolai in villains as a compromise? ] 07:28, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I have not had the chance to see the episodes before the finale (I did see Mystic Fate, though). What we could use right now is some sort of unifying name for the villains of PRMF, but there was none. Similar to ], which covers all side switching that existed in Magi. And there is not much that can be said about Nikki other than "Necrolai called herself this after she lost her powers and became human" I would think. It would probably be possible to give Necrolai her own article (she has enough biographical information and whatnot) and then mention there about her side switching and all of that, yet keeping her in both the villain and character categories. There is a similar discussion at ] about his page's status and why it remains as it is.—] (]) 07:34, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::Unless I'm mistaken, they've said Underworld minions and servants multiple times, and isn't Underworld pretty much the same thing as Infershia (when talking about groups) ] 07:37, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Oh, I mean a canon name. They were never given one.—] (]) 07:42, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Still, I think that they should somehow be related to the allies section, if not really in there, their descriptions really don't point towards that. & about the necrolai article, I would do that, but I still don't know how to make wiki pages o.o;; (I'm an idiot like that xD) ] 01:00, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Just so you know, that wasn't me who edited it in, so obviously there are others who feel the way I do o.o; ] 04:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


== BurgundyRanger is good enough == == Magical Beings List ==
I was thinking of adding a section to the main PR: Mystic Force article showing a list of the various Magical and Mythical Beings and Creatures that are shown and mentioned in this show. There was a similar section in the article concerning one of my other favorite tv shows: ] although the section began to grow and expand so much that it was eventually made into a seperate article on its own. I would like to know what everyone's opinions on this are ] 00:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Well, how many magical beings do we have?—] (]) 00:48, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


There are quite a few,
I still don't understand why you need to have another source besides BurgundyRanger. He's always been right and he has access to press material. You know that he does and yet you still need to wait for another source. He is good enough. I don't understand why you can't put "Hard Heads" on the episode list. He's been proven many times as reliable, so why won't you listen? What difference does it make if a reliable source like BurgundyRanger posts stuff of if a TV guide says the stuff. Who cares what's official. BurgundyRanger is 100% reliable and that's all that freakin matters.
Trolls, Goblins, (Troblins) Dragons, Fairies, Titans (The Ancient and Mystic Titans and Matoombo), etc...
: See ] ] 19:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Here's the main article that gave me the idea: ], I was thinking of doing something similar, only on a smaller scale. So what does everyone think of this? ] 01:48, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Ugh... That's because Jake Long is supposed to be like that. I don't think it's necessary to have such a list for this article, as it's not the focus of the series.—] (]) 02:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


==Spelling==
== Larger villians ==
I was just wondering about the spelling of "Leanbow." The closed captions always have it as "Alianbow." I was just curious about which is canon.
In the article, it says that the Imperious & Dark Spector are the largest monsters being 'more than one hundred times larger than the Titan Megazord'. aren't the first ones to become that size the last 3 remaining Psycorangers in PRIS? so that would mean that he's the fourth villian to become that size? but the fifth 'evil' creation to be that size, the first being Serpentera in MMPR ] 20:24, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:I'm fairly sure the Psycho Rangers were normal Megazord size, but I cannot remember that episode. ] 21:07, 12 August 2006 (UTC) :In the credits at the end, his name was spelled as "Leanbow." Closed captioning had "Alianbow" and when you hear it, it's hard to figure out how it is spelt. We are going by the end credits spelling.—] (]) 22:08, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I'm sure the Psycho Rangers in monster form were normal Megazord size, Serpentera was more of a zord than a monster but then that information could be included, I honestly think though that Imperious/Meemy was larger than Serpentera. I'm not sure what size Dark Specter is but he is obviously larger than any normal monster or megazord right?] 21:47, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


== Udonna's helmet ==
PRIS, The Enemy Within, they grow larger then megazord level (the rangers and zords are seen looking up), but its unexplained and not so clear, but the hallmarks are there (camera from below, only background is the sky). how do the Psycho rangers die in Super Sentai? ] 23:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


I was watching the Mystic Force marathon, and noticed that Udonna's White Ranger helmet is a modified version of Maddie's Mystic Mermaid head. Would this be considered Trivia? ] 02:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
== SPD Team Up ==
why was that Trivia added? i thought it hadn't been proven yet? seeing as Piggy has already been in PRMF, there should be a team up ] 20:24, 12 August 2006 (UTC) :Pretty sure it isn't, the White Ranger was in Magiranger long before Legend Mode, so pretty sure it was the opposite somewhat ^^; ] 02:45, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
No, I was referring to Maddie's Zord Form, seen below with white ranger, their helmets are the same.
:There has not been any proof about the SPD team up. There was a posting at RB that said that it would not occur, and I frankly have to believe that, because there is not enough time in Mystic Force to allow a random team-up and complete the storyline. Hell, they're going to have a hard time fitting in the battlizer. ] 21:08, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


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There is Piggy, i'd say thats proof enough that their will be a team up. but then the SPD Red Ranger is in America, as shown by that movie with Amanda Baynes, i forget the title, so may not be able to do a team up. but then, you may well see him in PROO ] 23:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
:I assume you mean ], but I doubt that has anything to do with the lack of a team-up. It is more due to the fact that Mystic Force is trying to put as much storyline into the series as possible, avoiding the unnecessary team-up episode (and maybe to avoid any sort of retconning needed to explain why Jack is a Red S.P.D. Ranger, again), unless they decide to do both, have the S.P.D. team come back and help the Mystic Force team fight one of the Ten Terrors (which is really hard to see happening). ] 00:24, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


: Sorry bout that, by Mystic Mermaid I assumed Legend Mode (too much magiranger FTW!), but, if you notice, the top is less pointed, the eyes arent merged, and a couple other differences ^^; (which of course, just proves they aren't identical), however, I believe this is actually the first time a ranger and a zord do own a modified version of the same helmet, so feel free to add it (Unless Ryulong says no o.o;;):) ] 00:11, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
There will be no team up according to Matt Austins manager. You can send his manager an email, to receive the response that he will not be returning for a reuinion episode for Mystic Force.
::Erm, we're avoiding trivia (and fair use images in non-article spaces :P)—] (]) 04:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


== Calindor's Mystic Title ==
Yes, HOWEVER, his manager's site also states he will NOT respond to any emails relating to Matt, so that has been proven a false e-mail, the fact MAY be true, but as the email is fake, there is no evidence yet. For all we know the team-up will be the finale, highly unlikely, but still quite possible. The trivia should be changed abck to what it was (i.e. the confirmation and the argument against the confirmation. ] 04:18, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


I was wondering as how Daggeron is the Solaris Knight, and Leanbow is the Wolf Warrior(and was the Red Mystic), what was Calindor's Mystic Title? Chris Cobb 10 November 2006
I agree, the trivia should be removed. There is no confirmation yet. There is still chance that the writers worked it into the storyline that the SPD team must help the Mystic Force Rangers defeat one of the Ten Terrors. In any case, the trivia as it is written now isn't true. Zeo was the first season to introduce a team-up. Turbo had no team-up. In Space had somewhat of a team-up when Justin came back, it wasn't a full team-up, but I think it still counts. So, if there truly isn't one this year, it'll make Mystic Force the third (or fourth if "True Blue To The Rescue" is questioned) series to lack one since they were introduced. {{unsigned|Rmssw}}
:He was never given one ^^; He was a student of theirs, so most likely, he was still in training and didn't have "ranger" powers. ] 01:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:Then the trivia will be altered.
Calindor was not mentioned as a student of Leanbow's like Daggeron, but as a trusted ally and old friend. But in the episode with the Bound Battle, he calls out "Ancient Mystic Mode!", just like Daggeron, to turn into his blue and gold form. So, they may not have mentioned it, but he would have to have one. So, does anyone have any idea of who to contact to found out what it would have been? Also, when they show video of their battle in the past, Daggeron turned into a gold energy ball, and Calindor turned into an orange one. Just wondering if anyone else caught that. Chris Cobb 01:22 12 November 2006
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:If you have to call someone in Disney, then its not at all important.—] (]) 01:37, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:It is requested that the final item under trivia concerning a team-up episode be re-written to state the following:
:All these other things seem so important to some people, this is just something I wondered about after seeing the show and wanted to know. So, therefore, it is important to me. Chris Cobb 23:15 12 November 2006
:*There has ben no confirmation as of this writing that shows that ''Mystic Force'' will have a team-up episode with ''S.P.D.''. There has been an email from ]'s publicist, however it has been stated that she would not answer any emails. If there will be no team-up, then ''Mystic Force'' will mark the second time this has happened since the inception of the practice of having team-up episodes in ''Lost Galaxy'' (''Zeo'' had the first team-up with the ], but the season by season practice began in ''PRLG''). The first instance when there was no team-up between Wild Force and Ninja Storm, due to the switch in production companies and filming locations. A possible reason for the lack of a team-up between S.P.D. and Mystic Force comes from the number of episodes planned for Mystic Force (32) when previous seasons had more episodes (38).
::Yes, he was called a student, rewatch the episode (I THINK Gatekeeper, not sure), He SPECIFICALLY calls Leanbow and Daggeron MASTER, indicating he was a student. ] 07:13, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:] 19:54, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Imperious didn't show up until Long Ago. Just sayin' ] 21:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


== Photo request ==
== Imperious as the Lightning Anceint Titan? ==
Surely someone can get a picture of the Power Rangers in action...instead of having to use a wallpaper. ] 01:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:There is that one at ]. Just make another fair use thing for it.—] (]) 02:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
::I could go about capturing a picture of all 8 rangers doing the final pose in Mystic Fate if I get the time ^^; ] 07:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Give me an hour for that :P—] (]) 07:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
::::].—] (]) 07:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Was talking about the one after role call lol, Daggeron is behind the others in that one, only see like 1/4 of his helmet =P ] 04:07, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::Just captured this one: http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8508/untitledca9.png If you'd wanna use it instead, it has all of the rangers visible. ] 02:47, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::Hmm... The one after the rollcall I felt was from Magi. That's why I didn't use it. I'll take a better one.—] (]) 02:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


== Mystic Mother = Rita Repulsa?!?! ==
When you see Legend mode it shows him as a being with lightning Bolt extentions, the same as the garuda. Also it seems he likes to use his Lightning spells more often then the others (Three times instead of just once or twice) and it would fit because dispite not seeing him in the battle, in the English seris it is just a type of power up. Meaning he wasn't the original Yellow Wizard. Just one of the Anceint Titans/ Anceint Mystic Mode of Lightning thing.

:This has been discussed already. The Yellow Ancient Titan and Callindor's Ancient Mystic Mode are two different entities. ] 20:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
I think so. ] 15:47, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
::Here's proof. . . Similar, but clearly not the same. ] 22:48, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
:It's true. If you notice in the scene before the Mystic Mother's appearance, Udonna says "Known as Rita in the dark days." I'm guessing she just retained her magic after Zordon's energy wave turned her to good. I wonder what happened to Zedd then?--] 18:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
==Requested move==
::It's not that important. Yes, both the Mystic Mother and Rita Repulsa's Japanese live action actress is the same person, but Disney/the writers decided to make that connection even greater. What happened to Zedd isn't really that important. It's just another plothole and discontinuity.—] (]) 21:59, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
] → ] – The official title of this series does not utilize a colon, and while some verifiable sources do utilize one, it is the exception, not the rule. ] 01:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
:::The Actress died in RL, I believe it was just a tribute to her, ^^;, which is why she wasn't replaced. ] 02:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
===Survey===

Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>
The "tribute" did more damage to the season that they were thinking, Tribunal of Magic's stature got cut down tremendously, and the Rita angle makes no sense without ellaboration. The only thing we know is that it IS Rita Repulsa after the writer of the episode confirmed that in a PM at Rangerboard with a fairly reliable fandom source ]
* Support, as nominated. ] 01:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
:Or everyone just inferred that Udonna spoke of the only Rita in PR canon.—] (]) 22:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
===Discussion===

Add any additional comments
No, Jackie Machard ''did'' confirm it through communications on Rangerboard ]

:Rangerboard is not a reliable source, even if she had somehow been confirmed to be jackie, anyone could've impersonated her, show us proof. ] 11:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I know that we all want proof, but even '''I''' am inclined to believe that it was really Rita Repulsa. Just putting that out there. - ] 12:07, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

It is common knowledge that Jackie visted the board in 2004 and her account as been active ever since. She hasn't posted since 2004, but her account has still been active nonetheless. I want a million dollars and Britney Spears as a wife, but that doesn't mean I'm going to get it.] 22:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:Oh FFS...
{{cquote|The empress of all good magic, known as '''Rita''' in the dark days...|20px|20px|Mystic Fate I}}
:How much more do you need?—] (]) 22:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::It NEVER says that she was dark, just says that she was known as Rita during the dark AGES, which is a period of time... -.- For all we know, she was good all along :/ ] 13:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:::It doesn't say "Dark Ages", she says "Dark Days", and I seriously doubt that they would be doing any sort of other reference to a Rita inside of PR. Additionally, there's the "You're giving me a headache!" griping connected to Rita Repulsa.—] (]) 19:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

ROFL, no one realized i was just trolling. I knew she was the Mystic Mother. ROFLROFLROFL Fooled Yalll ] 04:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

And BTW, what i think. They used Rita as the former name for Mystic Mother cause they needed another tie in to the other PR series. Piggy appeared in one episode and Mystic Mother...AKA Rita Repulsa appeared in another. Now if they only make a MF/SPD team up...] 04:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

:::::It must a continuity error that Rita Repusla was turned into a ''good''' (meaning not evil) human in ]. ] 01:28, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

== Octomus ==

The Master was never referred to as Octomus in the actual show, please don't change it back. An episode discription on iTunes doesn't mean that was eventually chosen for the character. That could've been an old character bio (which listed the name as Octomus) given to Disney as a sparknotes for the season and they were never given the updated version.] 22:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:He was still referred to as Octomus at some point, and that is given note in his section on the Villains article. As he was never called Octomus in the show, I agree that all mentions of him should be as "The Master".—] (]) 19:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

== Clare ==

Anyways, Something I noticed when overlooking Clare's page. Why isn't she considered a Ranger on wikipedia? Yes, she was based on a heavenly saint in magiranger, but so is Daggeron. She had a normal form, a ranger form (with the robes and staff) and then a zord form (being able to grow big in her ancient mystic mode). Yes, it was only around for 2 episodes, but she fought alongside the rangers during that time, and continued to stay along with them. So why isn't she listed under rangers? This may sound bogus, but think about it, what is different from her and a ranger besides the fact her ranger outfit wasn't skin tight? >.> Leanbow never had a zord, he just grew big like her, he combined with yet another thing that just grew big, which made a sort of zord, so if Clare had combined with something, people would've called her a ranger? o.O, Also, just like Vida's "Everchanging as the wind, Pink Mystic Ranger!", She had "Power of the Shining Moon, Behold, the Gatekeeper!", the only thing she was missing was as stated above a skin tight suit (which makes no sense, as both Koragg and Daggeron didn't have skin tight suits...) and a zord form, which she technically had (The rangers just grew big and changed form like she did <.<) o.O] 17:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:Because she wasn't anything close to a Ranger in Magiranger. Her parallel, Rin/Lunagel, was just another character in Magiranger that had magical powers, and she only used them for a few episodes. She is not really a Ranger, which is why she has a listing under ] as a Ranger-like ally along with characters such as the Blue Senturion and the original Magna Defender. If they had kept her around for a few more episodes, in either nation, then she would probably be considered a Ranger.—] (]) 18:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::What about Kat from SPD? She was there for 1 Episode, she never did anything besides morph, she never had a zord, yet people consider her a ranger because her name was Kat Ranger. Clare was the Shining Moon WARRIOR, while Leanbow is the Wolf WARRIOR, I just find it odd... She's Daggerons opposite in element lol. Just because Rin wasn't a ranger, Clare can't be considered one? I thought as you've stated multiple times around here, that PR is not entirely related to sentai, and just because it's one thing in sentai, doesn't automatically make it true in PR <.< Also, wouldn't Leanbow and Kat be under Ranger like allies instead of rangers, as they were there for 2(He wasn't morphed the entire time in Mystic Fate 1) and 1 episodes, respectively, and neither showed actual zord useage, as Leanbow only used his as Koragg. ] 02:20, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

:No, Kat is a Ranger, as she was issued her Ranger Powers by SPD, Leanbow has a Mystic Morpher and his armor is designed to resemble the other Mystic Rangers. Both have morphed using Ranger morph-phrases. Clare just got a hood and a wand, she had no Ranger gear (helmet, costume, armor, or morpher) while Kat and Leanbow do. Aside from becoming a giant harem-girl, there is nothing remotely Ranger-like about Clare. ] 02:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

::Exactly how does Leanbow's armor remotely resemble spandex suits? >.> Clare had a tiara, robes, a form that was armored, and her tiara acted as a morpher. Leanbow is no more a ranger then Clare, if you give me an actual reason why, then I'll stop, yes, he did Role Call with them, but if Clare still had her powers, she probably would've too... ] 16:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Not having a skin tight suit really has nothing to do with it. That point is now moot. The Ancient Rangers of Animaria had nothing similar to a skin tight suit. Another point is moot. Clare's counterpart not being considered a ranger has no correlation to Power Rangers as they are two seperate series. Wow, three points are now invalid. Now does that make Clare a ranger? Well the definition of what a ranger is is sketchy that it's all based on personal opinion. This same question could be applied to the Blue Senturion, Magna Defender, Morgana, Daggeron, and Leanbow. However, the logic would tell you she's not a ranger. Masked Rider could be considered a ranger before Clare could be.] 21:56, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Leanbow's armor does resemble the Mystic force rangers suits, they have M's on their suits, he has a W on his armor, they have helmets with a black visor resmbling their mystic morpher symbol outlined in gold, Leanbow has a helmet with with a visor resembling his mystic morpher symbol outlined in gold. Even if Clare had her powers, she wouldn't have roll-called in the final episode because Lunagiel (the sentai character Clare's Moon Warrior form is based on) did not appear in the Japanese footage used for the final fight scene. And the biggest point, Clare has no helmet. Every Ranger in history has worn a helmet that concealed the person's face. No helmet, no ranger. That simple. ] 01:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

There's been rangers, as I have said, in the past who were not the "modern" definition of what a ranger is. Just because Clare's counterpart wasn't in the footage doesn't mean anything. There was a lot of altered or new footage for that same episode. Unless Japan all of the sudden has a lot of non-Asian actors in their footage all of the sudden.] 02:37, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Clare is not a Ranger because she is merely a sorceress with the power to attain an Ancient Mystic Mode, much like Callindor could. Just because she assisted the Rangers and has an Ancient Mystic Mode along with Daggeron and Leanbow does not make her a Ranger. She is an ally to the Rangers, but not a Ranger herself. If Disney had kept the Heavenly Saints storyline, this probably would have made a lot more sense, but bear with us when we say that she is logically not a Ranger, Myzou.—] (]) 05:17, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

== Peta Rutter ==

How anyone say that Peta Rutter is the oldest Power Rangers actress when her birthdate isn't known?] 14:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
:Her birthday is known, please just look it up =D, just because wiki doesn't have it, doesn't mean people don't know it o.o;; ] 17:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Ah, I stand corrected. Though the exact date isn't known. Even those this wiki says female, she isn't the oldest person ever to portray a ranger. That honor goes to one of the actors of the Alien Rangers, who is currently 49.] 06:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, but that would mean that the actor was under 39 when he/she first played a Ranger. Peta Rutter would still be the oldest, if her age was known, exactly.—] (]) 06:49, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

== the spelling of Lienbow/Leanbow/Alianbow ==

I usually have captions on when watching TV and i watched a fairly new episode of Mystic Force and then Lianbow's name was said the caption read "Alianbow" I dont know if it was a mistake by the Caption company or whatever but every time someone spoke the name Lianbow the caption read "Alianbow."] 17:33, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
:It was shown in the credits as Leanbow =D Sometimes captions are wrong ^.~ ] 17:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Even in the TV show its pronounced as "Alianbow", especially in episodes 31 and 31 ] 16 January 2013
::Christ why are you rehashing an argument from 6 years ago. '''The end credits have the character listed as "Leanbow".''' has him listed as "Leanbow". You are wrong.—] (]) 11:42, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

== Recent Reformatting ==

Ok, normally I agree with you Ryu, but, just curious, why did you reformat it to look like that? There is a main article for the rangers, which explains the stuff they enjoy and a little background about them, which makes that not necessary, not to mention you only changed certain ranger teams, so it's completely outta synch with articles like Lost Galaxy. ] 17:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
:The tables are getting cumbersome and unencyclopedic. It's a reformat that's really needed, if we even want to think that these articles will get good or featured. The tables had to go. You can rework the short blurbs (this is mainly a retaliation against a user putting a table at a Sentai article for no good reason).—] (]) 21:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
::Will you at least do it for more then the current 3 seasons? :/ Only SPD, Mystic Force, and Overdrive have been changed, however, the new format won't work for seasons like MMPR, Turbo, and Lost Galaxy, as they had replacements. :/ ] 00:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
:::I have done MMPR, MMAR, and Zeo. It's a slow process, that ]. I've been bugging others to help out, but they're not being all that helpful.—] (]) 00:25, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
::::I did what I could on ], hopefully it's what was wanted ^^;, The text needs help, but the main reformatting is there. If that's right, I'll try other seasons =P ] 06:06, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

==DVD==
I think guides as to which episodes of all these series have appeared on DVD would be a good addition. Since Disney isn't likely to release full season sets anytime soon, this information would be both interesting and helpful. --] 23:36, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

== Magiranger similarities ==

Seeing as I don't know the full story of this I won't write anything in the article, but I recall reading that Disney got in a lot of trouble for following Dekaranger's plot too closely in a few episodes of SPD. On the other hand, they fully collaborated with Toei making Magiranger and this, so some of the episodes were dead similar (Stranger Within being most notable). Does anyone think any of this deserves a mention in the article? ] (]) 16:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:If you have a source that shows this, other than just watching the two episode side-by-side.—] (]) 23:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

== Year of PRMF?? ==

In what year is PRMF set?? Looking at the settings, scenary, and the fact that magic is the core base of this series, I believe it must be set in the late 20th century. The actors who portray the teenage rangers are infact 20-somethings in real life (except Angie Diaz, I think). Also can someone please explain as to why SPD was the earlier season than MF despite the fact that SPD is set way into the future? Infact shouldn't MF have been the very first season in the Power Rangers because the machinery and zords are too old and the uniforms (non-morphed and morphed) look a lot old-fashioned than in the previous seasons?
Thanks] (]) 08:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)div123
:This is more of a question for a fan forum, as this page is intended for discussion of the content of the article and not its subject, but I will try to explain some aspects.
:It is generally taken that Power Ranger series are set in the year that they air, unless otherwise noted in the show itself. SPD is the earlier series because it was '''broadcast''' before Mystic Force began, but SPD was ''']''' in the year 2025, while no year was stated for Mystic Force and it is assumed that the events in SPD occur after those in MF (Piggy in Briarwood and saying stuff that he will do as an alien). Series/seasons are not ordered by their internal fictional timelines, but their real world timelines. That's why it's MMPR, Zeo, Turbo, ... SPD, MF, OO, and next year's Jungle Fury. Also, it is easier to get actors who are older than the parts they portray, because of child labor laws throughout the world, and ways that the production company will have to comply.
:To boil it down, Dino Thunder was set in 2004, SPD was set in 2025, and Mystic Force was set in 2006. However, the only show that did not match its broadcast year was SPD, because it was decided that the show would be set in the future with all the aliens and whatnot.—] (]) 08:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

== Uh... ==

When did we start putting "counterpart to" in Power Ranger articles? On top of that, wasn't Octomus just a toy name, I don't recall them ever calling him Octomus in the actual show. Last time I checked, Toys produced by a secondary company do not qualify as reliable sources for Wiki. ] (]) 20:09, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

== Unncessary linebreaks, links to non-existent articles ==

An IP user keeps adding inappropriate line breaks, for example , and . There's simply no need for this and in the third example the user removes a complete sentence in favor of a fragment. The changes are not consistent with ] or normal standards of English, and we don't have enough information to warrant a line break. Further, the user hasn't explained their edits or opened a discussion, as would be their requirement per ]. Proposing the removal of this formatting. Also, the user keeps adding redlinks to the article, which we shouldn't be doing, per ]. ] (]) 19:24, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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TV.com as a reliable source

I have had a change negated again, stating that TV.com is not a reliable source. This is the exact quote from the editing page for the Mystic Force episode area:

"If there are episodes added here that are not listed on TV.com's page, they will be deleted and you will be warned for deliberately introducing false information into this article.

Main article: List of Power Rangers: Mystic Force episodes

"

This specifically states that TV.com is a reliable source for corroboration of an episode's status. Unless the admin changes that wording, my change can stand and should not be altered as that change itself should be considered vandalism.

Thank you.

The problem with using TV.com as a reliable source is that the three main people who have control over that article, and who put up the episode titles (and one of which is the one who got those titles through their press connections in the first place) rose a GIGANTIC stink here and on various PR message boards when we claimed the Operation Overdrive logo wasn't fair to use since it didn't have a reliable source. You can read the bulk of those discussions on the OO Talk page. The episode page for MF saying that should have been changed immediately after that discussion fully ended, and why it wasn't, I'll never know. Arrow 19:11, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Exactly. It's better to use TV Guide (which is rarely wrong) and the television commercials to gauge when a new episode airs. Right now, we don't know anything about the airdate of episode 30 from a source that isn't someone who has press connections. Ryūlóng 21:15, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
My point is that this wikipedia page specifically stated that TV.com was a source to be relied upon as episode verification. That is until that statement was removed by Ryulong.Me 22:39, 4 October 2006 (CST)
And we had decided it was wrong and never had the chance to change it until you brought it to our attention. Please stop being disruptive about this. Ryūlóng 04:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

YYYY-MM-DD?

Why on earth is this page using such a format? In the interests of catering to our internationl readers, I always prefer to write out the entire date instead of getting into edit wars and confusion over the numerical DD-MM or MM-DD format (like if it's supposed to be March 2 or February 3). Today, however, that edit was blindly reverted (even though I had done other work, such as proseifying the damn trivia section), so I'm wondering about it. Hbdragon88 06:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

m:Dynamic dates Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and when you rewrote the trivia section you accidentally blanked several other sections in the process. Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, that was strange. I guess it probably happened when I was moving the section up to be just under the synposis. Hbdragon88 08:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Koragg/Leanbow/Defender blah

Let's wait for this episode to air before we start putting Leanbow all over the Ranger sections and removing him from the allies sections, okay? —Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, although the promo specifically shows him morphing :/ http://youtube.com/watch?v=7QgNpFrCu_I is a link to the promo =P Myzou 05:49, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Whether or not the promo shows Leanbow morphing is not the issue. The fact is that it hasn't occured in the show, yet, and we don't know any sort of information relating to this "news". How long will it be until the ep airs, anyway? A week? Two weeks? The wiki'll be fine for another week without information that plasters Mr Leanbow all over these pages :P —Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Episode Airdates

Sorry, can't really explain what I mean in the small area they give. The Promo for the finale stated that it would take a week starting November 6th to tell it all. Now, The Return MUST air on the 30th of October, as if the marathon starts the 6th, then chances are, it will start with the first episode again, not with a new episode. Which leaves the only open monday (as said in "The Return" Promo), the 30th., Mystic Fate may in fact air on the 13th, but as the promo said the 6th, should be put there until jetix confirms or denies it as the start of the marathon, or the airdate of the finale. If the 30th, The return does not appear, it will be changed to November 6th, as it could possibly air along with the finale, which, if the finale is confirmed to be at the end of the marathon (if there is one, and not just the finale), the date will be changed to the 13th, which would be the next logical point. Hopefully you all understand what I just wrote LOL. (Ryulong, not violating what you said, but Jetix itself released the promos, until proven false by airing on TV, we have to keep it posted, as Jetix has made a major amount of mistakes on their website before, i.e. when they post the wrong episodes, or when they posted an episode for an hour, then it was broken for like 3 days.) Myzou 23:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

New 30 sec promo confirmed the 6th is the start of the marathon and what exactly it is, and stated week long, therefore, the finale is to air on the 13th. Promo can be found here soon, as soon as it's done processing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsVmBIip4UA Myzou 04:51, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Still no CONFIRMED date for The Return, but as the promo stated Monday, once monday rolls by, if it isn't then, then the date can be changed to the 6th of November, otherwise, its much more likely there was a website error then a TV Promo being aired multiple times error =P Myzou 04:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Was Right for once xD Yay! :D Still gotta wait an hour for it to air here though -.- Myzou 03:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Power Ranger ethnicity

The team also does not feature a Black Power Ranger, a trend started in Ninja Storm.

I've removed this pending clarification: edit summaries aren't a great way to communicate. For one thing, if we're just saying "black" then doesn't the Red Ranger from Ninja Storm qualify? I can't find anything on ethnicity for Brandon Jay McLaren, who plays Jack in S.P.D. Hbdragon88 04:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Shane is Samoan ^^;, Jack is African American, it is the Black ranger that hasn't been in since Ninja Storm, the color, not the ethnicity xD Myzou 04:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
So then it should be decapitalized. Hbdragon88 05:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, for some reason, the color of the ranger tends to be capitalized, while ethnicity is decapitalized (makes no sense, but thats how it is in article)
Tommy Oliver?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 09:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Because it refers to a specific ranger. White and black do not refer to a specific ethnicity; Caucasian, African-American, Asian, Filipino, etc. all do. Hbdragon88 04:15, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Tommy was the Black Dino Ranger in Dino Thunder, which was after Ninja Storm. The sentence is false.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Recent Vandal

Sorry, just gotta ask, I just recently realized that the vandalizism of adding "Deltora Warrior" to the page is coming from multiple IPs... I'm not tech savvy so yea, which is why I'm askin =P If in the future he continues to vandalize it witht he same things, is it even possible to block him since he is using multiple IPs? :/ Myzou 23:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

It depends. I'll look into it if he starts up again tomorrow.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:22, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Problem solved for the Deltora Warrior and the episode dates.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Necrolai/Itassus/Matoombo

Posting here in case anyone doesn't like this, as without them, the rangers would've lost (not really matoombo, but was shown at end with vida), I believe they deserve to be in the allies. Also, is it safe to assume the tribunal turned Necrolai into the queen vampire, based on "We did what we had to do" from Dark Wish, after possible seeing the future and knowing what she would have to do? Myzou 22:05, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes on the Terrors, no on Necrolai.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Confused myself xD, So yes on those 2 terrors being in allies, but no to necrolai being there, or no to the necrolai and tribunal thing? =P Myzou 06:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
No on the tribunal, and after more thought, it'd probably be be best to leave all the characters where they are, and merely mention they have joined the other side.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
If you did that, wouldn't you have to move Leelee and the others who changed back too? :/ To keep with continuity, as She was evil at first, but then became an ally, just like Necrolai, Matoombo, and Itassus? Myzou 08:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Leelee switched sides earlier. Necrolai, Matoombo, and Itassus were all in the finale, more or less.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Still, They ended up being good just like Leelee, why would they still be labeled as Villains? :/ Myzou 19:58, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Just to clarify, Matoombo was good before, as well as Itassus, yes Necrolai was only shown to be good for 2 episodes, but we know she has been contemplating things (based on her actions towards Sculpin and such.), not to mention Leanbow was only a ranger 3 episodes, so how is 3 episodes so much bigger then 2? ^^; I understand you didnt change it, just clarifying my point. If Necrolai is moved to Villains, Leanbow should be moved to allies ^^; Myzou 00:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry about not replying here. All three were evil until the finale, as they all were in Magiranger with similar lengths. Leanbow's transformation into a Ranger is a much more drastic change than becoming good at the last possible moment. The same characters are listed in these various positions in the articles for their Japanese counterparts. Isamu/Wolzard has entries under the Ozu Family and Infershia. Vancuria/Nai & Mea has an entry under Infershia only. Sphinx and Titan have entries under Infershia Pantheon only. Kat was only a Ranger for a single episode, and she also has her own entries as a Ranger (and an ally).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:55, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
"Leanbow's transformation into a Ranger is a much more drastic change than becoming good at the last possible moment." Sorry, but since when was Necrolai considering settling down with Leelee in Briarwood about 20 episodes back not the beginning of something? Matoombo and Itassus were both good beforehand, which is why theyre in both, but Necrolai should be in allies. Cause as I stated before, she was showing signs of turning good WAY before the finale, people just didn't notice it. (Watch some of the older episodes, and watch her reactions to some of the orders the terrors give her.) Myzou 07:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I know some of this, but all of the characters are generally thought of as belonging to the single allliance that they were with most. Necrolai was with the villains for the longest time, and Itassus and Matoombo are both part of the Ten Terrors, all of which are villains. It can be mentioned that they switch sides in their respective mentions at their articles, like it is done for Magiranger (if it were possible, we could rename the Villains article so that its side neutralish, but they didn't have a name).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:25, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Gotta ask, name one act of evil that Matoombo commited against the RANGERS (Leanbow was Koragg at the time he attacked him, that would constitute him being under the villains, same with Itassus, when both were asked to stop attacking they did (Yes, they convinced Itassus because she was a puppet, but still, she was asked and she stopped, not to mention without her, Nick and Vida would've been destroyed by Serpentina a few episodes back.) Why not move Nikki Pimvare to allies and leave Necrolai in villains as a compromise? Myzou 07:28, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I have not had the chance to see the episodes before the finale (I did see Mystic Fate, though). What we could use right now is some sort of unifying name for the villains of PRMF, but there was none. Similar to Infershia, which covers all side switching that existed in Magi. And there is not much that can be said about Nikki other than "Necrolai called herself this after she lost her powers and became human" I would think. It would probably be possible to give Necrolai her own article (she has enough biographical information and whatnot) and then mention there about her side switching and all of that, yet keeping her in both the villain and character categories. There is a similar discussion at Talk:Koragg the Knight Wolf about his page's status and why it remains as it is.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:34, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Unless I'm mistaken, they've said Underworld minions and servants multiple times, and isn't Underworld pretty much the same thing as Infershia (when talking about groups) Myzou 07:37, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I mean a canon name. They were never given one.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:42, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Still, I think that they should somehow be related to the allies section, if not really in there, their descriptions really don't point towards that. & about the necrolai article, I would do that, but I still don't know how to make wiki pages o.o;; (I'm an idiot like that xD) Myzou 01:00, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Just so you know, that wasn't me who edited it in, so obviously there are others who feel the way I do o.o; Myzou 04:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Magical Beings List

I was thinking of adding a section to the main PR: Mystic Force article showing a list of the various Magical and Mythical Beings and Creatures that are shown and mentioned in this show. There was a similar section in the article concerning one of my other favorite tv shows: American Dragon: Jake Long although the section began to grow and expand so much that it was eventually made into a seperate article on its own. I would like to know what everyone's opinions on this are Unknown Dragon 00:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, how many magical beings do we have?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:48, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

There are quite a few, Trolls, Goblins, (Troblins) Dragons, Fairies, Titans (The Ancient and Mystic Titans and Matoombo), etc... Here's the main article that gave me the idea: List of magical creatures and characters in American Dragon: Jake Long, I was thinking of doing something similar, only on a smaller scale. So what does everyone think of this? Unknown Dragon 01:48, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Ugh... That's because Jake Long is supposed to be like that. I don't think it's necessary to have such a list for this article, as it's not the focus of the series.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Spelling

I was just wondering about the spelling of "Leanbow." The closed captions always have it as "Alianbow." I was just curious about which is canon.

In the credits at the end, his name was spelled as "Leanbow." Closed captioning had "Alianbow" and when you hear it, it's hard to figure out how it is spelt. We are going by the end credits spelling.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:08, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Udonna's helmet

I was watching the Mystic Force marathon, and noticed that Udonna's White Ranger helmet is a modified version of Maddie's Mystic Mermaid head. Would this be considered Trivia? Qilinmon 02:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Pretty sure it isn't, the White Ranger was in Magiranger long before Legend Mode, so pretty sure it was the opposite somewhat ^^; Myzou 02:45, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

No, I was referring to Maddie's Zord Form, seen below with white ranger, their helmets are the same.

180px|left|thumb|White ranger and Mystic mermaid sport matching helmets

Sorry bout that, by Mystic Mermaid I assumed Legend Mode (too much magiranger FTW!), but, if you notice, the top is less pointed, the eyes arent merged, and a couple other differences ^^; (which of course, just proves they aren't identical), however, I believe this is actually the first time a ranger and a zord do own a modified version of the same helmet, so feel free to add it (Unless Ryulong says no o.o;;):) Myzou 00:11, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Erm, we're avoiding trivia (and fair use images in non-article spaces :P)—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Calindor's Mystic Title

I was wondering as how Daggeron is the Solaris Knight, and Leanbow is the Wolf Warrior(and was the Red Mystic), what was Calindor's Mystic Title? Chris Cobb 10 November 2006

He was never given one ^^; He was a student of theirs, so most likely, he was still in training and didn't have "ranger" powers. Myzou 01:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Calindor was not mentioned as a student of Leanbow's like Daggeron, but as a trusted ally and old friend. But in the episode with the Bound Battle, he calls out "Ancient Mystic Mode!", just like Daggeron, to turn into his blue and gold form. So, they may not have mentioned it, but he would have to have one. So, does anyone have any idea of who to contact to found out what it would have been? Also, when they show video of their battle in the past, Daggeron turned into a gold energy ball, and Calindor turned into an orange one. Just wondering if anyone else caught that. Chris Cobb 01:22 12 November 2006

If you have to call someone in Disney, then its not at all important.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:37, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
All these other things seem so important to some people, this is just something I wondered about after seeing the show and wanted to know. So, therefore, it is important to me. Chris Cobb 23:15 12 November 2006
Yes, he was called a student, rewatch the episode (I THINK Gatekeeper, not sure), He SPECIFICALLY calls Leanbow and Daggeron MASTER, indicating he was a student. Myzou 07:13, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Imperious didn't show up until Long Ago. Just sayin' Grz 21:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Photo request

Surely someone can get a picture of the Power Rangers in action...instead of having to use a wallpaper. Hbdragon88 01:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

There is that one at Mystic Force Power Rangers. Just make another fair use thing for it.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I could go about capturing a picture of all 8 rangers doing the final pose in Mystic Fate if I get the time ^^; Myzou 07:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Give me an hour for that :P—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Done.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Was talking about the one after role call lol, Daggeron is behind the others in that one, only see like 1/4 of his helmet =P Myzou 04:07, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Just captured this one: http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8508/untitledca9.png If you'd wanna use it instead, it has all of the rangers visible. Myzou 02:47, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Hmm... The one after the rollcall I felt was from Magi. That's why I didn't use it. I'll take a better one.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Mystic Mother = Rita Repulsa?!?!

I think so. IamCool316 15:47, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

It's true. If you notice in the scene before the Mystic Mother's appearance, Udonna says "Known as Rita in the dark days." I'm guessing she just retained her magic after Zordon's energy wave turned her to good. I wonder what happened to Zedd then?--WarriorofZarona 18:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
It's not that important. Yes, both the Mystic Mother and Rita Repulsa's Japanese live action actress is the same person, but Disney/the writers decided to make that connection even greater. What happened to Zedd isn't really that important. It's just another plothole and discontinuity.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:59, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
The Actress died in RL, I believe it was just a tribute to her, ^^;, which is why she wasn't replaced. Myzou 02:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

The "tribute" did more damage to the season that they were thinking, Tribunal of Magic's stature got cut down tremendously, and the Rita angle makes no sense without ellaboration. The only thing we know is that it IS Rita Repulsa after the writer of the episode confirmed that in a PM at Rangerboard with a fairly reliable fandom source Dr. R.K.Z

Or everyone just inferred that Udonna spoke of the only Rita in PR canon.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

No, Jackie Machard did confirm it through communications on Rangerboard Dr. R.K.Z

Rangerboard is not a reliable source, even if she had somehow been confirmed to be jackie, anyone could've impersonated her, show us proof. Myzou 11:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I know that we all want proof, but even I am inclined to believe that it was really Rita Repulsa. Just putting that out there. - DrachenFyre > YOU! 12:07, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

It is common knowledge that Jackie visted the board in 2004 and her account as been active ever since. She hasn't posted since 2004, but her account has still been active nonetheless. I want a million dollars and Britney Spears as a wife, but that doesn't mean I'm going to get it.RangerKing 22:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh FFS...
“ The empress of all good magic, known as Rita in the dark days... ”
— Mystic Fate I
How much more do you need?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
It NEVER says that she was dark, just says that she was known as Rita during the dark AGES, which is a period of time... -.- For all we know, she was good all along :/ Myzou 13:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
It doesn't say "Dark Ages", she says "Dark Days", and I seriously doubt that they would be doing any sort of other reference to a Rita inside of PR. Additionally, there's the "You're giving me a headache!" griping connected to Rita Repulsa.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

ROFL, no one realized i was just trolling. I knew she was the Mystic Mother. ROFLROFLROFL Fooled Yalll IamCool316 04:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

And BTW, what i think. They used Rita as the former name for Mystic Mother cause they needed another tie in to the other PR series. Piggy appeared in one episode and Mystic Mother...AKA Rita Repulsa appeared in another. Now if they only make a MF/SPD team up...IamCool316 04:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

It must a continuity error that Rita Repusla was turned into a good' (meaning not evil) human in Countdown to Destruction. 216.54.173.253 01:28, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Octomus

The Master was never referred to as Octomus in the actual show, please don't change it back. An episode discription on iTunes doesn't mean that was eventually chosen for the character. That could've been an old character bio (which listed the name as Octomus) given to Disney as a sparknotes for the season and they were never given the updated version.RangerKing 22:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

He was still referred to as Octomus at some point, and that is given note in his section on the Villains article. As he was never called Octomus in the show, I agree that all mentions of him should be as "The Master".—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Clare

Anyways, Something I noticed when overlooking Clare's page. Why isn't she considered a Ranger on wikipedia? Yes, she was based on a heavenly saint in magiranger, but so is Daggeron. She had a normal form, a ranger form (with the robes and staff) and then a zord form (being able to grow big in her ancient mystic mode). Yes, it was only around for 2 episodes, but she fought alongside the rangers during that time, and continued to stay along with them. So why isn't she listed under rangers? This may sound bogus, but think about it, what is different from her and a ranger besides the fact her ranger outfit wasn't skin tight? >.> Leanbow never had a zord, he just grew big like her, he combined with yet another thing that just grew big, which made a sort of zord, so if Clare had combined with something, people would've called her a ranger? o.O, Also, just like Vida's "Everchanging as the wind, Pink Mystic Ranger!", She had "Power of the Shining Moon, Behold, the Gatekeeper!", the only thing she was missing was as stated above a skin tight suit (which makes no sense, as both Koragg and Daggeron didn't have skin tight suits...) and a zord form, which she technically had (The rangers just grew big and changed form like she did <.<) o.OMyzou 17:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Because she wasn't anything close to a Ranger in Magiranger. Her parallel, Rin/Lunagel, was just another character in Magiranger that had magical powers, and she only used them for a few episodes. She is not really a Ranger, which is why she has a listing under Other Rangers and Ranger-like allies as a Ranger-like ally along with characters such as the Blue Senturion and the original Magna Defender. If they had kept her around for a few more episodes, in either nation, then she would probably be considered a Ranger.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 18:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
What about Kat from SPD? She was there for 1 Episode, she never did anything besides morph, she never had a zord, yet people consider her a ranger because her name was Kat Ranger. Clare was the Shining Moon WARRIOR, while Leanbow is the Wolf WARRIOR, I just find it odd... She's Daggerons opposite in element lol. Just because Rin wasn't a ranger, Clare can't be considered one? I thought as you've stated multiple times around here, that PR is not entirely related to sentai, and just because it's one thing in sentai, doesn't automatically make it true in PR <.< Also, wouldn't Leanbow and Kat be under Ranger like allies instead of rangers, as they were there for 2(He wasn't morphed the entire time in Mystic Fate 1) and 1 episodes, respectively, and neither showed actual zord useage, as Leanbow only used his as Koragg. Myzou 02:20, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
No, Kat is a Ranger, as she was issued her Ranger Powers by SPD, Leanbow has a Mystic Morpher and his armor is designed to resemble the other Mystic Rangers. Both have morphed using Ranger morph-phrases. Clare just got a hood and a wand, she had no Ranger gear (helmet, costume, armor, or morpher) while Kat and Leanbow do. Aside from becoming a giant harem-girl, there is nothing remotely Ranger-like about Clare. NeoCoronis 02:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Exactly how does Leanbow's armor remotely resemble spandex suits? >.> Clare had a tiara, robes, a form that was armored, and her tiara acted as a morpher. Leanbow is no more a ranger then Clare, if you give me an actual reason why, then I'll stop, yes, he did Role Call with them, but if Clare still had her powers, she probably would've too... Myzou 16:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Not having a skin tight suit really has nothing to do with it. That point is now moot. The Ancient Rangers of Animaria had nothing similar to a skin tight suit. Another point is moot. Clare's counterpart not being considered a ranger has no correlation to Power Rangers as they are two seperate series. Wow, three points are now invalid. Now does that make Clare a ranger? Well the definition of what a ranger is is sketchy that it's all based on personal opinion. This same question could be applied to the Blue Senturion, Magna Defender, Morgana, Daggeron, and Leanbow. However, the logic would tell you she's not a ranger. Masked Rider could be considered a ranger before Clare could be.RangerKing 21:56, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Leanbow's armor does resemble the Mystic force rangers suits, they have M's on their suits, he has a W on his armor, they have helmets with a black visor resmbling their mystic morpher symbol outlined in gold, Leanbow has a helmet with with a visor resembling his mystic morpher symbol outlined in gold. Even if Clare had her powers, she wouldn't have roll-called in the final episode because Lunagiel (the sentai character Clare's Moon Warrior form is based on) did not appear in the Japanese footage used for the final fight scene. And the biggest point, Clare has no helmet. Every Ranger in history has worn a helmet that concealed the person's face. No helmet, no ranger. That simple. NeoCoronis 01:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

There's been rangers, as I have said, in the past who were not the "modern" definition of what a ranger is. Just because Clare's counterpart wasn't in the footage doesn't mean anything. There was a lot of altered or new footage for that same episode. Unless Japan all of the sudden has a lot of non-Asian actors in their footage all of the sudden.RangerKing 02:37, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Clare is not a Ranger because she is merely a sorceress with the power to attain an Ancient Mystic Mode, much like Callindor could. Just because she assisted the Rangers and has an Ancient Mystic Mode along with Daggeron and Leanbow does not make her a Ranger. She is an ally to the Rangers, but not a Ranger herself. If Disney had kept the Heavenly Saints storyline, this probably would have made a lot more sense, but bear with us when we say that she is logically not a Ranger, Myzou.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:17, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Peta Rutter

How anyone say that Peta Rutter is the oldest Power Rangers actress when her birthdate isn't known?RangerKing 14:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Her birthday is known, please just look it up =D, just because wiki doesn't have it, doesn't mean people don't know it o.o;; Myzou 17:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I stand corrected. Though the exact date isn't known. Even those this wiki says female, she isn't the oldest person ever to portray a ranger. That honor goes to one of the actors of the Alien Rangers, who is currently 49.RangerKing 06:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but that would mean that the actor was under 39 when he/she first played a Ranger. Peta Rutter would still be the oldest, if her age was known, exactly.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 06:49, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

the spelling of Lienbow/Leanbow/Alianbow

I usually have captions on when watching TV and i watched a fairly new episode of Mystic Force and then Lianbow's name was said the caption read "Alianbow" I dont know if it was a mistake by the Caption company or whatever but every time someone spoke the name Lianbow the caption read "Alianbow."IamCool316 17:33, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

It was shown in the credits as Leanbow =D Sometimes captions are wrong ^.~ Myzou 17:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Even in the TV show its pronounced as "Alianbow", especially in episodes 31 and 31 Wisemanshade 16 January 2013

Christ why are you rehashing an argument from 6 years ago. The end credits have the character listed as "Leanbow". IMDB has him listed as "Leanbow". You are wrong.—Ryulong (琉竜) 11:42, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Recent Reformatting

Ok, normally I agree with you Ryu, but, just curious, why did you reformat it to look like that? There is a main article for the rangers, which explains the stuff they enjoy and a little background about them, which makes that not necessary, not to mention you only changed certain ranger teams, so it's completely outta synch with articles like Lost Galaxy. Myzou 17:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

The tables are getting cumbersome and unencyclopedic. It's a reformat that's really needed, if we even want to think that these articles will get good or featured. The tables had to go. You can rework the short blurbs (this is mainly a retaliation against a user putting a table at a Sentai article for no good reason).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Will you at least do it for more then the current 3 seasons? :/ Only SPD, Mystic Force, and Overdrive have been changed, however, the new format won't work for seasons like MMPR, Turbo, and Lost Galaxy, as they had replacements. :/ Myzou 00:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I have done MMPR, MMAR, and Zeo. It's a slow process, that you too can help with. I've been bugging others to help out, but they're not being all that helpful.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:25, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I did what I could on Power Rangers: Lost Galaxy, hopefully it's what was wanted ^^;, The text needs help, but the main reformatting is there. If that's right, I'll try other seasons =P Myzou 06:06, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

DVD

I think guides as to which episodes of all these series have appeared on DVD would be a good addition. Since Disney isn't likely to release full season sets anytime soon, this information would be both interesting and helpful. --CmdrClow 23:36, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Magiranger similarities

Seeing as I don't know the full story of this I won't write anything in the article, but I recall reading that Disney got in a lot of trouble for following Dekaranger's plot too closely in a few episodes of SPD. On the other hand, they fully collaborated with Toei making Magiranger and this, so some of the episodes were dead similar (Stranger Within being most notable). Does anyone think any of this deserves a mention in the article? ReloadPsi (talk) 16:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

If you have a source that shows this, other than just watching the two episode side-by-side.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Year of PRMF??

In what year is PRMF set?? Looking at the settings, scenary, and the fact that magic is the core base of this series, I believe it must be set in the late 20th century. The actors who portray the teenage rangers are infact 20-somethings in real life (except Angie Diaz, I think). Also can someone please explain as to why SPD was the earlier season than MF despite the fact that SPD is set way into the future? Infact shouldn't MF have been the very first season in the Power Rangers because the machinery and zords are too old and the uniforms (non-morphed and morphed) look a lot old-fashioned than in the previous seasons? Thanks59.184.133.17 (talk) 08:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)div123

This is more of a question for a fan forum, as this page is intended for discussion of the content of the article and not its subject, but I will try to explain some aspects.
It is generally taken that Power Ranger series are set in the year that they air, unless otherwise noted in the show itself. SPD is the earlier series because it was broadcast before Mystic Force began, but SPD was set in the year 2025, while no year was stated for Mystic Force and it is assumed that the events in SPD occur after those in MF (Piggy in Briarwood and saying stuff that he will do as an alien). Series/seasons are not ordered by their internal fictional timelines, but their real world timelines. That's why it's MMPR, Zeo, Turbo, ... SPD, MF, OO, and next year's Jungle Fury. Also, it is easier to get actors who are older than the parts they portray, because of child labor laws throughout the world, and ways that the production company will have to comply.
To boil it down, Dino Thunder was set in 2004, SPD was set in 2025, and Mystic Force was set in 2006. However, the only show that did not match its broadcast year was SPD, because it was decided that the show would be set in the future with all the aliens and whatnot.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 08:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Uh...

When did we start putting "counterpart to" in Power Ranger articles? On top of that, wasn't Octomus just a toy name, I don't recall them ever calling him Octomus in the actual show. Last time I checked, Toys produced by a secondary company do not qualify as reliable sources for Wiki. Myzou (talk) 20:09, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Unncessary linebreaks, links to non-existent articles

An IP user keeps adding inappropriate line breaks, for example here, here and here. There's simply no need for this and in the third example the user removes a complete sentence in favor of a fragment. The changes are not consistent with MOS:TV#Cast or normal standards of English, and we don't have enough information to warrant a line break. Further, the user hasn't explained their edits or opened a discussion, as would be their requirement per WP:BRD. Proposing the removal of this formatting. Also, the user keeps adding redlinks to the article, which we shouldn't be doing, per WP:REDNOT. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:24, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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