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India's population is 1,457,248,665 as of Friday, December 27, 2024 Abdulmuqtaddirkhan (talk) 10:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Worldometer is unreliable. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 10:20, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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1. 2024, India Population. "India Population 2024". morldometer. worldometer. Retrieved 27 December 2024. {{cite web}}: |last1= has numeric name (help)

Reordering sentence in the lead

Minor edit suggestion: Currently the lead reads "It is the seventh-largest country in the world by area and the most populous country.". The latter fact seems by far the more notable of the two, so you'd think "It is the most populous country in the world and the seventh-largest by area" would be a more sensible phrasing. IRN-Dumas (talk) 17:56, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

I support this. The current sentence framing has stayed the same since before India surpassed China in terms of population. I think its due for a change now EarthDude (talk) 19:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

I support this aswell. ĀDITYA 20:07, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Support expressed by two editors is not consensus. Please don't change the order. Please see WP:COUNTRYLEAD Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

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2409:4073:115:4FCD:0:0:BBF:48AC (talk) 18:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Just change the language of "Hindi" to "Hindustani". Both are the same

Not done. Edit requests should be uncontroversial and backed by RS. Rainsage (talk) 21:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Minor changes to discuss per MOS:OP-ED

1. The railway network provided critical famine relief, notably reduced the cost of moving goods...
2. No doubt the style of these was used in larger paintings.

The lines above could be found in subsection Modern India and Visual art respectively. The words 'notably' and 'no doubt', although informative the first glance, bring in unnecessary editorialisation. In the first sentence 'noted' puts a subjective emphasisation over the second part without attributing it as an opinion. Similarly the second sentence could also be reframed to remove 'No doubt' which is an clear example of "editoring", but also ironically produces a subtle doubt. Thanks, ExclusiveEditor _{🔔 Ping Me!} 12:33, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

"Notably," in the modern India section has the meaning of "especially," or "in particular," not "in a notable manner," or "strikingly," which perhaps could be a form of editorialization.

With "No doubt," in the Visual Art section, perhaps, I have more sympathy with your concern, but in this instance too, the expresson can be used with the meaning of "with certainty," or "with good likelihood." In a signed paper encyclopedia article, say, in Britannica, where an expert is writing and has some leeway in the use of idiomatic language—contrasted with the formal for making the article more readable for an ordinary reader—examples abound. Thus, in the Leonardo da Vinci article in Britannica art historian Ludwig Heinrich Heydenreich writes, "Moreover, he was no doubt enticed by Duke Ludovico Sforza’s brilliant court and the meaningful projects awaiting him there." I tried looking in Harle, p.367 to 371, the cited source, at achive.org, but lack the knowledge to make any judgments. In this instance, I would defer to user:Johnbod, who wrote the Visual Arts section, and who is our resident arts history expert. Perhaps, they might have something to say.

Thank you user:ExclusiveEditor for bringing this up. Not too many editors notice these things. I wouldn't however call your proposed edits "minor." This article is WP's oldest country Featured Article, now 20 years old. This gives me a chance to remember those who have brought it to where it is, in particular user:Nichalp, administrator and arbitrator, who began the drive for more featured articles on South Asia-related topics and inspired many of us, including user:RegentsPark and user:Abecedare. Also, in September 2019, in preparation for this article's second WP:TFA appearance on 2 October to mark Gandhi's 150th, it was copyedited by the late user:Twofingered Typist, the Lead Coordinator at the time of Guild of Copy Editors, and a member of the Guild of Copy Editors Hall of Fame Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

On "no doubt": it is a common thing in the art history of older periods that a whole class of objects such as wall-paintings have vanished, but smaller works such as miniatures have survived. In cases where some large as well as small works have survived (egt European Romanesque art), their basic styles are normally very similar, so the presumption that this will be the case is often made. Sometimes discoveries are made that confirm this. Some editors think that it is possible to write about the art history of the fragmentary remains from remote periods with the same precision and certainty as (some) subujects from, say, science or geography. It isn't. I don't know what you mean by "editoring", but as we are "editors", this is presumably a good thing. An element of "subtle doubt" is also ok, as no actual examples have survived. We could say "probably", "presumably" etc, but I see no need for a change. Johnbod (talk) 18:18, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Bringing the article back to FA standard

I have just read user:SandyGeorgia's caution in Talk:India/Archive_58#WP:FARGIVEN of late November 2023. I have also noticed that nothing much has happened in its wake, for no fault of anyone but my own.

Although my heart is not in this article any more, I have had such a long history here that I feel a certain amount of responsibility for not letting it go to dogs.

I won't formally begin an FAR process just yet, but I will improve it so the FAR itself is not fraught with people pointing out the very obvious things we all know we should have done. Please bear with me. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:22, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

• I have reduced the lead from 751 words to 656. I don't think it can be reduced much further, unless one wants self-satisfied descriptions in blue-linked simple sentences like other country articles, including FAs. India's ancient history alone has a longer span than the histories of many nations. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:48, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

*:@Fowler&fowler Everything which had a little positive thing about India and Hinduism, you removed all in last many edits very cleverly without any discussion. Looks like you owns the India page that how it should be presented to the world. You removed Rigveda, Spiritual teaching, ISRO mention without discussion. Itsjustme555 (talk) 14:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• While the length is what it is, the more it could be pared back, the more that could be said about the current country. SandyGeorgia mentioned a need throughout to shift to sub-articles, there do seem to be obvious options. We probably don't need the specific list of endangered species here for example, but it's not on the subarticle. Might put duplicating biodiversity down on my to-do list. CMD (talk) 15:57, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

*:@Chipmunkdavis Even India's involvement in G20, Brics, QUAD etc is not mentioned in lead. Lead is completely not up.to the bar as per India's importance to the world right now. Itsjustme555 (talk) 16:03, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Possibly those are examples of information on the current country, although we'd have to get those into the body first. CMD (talk) 16:08, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• :::@Chipmunkdavis Evaluation of India page lead is much much needed. Itsjustme555 (talk) 16:11, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  This is the version of the article that appeared on the Misplaced Pages front page on Gandhi's 150th anniversary on 2nd October 2019, after a two month discussion on the talk page which was both commented on and overseen by dozens of editors, including administrators. The list of G20, etc, passing associations of the moment, have never been a part of the lead of this page Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:42, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  Britannica, for example, makes no mention of G20, or the rest of the fluff, in its article on India, last updated a few days ago. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:44, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  The endangered species in the Biodiversity section have been a part of the article since 2007. I doubt they can be removed. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:31, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  I do not feel the individual species and the occasional longer explanation, for the endangered and the extinct species, significantly contributes to reader understanding of India. The broader statistics, description of human encroachment, and government initiatives provide a succinct overview. CMD (talk) 12:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  The article section is about biodiversity, not Homo sapiens-managed biodiversity, and especially not elected government advertised biodiversity. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 13:14, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Welcome to Misplaced Pages Itsjustme555 (talk · contribs)! I have pared the lead down a little. user:Moxy had suggested a 400-word limit somewhere. It is 650 now. Next, I will revise the history subsections and look for higher-level descriptions of the two history paragraphs. Fowler&fowler«Talk»

• Note Unfortunately, just as I was sitting down to plan the revision, I received news of a family health emergency requiring me to take time off Misplaced Pages for at least several months. I am sorry. Perhaps others will work on this article. Soft pinging user:SandyGeorgia, user:RegentsPark, user:Vanamonde93, user:Abecedare, user:Joshua Jonathan, user:Austronesier, user:Johnbod, user:Chipmunkdavis, user:Kautilya3, user:Moxy, and many others whose names I can't recall this very minute. Best regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  I'm sorry to hear of your emergency. Having read the notice, I agree that those issues need handling, but most of them are matters of summary style and formatting that most editors are capable of handling, and even the dated information that I have seen is relatively straightforward. The biggest challenge might be summarizing recent political developments. The posts above from a blocked sock (Itsjustme555)d can be entirely ignored. Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  Thank you @Vanamonde93:. Before I log out, I wanted to say that there's an old saying: "Man proposes. God disposes." As a neo-Darwinian agnostic of some shade, I take that to mean that purposefulness in humans (or other organisms) functions within an unpredictable external and internal environment. All the best in this revision. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  Notes about the page's history. (A day later, what I face is still a health emergency though not my own, but taking my cue from user:Doug Weller's example, I will be around to attend to some urgent tasks. With this in mind here are a few notes):

  • user:Johnbod has rewritten the India#Visual_arts section within the last few years.
  • user:Rjensen has rewritten the India#Education section within the last few years.
  • user:EMsmile has added the India#Energy subsection within the last few years.
  • I have:

  • added the India#Clothing and India#Cuisine sections in September 2019 for the page's WP:TFA appearance in October that year.
  • have written and occasionally rewritten the India#History, India#Geography (with user:Saravask) and India#Biodiversity (also with user:Saravask) sections over the years.
  • rewrote the lead over the summer of 2019, with new citations and quotes, the latter to help with the rewriting especially of the history sections, which never took place. This explains the disparity between the two history paragraphs of the lead and the India#History sections. It is the latter content that has to be rewritten in light of the newer sources, and then reduced.

  Here is what I can see doing (in this morning's altered horizons):

  • I can rewrite the three India#History sections; update the India#Geography, India#Biodiversity sections; and reduce the India#Clothing and India#Cuisine sections.
  • The remaining sections, however:

  • India#Politics_and_government
  • India#Foreign_economic_and_strategic_relations (Hmm. Not sure the "strategic" was originally there. Please check with other country FAs)
  • India#Economy
  • India#Demographics_languages_and_religions

  • and also subsections:

  • India#Architecture (unless user:Johnbod got to it, but I doubt it ...)
  • India#Literature
  • India#Performing_arts_and_media (overlong and semantically chaotic)
  • India#Society, and
  • India#Sports_and_recreation, will all need the work and input of others.

  Perhaps user:Vanamonde93 could take the lead in organizing this task, with the help of user:RegentsPark and user:Abecedare. Others, such as the editors I have soft-pinged above, and also user:Flemmish Nietzsche, user:Benison, user:Ratnahastin and user:Remsense could perhaps help out. I am sure I am forgetting some valuable others. Please excuse. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:36, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  Thanks for the update. My RL commitments continue to be large and unpredictable - I am incapable of taking the lead on anything, but I will chip away as I can. The demography and religion sections seems largely fine to me, as is literature, society, and biodiversity - nothing there is changing terribly quickly. Ditto politics and government, unless someone feels that democratic backsliding now needs to be covered (in a section that has about 3 sentences for any administration, I'm not sure that it does). Perhaps a post at INB would be useful for updates to Economy? Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  looking good...do we need source clutter in lead? and ....need to fix the huge image problems...that is whole article horizontal scrolling and sandwiching. Moxy🍁 16:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Symbol infobox in government section

I'm uncertain of the utility of this infobox. It seems to me that if a national symbol is important enough to be in this article, it should be in the primary infobox at the top, as indeed many (currency, language, national anthem, song) appropriately are. Does it make sense to have a secondary infobox, though? Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:21, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

I think there was consensus in a recent talk page discussion for removing the infobox altogether. The symbols are the work of the governments of the day, which have their own axes to grind; their notability is not subject-specific scholarly. The flag, anthems and other major symbols have had secondary- and tertiary source attention. But these other symbols have had little or none attention as symbols. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

PS Some, such as the Ganges river dolphin, a highly endangered blind river dolphin, could appear in Biodiversity, but its status as a national symbol should play no role in that appearance. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 13:05, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

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