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==Justify==
Can somebody justify why there is a Misplaced Pages page devoted to an assistant professor of political science who has yet to land a tenured faculty position? There are HUNDREDS of assistant professors in political science who have published articles and univeristy press books in their respective fields. There should be some compelling reason why Dr. Bloom's career and work merits special attention on Misplaced Pages. Otherwise, mark for deletion--seems suspiciously like self-advertising. Every assistant professor in political science, or in any academic field, cannot have their own Misplaced Pages page. That's what www.MYNAME.com domain registration is for. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> Can somebody justify why there is a Misplaced Pages page devoted to an assistant professor of political science who has yet to land a tenured faculty position? There are HUNDREDS of assistant professors in political science who have published articles and univeristy press books in their respective fields. There should be some compelling reason why Dr. Bloom's career and work merits special attention on Misplaced Pages. Otherwise, mark for deletion--seems suspiciously like self-advertising. Every assistant professor in political science, or in any academic field, cannot have their own Misplaced Pages page. That's what www.MYNAME.com domain registration is for. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->


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I support deletion. Definitely has the look of self promotion. Especially since her "thoughts" on the Nice Attack somehow made the main article on the attack. ] (]) 13:31, 20 July 2016 (UTC) I support deletion. Definitely has the look of self promotion. Especially since her "thoughts" on the Nice Attack somehow made the main article on the attack. ] (]) 13:31, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
::You want this deleted to help your case in deleting that bit, or you actually think there's a problem with ''this'' article? Be honest. ] ] 13:35, ], ] (UTC) ::You want this deleted to help your case in deleting that bit, or you actually think there's a problem with ''this'' article? Be honest. ] ] 13:35, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


Every single professor I have ever had could have an article like this. There's no reason anyone would ever look up Mia Bloom, there's no reason anyone would ever want/need to know about her. This is not an encyclopedia entry, it's a puff piece. Sorry for being brusk, but you asked. ] (]) 13:43, 20 July 2016 (UTC) Every single professor I have ever had could have an article like this. There's no reason anyone would ever look up Mia Bloom, there's no reason anyone would ever want/need to know about her. This is not an encyclopedia entry, it's a puff piece. Sorry for being brusk, but you asked. ] (]) 13:43, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
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Sources for ANY of this? This seems to be the only thing making her an 'expert' on terrorism. ] (]) 16:34, 20 July 2016 (UTC) Sources for ANY of this? This seems to be the only thing making her an 'expert' on terrorism. ] (]) 16:34, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
::I've put a 'cit needed' tag on that para, unless there is urgency, that's how to deal with uncited material. ] is where deletion is discussed. ] (]) 22:46, 20 July 2016 (UTC) ::I've put a 'cit needed' tag on that para, unless there is urgency, that's how to deal with uncited material. ] is where deletion is discussed. ] (]) 22:46, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

:::we're addressing a debate from a decade ago. Discussion of deletion is not done on a talk page. There's a process - an article is nominated and the subject is judged against notability criteria in their field, or failing that, WP:GNG. I don't doubt that this subject would pass GNG and thus likely warrants an article on wiki (which is why I didn't nominated it for AfD in 10/2015), I do think it suffers from COI issues and most definitely was not of neutral/objective tone at that time either. Any claim that is unreferenced has been slapped with a CN tag and internet references have been checked - those that fail to confirm any claims have been tagged so. As for the issue related to her comments included in the Nice attacks, I am advising those on the talk page of issues connected to the subject. ] (]) 01:31, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

== Inline improvement tags ==

Just putting this here as a record. The recent bombing of this article with more than a dozen inline tags for citation needed and failed verification is flatly disruptive and very nearly vandalism. Sources were easily found for nearly all of the information, and "verification failed" sources were easily found as an archive version. Verification did not "fail" if there was no attempt made to verify. ] 12:57, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

== LinkedIn as a source? Uh ==

I'm no expert on encyclopedic sources, but I think that using LinkedIn as a source is probably not a wise thing? If it cannot be otherwise verified, perhaps it is best to leave it out. LinkedIn is in the end a social media website, and it would be the same as using what someone lists on Facebook as their job. Is there anyone that disagrees with that sentiment? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:04, 21 July 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Per ], this is allowed for fairly mundane personal details. ] 13:29, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

== Expert ==

The quote from the article is "Hoffman, a renowned terrorism expert who teaches at Georgetown University, knows Bloom as a colleague, and he has followed her work closely. “She is clearly one of the up and coming junior scholars in terrorism,” he says."

The article does not state Bloom as the expert, but rather Hoffman. Easy mistake to make, but it IS a mistake. Cheers.] (]) 19:40, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
:<s>I think you may be on the wrong article...and on a topic that is no longer being discussed even there. ] 19:42, 21 July 2016 (UTC)</s>
:Strike self. I missed the recent edits. ] 19:44, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

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Justify

Can somebody justify why there is a Misplaced Pages page devoted to an assistant professor of political science who has yet to land a tenured faculty position? There are HUNDREDS of assistant professors in political science who have published articles and univeristy press books in their respective fields. There should be some compelling reason why Dr. Bloom's career and work merits special attention on Misplaced Pages. Otherwise, mark for deletion--seems suspiciously like self-advertising. Every assistant professor in political science, or in any academic field, cannot have their own Misplaced Pages page. That's what www.MYNAME.com domain registration is for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.14.179 (talk • contribs)

I wrote the original article. If by "self-advertising" you mean that I am Mia Bloom: no I'm not. I agree with the assertion that an assistant professor is not notable. Mia Bloom wrote a book that perhaps deserves its own article and that made her notable too. ←Humus sapiens 19:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

i agree w/ first user. humus sapiens you bring up an excellent point--the book deserves its own article which means, by default, the prof is notable. BUT--there is no information provided regarding why this book deserves its own article. i assume that lots of assistant professors at lots of universities write books for tenure purposes. i also assume that, in following wiki policy, those that deserve their own pages are notable. so how do we know, as an uninformed audience, either the book or professor is notable?

following policies that other wiki debates have spawned, i'd like to see footnotes citing the importance of the book in terms of its reception, proof that the author is a "leading expert" as claimed in the text, and other evidence that makes this entry 'notable.' i think this is a perfectly fair comment by a non-specialist reader who has not heard of this woman in typical online or TV or radio chats or discussions or debates about suicide terrorism, but would be readily convinced if some hard evidence verified she is a 'leading expert'. and can we not cite book jackets or amazon.com reviews here?  :-( bad experiences with those on wiki. in other words, there is some concern for neutrality and objectivity here.

if no hard external proof can be given, then i agree w/ OP--mark for deletion. and i think the standards of evidence here can be amicably conceded as standard verification policy--something i know humus sapiens would understand as a wiki administrator. 03:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

The article on the book is not written yet. Feel free to improve this or any other article. If you want to see any article removed, try WP:AFD. ←Humus sapiens 05:33, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I support deletion. Definitely has the look of self promotion. Especially since her "thoughts" on the Nice Attack somehow made the main article on the attack. 75.151.5.228 (talk) 13:31, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

You want this deleted to help your case in deleting that bit, or you actually think there's a problem with this article? Be honest. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:35, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Every single professor I have ever had could have an article like this. There's no reason anyone would ever look up Mia Bloom, there's no reason anyone would ever want/need to know about her. This is not an encyclopedia entry, it's a puff piece. Sorry for being brusk, but you asked. 75.151.5.228 (talk) 13:43, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


"With research specialties in ethnic conflict, rape in war and child soldiers, Bloom was a term member of the Council on Foreign Relations from 2003-2008. She is known for her work on suicide terrorism, women and terrorism, children in terrorist groups, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, Boko Haram in Nigeria, radicalization of European/American Muslims and militant women during the Troubles in Northern Ireland."

Sources for ANY of this? This seems to be the only thing making her an 'expert' on terrorism. 75.151.5.228 (talk) 16:34, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I've put a 'cit needed' tag on that para, unless there is urgency, that's how to deal with uncited material. WP:AfD is where deletion is discussed. Pincrete (talk) 22:46, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
we're addressing a debate from a decade ago. Discussion of deletion is not done on a talk page. There's a process - an article is nominated and the subject is judged against notability criteria in their field, or failing that, WP:GNG. I don't doubt that this subject would pass GNG and thus likely warrants an article on wiki (which is why I didn't nominated it for AfD in 10/2015), I do think it suffers from COI issues and most definitely was not of neutral/objective tone at that time either. Any claim that is unreferenced has been slapped with a CN tag and internet references have been checked - those that fail to confirm any claims have been tagged so. As for the issue related to her comments included in the Nice attacks, I am advising those on the talk page of issues connected to the subject. Rayman60 (talk) 01:31, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Inline improvement tags

Just putting this here as a record. The recent bombing of this article with more than a dozen inline tags for citation needed and failed verification is flatly disruptive and very nearly vandalism. Sources were easily found for nearly all of the information, and "verification failed" sources were easily found as an archive version. Verification did not "fail" if there was no attempt made to verify. TimothyJosephWood 12:57, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

LinkedIn as a source? Uh

I'm no expert on encyclopedic sources, but I think that using LinkedIn as a source is probably not a wise thing? If it cannot be otherwise verified, perhaps it is best to leave it out. LinkedIn is in the end a social media website, and it would be the same as using what someone lists on Facebook as their job. Is there anyone that disagrees with that sentiment? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.151.5.228 (talk) 13:04, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Per WP:SELFSOURCE, this is allowed for fairly mundane personal details. TimothyJosephWood 13:29, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Expert

The quote from the article is "Hoffman, a renowned terrorism expert who teaches at Georgetown University, knows Bloom as a colleague, and he has followed her work closely. “She is clearly one of the up and coming junior scholars in terrorism,” he says."

The article does not state Bloom as the expert, but rather Hoffman. Easy mistake to make, but it IS a mistake. Cheers.75.151.5.228 (talk) 19:40, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I think you may be on the wrong article...and on a topic that is no longer being discussed even there. TimothyJosephWood 19:42, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Strike self. I missed the recent edits. TimothyJosephWood 19:44, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

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