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I'm pretty sure they're called "berserkers" in the game. If I'm wrong, I apologize. It occurred to me the second after I hit "save" that it was possible I wasn't correct. --] 19:13, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC) | |||
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: Had to check myself, but they're actually called "berserks" in the game. I'll quickly revert :P -- ] ] 19:18, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC) | |||
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== Sources == | |||
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] 17:56, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC) | |||
:How about including cheats in the article? ] 20:28, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC) | |||
*https://web.archive.org/web/20141207111224/https://news.microsoft.com/1999/11/12/microsoft-age-of-empires-ii-the-age-of-kings-crowned-best-selling-pc-game/ | |||
== Scenario Editor == | |||
*https://web.archive.org/web/20030422012926/http://www.vud.de:80/presse/februar2000.php3 | |||
== Suggestions for edit == | |||
I was slightly annoyed that no mention of the scenario editor was made, so I inserted a text myself. There is thriving online designer's page based in Age of King's Heaven. Though the game is difficult to modify and thus given a back seat to other mods and games, it makes up for this with its unique editor. This accessed in game, is fairly simple and user-friendly, and can be used to create a vast variety of scenartios. AoK custom campaigns are unique in gaming in that they can feature whole stories and complex plots. On their highest level they can even compete with real literature, which is something most official games can't even say. Those are few, however, and fewer than ten campaigns out of roughly 3000 have recieved perfect scores in the Age of Kings Heaven. I believe that the designing community outnumbers the gaming community nowadays. | |||
Hello, | |||
EDIT - Let me just add to my fellow designers words (Oliver? Ana? Zyx?), the community is tight-knit and willing to accept everyone, so long as they keep their behavior respectable. ES has recognized many of our designs, and they seem to enjoy it some. We love our craft, and I'm sure that anyone who tries it and gets used to it will love it too. | |||
Please do look at section ], where it says that | |||
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The Town Center can fire arrows at enemy units within range if villagers or archers are garrisoned while under attack. | |||
It is not true that there is necessarily any "attack", whereas it simply fires when any unit enters the line of sight. | |||
This only seems accurate to me. Please share your thought about it :) | |||
] (]) 14:31, 17 July 2019 (UTC) | |||
Also, please review my edit int the ], where I have changed "Seige Weaponry" to "Seige Weapons" | |||
== DS Version == | |||
because that's the form it is referred to in the game. | |||
Just a piece of opinion (since I've seen someone added the DS category), given the differences that can be spotted from the previews between the original and DS versions (the preview I've read AoK DS is a turn based game), it would be much more advisable to create a separate article, not a different section. ] 21:02, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
:It appears that there's no section or page any longer, or if there is, I was unable to find it. --] (]) 13:37, 27 September 2005 (UTC) | |||
] (]) 15:05, 17 July 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Michi == | |||
== Merger proposal == | |||
Why does ] redirects to this article? | |||
I propose to merge ] into this article. Per the consesnsus ] and ], remasters generally shouldn't have its own article unless the changes are very significant (which is not the case here). ] (]) 12:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
:Because somebody apparently about an AOK map called "Michi" and somebody else decided to redirect instead of delete the article. I agree that it's not a terribly useful redirect, especially since the Michi map is not even mentioned in the article (not that it should be mentioned :P ) - I'll bring this up at ] -- ] ] 10:04, 17 November 2005 (UTC) | |||
:Based on what's in the article and the cursory search for more info, it doesn't seem like there's a ton of separate information and distinct development/reception details that couldn't be summarized, so I'd be fine with a merge. ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 18:39, 9 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
:'''Oppose''' the changes from original are signficant enough to warrant its own article (I mean this game was released 2 decades after the original so this is not a ] situation either). The coverage garnered by this game also satifies ] as laid out in its ] which was a resounding keep and that was even before the game was released. Regards ] ] 17:08, 10 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
*'''Neutral comment''' I posted this at the other remake article. I think the determinative factor would be whether there is significant coverage of the development of this remake, to show that it has a distinct story from the original. That or an expansion of the reception. Otherwise you could very easily just add the re-release and reception to the main article, as they're currently very short. ] (]) 05:29, 14 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
:'''Oppose''' as per Spy-Cicle. ] (]) 16:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
::*A development section doesn't exist right now. I am not seeing a very strong justification to have it as a standalone article when the parent article can accommodate all these information in a more coherant manner. ] (]) 18:59, 22 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
:'''Oppose''' - unlike with the HD Edition, which was basically just porting the game over to Steam and updating the game to work on Windows 8/10, the Definitive Edition is actually a new game in itself. The changes made in the Definitive Edition (graphics, sounds, UI, main menu, new campaigns) are significant enough that the Definitive Edition should have its own article. ] has its own separate article for the same reason ] has its own separate article. It's an enhanced remake (with enough new features to distinguish itself from the original game) and not just a remaster.—] (] • ]) 19:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC) | |||
==Request for cleaning up== | |||
*I have withdrawn the merge request for ''Definitive Edition''. While I still feel that the parent article can handle the information much better, it seems that there is a consensus to keep it. ] (]) 11:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
This article is full of gamecruft, contains one-sentence-sections and is outdated at times (a release scheduled for February 14).]''']]''' 07:24, 20 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
== zone history == | |||
theres a whole different aok game in zone and theres history of clans and stuff can i write a article about the history? | |||
:Thank you for your suggestion! When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make whatever changes you feel are needed. Misplaced Pages is a ], so ''anyone'' can edit any article by simply following the '''{{MediaWiki:edit}}''' link at the top. You don't even need to ]! (Although there are some ]...) The Misplaced Pages community encourages you to ]. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out ], or use the ] to try out your editing skills. ].'''<span style="color:#000088;">—♦♦ </span>]]''' 09:40, 3 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Article Tone == | |||
I think the tone of this article is a bit unencyclopedic. There is so much reference to the first Age of Empires and ways in which this one is better. I think the article should be rephrased since this is not a series comparison article. Anyone agree? ] 16:42, 14 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
* I'll take a stab at tidying this up in the next couple of days. I can see where I can do some work here and there. Having played the game for quite some time, I should be able to sort it out...--] 05:56, 21 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Historical Accuracy == | |||
How accurate are the history notes in the unique unit section? It looks to me like most of those notes came from the game manual, which may or may not be a credible source of historical information. I'll see if I can research this more.] 22:08, 23 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Removal of Cheat Codes section== | |||
As per ], I am removing the '''Cheat Codes''' section.--] 22:28, 20 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Missing Wonder== | |||
I couldn't help but notice that in the Wonders section, the Britons are missing. Anyone care to fix this problem?--] 20:03 19 July 2006 | |||
Never mind; read the section after.--] 20:05 19 July 2006 | |||
==Help== | |||
I found an Age of Empires II guide on Gamespot. The problem is, everytime I access a section in that guide, I don't see what I expect to see. All that I see is a blank page! Could someone please tell me how to fix this problem? After all, I ''really'' need a walkthrough for the campaign scenarios that I have never completed without cheating! | |||
Hello! Could someone please answer my question? | |||
:Yeah, there are some pretty hard missions. I myself have never completed all the campaigns without cheating. Anyways, try to sign all your comments with 4 tildes. (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) ] 04:32, 2 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Article needs to be reduced in size == | |||
The units section is ridicously enourmous. From barracks to docks each unit is described, how about spitting such part into a new article. Another suggestion? | |||
*I agree, it should be split. ] 15:08, 23 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
*I also agree that the article should be split. However, shouldn't we also split the Unique Units section with the Units section? ] 17:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
I also agree, and we should put the unit's specific weaknesses+Strengths. | |||
*I'd love that, but unfortunately if you try to make a units section for an RTS game on this site, it usually is deleted. I think it's stupid too, but I guess some people just insist on deleting those articles. ] 04:35, 2 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
*I completely agree. ] 17:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== No Mention of Gold Edition? == | |||
There is no mention of Age of Empires II: Gold Edition. The Gold Edition contains both Age of Kings and The Conquerors Expansion. Anyone else agree that this should be mentioned somewhere? If so, where in the article? ] 16:13, 26 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
: Added, thanks for your input —] 06:40, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Suicide bomber == | |||
Hey, the description of the Petard (Suicide bomber) unit says that it's only in the conquerors expansion. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this unit also used in a campaign mission and the scenario editer in regular AoK? ] 04:40, 2 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
You may mean ''Saboteurs''. These are basically Petards, but much more powerful, and in AoK. Petards are in the conquerors expansion. ] 17:40, 2 September 2006 (UTC) |
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Suggestions for edit
Hello, Please do look at section Age of Empires II#Buildings, where it says that
The Town Center can fire arrows at enemy units within range if villagers or archers are garrisoned while under attack.
It is not true that there is necessarily any "attack", whereas it simply fires when any unit enters the line of sight. This only seems accurate to me. Please share your thought about it :) Hands of the vision (talk) 14:31, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Also, please review my edit int the Age of Empires II#Units and civilizations, where I have changed "Seige Weaponry" to "Seige Weapons" because that's the form it is referred to in the game.
Hands of the vision (talk) 15:05, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Merger proposal
I propose to merge Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition into this article. Per the consesnsus here and here, remasters generally shouldn't have its own article unless the changes are very significant (which is not the case here). OceanHok (talk) 12:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Based on what's in the article and the cursory search for more info, it doesn't seem like there's a ton of separate information and distinct development/reception details that couldn't be summarized, so I'd be fine with a merge. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 18:39, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose the changes from original are signficant enough to warrant its own article (I mean this game was released 2 decades after the original so this is not a Talk:The Last of Us Remastered situation either). The coverage garnered by this game also satifies WP:GNG as laid out in its AFD which was a resounding keep and that was even before the game was released. Regards Spy-cicle💥 17:08, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Neutral comment I posted this at the other remake article. I think the determinative factor would be whether there is significant coverage of the development of this remake, to show that it has a distinct story from the original. That or an expansion of the reception. Otherwise you could very easily just add the re-release and reception to the main article, as they're currently very short. Shooterwalker (talk) 05:29, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose as per Spy-Cicle. Mark49s (talk) 16:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- A development section doesn't exist right now. I am not seeing a very strong justification to have it as a standalone article when the parent article can accommodate all these information in a more coherant manner. OceanHok (talk) 18:59, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose - unlike with the HD Edition, which was basically just porting the game over to Steam and updating the game to work on Windows 8/10, the Definitive Edition is actually a new game in itself. The changes made in the Definitive Edition (graphics, sounds, UI, main menu, new campaigns) are significant enough that the Definitive Edition should have its own article. Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition has its own separate article for the same reason Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen has its own separate article. It's an enhanced remake (with enough new features to distinguish itself from the original game) and not just a remaster.—Mythdon (talk • contribs) 19:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- I have withdrawn the merge request for Definitive Edition. While I still feel that the parent article can handle the information much better, it seems that there is a consensus to keep it. OceanHok (talk) 11:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)