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<includeonly>==Speedy renaming and merging==</includeonly> | |||
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<includeonly>== Speedy renaming and merging ==</includeonly> | |||
<noinclude>{{Deletion debates}}</noinclude> | <noinclude>{{Deletion debates}}</noinclude> | ||
'''Speedy renaming''' or '''speedy merging''' of categories may be requested <em>only</em> if they meet a ''']''', for example ] (consistency with main article's name) or ] (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below. | |||
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# '''Determine''' which '''speedy criterion''' applies | |||
Categories may be listed for '''speedy renaming''' or '''speedy merging''' if they meet one or more of the criteria spefcified below. They '''must be tagged''' with {{tlsx|cfr-speedy|''New name''}} so that users of the categories are aware of the proposal. A request may be processed '''48 hours''' after it was listed if there are no objections. This delay allows other editors to review the request to ensure that it meets the criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change. | |||
# '''Tag category page''' with {{tlsx|cfr-speedy|''New name''}} or {{tlsx|cfm-speedy|''Merge target''}} | |||
# '''List request''' along with ] reason under "]" below on this page | |||
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at ]. | |||
Categories that qualify for speedy ''deletion'' (per ], e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation", categories that have been empty for seven days) can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{tlx|db|reason}}, and no delay is required to process these. Renaming under ] can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on ]. | |||
Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change. | |||
Contested requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed, after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{tlx|moved discussion from|<nowiki>]|2=~~~~</nowiki>}}. If the nominator wants to continue the process, they need to submit the request as a regular CfD in accordance with <noinclude>]</noinclude><includeonly>the instructions here</includeonly>. | |||
Categories that qualify for '''speedy deletion''' (per ], e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{tlx|db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{tl|db-empty}}. Renaming under ] may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on ]. | |||
=== Speedy criteria === | |||
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination: | |||
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are '''''strictly''''' limited to: | |||
*'''Oppose''', (the reasons for your objection). <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> | |||
{{#section:Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion|C2}} | |||
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section ] or the page ] (]). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search ] to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy. | |||
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{tlx|moved discussion from|<nowiki>]|2=~~~~</nowiki>}}. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at ] (CfD) in accordance with ]. | |||
* A nomination to '''merge''' or '''rename''', brought forward as a full ], may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that: | |||
** The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, | |||
** And no objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination. | |||
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who . If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion. | |||
* If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus. | |||
===Speedy criteria=== | |||
{{shortcut|WP:C2}} | |||
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are <strong style="font-style:italic;">strictly</strong> limited to: | |||
{{Anchor|C2A|c2a}} | |||
====C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes==== | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2A}} | |||
* Correction of spelling errors and ]. Differences between ] (e.g. ''Harbours → Harbors'') are <strong>not</strong> considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under ]. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged. | |||
* Appropriate conversion of hyphens into ] or ] (e.g. ''Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations''). | |||
*Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing ] (e.g. ''Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads''). This includes ]izing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a ]. | |||
{{Anchor|C2B|c2b}} | |||
====C2B: Consistency with established Misplaced Pages naming conventions and practices==== | |||
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* ] (e.g. ''U.S. → United States''). | |||
* ] fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. ''Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state)'' or ''Category:Washington, D.C.''). | |||
{{Anchor|C2C|c2c}} | |||
====C2C: Consistency with established category tree names==== | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2C}} | |||
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "''x by y''", "''x of y''", or "''x in y''" categorization conventions specified at ] | |||
* This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory. | |||
* This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination. | |||
* This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. '']'' and '']''). | |||
{{Anchor|C2D|c2d}} | |||
====C2D: Consistency with main article's name==== | |||
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* Renaming a ] to match its eponymous page (e.g. ] and ]). | |||
* This applies <strong style="font-style:italic;">only</strong> if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is: | |||
**<em style="font-style:normal;text-decoration:underline;">unambiguous</em> (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the ] of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and | |||
**<em style="font-style:normal;text-decoration:underline;">uncontroversial</em>, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at ], or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a '''no consensus''' result, or it is controversial in some other way. | |||
*This criterion may also be used to rename a ] in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district. | |||
* Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category. | |||
{{Anchor|C2E|c2e}} | |||
====C2E: Author request==== | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2E}} | |||
*This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category. | |||
*The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming. | |||
====C2F: One eponymous page==== | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2F}} | |||
* This criterion applies if the category contains ''only'' an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{tlsx|cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at ], you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them. | |||
===Admin instructions=== | |||
When handling the listings: | |||
# Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria. | |||
# With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously. | |||
# Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition. | |||
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at ], in the section "If the decision is to '''Rename''', '''Merge''', or '''Delete'''"; to list it for the bots, use the ]. | |||
====Applying speedy criteria in full discussions==== | |||
* A nomination to '''merge''' or '''rename''', brought forward as a full ], may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that: | |||
** The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and | |||
** No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination. | |||
* If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus. | |||
{{Anchor|Add requests for speedy renaming here}} | {{Anchor|Add requests for speedy renaming here}} | ||
==Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here== | |||
''If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, {{em|do not list it here}}. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.'' | |||
'''If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, |
'''If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, {{em|do not list it here}}.''' | ||
Use the following format on a new line at the |
Use the following format on a new line at the {{strong|beginning}} of the list: <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">* ] to ] – Reason ~~~~</syntaxhighlight> | ||
If the current name ] rather than deleted, use: <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">* REDIRECT ] to ] – Reason ~~~~</syntaxhighlight> | |||
'''Remember to tag the category with:''' <code>{{tlsp|Cfr-speedy|''New name''}}</code> | |||
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use: | |||
<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">* NO BOTS ] to ] – Reason ~~~~</syntaxhighlight> | |||
{{strong|Remember to tag the category page with:}} {{tlsx|cfr-speedy|''New name''}} | |||
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than {{#time:H:i, j F Y "(UTC)"| -48 hours}}. Currently, there are '''{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Categories for speedy renaming}}''' open requests {{smaller|({{Purge|refresh}})}}. | A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than {{#time:H:i, j F Y "(UTC)"| -48 hours}}. Currently, there are '''{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Categories for speedy renaming}}''' open requests {{smaller|({{Purge|refresh}})}}. | ||
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===Current requests=== | |||
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D). | |||
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**'''Oppose until the code to change is identified''' We're getting too many problems with these categories being put up for renaming without the templates/modules being changed. These messes need to stop and changes only approved that can be processed properly. '''Note to closing admin''' Please do '''not''' list this on the working page until the template/module changes have been identified and implemented. ] (]) 13:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
**'''Oppose''' as ambiguous, ] is a disambiguation page. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 07:00, 9 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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**'''Support''' I'd say to merge ] into ], as the page ] also contains the history when it was known as Morristown High School. And then merge ] to ] per nomination | |||
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**'''Oppose''', per the ], some less known than others. Furthermore, we're not doing this to other parts of New York, so there's no reason to single out Long Island. ---------] (]) 19:56, 7 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
**'''Oppose until the code to change is identified''' We're getting too many problems with these categories being put up for renaming without the templates/modules being changed. These messes need to stop and changes only approved that can be processed properly. '''Note to closing admin''' Please do '''not''' list this on the working page until the template/module changes have been identified and implemented. ] (]) 13:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*** '''Comment''' – there is also ]. ] (]) 00:50, 8 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
**:{{yo|MSGJ}} I believe this should already be handled by your updates to ]? Thanks, <b>]]</b> (] • he/they) 23:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
**** The few categories which use "Long Island, New York" are the exception and should be fixed; nearly all page titles about this island use "Long Island". ] ] 02:39, 8 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – correct terminology --] (]) 17:27, 7 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – the full title of the head of the ISI is "Director General" not solely "Director" ] (]) 05:57, 6 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
**'''Comment''': shouldn't it be "Directors General"? ] (]) 07:08, 6 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*** '''Comment''': I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it is "Director Generals" not "Directors General."--] (]) 18:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
**** '''Comment''': The correct English terminology is "Directors-General", not "Director-Generals". ''']''' (]) 09:11, 7 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:* {{ping|LIrala}} it should rather become ] per e.g. ] and ]. ] (]) 07:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**'''Oppose''' This is not a C2C issue. It is a merger, which the nominator ] implemented out-of-process, and which I have now reverted. It may or may not be a good idea, but it is not C2C. Needs a full CFD discussion. --] <small>] • (])</small> 15:02, 13 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2D: ]. Retain cat redirect for common name and also rename sub- and sub-sub-cats. —]<span style="color:red">❤]☮]☺]☯</span> 03:36, 15 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
::'''Oppose''' : the overall category is ] and only its subcategory referring to timber framing use the term "Timber" ] (]) 13:49, 16 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::Yeah - I'd agree with Hugo, for the reasons of the current category system. If you want to be picky and pedantic about it, timber is usually converted to lumber before being used in construction anyway. It's worth noting that the current ] article arrived at its current length after a merger with the similarly sized article ] (now a redirect). Judging by the earlier content of the two articles, it could be yet another instance of one name (timber) used in the US and one (wooden) used in the rest of the English-speaking world - in which case C2D may suggest "yes", but C2A suggests "no". ]...''<small><font color="#008822">]</font></small>'' 06:35, 20 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
::'''Comment''': The American country category ] and 20 subcategories by state use "Wooden" not "Timber" ] (]) 04:35, 4 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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***{{ping|Good Olfactory}} I'm not sure this would be an improvement. The main article ] begins "Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine involved paramilitary actions carried out by Jewish underground groups against the British forces and officials in Mandatory Palestine between 1939 and 1948." So it does not seem accurate to refer to "the Jewish insurgency" as an event; perhaps "the period of Jewish insurgency"? Meanwhile, the term "Palestine Emergency" is used elsewhere for this period, in ] (dates stated as 1945–48) and <s>]</s> ]. Perhaps the most specific term would follow the section ]. However, "British military personnel of the Jewish Resistance Movement" or the nomination "British military personnel of the Jewish insurgency" might imply involvement in or support for the Movement/insurgency. I'd be inclined to just add dates at the end of the existing name. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 15:50, 21 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
**** I revised the section link in the "friendly fire" article to 1945–48, as this also matches the dates given in the biographies in the subcat. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 21:22, 10 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
***'''Oppose''' these two, not uncontroversial. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 23:18, 26 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
****Moved the first one to a ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 02:54, 30 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2A: ]; it's not about film actors (or comedians) that are silent, it's the films they appear in that are ]s. Tagging only the top two levels to begin with. ] (]) 12:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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*:'''Speedy oppose'''. I'm not sure this works under the wikipedia hypenation rules. Especially since we have ] as the parent category. ] 11:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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*** {{ping|HandsomeFella}} do you want to take this to full CfD? ] (]) 17:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
***:Yes please. ] (]) 20:38, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
***::{{yo|HandsomeFella}} typically, you do that yourself. See ], which can automate this process :) Best, <b>]]</b> (] • he/they) 03:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2C: a few birds such as the Choiseul pigeon or the broad-billed parrot are contemporarily extinct ; the others are prehistoric ans should be moved to a relevant category (by renaming this one?) --] (]) 12:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
** {{ping|Couiros22}} not sure that this fits speedy because ] is a valid category tree too. ] (]) 17:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:the point is to have a 'prehistoric monotypic bird genera' cat embedded in a 'extinct monotypic bird genera' cat. (we can reput the two examples above into the latter) just as 'prehistoric animals' is embedded in the 'extinct animals' cat. --] (]) 17:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**::In that case, just create a new category? - ] <sub>]</sub> 20:55, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**I agree that this doesn't really fit ]. Also, the established naming scheme for this category tree is {{cat|Monotypic prehistoric animal genera}}, not {{cat|Prehistoric monotypic animal genera}}. ] (]) 23:58, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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***'''Hold''' these three pending RM at ]; it appears to me that the article is mis-named, and should include Molenbeek. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 20:56, 6 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2C: parent is "Indigenous leaders of the Americas", which uses "of" ] 18:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2C in ]. Although the revised name could be taken as ambiguous, it follows the others in ]. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 07:03, 13 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
:* {{ping|Smasongarrison}} arguably the parent might be renamed to "in". ] (]) 18:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:*:Both parents? ] also uses of ] 18:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
***'''Oppose''', because of the ambiguity already discussed at ]. ] (]) 17:51, 13 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
:*:* Right. There is ]. I guess "in" is technically more correct. ] (]) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
****Ah, well spotted. Wouldn't the same arguments apply to all of ] and ]? Mass nomination, anyone? – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 17:36, 15 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
:*:*:Hmmm. That's a good point. I don't have strong opinions about which is used. Should we take this to full to see if someone does? ] 19:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*****{{re|Fayenatic london}} Good point. I agree the same arguments would apply to all of these, and am preparing a mass nomination for the smaller one, {{cat|Explorers by nationality}}. Cheers, ] (]) 23:25, 18 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
:* The parent category has been nominated for renaming in the opposite direction, see ]. ] (]) 21:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
****** I can't really see how the same argument applies generally to ], ] etc. The earlier debate arose because there is no descriptive adjective for people from the Republic of Venice. ] (]) 12:24, 19 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
******* Maybe it's unnecessary in Europe, but the category names in Europe should follow those required for places that were explored (OK, by Europeans, we know...) | |||
******* Anyway, this speedy nomination for Explorers will not be C2C if the rest are renamed the other way at ]. Historians should probably follow. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 12:36, 21 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
*** {{ping|Sionk}} As there was a strong consensus at that CfD to keep the existing convention for Fooian explorers, the proposal here is C2C after all; so do you withdraw your opposition, at least for the explorers category? – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 17:18, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
**** Why would I do that? The category has already been renamed following a CfD. These are explorers/historians ''from'' the Republic of Venice, not ''of'' the Republic of Venice. Unlike many other nationalities, there is no adjective to describe people ''from'' the Republic of Venice. It's pointless blndly following convention when there is no 'one size that fits all'. ] (]) 17:30, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
***** {{ping|Sionk}} Because the parent is {{cat|Republic of Venice people}}, which contains many more occupations named like that. The point of the 2014 CfD was to insert "Republic of" in place of Venetian. By the consensus of the latest CfD, which rejected using "from" in all other cases, the 2014 participants worried too much when they put the location at the end of the name instead of the beginning to avoid ambiguity. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 19:13, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
******We could just renominate it for a full discussion. I supported the previous renaming, but in light of the more recent outcome, I would be happy to support changing it back. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:02, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*****{{ping|Fayenatic london}} As you can see the previous CfD discussion for historians and explorers (separate from all other professions) was raised to avoid ambiguity in these two specific categories. As was raised in the ], New Zealand suffers the same issues (there's no adjective 'Newzealandish'). Well, if the consensus is to restore this confusing ambiguity then so be it, I don't have the time or inclination to spend more time on these daft 'one size fits all' arguments. ] (]) 18:58, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
******{{ping|Sionk}} Category definitions can be used to resolve any ambiguity that exists for a category based on its name if the ambiguity results from the name conforming to a convention. A sizable portion of category names are not 100% unambiguous, so this is not a new problem. ] <sup>]</sup> 04:46, 4 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*******Who reads category definitions before adding a category? No one. A simple and practical solution would be to name categories so they are unambigious, rather than a rigid "This category was named that way, so all similar categories must follow regardless". ] (]) 22:34, 6 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
********{{ping|Sionk}} We have no way of knowing one way or the other the percentage of readers that read category headers, so I'm not sure how you are so sure that "no one" does. (I, for one, do read them when they are there – so your (perhaps exaggerrated?) opinion can't be correct.) Anyways, thinking more broadly, categories cannot always be 100% unambiguous, so the solution you propose is neither simple nor practical in many circumstances. Thinking of the category scheme as a whole, I think it makes more sense (and would generally be more helpful) to bring as much predictability and standardization as possible to the system, and then issues of relatively minor ambiguity could be dealt with through category definitions. It has the added beauty of being generally in line with current and historical practice on Misplaced Pages. ] <sup>]</sup> 08:09, 9 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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*: '''Oppose speedy''' There are fare more subcategories of {{cat|People whose existence is disputed}} that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. ] <sup>]</sup> 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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*::Those are all being renamed to match this parent. ] ] 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::: In that case we should wait until that is concluded and if it does then we can process this. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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*:'''Postpone''' until we know the result of the proposed move of ]. ]...''<small>]</small>'' 03:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::*], do you disagree that the current title is "unambiguous and uncontroversial"? (bird genus) is irregular, overprecise disambiguation. Would ]? --] (]) 00:17, 5 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::* {{ping|BDD}} As it happens, I do; a linnet is a bird, but Linaria is a bird genus. I'm surprised to see that there are a few others in ] named likewise. However, my opposition is not on the merits of the case, but solely on the process; C2D specifies two forms of evidence of "unambiguous and uncontroversial": either longstanding name, or RM. By all means do make a full CFD nomination; I shan't object to it. Easy CFDs are closed promptly these days. There is no need to quote or refer to this speedy nomination, as it's only opposed on process. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 08:48, 5 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::* Now at ]. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 20:59, 6 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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::'''Oppose''' Shouldn't it be ]? ] (]) 22:10, 14 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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***{{ping|Tim!}} are these right, though? Some of these are contrary to C2D. Most of the pages beginning ] are redirects; there are more beginning ]. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 17:13, 20 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:* '''Oppose all''' needs discussion. ] (]) 18:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::* What exactly is your problem, sir? The vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt). Also, "Museums of Ancient Near East" categories are missing the definite article regardless of your preferences ("Museums of the Ancient Near East" or "Museums of the ancient Near East").--] (]) 21:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::*I'm fine with adding "the" - it's "ancient" that needs discussion. If it it is true that "the vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt)" this is only because of recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus. ] (]) 04:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::*So why don't you discuss it on ] instead? To begin with, there is not enough people in CFDs to discuss this matter. Also, what "capitalization fanatics" are you talking about? Are you aware that "Ancient Near East" was changed to "ancient Near East" in 2011 (])? Here's an excerpt: ''"According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"."'' Since 2011, nobody has talked about capitalization on Talk:Ancient Near East. | |||
:::::Except Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East, other categories with no definite article should be renamed in any case. I suggest to stick to "ancient Near East" at first because it's more widespread inspite of your claim about "a handful of capitalization fanatics" (you provided no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and is under discussion). Personally, I don't care whether it is "ancient Near East" or "Ancient Near East", but the current consensus is apparently the former and let's stick to it.--] (]) 20:38, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::Most category and article page names do use lowercase "ancient" in phrases like "ancient Rome" and "ancient Greece" (excluding language designations). See usage throughout the ] page, ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], and ] for examples. I believe we should aim for consistency in article and category names. Many of these pages and categories have had these names for quite some time and were not moved recently. If you would like to use uppercase in phrases like "Ancient Greece", why not propose this at the talk pages of the main pages? ] (]) 06:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:* {{ping|Russian Rocky}} are you planning to move this to full discussion? ] (]) 06:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::* Yes, please. Unfortunately, I can't figure out myself what Johnbod's problem is. He claimed that the vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" because of "recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus", but there is no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and/or is under discussion. I agree with ] on ] who said the following: ''"According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"."'' | |||
::* See ''The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies'' (Appendix A: Capitalization and Spelling Examples) at the Internet Archive: .--] (]) 08:32, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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*:I do not think this is the speedy material. {{ping|OGBC1992}}, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? ] (]) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::Hi @] I am not sure how to take something to CFD if you wouldn't mind assisting? Many thanks. ] (]) 11:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
** Moved to ]. ] (]) 21:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2C: parent is Russian military personnel killed in the Russo-Ukrainian War ] 14:16, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**] I would suggest a full discussion for both categories as the war in Donbas involved Pro-Russian military units rather than only Russian military units and the members of the category are almost all Pro-Russian Ukrainians. ] is a parent of ] and a grandparent of ]. ] (]) 17:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:Why is ] a parent of ]? Pro-russian is a cause not a nationality. ] 19:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**::Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas contains Russians and Ukrainians so it is not really a nationality category. ] (]) 19:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:::If that's the case, then the category should either be renamed to Pro-Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas or purged to only include russian nationals. I personally don't care which way it goes, but the naming isn't consistent. Can you take it to full? ] 19:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**::::Done at ]. ] (]) 20:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:::::Discussion was relisted on ]. Regards, ] <sup>]</sup> 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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*:'''oppose''' as per MOS:JOBTITLES ''They are capitalized only in the following cases: When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself'' the category is addressing the position in and of itself. This applies to all the other listed categories as well ]] 11:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::The job titles are in plural, and we do not capitalize in such cases (see: "When a formal title for a specific entity... is not plural..."). Similar categories have also been moved to use lowercase based on this (e.g., ], categories under ], categories under ], and categories under ]; see also articles like ], ], etc.) ] (]) 17:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
** {{ping|WikiEditor50}} are you planning to move these to full discussion? ] (]) 20:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
ShortcutThe category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
Shortcut- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Misplaced Pages naming conventions and practices
Shortcut- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
ShortcutBringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Misplaced Pages:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
Shortcut- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
Shortcut- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
Shortcut- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* ] to ] – Reason ~~~~
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT ] to ] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS ] to ] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 14:31, 4 January 2025 (UTC). Currently, there are 260 open requests (refresh).
Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour waiting period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Gaumont Film Company films to Category:Gaumont (company) films – C2D: per Gaumont (company) VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 14:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Gaumont Film Company to Category:Gaumont (company) – C2D: per Gaumont (company) VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 14:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Jeju United FC to Category:Jeju SK FC – C2D, Jeju SK FC. Snowflake91 (talk) 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Jeju United FC managers to Category:Jeju SK FC managers – C2D, Jeju SK FC. Snowflake91 (talk) 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Jeju United FC seasons to Category:Jeju SK FC seasons – C2D, Jeju SK FC. Snowflake91 (talk) 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Jeju United FC players to Category:Jeju SK FC players – C2D, Jeju SK FC. Snowflake91 (talk) 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Jeju United FC templates to Category:Jeju SK FC templates – C2D, Jeju SK FC. Snowflake91 (talk) 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:CS Sporting Vaslui templates to Category:FC Vaslui templates – C2D. Rhinen (talk) 13:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:CS Sporting Vaslui to Category:FC Vaslui – C2D. Rhinen (talk) 13:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:CS Sporting Vaslui managers to Category:FC Vaslui managers – C2D. Rhinen (talk) 13:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:CS Sporting Vaslui players to Category:FC Vaslui players – C2D. Rhinen (talk) 13:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Zhytkavichy District to Category:Zhytkavichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Zhlobin District to Category:Zhlobin district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Yelsk District to Category:Yelsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Vyetka District to Category:Vyetka district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Svyetlahorsk District to Category:Svyetlahorsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Rechytsa District to Category:Rechytsa district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Rahachow District to Category:Rahachow district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Pyetrykaw District to Category:Pyetrykaw district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Narowlya District to Category:Narowlya district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Mazyr District to Category:Mazyr district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Lyelchytsy District to Category:Lyelchytsy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Loyew District to Category:Loyew district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Khoiniki District to Category:Khoiniki district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Karma District to Category:Karma district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Kalinkavichy District to Category:Kalinkavichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Gomel District to Category:Gomel district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Dobrush District to Category:Dobrush district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Chachersk District to Category:Chachersk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Buda-Kashalyova District to Category:Buda-Kashalyova district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Brahin District to Category:Brahin district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Aktsyabrski District to Category:Aktsyabrski district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 11:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Men's Elite Trophy to Category:Jay Trophy - C2D. The name of Category has been changed. Csknp (talk) 14:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Zhabinka District to Category:Zhabinka district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Stolin District to Category:Stolin district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Pruzhany District to Category:Pruzhany district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Pinsk District to Category:Pinsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Malaryta District to Category:Malaryta district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Lyakhavichy District to Category:Lyakhavichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Luninyets District to Category:Luninyets district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Kobryn District to Category:Kobryn district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Kamyenyets District to Category:Kamyenyets district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Ivatsevichy District to Category:Ivatsevichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Ivanava District to Category:Ivanava district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Hantsavichy District to Category:Hantsavichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Drahichyn District to Category:Drahichyn district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Byaroza District to Category:Byaroza district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Brest District to Category:Brest district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Baranavichy District to Category:Baranavichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 09:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Software using the GPL license to Category:Software using the GNU General Public License – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 05:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Software using the CDDL license to Category:Software using Common Development and Distribution License
- Category:Software using the CPL license to Category:Software using the Common Public License
- Category:Software using the Eclipse license to Category:Software using the Eclipse Public License
- Category:Software using the GNU AGPL license to Category:Software using the GNU Affero General Public License
- Category:Software using the LGPL license to Category:Software using the GNU Lesser General Public License
- Category:Software using the LPPL license to Category:Software using the LaTeX Project Public License
- Category:Software using the Mozilla license to Category:Software using the Mozilla Public License
- Merge Category:Software using the MPL license into the above category as a duplicate
- Category:Software using the NCSA license to Category:Software using the University of Illinois/NCSA Open Source License
- Category:Software using the PSF license to Category:Software using the Python Software Foundation License
- Category:Software using the Unlicense license to Category:Software using the Unlicense
- Category:Software using the W3C license to Category:Software using the W3C Software Notice and License
- Category:556 BC Births to Category:556 BC births – C2C: per Category:Births by year –Aidan721 (talk) 00:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Jack Abramoff scandals to Category:Jack Abramoff controversies – C2D: per RM. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 23:36, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Children of people disappeared during Dirty War to Category:Children of people disappeared during the Dirty War – C2A: Grammar Salmoonlight (talk) 21:40, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:United Kingdom in World War I to Category:United Kingdom during the First World War – C2A. British version of "World War I" is "First World War". There is a parent category, British Empire in World War I, but I'm not sure of the "reach" the British naming. I also changed the preposition, so maybe not speedy. HandsomeFella (talk) 21:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Breaks consistency with Category:World War I by country. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:2012 Greek legislative elections to Category:2012 Greek parliamentary elections – C2C/C2D Number 57 21:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Ship collision to Category:Ship collisions
- Category:Ship grounding to Category:Ship groundings – C2C: both Ship collisions and ship groundings per sub-categories and sister categories in Category:Collision which are all pluralized. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:03, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:St. Mark's College (University of Adelaide) to Category:Residential colleges of the University of Adelaide – C2F Aloneinthewild (talk) 17:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from St Albans (district) to Category:People from the City of St Albans – C2C per Category:City of St Albans and Category:Actors from the City of St Albans. Inpops (talk) 14:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:2025 novel debuts to Category:2025 debut novels – C2C: To match with Category:2020s debut novels and its other subcats. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 13:49, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Vileyka District to Category:Vileyka district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:19, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Valozhyn District to Category:Valozhyn district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:19, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Uzda District to Category:Uzda district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:19, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Stowbtsy District to Category:Stowbtsy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:18, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Staryya Darohi District to Category:Staryya Darohi district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:18, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Smalyavichy District to Category:Smalyavichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:18, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Slutsk District to Category:Slutsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:18, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Salihorsk District to Category:Salihorsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Pukhavichy District to Category:Pukhavichy district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Nyasvizh District to Category:Nyasvizh district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Myadzyel District to Category:Myadzyel district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Minsk District to Category:Minsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:16, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Maladzyechna District to Category:Maladzyechna district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Lyuban District to Category:Lyuban district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Lahoysk District to Category:Lahoysk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Krupki District to Category:Krupki district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Klyetsk District to Category:Klyetsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Kapyl District to Category:Kapyl district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Dzyarzhynsk District to Category:Dzyarzhynsk district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Chervyen District to Category:Chervyen district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Byerazino District to Category:Byerazino district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:13, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Barysaw District to Category:Barysaw district – C2D. Mellk (talk) 08:13, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Caloocan Supremos templates to Category:Caloocan Batang Kankaloo templates – C2D, these categories still use the former name of an MPBL team.
- Category:NJ Transit Bus Garages to Category:NJ Transit bus garages - C2B: It's fine with me for any category to be renamed. --Danny5784 (talk) 01:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Draft-Class Manitoba road transport articles to Category:Draft-Class Manitoba road transport pages – C2C: Code is at Module:WikiProject banner#L-330. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:18, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Project-Class philosophy articles by work group to Category:Project-Class philosophy pages by work group – C2C: These are handled manually (i.e. with the standard
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markup), so the bot can directly update them. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 23:33, 4 January 2025 (UTC)- REDIRECT Category:Portal-Class philosophy articles by work group to Category:Portal-Class philosophy pages by work group
- REDIRECT Category:NA-Class philosophy articles by work group to Category:NA-Class philosophy pages by work group
- REDIRECT Category:Draft-Class philosophy articles by work group to Category:Draft-Class philosophy pages by work group
- Category:Ships built by the Lake Union Dry Dock Company to Category:Ships built by Lake Union Dry Dock Company - WP:C2B per WP:THE and WP:C2C per all the other subcategories of Category:Ships built in Washington (state) except:
- REDIRECT Category:Template-Class television articles by task force to Category:Template-Class television pages by task force – C2C: Per articles->pages; these are all done manually and as such can be moved by the bot. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 23:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Project-Class television articles by task force to Category:Project-Class television pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:Portal-Class television articles by task force to Category:Portal-Class television pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:NA-Class television articles by task force to Category:NA-Class television pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:FM-Class television articles by task force to Category:FM-Class television pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:File-Class television articles by task force to Category:File-Class television pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:Draft-Class television articles by task force to Category:Draft-Class television pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:Disambig-Class television articles by task force to Category:Disambig-Class television pages by task force
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class television articles by task force to Category:Category-Class television pages by task force
- Category:NJ Transit Bus Garages to Category:NJ Transit bus garages – C2B: sentence case Gjs238 (talk) 20:39, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:British prisoners of war (Napoleonic Wars) to Category:British prisoners of war in the Napoleonic Wars – C2C: Sibling category is called Category:Norwegian prisoners of war in the Napoleonic Wars. This category should be British prisoners of war in the Napoleonic Wars MasonGarrison 20:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:13th millennium BC to Category:Millennia, Category:Late Pleistocene, Category:Holocene – C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:33rd century BC to Category:4th millennium BC, Category:Centuries – C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Romani genocide survivors to Category:Romani Holocaust survivors – C2D: per Romani Holocaust. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:602 BC to Category:600s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC – C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:44, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:603 BC to Category:600s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:620 BC to Category:620s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:624 BC to Category:620s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:625 BC to Category:620s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:634 BC to Category:630s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:636 BC to Category:630s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:638 BC to Category:630s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:641 BC to Category:640s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:649 BC to Category:640s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:650 BC to Category:650s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:658 BC to Category:650s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:659 BC to Category:650s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:661 BC to Category:660s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:666 BC to Category:660s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:668 BC to Category:660s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:671 BC to Category:670s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:680 BC to Category:680s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:687 BC to Category:680s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:692 BC to Category:690s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:696 BC to Category:690s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:699 BC to Category:690s BC, Category:Years of the 7th century BC
- Category:518 BC to Category:510s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
- Category:534 BC to Category:530s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
- Category:549 BC to Category:540s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
- Category:566 BC to Category:560s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
- Category:567 BC to Category:560s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
- Category:571 BC to Category:570s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
- Category:576 BC to Category:570s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
- Category:584 BC to Category:580s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
- Category:588 BC to Category:580s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
- Category:592 BC to Category:590s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
- Category:594 BC to Category:590s BC, Category:Years of the 6th century BC
- Category:420 BC to Category:420s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
- Category:431 BC to Category:430s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
- Category:442 BC to Category:440s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
- Category:451 BC to Category:450s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
- Category:462 BC to Category:460s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
- Category:472 BC to Category:470s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
- Category:482 BC to Category:480s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
- Category:488 BC to Category:480s BC, Category:Years of the 5th century BC
- Category:345 BC to Category:340s BC, Category:Years of the 4th century BC
- Category:363 BC to Category:360s BC, Category:Years of the 4th century BC
- Category:372 BC to Category:370s BC, Category:Years of the 4th century BC
- Category:383 BC to Category:380s BC, Category:Years of the 4th century BC
- Category:386 BC to Category:380s BC, Category:Years of the 4th century BC
- Category:244 BC to Category:240s BC, Category:Years of the 3rd century BC
- Category:248 BC to Category:240s BC, Category:Years of the 3rd century BC
- Category:267 BC to Category:260s BC, Category:Years of the 3rd century BC
- Category:288 BC to Category:280s BC, Category:Years of the 3rd century BC
- Category:290 BC to Category:290s BC, Category:Years of the 3rd century BC
- Category:136 BC to Category:130s BC, Category:Years of the 2nd century BC
- Category:142 BC to Category:140s BC, Category:Years of the 2nd century BC
- Category:151 BC to Category:150s BC, Category:Years of the 2nd century BC
- Category:28 BC to Category:20s BC, Category:Years of the 1st century BC
- Category:Prisoner in Los Almendros camp to Category:Inmates of Los Almendros camp – C2C: siblings in Category:Prisoners and detainees by prison follow Inmates of FOO MasonGarrison 13:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:NA-importance Animation articles by work groups to Category:NA-importance Animation pages by work groups – C2C. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose until the code to change is identified We're getting too many problems with these categories being put up for renaming without the templates/modules being changed. These messes need to stop and changes only approved that can be processed properly. Note to closing admin Please do not list this on the working page until the template/module changes have been identified and implemented. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Redirect-Class Disney articles of Low-importance to Category:Redirect-Class Disney pages of Low-importance – C2C: Per Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 7 BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 09:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Redirect-Class Disney articles of NA-importance to Category:Redirect-Class Disney pages of NA-importance
- Category:Redirect-Class Disney articles of Mid-importance to Category:Redirect-Class Disney pages of Mid-importance
- Oppose until the code to change is identified We're getting too many problems with these categories being put up for renaming without the templates/modules being changed. These messes need to stop and changes only approved that can be processed properly. Note to closing admin Please do not list this on the working page until the template/module changes have been identified and implemented. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: I believe this should already be handled by your updates to Module:WikiProject banner? Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have not looked at any of the intersecting categories yet, so if it is working then it is by luck not design. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 05:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: I believe this should already be handled by your updates to Module:WikiProject banner? Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:Events about intersex to Category:Intersex-related events – C2C: Category:Intersex-related works. LIrala (talk) 04:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- @LIrala: it should rather become Category:Intersex events per e.g. Category:Gay events and Category:Transgender events. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Silent film actors to Category:Silent-film actors – C2A: Compound modifier; it's not about film actors (or comedians) that are silent, it's the films they appear in that are silent films. Tagging only the top two levels to begin with. HandsomeFella (talk) 12:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy oppose. I'm not sure this works under the wikipedia hypenation rules. Especially since we have Silent film people as the parent category. MasonGarrison 11:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Silent film comedians to Category:Silent-film comedians
- Category:Silent film actors by nationality to Category:Silent-film actors by nationality
- Category:Silent film actresses to Category:Silent-film actresses
- Category:Male silent film actors to Category:Male silent-film actors
- @HandsomeFella: do you want to take this to full CfD? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes please. HandsomeFella (talk) 20:38, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @HandsomeFella: typically, you do that yourself. See user:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD, which can automate this process :) Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes please. HandsomeFella (talk) 20:38, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @HandsomeFella: do you want to take this to full CfD? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Extinct monotypic bird genera to Category:Prehistoric monotypic bird genera – C2C: a few birds such as the Choiseul pigeon or the broad-billed parrot are contemporarily extinct ; the others are prehistoric ans should be moved to a relevant category (by renaming this one?) --Couiros22 (talk) 12:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Couiros22: not sure that this fits speedy because Category:Extinct animals is a valid category tree too. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- the point is to have a 'prehistoric monotypic bird genera' cat embedded in a 'extinct monotypic bird genera' cat. (we can reput the two examples above into the latter) just as 'prehistoric animals' is embedded in the 'extinct animals' cat. --Couiros22 (talk) 17:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- In that case, just create a new category? - The Bushranger One ping only 20:55, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- the point is to have a 'prehistoric monotypic bird genera' cat embedded in a 'extinct monotypic bird genera' cat. (we can reput the two examples above into the latter) just as 'prehistoric animals' is embedded in the 'extinct animals' cat. --Couiros22 (talk) 17:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that this doesn't really fit WP:C2C. Also, the established naming scheme for this category tree is Category:Monotypic prehistoric animal genera, not Category:Prehistoric monotypic animal genera. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:58, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Couiros22: not sure that this fits speedy because Category:Extinct animals is a valid category tree too. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- Category:Indigenous leaders in South America to Category:Indigenous leaders of South America – C2C: parent is "Indigenous leaders of the Americas", which uses "of" MasonGarrison 18:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: arguably the parent might be renamed to "in". Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Both parents? Indigenous people of South America also uses of MasonGarrison 18:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Right. There is Category:Indigenous leaders in Canada. I guess "in" is technically more correct. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm. That's a good point. I don't have strong opinions about which is used. Should we take this to full to see if someone does? MasonGarrison 19:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Right. There is Category:Indigenous leaders in Canada. I guess "in" is technically more correct. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Both parents? Indigenous people of South America also uses of MasonGarrison 18:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- The parent category has been nominated for renaming in the opposite direction, see Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_December_29#Category:Indigenous_leaders_of_the_Americas. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: arguably the parent might be renamed to "in". Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Possibly fictional pirates to Category:Pirates whose existence is disputed – C2C: parent is People whose existence is disputed MasonGarrison 06:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There are fare more subcategories of Category:People whose existence is disputed that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. Armbrust 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Those are all being renamed to match this parent. Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Possibly fictional people from Europe MasonGarrison 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- In that case we should wait until that is concluded and if it does then we can process this. Armbrust 23:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Those are all being renamed to match this parent. Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Possibly fictional people from Europe MasonGarrison 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There are fare more subcategories of Category:People whose existence is disputed that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. Armbrust 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Stainton, south Cumbria to Category:Stainton, Westmorland and Furness – C2D: Match Stainton, Westmorland and Furness. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose ambiguous with Stainton, Dacre, see User talk:Hey man im josh#Stainton. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Postpone until we know the result of the proposed move of Stainton, Westmorland and Furness. Grutness...wha? 03:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
- Category:Suicides in Ancient Macedonia to Category:Suicides in ancient Macedonia – C2A: "Ancient" not typically capitalized in this way. See Theatre of ancient Greece for example. WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Suicides in Ancient Greece to Category:Suicides in ancient Greece – C2A: "Ancient" not typically capitalized in this way. See Theatre of ancient Greece for example. WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:58, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East – C2A Russian Rocky (talk) 09:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Asia to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Asia
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Israel to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Israel
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Jordan to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Jordan
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Lebanon to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Lebanon
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Syria to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Syria
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Turkey to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Turkey
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Europe to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Europe
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Austria to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Austria
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in France to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in France
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Russia to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Russia
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in the United Kingdom to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in the United Kingdom
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Scotland to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Scotland
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in North America to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in North America
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in the United States to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in the United States
- Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East to Category:Novels set in the ancient Near East
- Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East to Category:Films set in the ancient Near East
- Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East to Category:Sculpture of the ancient Near East
- Category:Ancient near eastern cosmology to Category:Ancient Near Eastern cosmology
- Oppose all needs discussion. Johnbod (talk) 18:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly is your problem, sir? The vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt). Also, "Museums of Ancient Near East" categories are missing the definite article regardless of your preferences ("Museums of the Ancient Near East" or "Museums of the ancient Near East").--Russian Rocky (talk) 21:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm fine with adding "the" - it's "ancient" that needs discussion. If it it is true that "the vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt)" this is only because of recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus. Johnbod (talk) 04:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- So why don't you discuss it on Talk:Ancient Near East instead? To begin with, there is not enough people in CFDs to discuss this matter. Also, what "capitalization fanatics" are you talking about? Are you aware that "Ancient Near East" was changed to "ancient Near East" in 2011 (Talk:Ancient Near East#Capitalization)? Here's an excerpt: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"." Since 2011, nobody has talked about capitalization on Talk:Ancient Near East.
- Except Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East, other categories with no definite article should be renamed in any case. I suggest to stick to "ancient Near East" at first because it's more widespread inspite of your claim about "a handful of capitalization fanatics" (you provided no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and is under discussion). Personally, I don't care whether it is "ancient Near East" or "Ancient Near East", but the current consensus is apparently the former and let's stick to it.--Russian Rocky (talk) 20:38, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Most category and article page names do use lowercase "ancient" in phrases like "ancient Rome" and "ancient Greece" (excluding language designations). See usage throughout the Ancient Rome page, Social class in ancient Rome, Patrician (ancient Rome), Timeline of ancient Greece, Category:Wikipedians interested in ancient Rome, Category:Novels set in ancient Rome, Category:Prosopography of ancient Rome, Category:Wars involving ancient Greece, Category:Battles involving ancient Greece, Category:Culture of ancient Greece, and Category:History books about ancient Greece for examples. I believe we should aim for consistency in article and category names. Many of these pages and categories have had these names for quite some time and were not moved recently. If you would like to use uppercase in phrases like "Ancient Greece", why not propose this at the talk pages of the main pages? WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Russian Rocky: are you planning to move this to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, please. Unfortunately, I can't figure out myself what Johnbod's problem is. He claimed that the vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" because of "recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus", but there is no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and/or is under discussion. I agree with InverseHypercube on Talk:Ancient Near East who said the following: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"."
- See The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (Appendix A: Capitalization and Spelling Examples) at the Internet Archive: p. 153: "ancient Near East (noun)" "ancient Near Eastern (adj.)".--Russian Rocky (talk) 08:32, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Peggy Jay family to Category:Jay-Garnett family - To better summarise the contents as the family is wider than just direct relatives of Peggy Jay. OGBC1992 (talk) 09:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I do not think this is the speedy material. @OGBC1992:, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? Ymblanter (talk) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Ymblanter I am not sure how to take something to CFD if you wouldn't mind assisting? Many thanks. OGBC1992 (talk) 11:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I do not think this is the speedy material. @OGBC1992:, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? Ymblanter (talk) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas to Category:Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas – C2C: parent is Russian military personnel killed in the Russo-Ukrainian War MasonGarrison 14:16, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Smasongarrison I would suggest a full discussion for both categories as the war in Donbas involved Pro-Russian military units rather than only Russian military units and the members of the category are almost all Pro-Russian Ukrainians. Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas is a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas and a grandparent of Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 17:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Why is Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas? Pro-russian is a cause not a nationality. MasonGarrison 19:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas contains Russians and Ukrainians so it is not really a nationality category. TSventon (talk) 19:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then the category should either be renamed to Pro-Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas or purged to only include russian nationals. I personally don't care which way it goes, but the naming isn't consistent. Can you take it to full? MasonGarrison 19:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 20:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted on CFD 2024 Dec 30. Regards, Armbrust 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Done at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 20:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then the category should either be renamed to Pro-Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas or purged to only include russian nationals. I personally don't care which way it goes, but the naming isn't consistent. Can you take it to full? MasonGarrison 19:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas contains Russians and Ukrainians so it is not really a nationality category. TSventon (talk) 19:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Why is Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas? Pro-russian is a cause not a nationality. MasonGarrison 19:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Smasongarrison I would suggest a full discussion for both categories as the war in Donbas involved Pro-Russian military units rather than only Russian military units and the members of the category are almost all Pro-Russian Ukrainians. Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas is a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas and a grandparent of Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 17:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Alvarado wrestling family to Category:Alvarado professional wrestling family – C2C: Per all other subcategories of Category:Professional wrestling families. Mike Selinker (talk) 00:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy The main article is Alvarado wrestling family. Armbrust 06:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Brought up for Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 24#Category:Alvarado wrestling family.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted on CFD 2025 Jan 1. Armbrust 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Brought up for Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 24#Category:Alvarado wrestling family.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy The main article is Alvarado wrestling family. Armbrust 06:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Neapolitan families to Category:Families of Naples – C2C: Per other categories in Category:Italian families. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for speedy, we should discuss whether Category:Families from the Kingdom of Naples is perhaps a better target. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed and brought up for full discussion.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted on CFD 2025 Jan 1. Armbrust 19:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed and brought up for full discussion.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for speedy, we should discuss whether Category:Families from the Kingdom of Naples is perhaps a better target. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Ceylon to Category:Chief secretaries of Ceylon – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 07:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Sierra Leone to Category:Colonial secretaries of Sierra Leone
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Cyprus to Category:Colonial secretaries of Cyprus
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Fiji to Category:Colonial secretaries of Fiji
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Gibraltar to Category:Colonial secretaries of Gibraltar
- Category:Chief Secretaries of the Gold Coast (British colony) to Category:Chief secretaries of the Gold Coast (British colony)
- Category:Chief Secretaries for Ireland to Category:Chief secretaries for Ireland
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Kenya to Category:Chief secretaries of Kenya
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Mauritius to Category:Colonial secretaries of Mauritius
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of New South Wales to Category:Colonial secretaries of New South Wales
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of New Zealand to Category:Colonial secretaries of New Zealand
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Nigeria to Category:Chief secretaries of Nigeria
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Northern Rhodesia to Category:Chief secretaries of Northern Rhodesia
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Palestine to Category:Chief secretaries of Palestine
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Singapore to Category:Chief secretaries of Singapore
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Tasmania to Category:Colonial secretaries of Tasmania
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Transjordan to Category:Chief secretaries of Transjordan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Western Australia to Category:Colonial secretaries of Western Australia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- oppose as per MOS:JOBTITLES They are capitalized only in the following cases: When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself the category is addressing the position in and of itself. This applies to all the other listed categories as well Gnangarra 11:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- The job titles are in plural, and we do not capitalize in such cases (see: "When a formal title for a specific entity... is not plural..."). Similar categories have also been moved to use lowercase based on this (e.g., Category:Vice presidents of the United States, categories under Category:Defense ministers by country, categories under Category:Governors-general, and categories under Category:Deputy prime ministers; see also articles like List of secretaries of state of the United States, List of secretaries general of the Western European Union, etc.) WikiEditor50 (talk) 17:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiEditor50: are you planning to move these to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. Yes, please do WikiEditor50 (talk) 12:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- oppose as per MOS:JOBTITLES They are capitalized only in the following cases: When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself the category is addressing the position in and of itself. This applies to all the other listed categories as well Gnangarra 11:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Prince Edward Island to Category:Colonial secretaries of Prince Edward Island – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Newfoundland to Category:Colonial secretaries of Newfoundland – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Bermuda to Category:Colonial secretaries of Bermuda – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Barbados to Category:Colonial secretaries of Barbados – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of the Bahamas to Category:Colonial secretaries of the Bahamas – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Chief Secretaries of British Guiana to Category:Chief secretaries of British Guiana – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Provincial Mayors of Cusco Province to Category:Provincial mayors of Cusco province – C2D: Cusco province. Also C2A with MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
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