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| Thanks for your edits: I find them reasonable. Please tell me, what does this mean, in plain language: | |||
| "legal status... explains one-half to two-thirds of the observed differences in crime rates between legal and illegal immigrants" | |||
| I do not understand it. ] (]) 15:10, 16 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| There's a gap in crime rate between legal and illegal immigrants. The authors show that much of the additional offending (one-half to two-thirds of the gap) that illegal immigrants do can be explained by the fact that they don't have legal status. The post-EU enlargement experiment shows that simply giving a group legal status reduces the crime rate. | |||
| You could draw an analogy from epidemiology. You have group A and B. Group A suffers from higher rates of illness X. Researchers then find that the differences in illness rates is because group A lives in a high-pollution area. Pollution explains one-half to two-thirds of the observed differences in illness X between group A and B. Had group A lived in group B's area, the illness rate would much lower. ] (]) 15:34, 16 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Hey, noob! == | |||
| Don't start an edit war with me. Not everyone thinks Morsi's impeachment was a "coup." Stop reverting my edits, man! ] (]) 17:39, 20 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Using the definition of a coup from the political science literature and finding support in coup datasets collected by political scientists, Egypt 2013 is uncontroversially a coup. ] (]) 17:42, 20 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :I agree with Snooganssnoogans, your edits seem biased. Please discuss on talk page first.. ] (]) 19:39, 20 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::You should check the edits he's made on other pages where he's pushing his POV and notify senior editors (?) or the admins of it. He's compromising a bunch of wiki articles. I don't know how to fix all those edits and prevent future similar edits. Thanks. ] (]) 19:57, 20 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| : Thanks for the caution. I wasn't aware it was a rule. I'll be more cautious from now on. Every edit was well-justified (and the page is highly active, which explains the number of reversals) but this is something I'll have to keep in mind. ] (]) 12:43, 22 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::Okay, thanks. I'm going to try and spend some more time at this article, and look forward to editing with you some more. Since you weren't familiar with the 3rr rule, I want to also mention ]. While you may personally think Trump is a no-good lying sonofabitch, and I may think he's a smart and qualified leader, the object of editing is to just be neutral and not try to slant things for him or against him. Maybe you already knew that, but I thought it was worth mentioning just in case. Cheers.] (]) 05:29, 3 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| == Mike Pence image == | |||
| shows that you tried to make some changes to the image in the Earmarks section. You got the <nowiki>]</nowiki> out of balance and you can see the results . Unfortunately, it was not clear what you were trying to do at that time. I suspect you wanted to shorten the caption. I restored the original image and its caption. | |||
| I don't have a strong opinion on it but believe we don't need that image in the article as it's not related to any of the text in the area. --]|] 05:19, 16 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| : I honestly don't remember having edited anything related to earmarks or a picture. I had no intention to edit it if I did. You're free to fix my edits related to the picture. ] (]) 13:08, 16 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Hello there! I noticed your removing the ] from ]. I stumbled upon the article while sifting through ] ] articles. You will not be surprised to hear that I have no background in international relations. Since it sounds like you do have more experience in this area, if you think the Canadian Foreign Policy Journal is not notable enough to have its own article, perhaps you might consider ]. Thanks a bunch! Happy editing! ] (]) 03:48, 18 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Why did you delete my edit COMPLETELY? == | |||
| can't deal with other opinions? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:54, 18 July 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| still no answer] (]) 15:21, 22 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Has this edit appropriately addressed your objections? == | |||
| I supplied the citation you requested, restoring the original text and the addition you requested to the Tim Canova article, as follows. Does this meet your standards, or if not can you suggest an edit which would?<blockquote>After Wikileaks released hacked Democratic National Committee emails that confirmed that some DNC staffers had conspired against the ], Representative Wasserman Schultz tendered her resignation as the head of the DNC, effective as of the close of the nomination convention in Philadelphia.<ref>, '']'', Jonathan Martin and Alan Rappeport, July 24, 2016. Retrieved 25 July 2016.</ref> Canova has asserted that he found his own name in about 70 emails in the WikiLeaks-DNC database. He claimed that DNC staff appeared to be acting in a partisan way to promote Wasserman Schultz’s own reelection effort and that she may have violated campaign finance laws.<ref name=":1">, '']'', Marc Caputo and Daniel Strauss, July 24, 2016. Retrieved 25 July 2016.</ref></blockquote> Thanks. ] (]) 16:07, 25 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| : I'm fine with it, though with the exception that we should add a link to the end of every sentence. There is no harm in it, and my experience is that this page will get shuffled in the future (as editors add content or rewrite existing content), which makes it much more convenient to each sentence sourced. ] (]) 16:11, 25 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks. I'll change the period after "database" to a comma. ] (]) 17:28, 25 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| == A barnstar for you! == | |||
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| : Thank you for the kind words. ] (]) 18:25, 27 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| SteveStrummer has been reported for edit-warring. I'm watching. ] (]) 19:39, 27 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, I have to commend you for adding the polling data, putting that 7% in better perspective. I did correct the spelling in your edit, however. I'm not sure how to address you: Would it be by your first name, "Snoogans," (or would that be too familiar?), or your last, "snoogans?" (I'm also assuming you're not East Asian, with the convention there being "family name, given name," of course.) 06:15, 3 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :: Snoogans works. I also go by Snooch or Snooch to the nooch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4TAL58-tKE ] (]) 10:37, 3 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Hi. There are comments for you on the page, again. You are probably aware that consequent to your decision to ask for a full-page protect, I have asked for you to be banned from the thread. I mean no harm in doing so, I believe there is a consensus developing that the neutrality of the page is problematic, and I've done the research to see that you are the most active reverter of neutralizing content. Today's example of the gorilla that you insist on keeping is just symptomatic. I'm sorry, but I have felt the need to take a stand against what's happening on this page. Couldn't you just let others "defend" the page in your stead? ] (]) 02:15, 19 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :The administrator who reviewed your full-protect request suggested filing a case . Since this seems to be the endgame you are playing for anyway, I have gone forward with the complaint for the sake of what I perceive to be the wikipedia community and the current consensus on the page.] (]) 02:25, 20 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::A new version of the complaint has been added. ] (]) 10:24, 20 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Hillary truthful in interview == | |||
| Snoogans, hypothetically would you support adding the following to the email controversy section in Hillary's bio: | |||
| In an interview with Fox News in late July, Clinton stated “Director Comey said my answers were truthful, and what I’ve said is consistent with what I have told the American people, that there were decisions discussed and made to classify retroactively certain of the emails.” PolitiFact awarded Clinton four "Pinocchios", its worst rating, for her statement saying "While Comey did say there was no evidence she lied to the FBI, that is not the same as saying she told the truth to the American public." | |||
| Would you consider it appropriate to add both Clinton's statement and the interpretation? Thanks.] (]) 18:41, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| : I do. ] (]) 18:51, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ==Re: your recent post on ]== | |||
| I don't like to mention sanctions, or indeed to mention users, on article talk, but I thought you might like to know that I have topic banned the user in question for ignoring the discretionary sanctions in force for the article. I think perhaps he doesn't understand them; but that's too bad, since his reverts tend to make it impossible for other people (who do abide by the sanctions) to revert ''him''. ] | ] 14:30, 5 August 2016 (UTC). | |||
| : Thank you. ] (]) 14:35, 5 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Baraka == | |||
| Please refrain from editing the summary of Mr. Baraka's article. Careful reading of the paragraph (and the article) makes it clear that the "weasel words" you don't like in the original article (i.e. by the author) have their place in the description of the article. | |||
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| ] (]) 18:00, 7 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| In June 2014, Baraka pointed out contradictions in the traditional narrative that the West was going after Bashar al-Assad's regime because it was a brutal dictatorship, saying that this notion was "carefully cultivated by Western state propagandists and dutifully disseminated by their auxiliaries in the corporate media." | |||
| The article as it was written originally made no sense at all. Any chance of recuperating what he's getting at needs to be the result of a fairly precise transcription and cannot rely on gross approximations that are not textually warranted. (There are other clearer citations, but I did not wish to delete a citation.) | |||
| ] (]) 18:08, 7 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Could you please explain why you added a reference to a Telesur article to highlight something presumably negative about Mr. Baraka and then complained when positive elements in the same article were used? Your claim that Telesur "is not a reliable secondary source. it's the Venezuelan state propaganda network." would seem to only hold for positive statements, but when you can cut 3 words out of a much longer sentence, it's ok? | |||
| Again, I appreciate your efforts, but let's try to remain balanced and not complain about an editor using the same article you did, huh?] (]) 19:54, 9 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| : The "uncle tom" statement was once on the article but sourced a facebook post and was consequently removed. While Telesur is bad, they don't invent quotes from nothing, so it is sufficient for that. Most of Baraka's writings and coverage are on poor sources, so his wikipedia page will unfortunately have to rely on them until reliable secondary sources (such as Politico) start to cover him. ] (]) 00:10, 10 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| : I appreciate your honesty concerning your bias. That you would consider a recently graduated free-lance journalist a more reputable source than the various foundations that have honored him seems strange to me, and I would ask you to reflect on this. Surely you would consider the UN Secretary General a reputable source, right? "In 1998, Baraka was honored by UN Secretary General Kofi Annan as one of 300 human rights defenders from around the world who were brought together at the Palais de Chaillot in Paris to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights." ] (]) 00:51, 10 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :: If you have a reliable secondary source about Baraka getting invited by Annan, sure include it. ] (]) 00:52, 10 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :: It's already cited (reference number 3). I have decided that the wikipedian who called for deleting the op-ed article from Politico ("What If the Green Party Stopped Being Kooky and Started Getting Real?") is correct. If you wish to add it back, please do so only in a new section related to post-nomination op-eds. I have also deleted the sentence from Telesur I added to provide balance, since without the "fringe views" attack it is unnecessary. Let's let people make their own decisions and remain humble concerning someone whose achievements are clearly greater than our own (or at least my own). The only remaining reference to Telesur is the one you yourself introduced. You may do what you wish with that (but I gather you would prefer that it remain). Before making any reverts concerning the introductory paragraph in writings, please seek consensus on the talk page. Thanks! ] (]) 01:56, 10 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == About Jill Stein == | |||
| Hello, | |||
| You just erased what I had written, saying it was "elsewhere", could you tell me where is this "elsewhere", please! Thanks in advance. Claudi/] (]) 18:16, 7 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| : It is in section paragraph of the 'Foreign policy' subsection. Note that I only erased the content that was already covered. For the content that was not covered, I added it to that section with a slight re-write.] (]) 18:18, 7 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :: Thanks, I hadn't seen this before! Take care and have a great Sunday! Claudi/] (]) 18:28, 7 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::Snooganssnoogans, since you mentioned that you haven't spent much time looking at policies, my suggestion for one to prioritize reading would be the policy on ]. (Some of the things listed there you already do quite well, such as appealing to common sense and suggesting alternatives.) Scrolling down that page a bit, it lists all the different avenues you can follow when a good faith attempt to persuade an editor you consider problematic does not result in progress toward consensus. Those links will direct you to instructions for requesting page protection properly, but that is just one option among many. Scrolling down further you will find commentary on what defines "consensus" and how that might change over time. Some of your comments along the lines of "this issue has already been discussed and resolved so it can't be changed" strike me as in tension with this commentary, but you may disagree (and I may be misunderstanding your comments without fully understanding the context and history of the page). ] (]) 19:33, 18 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Thank you. I'll give that a read. I've never experienced constant disruptive editing from an editor before, so I've never had to cite rules. Common sense and a mutual acceptance of what's reasonable tends to be enough. ] (]) 22:08, 18 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| Next, a warning for your regular non-neutral edits on the same page (example given with your partial citation concerning NATO and partial citations concerning Ajamu Baraka. Contrary to the warning, I would appreciate that you yourself provide the full citations. | |||
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