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Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.{{efn|The number of weekly reviews reported in the NPP feed includes redirects, which are not included in the backlog we primarily track.}} | |||
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Hi, this is Wazzup Carl[REDACTED] editor in Philippines. I wanna be your friend and I help you to protect your page created (International State College of the Philippines) | |||
for vandalism and anonymously act. :> ] (]) 10:20, 10 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping| Wazzup Carl}}: Hello! Thank you and this is very much appreciated. Anyways, nakapag-request na rin ako ng page temporary semi-protection so the IP users won't be able to edit the article anymore, para 'di na rin tayo mahirapan kaaayos. On a side note, which ISCP campus are you currently "studying"? From Biringan here. :DD ~<span style="background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 10:23, 10 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
ok tinanggal ko muna yun sa notes brother, kausap ko kase yung gumawa ng ISCP. ] (]) 10:28, 10 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
do you have a facebook account, para makontak kita at mag usap about sa wiki page. ] (]) 10:33, 10 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
@PogingJuan I'm not from biringan brother sa Rizal ako nag aaral (ICCT Colleges) ] (]) 10:41, 10 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
@PogingJuan:: kinausap ako non nag-create ng Facebook pages ng ISCP at Supreme E-Youth Government na sana may article den siya but not now kase need den niya ng references at hindi basta basta pede gumawa ng article page na hindi kabilang sa mga advertising or anything. ] (]) 10:44, 10 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
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::If you think this is better now, you can restart it at userspace, for example: User:PogingJuan/Article or User:PogingJuan/Suntukan sa Ace Hardware. However the case simply seems to be too local and otherwise not convincing for any lasting notability and this was apparently only localized to that local store. Even if you say it's an "Internet phenomenon" and has been known, the article is still questionable and would perhaps read instead like a guide for that event and the "Response" section is particularly not helping either. It was also apparently "fictitious" and never actually happened nearly 2 months ago so even if it was a known "Internet meme", there's nothing else to suggest it's anything else than an apparently planned event. ] ] 17:12, 6 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
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And you are using completely nonsensical CSD criteria that don't fit the articles you are tagging. I'm really beginning to wonder about your competency as an editor here on the project and whether or not you need a forced break from editing while you review Misplaced Pages's deletion policies. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 05:38, 18 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
Ok. Please help me understand. If Tesoro is his grandfather on the paternal side, then his father would have been Tesoro, and he would have been Christopher Lawrence Tesoro. If on maternal side, which is more likely given that his surname is Go, his mother's surname should be Tesoro. Hence, Christopher Lawrence Tesoro Go.--] (]) 15:41, 5 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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Thank you for considering! ] (]) 17:20, 24 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
I want you to be clear on what you are getting into. By agreeing to an interaction ban with the other editor, you are agreeing to conditions such as those listed at ] and could have no further interaction with them(such as nominating articles they create for AFD). Are you prepared for this? I'm also not sure if {{u|Joe Roe}} would like to see anything else. ] (]) 09:25, 29 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
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:As long as it is two-way, then my agreeing won't have any reservations. ~<span style="background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 05:32, 30 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
::I don't think the other editor wants to interact with you, but right now we're just talking about you. I don't see a need to log a formal ban on the other editor at this time absent evidence that they are harassing you. ] (]) 11:24, 30 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
The concern with the absolute one-way ] lies with the fact on the possibility of them, for example, undo-ing my edit or contest his edit on my edit, reply to them on a possible discussion (of any sort) they will bring in the future. Such things, with ] will definitely bring me in a disadvantaged position. ~<span style="background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 11:39, 30 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
{{ping|331dot}}: my reply above ~<span style="background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 11:41, 30 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
:Do you anticipate a high likelihood of that occurring? From what I see there was little if any interaction between the two of you prior to October 16th. If it did, you could request a ban on them later. ] (]) 13:47, 30 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
::Sure. ~<span style="background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 13:50, 30 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
*{{u|Joe Roe}}, {{u|Liz}}, do you have any additional concerns if an Iban is put in place? ] (]) 14:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
*:I'm not too sure. These were retaliatory edits rather than any sort of genuine dispute, so should absolutely be a one-way IBAN. That PogingJuan apparently doesn't see this would suggest that he isn't really acknowledging what the problem was. Then again, as long as he sticks to the IBAN and doesn't do the same thing with other editors, that doesn't matter. {{ping|Onel5969}} do you have anything to say? – ] <small>(])</small> 08:15, 31 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
*::I would disagree to a two-way IBAN, as I have done nothing wrong to warrant such an action. In my years of editing on WP, I've never been accused of retaliatory actions. In some of my activities on WP, I may come across this editor, such as what happened to prompt their retaliatory actions. At NPP, if I come across one of their articles, I will review their article just like any other article, fairly, and solely with an eye on WP policies and guidelines. I do not seek this editor out, nor have I in the past. In fact, I was unaware this was still an issue until I received Joe's ping above. ] <sup>]</sup> 10:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
*I would be concerned with unblocking. It's less that I think PogingJuan is likely to violate the IBAN (which obviously should be 1-way). It's more that they've still not set out their thought process that led them from "this person has redirected an article I made" to "clearly I should AfD a whole bunch of their articles rather than any other option" - and, more relevantly, why we would think they will be any better at dealing with conflict in the future. Until they have considered that aspect, I wouldn't back any unblock. ] (]) 00:07, 4 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|Nosebagbear}} The ''issue'' was already acknowledged. It's as if I wanna be blocked again for "AfDing a whole bunch of their articles that ACTUALLY doesn't adhere to ] (and were deleted eventually after the second nomination by other users)" after "that person has redirected a properly-sourced article I made, instead of just putting notability tag or even AfDing it". Of course, it will be avoided in the future. ~<span style="background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 17:31, 11 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
::{{ping|PogingJuan}} {{ping|Nosebagbear}} A redirect is a procedural step of ], and your article indeed had some issues that still merit a notability tag. Of course by {{tq|properly-sourced}} you mean that it meets ], but is borderline at ] (as a student union is described as a {{tq|student organisation}} per the Misplaced Pages page, so NORG probably applies here). Moreover, you have not successfully explained other issues- your demonstrably inaccurate A11 nominations, reprodding an article after it has been deprodded, and repeatedly misusing rollback to revert good-faith edits without any explanation. Would you acknowledge these mistakes as well? Many thanks! '''] '''] 20:28, 11 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
{{ping|VickKiang}} Then, the notability tag must have been placed in the first place, instead of just redirecting it. The NPP user haven't even provided explanations for the redirect, when they must have put it—they just deleted it and put a redirect, when the NPP role has the feature to put "notability tags", among others. Meanwhile, the A11 nomination was under the assumption of "the user discovered the place" (i.e. discovered the place and just put up an article of it without any further verifying its notability), not "invented" or "made up", bec definitely they weren't invented or made up. It was proven, though, at the AfDs consensus that some of those articles made by the same user could just be redirected to another article. Some of them were even overlapping. On another note, the rollback issue "might have been misused" (I couldn't honestly remember when or what edits I have used that feature), but definitely, it was in good faith, too. All issues, acknowledged. ~<span style="background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 04:43, 12 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
:{{tq|Meanwhile, the A11 nomination was under the assumption of "the user discovered the place" (i.e. discovered the place and just put up an article of it without any further verifying its notability), not "invented" or "made up", bec definitely they weren't invented or made up. It was proven, though, at the AfDs consensus that some of those articles made by the same user could just be redirected to another article.}} The A11 is absolutely incorrect IMO, as pointed out by {{u|Liz}}, that an article that ends up being deleted/redirected by AfD doesn't mean it qualifies CSD. | |||
: {{tq|The NPP user haven't even provided explanations for the redirect, when they must have put it—they just deleted it and put a redirect, when the NPP role has the feature to put "notability tags", among others}}- the redirect section does say that {{tq|The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. In many cases a redirect may be more appropriate. Converting an article to a redirect without prior discussion is allowed and is not tendentious editing so long as proper BRD procedure is followed. Non notable schools, for example, can be redirected to the school district article (US), or to the locality article (rest of the world), with a very brief mention. Convincing the creator is however occasionally challenging; in the case of a redirect reversal, the solution is either draftify or AfD.}} While it might have been better to leave a detailed note, that edit is not vandalism/obviously disruptive etc... to merit a rollback. '''] '''] 04:46, 12 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
::{{tq|the user discovered the place}} is a significant misinterpretation of A11. A geographic place not legally recognised but still occasionally very trivially mentioned by ] does not fall under ]. '''] '''] 04:47, 12 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
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1.) Upon learning that the A11 was incorrect, I immediately stopped tagging A11s and just put up AfDs for articles with "the same templating and sourcing". If I didn't acknowledge that "A11 mistakes", the articles would have been mass-A11ed, not mass-AfDed. | |||
2.) Oh, so that was the one I have used the rollback. Well, I have assumed that that was vandalism bec it was emptied with redirect without putting the reason, especially, the article, even with notability issues, is still properly sourced. It's not just right to blank it without a reason, especially when "you also created articles that are definitely qualified for deletion" (thus, the AfD). I mean, there's a reason of the edit summary existing. But alright. ~<span style="background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 04:58, 12 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
:{{tq|you also created articles that are definitely qualified for deletion}}- I dunno if editors should try to trace inappropriate articles other created five years ago, but at least it's good that you are acknowledging that these A11s are invalid. Thanks. '''] '''] 05:01, 12 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
{{ping|VickKiang}} The block reason I can't acknowledge, though, upon seeing the block log, is "disruptive editing". Again, no one has engaged in disruptive editing, the reason made me look as if I'm not here to contribute, which is not true. The action might have been "hounding" (although still debatable as there was a "constructive reason" for the AfDs and not merely because they blanked an article I made for no stated reason). I didn't respond to the senseless ANI of Onel5659 because it would be a time waster; I just stopped mass-AfDing the articles WORTHY of deletion. Why do the admins still have to block me when I just voted "delete" on the second AfD nomination? IMO, the first AfD nominations must not have been closed procedurally on the time that the discussions were already going on. The AfDs closer stated it's to "send a message to me" but actually that "message" is senseless—senseless on the grounds that why did they have to disrupt the ongoing objective AfD discussion nominated by a user whom they have problem with, when they can just warn the user and let the objective discussion continue? | |||
The block reason ("disruptive editing") aimed to diminish my contributions on English Misplaced Pages, just because I AfDed a certain user's articles that were definitely qualified for deletion. If there's something I completely agree I was mistaken, it was to mass-AfD; there could have been no problems if I just AfDed 1 or 2 articles of the same template. The admins who were involved in this blocking (i.e. ] and ]) were not even responding. Their views as initiators of this block must be heard, otherwise, what—will this block not be lifted indefinitely? ~<span style="background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 06:15, 12 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
:I would be interested in {{u|Liz}}'s opinion here as well, however, you mass-AfDed numerous articles one minute after another. I'd be interested to hear how could you perform a full ] search in such a short time (I'm probably regarded as doing a too quick ] search to some, that usually just searches a couple of other related websites in addition to the bare minimum, but I still usually need five minutes. Therefore, I'd be interested how you were able to draw a conclusion so promptly and where you researched prior to the mass AfD. '''] '''] 06:45, 12 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
:Based on the above, I don't support unblocking you, even with an IBAN. You are refusing to acknowledge the reasons for block, ] instead of focusing on your conduct, and give every indication that you will continue to treat Misplaced Pages like a ]. – ] <small>(])</small> 15:28, 12 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
{{ping|Joe Roe}} I've already acknowledged the issue already even before this block. I'm not really complaining about the other user, I was explaining the context of why did I AfD. | |||
"Continue to treat Misplaced Pages like a battleground?" Just because I had a contention with a certain user doesn't mean I will treat Misplaced Pages like a battleground. Just because I had a contention with another user doesn't mean my purpose in this wiki realm is just to "edit disruptively". The administrators may look at my contributions and from there, tell me if my real intention was just to "edit disruptively" instead of "contributing to the encyclopedia." | |||
Is there really a need of me "absolutely nodding 'yes'" to whatever the blocking administrator says just to appease him? Is the acknowledgment that I will refrain from doing such actions again ++ the IBAN not enough? Do I really have to show an emotion like the one in "pleading emoji"? | |||
C'mon, this was my first block because of a contention since the creation of this account in 2016. Why is there a prejudice from the blocking administrator that by expressing my thoughts, then suddenly "I will treat Misplaced Pages like a battleground"? Doesn't the blocking administrator think after this block is lifted, the user who has been consistently contributing to Misplaced Pages with Philippine-related articles will be more cautious with his further actions because he cannot afford to be indefinitely blocked again? Why are you guys acting like that this blocked user is "not clearly here to contribute to Misplaced Pages"? Why don't you even test the IBAN first? ~<span style="background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 17:04, 12 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
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{{unblock reviewed |1=This unblock is to acknowledge the reason of being blocked four months ago. After some time being outside Misplaced Pages (due to the block), I have once again read the discussions and criticisms regarding the block. Truly, it is wrong to solely and unusually target other users' created articles and nominate them for deletion (even if these are truly qualified for ANI) after having their article nominated for deletion, as these actions obviously show grudge "to get back" and is in, any way, unhealthy to the Misplaced Pages community. This user promises to avoid such crass behavior in the future, not only in this platform but in any careers he will go through. I am now, once again, inclined to contribute articles (ones that had been on my mind since the block) that can help the general public whenever they'll need it. ~<span style="background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 15:14, 25 February 2023 (UTC) |decline = I'm declining this unblock request because it does not appear that the requestor is responding to questions here. Rosguill below asked for clarification, and received none. Please file a new request if you wish to be unblocked. ]] 16:39, 5 May 2023 (UTC)}} | |||
{{ping|Joe Roe}} {{ping|Liz}} Please reconsider, thank you. 12:54, 27 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
:Can you explain what you mean by {{tq| (even if these are truly qualified for ANI)}} in your unblock statement? <sub>signed, </sub>] <sup>]</sup> 04:13, 6 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Copyright problem on ASEAN Federation of Engineering Organizations
Content you added to the above article appears to have been copied from http://afeo.org/, which is not released under a compatible license. Copying text directly from a source is a violation of Misplaced Pages's copyright policy. Unfortunately, for copyright reasons, a small amount of text had to be removed. Content you add to Misplaced Pages should be written in your own words. Please let me know if you have any questions. — Diannaa (talk) 21:58, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Diannaa: Yup I know and "copyright violations" were not meant. I have been working on Misplaced Pages for I think, around 12 hours already (with creation of more than 10 articles, etc.). Some of the new articles I have created are actually still under construction. Definitely will be paraphrasing and improving the newly-created articles within the day or next (after sleep, at most). This is well noted. ~PogingJuan 22:10, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
San Joaquin-Kalawaan High School moved to draftspace
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School articles
Hi, whether the articles are made in good faith or not is not the issue. Nor is COI. I've noticed that Nagpayong High School, Santolan High School, Sagad High School and Kapitolyo High School have also been tagged as possibly not meeting notability guidelines either (by a different user - not by me). All of them are sourced only to an exhaustive database for schools so they do not demonstratively meet WP:NORG, which requires significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. I've noticed that you created all 9 articles within 45 minutes as well, please take more time. There is no rush. Spiderone 12:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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Communist armed conflicts in the Philippines
Hi. First of all, thanks for your work on the NatDem related pages. Since it's clear you are more familiar with the subject than I am, I am thankful for your contributions. Second, though, could I please ask for your opinion on the material I've put on Communist armed conflicts in the Philippines? I wanted to make sure that I've maintained NPOV, but also aptly represented the major players, whether re-affirmist, rejectionist, or otherwise. Also, given that I drew most of the material there from a hodgepodge of ND related wiki articles, I wanted to make sure that I didn't add an organization there which doesn't actually have an armed conflict component. Would you mind taking a look? Thanks! - Chieharumachi (talk) 13:50, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, this is Wazzup Carl[REDACTED] editor in Philippines. I wanna be your friend and I help you to protect your page created (International State College of the Philippines) for vandalism and anonymously act. :> Wazzup Carl (talk) 10:20, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Wazzup Carl:: Hello! Thank you and this is very much appreciated. Anyways, nakapag-request na rin ako ng page temporary semi-protection so the IP users won't be able to edit the article anymore, para 'di na rin tayo mahirapan kaaayos. On a side note, which ISCP campus are you currently "studying"? From Biringan here. :DD ~PogingJuan 10:23, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
ok tinanggal ko muna yun sa notes brother, kausap ko kase yung gumawa ng ISCP. Wazzup Carl (talk) 10:28, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
do you have a facebook account, para makontak kita at mag usap about sa wiki page. Wazzup Carl (talk) 10:33, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
@PogingJuan I'm not from biringan brother sa Rizal ako nag aaral (ICCT Colleges) Wazzup Carl (talk) 10:41, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
@PogingJuan:: kinausap ako non nag-create ng Facebook pages ng ISCP at Supreme E-Youth Government na sana may article den siya but not now kase need den niya ng references at hindi basta basta pede gumawa ng article page na hindi kabilang sa mga advertising or anything. Wazzup Carl (talk) 10:44, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
@Wazzup Carl:: palapag ng facebook acc mo and i'll message u agad. ~PogingJuan 10:48, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
@PogingJuan:: Carl T. Delos Arcos Wazzup Carl (talk) 10:49, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
@Wazzup Carl:: messaged u on messenger. ~PogingJuan 10:52, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
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ASAP. They cause Linter errors and we don't want such errors. I strongly advise you to change your signature before signing so that I won't have to edit your talk page again to fix them. Sheep (talk) 17:56, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
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AFDs
Hello, PogingJuan,
Is there a reason why you created dozens of separate AFD pages instead of doing one bundled nomination that included them all? You're unlikely to get much participation from AFD regulars who now will have to visit dozens of pages rather than reviewing your deletion rationale in one location. This is really not how AFDs are done and you really did too much too fast. You should have tested the waters with one AFD nomination on an Arizona town instead of doing dozens at once. Liz 05:28, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- Apparently, the user is notorious for creating articles about non-notable locations, lacking in depth of independent reliable sources. Some of them were already deleted: click here. ~PogingJuan 05:42, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
PRODs & CSDs
Hello, PogingJuan,
Once a PROD tag has been removed for a good reason or for NO REASON AT ALL, it can not be PROD'd again. It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with the reason it was removed. Do not ever add back a PROD tag to an article or file where it has been removed.
And you are using completely nonsensical CSD criteria that don't fit the articles you are tagging. I'm really beginning to wonder about your competency as an editor here on the project and whether or not you need a forced break from editing while you review Misplaced Pages's deletion policies. Liz 05:38, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- Liz, these appear to be retaliation for this edit I made while reviewing their article. Onel5969 09:43, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Polytechnic University of the Philippines Student Council
I've been reviewing Polytechnic University of the Philippines Student Council, am still looking at notability but some of the words are IMHO puffery. It represents the diversified interests of the students on the university, national, and global issues
- this might be puffery and I couldn't find any independent ref linked in the refs that use the word "diversified", a citation usually isn't needed per MOS:LEAD but I couldn't see this discussed in the body. Apologies if I missed one, but could you provide it? Further, looking at the page history, I'm afraid that I couldn't understand how this diff, per Misplaced Pages:Rollback is obviously vandalism or widespread edits (by a misguided editor or malfunctioning bot) unhelpful to the encyclopedia, provided that you supply an explanation in an appropriate location
. If you could elaborate on these two questions that would be great, and many thanks for your work and time! VickKiang (talk) 06:25, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- Update: Thanks for the removal! VickKiang (talk) 06:50, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
AFD's
Good morning. While having your work questioned during the review process can be aggravating, retaliatory deletion nominations is not the proper way to go. I suggest you go through those nominations and speedy close all of them, so as to save countless hours of other editor's time. Onel5969 10:26, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Elijah San Fernando
Hello PogingJuan,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Elijah San Fernando for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!
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Arthistorian1977 (talk) 10:27, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
ANI Discussion
There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Onel5969 11:13, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of Elijah San Fernando for deletion
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Signature Linter Errors
Hey! Your current signature (seen below) is producing Linter errors - specifically 3 Obselete HTML Tag errors.
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Consider changing it to the following below. The visual look of the signature won't change, but it'll avoid any linter errors in the future.
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Thanks. Aidan9382 (talk) 10:34, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Advice
Going through a run of nominations of articles created by someone with whom you've been in conflict is likely to attract adverse attention, especially when the responses don't show any sign of having investigating the matter. Mangoe (talk) 15:38, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
October 2022
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for contravening Misplaced Pages's harassment policy. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. – Joe (talk) 12:48, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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Request reason:
@Joe Roe: No one's harassing nobody. No AFDs from me have been created since ANI. AfD votes were given objectively, agreeing to the respective AfD nominators. Even the initial nominations from me were legitimate nominations for AfDs, not harassment. Most of those articles subjected for deletion were single-sourced. Really templated.
Decline reason:
This does not seem to be the community's verdict on your actions. — Daniel Case (talk) 06:39, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
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@Daniel Case: You may want to look at the discussions of Arizona-related AfDs I have started. Majority of them were voted "delete" until "closed procedurally". After the community has agreed that there was WP:HARASS committed, together with the procedural closure of those AfDs, I have never nominated Arizona-related articles again. Can't I even participate on the AfDs re-nomination by another users? ~PogingJuan 11:04, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, PogingJuan,
- The problem isn't that you participated in AfDs. It's that the only AfDs you either nominated or voted in were nominations or delete votes on articles created by the same editor. Your sole focus was on articles on small towns in Arizona written by one editor when you had previously had an editing focus on subjects regarding the Philippines. You didn't participate in AFDs on any other subject so it wasn't a general interest in involving yourselves in deletion discussions, just deletion discussions on articles by one editor. Whether you were nominating for deletion or voting Delete, you weren't focused on eliminating articles of poor quality in general, just ones by one editor. This is very obvious harassment. I think the only way you could be unblocked is to accept an interaction ban and have no further involvement with this editor's work. And if this situation occurs with a different editor, I don't expect you could ever get unblocked. You need to learn to hand disagreements with editors in a healthier way than targeting their work. All editors experience other people reverting some of our edits, you can't let it become a long-lasting grudge. Liz 00:20, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Liz: I'm accepting the concession. ~PogingJuan 01:15, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
PogingJuan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
The user agrees with Liz's concession.
Decline reason:
I am unwilling to unblock against the wishes of the blocking admin, but even if I were, I agree with their reasoning. 331dot (talk) 15:40, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
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I want you to be clear on what you are getting into. By agreeing to an interaction ban with the other editor, you are agreeing to conditions such as those listed at WP:IBAN and could have no further interaction with them(such as nominating articles they create for AFD). Are you prepared for this? I'm also not sure if Joe Roe would like to see anything else. 331dot (talk) 09:25, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- As long as it is two-way, then my agreeing won't have any reservations. ~PogingJuan 05:32, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think the other editor wants to interact with you, but right now we're just talking about you. I don't see a need to log a formal ban on the other editor at this time absent evidence that they are harassing you. 331dot (talk) 11:24, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
The concern with the absolute one-way WP:IBAN lies with the fact on the possibility of them, for example, undo-ing my edit or contest his edit on my edit, reply to them on a possible discussion (of any sort) they will bring in the future. Such things, with WP:IBAN will definitely bring me in a disadvantaged position. ~PogingJuan 11:39, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
@331dot:: my reply above ~PogingJuan 11:41, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Do you anticipate a high likelihood of that occurring? From what I see there was little if any interaction between the two of you prior to October 16th. If it did, you could request a ban on them later. 331dot (talk) 13:47, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Joe Roe, Liz, do you have any additional concerns if an Iban is put in place? 331dot (talk) 14:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not too sure. These were retaliatory edits rather than any sort of genuine dispute, so should absolutely be a one-way IBAN. That PogingJuan apparently doesn't see this would suggest that he isn't really acknowledging what the problem was. Then again, as long as he sticks to the IBAN and doesn't do the same thing with other editors, that doesn't matter. @Onel5969: do you have anything to say? – Joe (talk) 08:15, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I would disagree to a two-way IBAN, as I have done nothing wrong to warrant such an action. In my years of editing on WP, I've never been accused of retaliatory actions. In some of my activities on WP, I may come across this editor, such as what happened to prompt their retaliatory actions. At NPP, if I come across one of their articles, I will review their article just like any other article, fairly, and solely with an eye on WP policies and guidelines. I do not seek this editor out, nor have I in the past. In fact, I was unaware this was still an issue until I received Joe's ping above. Onel5969 10:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not too sure. These were retaliatory edits rather than any sort of genuine dispute, so should absolutely be a one-way IBAN. That PogingJuan apparently doesn't see this would suggest that he isn't really acknowledging what the problem was. Then again, as long as he sticks to the IBAN and doesn't do the same thing with other editors, that doesn't matter. @Onel5969: do you have anything to say? – Joe (talk) 08:15, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- I would be concerned with unblocking. It's less that I think PogingJuan is likely to violate the IBAN (which obviously should be 1-way). It's more that they've still not set out their thought process that led them from "this person has redirected an article I made" to "clearly I should AfD a whole bunch of their articles rather than any other option" - and, more relevantly, why we would think they will be any better at dealing with conflict in the future. Until they have considered that aspect, I wouldn't back any unblock. Nosebagbear (talk) 00:07, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Nosebagbear: The issue was already acknowledged. It's as if I wanna be blocked again for "AfDing a whole bunch of their articles that ACTUALLY doesn't adhere to WP:RS (and were deleted eventually after the second nomination by other users)" after "that person has redirected a properly-sourced article I made, instead of just putting notability tag or even AfDing it". Of course, it will be avoided in the future. ~PogingJuan 17:31, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- @PogingJuan: @Nosebagbear: A redirect is a procedural step of WP:NPP, and your article indeed had some issues that still merit a notability tag. Of course by
properly-sourced
you mean that it meets WP:V, but is borderline at WP:NORG (as a student union is described as astudent organisation
per the Misplaced Pages page, so NORG probably applies here). Moreover, you have not successfully explained other issues- your demonstrably inaccurate A11 nominations, reprodding an article after it has been deprodded, and repeatedly misusing rollback to revert good-faith edits without any explanation. Would you acknowledge these mistakes as well? Many thanks! VickKiang (talk) 20:28, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- @PogingJuan: @Nosebagbear: A redirect is a procedural step of WP:NPP, and your article indeed had some issues that still merit a notability tag. Of course by
@VickKiang: Then, the notability tag must have been placed in the first place, instead of just redirecting it. The NPP user haven't even provided explanations for the redirect, when they must have put it—they just deleted it and put a redirect, when the NPP role has the feature to put "notability tags", among others. Meanwhile, the A11 nomination was under the assumption of "the user discovered the place" (i.e. discovered the place and just put up an article of it without any further verifying its notability), not "invented" or "made up", bec definitely they weren't invented or made up. It was proven, though, at the AfDs consensus that some of those articles made by the same user could just be redirected to another article. Some of them were even overlapping. On another note, the rollback issue "might have been misused" (I couldn't honestly remember when or what edits I have used that feature), but definitely, it was in good faith, too. All issues, acknowledged. ~PogingJuan 04:43, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
Meanwhile, the A11 nomination was under the assumption of "the user discovered the place" (i.e. discovered the place and just put up an article of it without any further verifying its notability), not "invented" or "made up", bec definitely they weren't invented or made up. It was proven, though, at the AfDs consensus that some of those articles made by the same user could just be redirected to another article.
The A11 is absolutely incorrect IMO, as pointed out by Liz, that an article that ends up being deleted/redirected by AfD doesn't mean it qualifies CSD.The NPP user haven't even provided explanations for the redirect, when they must have put it—they just deleted it and put a redirect, when the NPP role has the feature to put "notability tags", among others
- the redirect section does say thatThe deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. In many cases a redirect may be more appropriate. Converting an article to a redirect without prior discussion is allowed and is not tendentious editing so long as proper BRD procedure is followed. Non notable schools, for example, can be redirected to the school district article (US), or to the locality article (rest of the world), with a very brief mention. Convincing the creator is however occasionally challenging; in the case of a redirect reversal, the solution is either draftify or AfD.
While it might have been better to leave a detailed note, that edit is not vandalism/obviously disruptive etc... to merit a rollback. VickKiang (talk) 04:46, 12 November 2022 (UTC)the user discovered the place
is a significant misinterpretation of A11. A geographic place not legally recognised but still occasionally very trivially mentioned by WP:RS does not fall under Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages is not for things made up one day. VickKiang (talk) 04:47, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
@VickKiang: 1.) Upon learning that the A11 was incorrect, I immediately stopped tagging A11s and just put up AfDs for articles with "the same templating and sourcing". If I didn't acknowledge that "A11 mistakes", the articles would have been mass-A11ed, not mass-AfDed.
2.) Oh, so that was the one I have used the rollback. Well, I have assumed that that was vandalism bec it was emptied with redirect without putting the reason, especially, the article, even with notability issues, is still properly sourced. It's not just right to blank it without a reason, especially when "you also created articles that are definitely qualified for deletion" (thus, the AfD). I mean, there's a reason of the edit summary existing. But alright. ~PogingJuan 04:58, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
you also created articles that are definitely qualified for deletion
- I dunno if editors should try to trace inappropriate articles other created five years ago, but at least it's good that you are acknowledging that these A11s are invalid. Thanks. VickKiang (talk) 05:01, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
@VickKiang: The block reason I can't acknowledge, though, upon seeing the block log, is "disruptive editing". Again, no one has engaged in disruptive editing, the reason made me look as if I'm not here to contribute, which is not true. The action might have been "hounding" (although still debatable as there was a "constructive reason" for the AfDs and not merely because they blanked an article I made for no stated reason). I didn't respond to the senseless ANI of Onel5659 because it would be a time waster; I just stopped mass-AfDing the articles WORTHY of deletion. Why do the admins still have to block me when I just voted "delete" on the second AfD nomination? IMO, the first AfD nominations must not have been closed procedurally on the time that the discussions were already going on. The AfDs closer stated it's to "send a message to me" but actually that "message" is senseless—senseless on the grounds that why did they have to disrupt the ongoing objective AfD discussion nominated by a user whom they have problem with, when they can just warn the user and let the objective discussion continue?
The block reason ("disruptive editing") aimed to diminish my contributions on English Misplaced Pages, just because I AfDed a certain user's articles that were definitely qualified for deletion. If there's something I completely agree I was mistaken, it was to mass-AfD; there could have been no problems if I just AfDed 1 or 2 articles of the same template. The admins who were involved in this blocking (i.e. Liz and Joe Roe) were not even responding. Their views as initiators of this block must be heard, otherwise, what—will this block not be lifted indefinitely? ~PogingJuan 06:15, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- I would be interested in Liz's opinion here as well, however, you mass-AfDed numerous articles one minute after another. I'd be interested to hear how could you perform a full WP:BEFORE search in such a short time (I'm probably regarded as doing a too quick WP:BEFORE search to some, that usually just searches a couple of other related websites in addition to the bare minimum, but I still usually need five minutes. Therefore, I'd be interested how you were able to draw a conclusion so promptly and where you researched prior to the mass AfD. VickKiang (talk) 06:45, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- Based on the above, I don't support unblocking you, even with an IBAN. You are refusing to acknowledge the reasons for block, complaining about others instead of focusing on your conduct, and give every indication that you will continue to treat Misplaced Pages like a battleground. – Joe (talk) 15:28, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
@Joe Roe: I've already acknowledged the issue already even before this block. I'm not really complaining about the other user, I was explaining the context of why did I AfD.
"Continue to treat Misplaced Pages like a battleground?" Just because I had a contention with a certain user doesn't mean I will treat Misplaced Pages like a battleground. Just because I had a contention with another user doesn't mean my purpose in this wiki realm is just to "edit disruptively". The administrators may look at my contributions and from there, tell me if my real intention was just to "edit disruptively" instead of "contributing to the encyclopedia."
Is there really a need of me "absolutely nodding 'yes'" to whatever the blocking administrator says just to appease him? Is the acknowledgment that I will refrain from doing such actions again ++ the IBAN not enough? Do I really have to show an emotion like the one in "pleading emoji"?
C'mon, this was my first block because of a contention since the creation of this account in 2016. Why is there a prejudice from the blocking administrator that by expressing my thoughts, then suddenly "I will treat Misplaced Pages like a battleground"? Doesn't the blocking administrator think after this block is lifted, the user who has been consistently contributing to Misplaced Pages with Philippine-related articles will be more cautious with his further actions because he cannot afford to be indefinitely blocked again? Why are you guys acting like that this blocked user is "not clearly here to contribute to Misplaced Pages"? Why don't you even test the IBAN first? ~PogingJuan 17:04, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).PogingJuan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Please refer to the message above. ~PogingJuan 02:18, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I am in agreement with the blocking admin and others who have commented on the page. You do not get why you were blocked and then said the blocking admin was "prejudiced". RickinBaltimore (talk) 13:42, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
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Request reason:
This unblock is to acknowledge the reason of being blocked four months ago. After some time being outside Misplaced Pages (due to the block), I have once again read the discussions and criticisms regarding the block. Truly, it is wrong to solely and unusually target other users' created articles and nominate them for deletion (even if these are truly qualified for ANI) after having their article nominated for deletion, as these actions obviously show grudge "to get back" and is in, any way, unhealthy to the Misplaced Pages community. This user promises to avoid such crass behavior in the future, not only in this platform but in any careers he will go through. I am now, once again, inclined to contribute articles (ones that had been on my mind since the block) that can help the general public whenever they'll need it. ~PogingJuan 15:14, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I'm declining this unblock request because it does not appear that the requestor is responding to questions here. Rosguill below asked for clarification, and received none. Please file a new request if you wish to be unblocked. Jayron32 16:39, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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@Joe Roe: @Liz: Please reconsider, thank you. 12:54, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Can you explain what you mean by
(even if these are truly qualified for ANI)
in your unblock statement? signed, Rosguill 04:13, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
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A tag has been placed on Lee Chin Koon requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a real person or group of people that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.
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