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==Thank you==
I've begun to do what you have said about using an off-line editor to do my editing rather than 'wikispace' to avoid copyright violations. Thank you for helping me understand that this isn't acceptable since I don't want to perform copyright violations. I do have a question: The University of Pittsburgh has given me permission to use the material on their sites describing their collections. I understand a verbal agreement amounts to no agreement at all. How do I document permission from the University to use their material?
:Best Regards,
::] (]) 07:29, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
:::If the copyright holder wishes to release the material under license, please see the instructions at ]. There's a sample permission email at ]. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 14:52, 27 November 2016 (UTC)


== User undid all my contributions ==
== Tunberg photos ==
Hi Diannaa. I'm starting a new section because there is so much text in the other section, it's hard to follow. I'm focusing on getting you the forms you need for the WT photos.
# Re the Zeller photo, we've been advised he had no children. He has a wife, and we're trying to track her down.
# I understand the concept of two forms to fill out for photos of original artwork. I read https://commons.wikimedia.org/Commons:Derivative_works, but it's not specific as to what form to fill out by the original artwork creator (I'm assuming the Declaration of consent is for the derivative, since it's a photo). What form needs to be filled out by the creator of the original artwork?
# I've read https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials. It's confusing. You referred me to Declaration of consent of all enquiries to fill out. I'll use the wizard and choose Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported and GNU Free Documentation License, mainly because I don't know what the other licenses mean, but I think it'll be fine. There is no way to control these photos anyway, as they've been picked up by bots and are all over the internet. Where the form says "CHOOSE ONE: OR , ," I'll insert the Misplaced Pages address. If you'd like me to do something different, let me know.
# WT and I are co-owners of the WT photos because we took the photos together. Who is the copyright holder? The person who actually pushes the button?
# I'd like to use a couple of additional photos in the gallery section of the article. I don't want to give the photos to Misplaced Pages unless I'm assured they'll be used. Are photos allowed to be added as a COI editor without an edit request?
To summarize, I'll fill out an enquiry form for each photo and send the forms to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. How do I handle the original artwork? We're working on tracking down Artie's wife. Question re additional photos.
Thanks for your help.] (]) 18:09, 27 November 2016 (UTC)


The user ] keeps removing all my contributions and first I tried not to take it personally but now I'm feeling hounded. I added contributions to some articles, added the sources and he removed all of my edits simply because he didn't like the sourced link. He suggested IMSLP, which doesn't even have information about the text I added. Now it's a back and forth of him removing my entire contributions, regardless of what's inside. Right now he's removing the one I had added after you told me to review it, which I did. https://en.wikipedia.org/Psycho_(1960_film)
:I don't think I can explain it any better than the information already available on this website and at the Commons to you but I will try. The copyright holder of a photograph is the person who actually took the photo. For each photo, the photographer has to choose a license. For the artwork, the copyright holder of the artwork has to choose a license. Both parties need to fill out the declaration of consent. There's no way to guarantee that images you upload here or to the Commons will actually be used in any articles. The images could be removed from the articles at any time by any editor. We don't always include galleries in our articles. The Commons hosts the images, and a link to the Commons category can be provided at the bottom of the article. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 18:41, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
He's moved onto every other revision I made and it's turning into an editing war. Please advise. ] (]) 14:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:It looks like all the additions use www.sheetmusicx.com as a citation. Do you have any assocuation with that website? --] (]) 15:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::I don't, they're the only publisher releasing those works, that's why information about those pieces is so scarce. ] (]) 15:35, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:::The website does not appear to be the official publisher for any of these scores. For sure they are not the official publishers for the Herrmann and Shostakovich works that ] added the link to. The company that they cite to also appears to be brand new. I haven't looked through all of its catalog, but a lot of its scores do not appear to even be available for sale until next year. None of these works are obscure. So it's odd that this editor chooses to cite a very obscure music publisher.
:::Some of this user's edits are also perhaps unintentionally misleading. at '']'' suggested that the site they linked to was the first to publish the original score and parts. This would be incorrect, as previously existing sources in the article already confirm. —] (]) 16:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::::The "obscure" publisher has been in business for over a decade and is a respectable publisher
::::https://daniels-orchestral.com/other-resources/publishers/s/
::::Their publishings go back to 2010 https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Search?q=STRAUSS&num=25&start=0&enviro=prod&DateBucket=2010-2019%7C2010&DataSource=Library
The website registration shows 2010 in fact https://lookup.icann.org/en/lookup
::::I don't know why you specifically have to be convinced of it in order for edits to stick, but I'm done even trying, just because you don't know something doesn't mean it's fake or dubious, it's people like you that make editing on Misplaced Pages so unpleasant. ] (]) 16:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::You need to discuss this somewhere else please. ] (]) 16:28, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::The ] continues harassing me and ], if I edit 4 articles he goes right there to undo what I edit, regardless of the content, you just have to see his ] where he goes around reverting whatever I touch. Now he is trying to ], when I'm clearly not one. At this point I'd like to know if there's a way to stop him from interacting with my edits, or some temporary block on him? He's making editing on Misplaced Pages very unfriendly and acts like he owns it ]. I cited proper sources in my edits, I don't know why he's been targeting me but it's exhausting. ] (]) 09:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::This is already being discussed at ] and ]. Sorry but I don't have time to get involved. It's an edit war orver the reliability of a particular website, and I don't have time to get into that.--] (]) 13:37, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


== Backendgaming sockpuppets ==
::This simple explanation did help. Thank you.] (]) 22:31, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
:::Diannaa, we submitted the consent forms necessary for all photos except the Zeller photo. We should have an answer to our Zeller inquiry shortly. Thx.] (]) 23:02, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
::::{{tpw}}{{reply to |Cstwct}} If you've sent in permissions emails to Commons OTRS, you can replace the ] with ]. All you need to do is go to each file's page and add <code><nowiki>{{OTRS pending}}</nowiki></code> in the {{para|permission}} parameter of ]. What this does is give 30 days for OTRS to verify the email and make sure the licensing the copyright holder has chosen is acceptable for Commons. Whomever sent in the email should receive a reply from OTRS and this reply will contain an OTRS ticket number. Please make note of this number because it will make it easier for OTRS to find your email if there are any problems. If you have any questions about this, please post something at ]. There tends to be a bit of a backlog when it comes to verifying permission emails, so it may take a little time. If 30 days have passed and the licensing for the files still has not been verified, the "OTRS pending" template will automatically revert back to "No permission since". If that happens, please ask for assistance at the OTRS noticeboard. If you plan to upload more files to Commons, please follow the instructions at ]. If by chance the files are deleted, do not re-upload them; instead, go to the OTRS noticeboard and ask for assistance. Files which are deleted are not gone forever, but rather only hidden from public view. Just let OTRS or the Commons administrator who deleted the files know that you have sent in a permissions email and they will "un-delete" the files for you. You can find out which administrator deleted the file, simply by clicking on the file's link or using ].
:::: Finally, one last thing about image use. I added the "Gallery" to the Turnberg article just to clean up the formatting a bit, but Diannaa is absolutely right about Misplaced Pages articles and galleries. Galleries tend to lean towards decorative use of images, whereas Misplaced Pages ideally strives for contextual use of images. The best usage of images is not simply one which shows the image (see ]), but one which contextually ties the image to specific discussion (even better would be sourced discussion of that content) within the article content. It's actually better to place images near where they are being discussed. Articles are not intended to be places for present artist portfolios, so adding too many images might be seen as promotional. Adding/removing images is really no different from adding/removing text in that it's not really considered to be a ]. So, I would not advise you do any image editing due to your COI (unless it's just to tweak the formatting, etc.) and use the "request edit" template if you want to add an image to either article. As Diannaa posted, there is no real 100% guarantee when it comes to anything on Misplaced Pages, even images, so any image added can be removed by another editor. Proper licensing is required, but that in and of itself does not guarantee a particular file should be used. Sometimes, it's better to establish a local consensus on the article's talk page per ] and ] before adding images. -- ] (]) 01:17, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
:::::Hi Diannaa and Marchjuly. All photos have been deleted. The only one I'll replace is the photo of WT. I wanted to remove the Gallery anyway so this is a blessing in disguise. I was trying to add images in a contextual fashion. I initially tried to place them next to the text. But you're right -- I don't want the article to look like a promotional catalog. I'll go to the OTRS noticeboard and ask to only have WT's photo put back in. I'll also ask for help in placing the OTRS template (I assume it goes on the image page but not sure). When the photos were removed, the title Gallery wasn't removed. I'll go in and delete it because now it constitutes a mistake. Thank you.] (]) 01:53, 28 November 2016 (UTC)


Hi Diannaa, I am asking for your opinion on this subject because you were an admin that dealt with the ] against ]. Since the last recorded incidents from 2018, I noticed there were further potential sockpuppet accounts made since then, including the following:
== Correct correction? ==
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Hi, ] new to this but wanted to check on response to speedy deletion due to copyright infringement, could you look at {{pagelinks|Pablo Castro Estevez}} and remove the speedy deletion tag if corrected as required or should this be requested by someone else?] (]) 21:39, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
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All of which display a notable overlap in edit style and choice of topic with ]. Although some have not been used recently, and the others have been recently blocked for personal attacks against other editors, my question is whether you think it is worth doing a checkuser on these accounts as sockpuppets of ]? If identified as socks, it would help in watching over articles that tends to be targeted, help identify further socks as ] remains actively editing, and may help to undo a lot the disruptive edits already made. Any thoughts on this are appreciated. Thanks. ] (]) 10:32, 29 December 2024 (UTC)


:Sorry, I don't know mich about this topic. Please go to ] to file your report. Thanks, ] (]) 11:52, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
== for revdel ==


== Wikizilla; copyright or not? ==
there maybe some , at least comment ] (]) 00:10, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
:Done; thanks for reporting. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 00:39, 28 November 2016 (UTC)


Hi Diannaa! Happy almost new year :) I see that you removed and revdeleted content at ] from Wikizilla stating that it wasn't compatible and then later on at ] declined the G12 and attributed it. Do you think it's ultimately compatible? I see that it's been removed and revdelled at ] additionally, and I just reverted a removal at ] myself, so it seems like we're all off-base and I thought I'd get another opinion. ] (]) 04:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
== Sohn Coference Misplaced Pages ==
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Hi,
I would like to try again to add content to the Sohn Conference Misplaced Pages. Can I put up content little by little, in my own words, using the many sources I have, and at each stage you can see if I no longer am infringing on copyright rules? I believe that most of the content that was up was not even close to being "copied" and was indeed in my "own words." Perhaps there were some places where I was not careful to change the wording around enough. Please let me try again. I think overall it is a good article, describing the organization from good third party sources. Thanks. ] (]) 10:54, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
:I would not have hesitated to say Yes if you had not denied that any of your work was copied from other copyright websites. Your edits were picked up as a bot as being a copyright violation, and I confirmed it using our copyvio detection tool. Regardless, I am willing to take a chance and will follow along to check your work. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 20:46, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
== Hmmmmm. ==


If you dump stuff on my talk page. I'd kinda hope you might have added my talk page to your watchlist. ] (]) 11:29, 29 November 2016 (UTC) :Hi Sennecaster, that's a good question. Their copyright page is hard to find, so I bookmarked it. . ] (]) 09:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:Sorry. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 14:33, 29 November 2016 (UTC)


== Large scale copyvios == == Request for Assistance ==


You are an administrator that I respect, @]. If possible, I would value your contribution to the ]. It would mean a lot to have your third-party, experienced perspective. ] (]) 19:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi Dianna. If you have the time, we had large-scale copyvios at {{la|Narciso Rodriguez}}. I cleaned up but you can check also. Thank you. ] ] 07:11, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
:I have checked and it's okay now. Did some revision-deletion as well. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 15:51, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Also cleaned up {{la|Nissan GT-R}}. ] ] 07:26, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
::I noticed that {{noping|Caseycad}} started the copyvios at the article from 2012. Do these have to be revdeled as well? ] ] 16:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
:::They could be done as well, but it would mean hiding a couple thousand diffs, so I decided to do it more conservatively — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 16:27, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
::::I see. Thank you again Dianna. ] ] 16:29, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
:This one I found a little more content to amend, and did revision deletion back to June, which is when the bulk of the copy vio occurred. Thanks for reporting. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 15:51, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
::Thank you, as always, for your tireless, and hard, work Dianna. ] ] 15:56, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


== Interactive Artificial inteligence ==
== Raul Escribano ==


Greeting
Hi Diannaa. Would you mind taking a look at ] and checking if there are any copyvios when you have a spare moment? Based upon ], it appears the article's creator is a new editor unfamiliar with Misplaced Pages who might be a soldier and who might have unintentionally too closing paraphrased or simply copy-and-pasted content about Escribano from official US military webpages/documents. -- ] (]) 11:22, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
i am a university student and was tasked with creating a wikipedia page creating a new page in wiki pedia in the path of expanding information.
:It was copied from , which is okay as long as proper attribution is provided. I've added the attribution and notified the user. Thanks for reporting, — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 14:31, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
i choosed "interactive artificial intelligence" as my topic and used the article "Interactive AI With Retrieval-Augmented Generation for Next Generation Networking" written by Ruichen Zhang , Hongyang Du , Yinqiu Liu , Dusit Niyato , Jiawen Kang , Sumei Sun , Xuemin Shen , and H. Vincent Poor as a source but i was striked as advertisement ban the second time i tried to publish the article i got permanently ban.
::Thank you Diannaa. I've never seen {{tl|public domain}} used before. That's a nice thing to know about. How do you verify whether the origin source material has been released into the public domain for pdf files? Do you just work backwards to the main page and check the licensing there? -- ] (]) 21:48, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
i want to ask for an reconsideration for uploading my article as i did not aim for any advertising and only stated IAI advancements againts traditional tools.
:::{{tps}} {{Reply|Marchjuly}} the two easiest criteria for public-domain status in the USA include all works of the ''federal'' government (including the military, but not individual states or localities) and everything ''published'' before 1923 (anywhere in the world). That makes them legit to post here with a PD tag (of which there are many, for various specific purposes), and likewise for US-origin works on Commons (other countries have different rules, most of which are respected there). There are plenty more criteria that may apply, and it can get pretty complicated, but those two usually require the least research to identify. Beware of public-domain declarations online if the reason isn‘t apparent, because there’s a widespread misconception that it means merely publicly displayed or available: “If they didn’t want people to copy it, they wouldn’t have posted it!”—]]] 23:14, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
:::Adding: I verify by going to the root page where the PDF is stored (in this case http://www.usfk.mil/) and see whose site it is. Occasionally for US military staff you will find the biography at multiple locations online as well. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(])
::::Thanks for all the info {{u|Odysseus1479}} and {{u|Diannaa}}. What about ] in these types of cases? Is it still OK to copy-and-paste verbatim public domain content into articles? -- ] (]) 01:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
:::::Yes, but only if properly cited: see ] and the linked family of attribution templates. OTOH there may be any number of editorial reasons to avoid it in particular cases; for example where the material has fallen out of copyright because of its age, in many subject areas it’s likely to be obsolete in the face of recent research or changing attitudes. Often the writing style will also be incompatible with the rest of the article and the ‘encylopaedic tone‘ we strive for.—]]] 02:11, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


thank you for reading. ] (]) 23:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
== Yay! ==


:Sorry, I can't find your deleted article, and you don't have any deleted contributions under the username ]. Please tell me which account you were using when you created the article. Were you actually banned or blocked? What was the exact title of your article? or was it in a sandbox, or a draft? ] (]) 01:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Your block expires tomorrow! <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:49, 30 November 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::I think they mean ]. ] (]) 06:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Yes, that's it. The draft was deleted twice, because it was copied from , which is not compatibly licensed. That's a violation of our copyright policy. Then there's ], which is another copy, but in Persian. @], please don't add copyright material to Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 12:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::OP blocked as a block-evading sockpuppet of blocked spammer/copyvio'er, {{np|Iliya IZ}}. --] (]) 12:21, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks Yamla, case closed, at least for now. ] (]) 12:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== Request for Guidance on Recreating the ] Page ==
== ] ==


Hello Diannaa,
Back in January, you RevDeled most of this inglorious ]-a-rama as copyvio from a Daily Mail article. Apparently a different IP re-added most of the content the next day. I just ran across the article via Recent Changes and it appears to be a hodgepodge of copyvio from sources including . I am not sure how best to handle the problem beyond reverting the article to your clean version from January 22 (). I am willing to take the time to tease out the (relatively) original content from the plagiarized content, but given the RevDel that is going to be necessary, I don't want to create administrative work where it can be avoided, and so, before I plow into the fray, I thought I would ask for advice from an ultimate mop-wielder. Many thanks! - ''']''' '' ]'' 22:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
I am not the original creator of the deleted page, but I am part of the team and we are working on reworking the Draft:European Magnetism Association page, which was previously deleted due to copyright concerns.
:If you have time to go ahead and clean it that would be great. Then I can do the revision deletions after, no trouble at all. Thanks, — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 00:47, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
We are currently preparing a new draft with fully original content and I would like to ensure that it aligns with Misplaced Pages's guidelines. Could you kindly advise me on how best to proceed?
Thank you for your time and assistance.
Kind regards,
Evgenia ] (]) 15:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:I see that you've already created a new draft, and have copied a bunch of stuff from the association's website. That's not okay. Please see your talk page for what to do next.] (]) 20:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)


== Thanks Diannaa == == Hi ==


Hello Diannaa: I'm Jean Mercier. I need your help. Some people accuse me of being a puppet of someone else who has my name. These people have weak evidence against me while I have already proven that I am not that guy. To make matters worse, they blocked me. Please help me. ] (]) 18:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for your assistance on Zaha Hadid. Normally I'm loath to write things such as "the greatest" (it's often purely subjective). I knew of Hadid but had no idea of her standing in architecture, and against my normal judgement I added that line when I saw there were four other sources. The Queen of curve line I also assumed was a general term for her as opposed to something ''The Guardian'' thought up. I can see why you cleaned up both of these issues as I should attribute such a quote/opinion directly rather than assume its common knowledge. Thanks again Diannaa.— ] (]) 07:37, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
:When ''The Guardian'' called her the greatest, they were quoting a press release from her company. If you've got independent sources for the claim, I have no objection to it being added back. ''Forbes'' also calls her Queen of the Curve so this might be more common than it initially appeared to me. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 13:12, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


== Lag BaOmer == ==A post from an IP==
Thank you for your feedback. I appreciate the importance of maintaining Misplaced Pages’s standards for neutrality, reliable sourcing, and avoiding promotional behavior. I would like to clarify that the addition I made is not promotional but instead contributes meaningfully to the topic by referencing a novel concept published in a peer-reviewed scholarly journal indexed by Web of Science.


The cited source represents a reliable academic reference that aligns with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines on verifiability and reliability. It introduces a unique perspective that enhances the quality of the entry by broadening the scholarly debate. Furthermore, I believe that the inclusion of diverse academic views is critical to upholding Misplaced Pages's mission of being a balanced and comprehensive repository of knowledge.
Thank you for taking care of the RevDel there. Given that we have had four reverted IP edits in the last two days, perhaps you'll keep an eye on the page. If we have one more, maybe SP for a week? Thanks. ] (]) 15:28, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


If there are counterarguments or alternative perspectives, I welcome those contributions as they can further enrich the entry. However, outright removal of the information without considering its academic merit may inadvertently reflect bias and go against the principles of scholarly debate and Misplaced Pages’s collaborative ethos.
== Alleged "attack" page ==


To address potential concerns, I propose the following:
I plan on doing a page for each of the Fish and Wildlife Commissioners which I don't believe have pages. These are powerful elected officials in our state. I was just trying to do a full bio. Can you make some suggestions how to clean it up? ] (]) 20:06, 1 December 2016 (UTC)


The source and its relevance to the entry can be discussed on the article's talk page to ensure transparency and community review.
Please not that the St Louis Police & Airport Police Are Two Separate Departments <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:21, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
If additional verification is required, I am open to providing further supporting evidence for the validity of the reference.
I look forward to collaborating to ensure the entry remains accurate, balanced, and reflective of ongoing academic discourse.


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==My edits disappeared from ]==
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Greetings and thanks for your dedication and work. I am very concern, however, as to why you made disappear my edits from the article. I spent several hours working on it and was now moving to add sources and continue the work I began yesterday. However, I just found out that you not only reverted my work but also made it disappear. My edits are 100% clean from plagiarism. I have taught it for 16 years and I have published a few encyclopedia articles on the topic. The links you offered in the edits summary have nothing in common with what I added but simply the topic. Please, take a look at my edits, and review your decision. Thanks. ]<sup>]</sup> 01:08, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
:I think I have got it repaired now, restoring your edits while still removing and hiding the copyright violations added by another user. Sorry for the mistake. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 01:22, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks for the quick response and for restoring my contributions. Cheers, ]<sup>]</sup> 01:53, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


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== Deleted Fourth Industrial Revolution page ==
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== Nomination of ] for deletion ==
Thanks for your feedback. The Fourth Industrial Revolution entry was my first attempt to create a Wiki page. I thought I referenced/cited accordingly, but apparently not. How can I rework to get it back up? Did the entire page need to be deleted? Some parts came directly from other Wiki pages so thought that was fine, like the history of previous industrial revolutions. Maybe I shouldn't have been so ambitious and just add a smaller section to the already existing Industry 4.0 page (although it's not exactly the same thing as the Fourth Industrial Revolution - thus the reason I felt a new page was necessary). Any tips and how to proceed would be most appreciated. ] (]) 09:46, 2 December 2016 (UTC)Marknoa
<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article ], to which you have , is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to ] or if it should be ].
:There were two kinds of copyright violations in your work; a lot of it was copied from other websites, which is a violation of the policies of this website and of copyright law. And, when you copy from one Misplaced Pages page to another, you need to provide attribution. While you are welcome to re-use licensed content, here or elsewhere, Misplaced Pages's licensing requires that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying from other compatibly-licensed web pages, please at minimum mention in an edit summary at the new page where you got the content. A sample edit summary: <code>Copied content from <nowiki>]</nowiki>; see that page's history for attribution</code>. There's more information at ]. You might consider writing your article in draft space first, but the main issue was the copyright violations: Content you source to external websites needs to be thoroughly re-written, and content you import from other Misplaced Pages articles needs to be properly attributed. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 14:53, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


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Hello, Diannaa. The source of the ] is under a non-commercial/non-derivative license. So, it's wrongly tagged & seems unsuitable for its upload here. BTW, there are plenty of . - ] (]) 19:52, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
: {{tpw}} {{Reply to|NitinMlk}} I tagged the file as F3 since the licence on Flickr is {{tl|cc-by-nc-nd-2.0}}, and it has been deleted. —&thinsp;]&thinsp;<small>(]'''·'''])</small> 23:38, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
::{{Reply to|JJMC89}} Thank you. - ] (]) 18:20, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

== Copyright question ==

Hi, Diannaa. I just came across an overtly promotional bio, and wonder which came first, ] or . Perhaps you can confirm whether this is a copyright violation of the subject's website, or if the Wiki bio took precedence. Thank you, ] (]) 21:06, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
:The page has never been archived by the Wayback Machine so it's impossible to say at this point. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 00:29, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

==World Bowls Championship==

Hello Diana, What material was copyrighted please? I took the information from an existing page ] created by a different user. I wasn't aware that I had added anything. ] (]) 10:03, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
:The edit was picked up by a bot as being a copyright violation. While the website http://www.ashfieldbowlingclub.com.au/world_champions_93.html does have a copy of the material, I see that you did indeed move the material from the article ]. However, apparently you did not know that when moving or copying material from one Misplaced Pages article to another, you need to provide attribution? This is supplied at minimum in an ] at the page into which you've copied content. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{tl|copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at ]. Please follow these important steps in the future, especially the edit summary, not only to provide the required attribution, but to help me identify content that has been moved so that false positives are easily identified when checking the bot reports. Sorry about the scary warning. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 13:36, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

== Don Vaccaro ==

Thanks. I wasn't quite sure if it was "blatant" or not but in any case I should have used an Fnn CSD. I fear I don't do as many of these as I used to. ] (]) 15:08, 3 December 2016 (UTC)


==Images==
Thank you so much for your help. I have just created a file on wikipedia: it's a book cover. I'm trying to add it to a specific article (the one about the book), but i can't do it and i don't know why. my page about the book is still a Draft page, can i link that file to a Draft page? can you please help me?
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:We can't use non-free images in draft space. You are welcome to re-do the upload after the draft is accepted for publication. — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 18:05, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

== GoldenTree Asset Management ==

Thanks for the tip ], I will create my own summary moving forward. --] (]) 02:27, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

== Block of user Oldyorke ==

you imposed on user Oldyorke is probably not what we should be doing. I agree 100% that this editor has been cut-and-pasting material that violates ] rather explicitly. In many cases, I've fixed the problems. In many cases, I've notified the editor or used an edit summary indicating the problem. The fundamental issue here is that the editor doesn't understand the policy and doesn't read / respond to messages. Oldyorke has tried to add the required sources, but just doesn't know *HOW* to do so properly, and we have no mechanism to teach this editor.{{parabr}}It's annoying as hell to clean up the messes that have been created, but these are productive edits. Sure, the block meets policy but the effect is to throw out a well-meaning editor who has made a substantial number of useful edits....{{parabr}}... and who has simply evaded the block -- again without understanding or responding to the block -- by going back into business as the cleverly disguised Oldyorkey. ] (]) 19:07, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
:Did you know there's 60 to 100 copyvio reports being filed at https://tools.wmflabs.org/copypatrol/en each day? Checking these reports consumes almost all of my editing time. You are welcome to attempt to mentor some or all of these users but if I try to do that too, there will be nobody to check the bot reports. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's the reality of it. I am opening an SPI. ] — ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;(]) 19:26, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

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User undid all my contributions

The user user:CurryTime7-24 keeps removing all my contributions and first I tried not to take it personally but now I'm feeling hounded. I added contributions to some articles, added the sources and he removed all of my edits simply because he didn't like the sourced link. He suggested IMSLP, which doesn't even have information about the text I added. Now it's a back and forth of him removing my entire contributions, regardless of what's inside. Right now he's removing the one I had added after you told me to review it, which I did. https://en.wikipedia.org/Psycho_(1960_film) He's moved onto every other revision I made and it's turning into an editing war. Please advise. John40332 (talk) 14:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

It looks like all the additions use www.sheetmusicx.com as a citation. Do you have any assocuation with that website? --Diannaa (talk) 15:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
I don't, they're the only publisher releasing those works, that's why information about those pieces is so scarce. John40332 (talk) 15:35, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
The website does not appear to be the official publisher for any of these scores. For sure they are not the official publishers for the Herrmann and Shostakovich works that John40322 added the link to. The company that they cite to also appears to be brand new. I haven't looked through all of its catalog, but a lot of its scores do not appear to even be available for sale until next year. None of these works are obscure. So it's odd that this editor chooses to cite a very obscure music publisher.
Some of this user's edits are also perhaps unintentionally misleading. This edit at Tahiti Trot suggested that the site they linked to was the first to publish the original score and parts. This would be incorrect, as previously existing sources in the article already confirm. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 16:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
The "obscure" publisher has been in business for over a decade and is a respectable publisher
https://daniels-orchestral.com/other-resources/publishers/s/
Their publishings go back to 2010 https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Search?q=STRAUSS&num=25&start=0&enviro=prod&DateBucket=2010-2019%7C2010&DataSource=Library

The website registration shows 2010 in fact https://lookup.icann.org/en/lookup

I don't know why you specifically have to be convinced of it in order for edits to stick, but I'm done even trying, just because you don't know something doesn't mean it's fake or dubious, it's people like you that make editing on Misplaced Pages so unpleasant. John40332 (talk) 16:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
You need to discuss this somewhere else please. Diannaa (talk) 16:28, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
The user:CurryTime7-24 continues harassing me and WP:HOUNDING, if I edit 4 articles he goes right there to undo what I edit, regardless of the content, you just have to see his history where he goes around reverting whatever I touch. Now he is trying to report me as a bot, when I'm clearly not one. At this point I'd like to know if there's a way to stop him from interacting with my edits, or some temporary block on him? He's making editing on Misplaced Pages very unfriendly and acts like he owns it WP:OWN. I cited proper sources in my edits, I don't know why he's been targeting me but it's exhausting. John40332 (talk) 09:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
This is already being discussed at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Classical music and Misplaced Pages:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Sorry but I don't have time to get involved. It's an edit war orver the reliability of a particular website, and I don't have time to get into that.--Diannaa (talk) 13:37, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Backendgaming sockpuppets

Hi Diannaa, I am asking for your opinion on this subject because you were an admin that dealt with the SPI case against Backendgaming. Since the last recorded incidents from 2018, I noticed there were further potential sockpuppet accounts made since then, including the following:

All of which display a notable overlap in edit style and choice of topic with Backendgaming. Although some have not been used recently, and the others have been recently blocked for personal attacks against other editors, my question is whether you think it is worth doing a checkuser on these accounts as sockpuppets of Backendgaming? If identified as socks, it would help in watching over articles that tends to be targeted, help identify further socks as Backendgaming remains actively editing, and may help to undo a lot the disruptive edits already made. Any thoughts on this are appreciated. Thanks. 37.0.81.237 (talk) 10:32, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know mich about this topic. Please go to Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Backendgaming to file your report. Thanks, Diannaa (talk) 11:52, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Wikizilla; copyright or not?

Hi Diannaa! Happy almost new year :) I see that you removed and revdeleted content at Shin Godzilla (character) from Wikizilla stating that it wasn't compatible and then later on at Tiamat (Godzilla) declined the G12 and attributed it. Do you think it's ultimately compatible? I see that it's been removed and revdelled at Kong (Monsterverse) additionally, and I just reverted a removal at User:GojiraFan1954/sandbox/Goro Maki myself, so it seems like we're all off-base and I thought I'd get another opinion. Sennecaster (Chat) 04:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi Sennecaster, that's a good question. Their copyright page is hard to find, so I bookmarked it. Here it is. Diannaa (talk) 09:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Request for Assistance

You are an administrator that I respect, @Diannaa. If possible, I would value your contribution to the Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Palestinian political violence (3rd nomination). It would mean a lot to have your third-party, experienced perspective. Firecat93 (talk) 19:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Interactive Artificial inteligence

Greeting i am a university student and was tasked with creating a wikipedia page creating a new page in wiki pedia in the path of expanding information. i choosed "interactive artificial intelligence" as my topic and used the article "Interactive AI With Retrieval-Augmented Generation for Next Generation Networking" written by Ruichen Zhang , Hongyang Du , Yinqiu Liu , Dusit Niyato , Jiawen Kang , Sumei Sun , Xuemin Shen , and H. Vincent Poor as a source but i was striked as advertisement ban the second time i tried to publish the article i got permanently ban. i want to ask for an reconsideration for uploading my article as i did not aim for any advertising and only stated IAI advancements againts traditional tools.

thank you for reading. Iliya izj (talk) 23:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't find your deleted article, and you don't have any deleted contributions under the username user:Iliya izj. Please tell me which account you were using when you created the article. Were you actually banned or blocked? What was the exact title of your article? or was it in a sandbox, or a draft? Diannaa (talk) 01:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I think they mean Draft:Interactive AI. Nobody (talk) 06:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes, that's it. The draft was deleted twice, because it was copied from this journal article, which is not compatibly licensed. That's a violation of our copyright policy. Then there's Draft:هوش مصنوعی تعاملی, which is another copy, but in Persian. @Iliya izj, please don't add copyright material to Misplaced Pages. Diannaa (talk) 12:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
OP blocked as a block-evading sockpuppet of blocked spammer/copyvio'er, Iliya IZ. --Yamla (talk) 12:21, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks Yamla, case closed, at least for now. Diannaa (talk) 12:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Request for Guidance on Recreating the Draft:European Magnetism Association Page

Hello Diannaa, I am not the original creator of the deleted page, but I am part of the team and we are working on reworking the Draft:European Magnetism Association page, which was previously deleted due to copyright concerns. We are currently preparing a new draft with fully original content and I would like to ensure that it aligns with Misplaced Pages's guidelines. Could you kindly advise me on how best to proceed? Thank you for your time and assistance. Kind regards, Evgenia EmJal (talk) 15:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I see that you've already created a new draft, and have copied a bunch of stuff from the association's website. That's not okay. Please see your talk page for what to do next.Diannaa (talk) 20:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi

Hello Diannaa: I'm Jean Mercier. I need your help. Some people accuse me of being a puppet of someone else who has my name. These people have weak evidence against me while I have already proven that I am not that guy. To make matters worse, they blocked me. Please help me. 2800:484:738F:15F0:25C0:47EF:549A:C1F1 (talk) 18:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

A post from an IP

Thank you for your feedback. I appreciate the importance of maintaining Misplaced Pages’s standards for neutrality, reliable sourcing, and avoiding promotional behavior. I would like to clarify that the addition I made is not promotional but instead contributes meaningfully to the topic by referencing a novel concept published in a peer-reviewed scholarly journal indexed by Web of Science.

The cited source represents a reliable academic reference that aligns with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines on verifiability and reliability. It introduces a unique perspective that enhances the quality of the entry by broadening the scholarly debate. Furthermore, I believe that the inclusion of diverse academic views is critical to upholding Misplaced Pages's mission of being a balanced and comprehensive repository of knowledge.

If there are counterarguments or alternative perspectives, I welcome those contributions as they can further enrich the entry. However, outright removal of the information without considering its academic merit may inadvertently reflect bias and go against the principles of scholarly debate and Misplaced Pages’s collaborative ethos.

To address potential concerns, I propose the following:

The source and its relevance to the entry can be discussed on the article's talk page to ensure transparency and community review. If additional verification is required, I am open to providing further supporting evidence for the validity of the reference. I look forward to collaborating to ensure the entry remains accurate, balanced, and reflective of ongoing academic discourse.

Best regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.146.51.112 (talk) 14:18, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Your comment appears to have been written by a chatbot. If you have something to say, please write your own comment. Diannaa (talk) 14:21, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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Replied again to you. --cyrfaw (talk) 13:03, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Another reply --cyrfaw (talk) 14:13, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Final reply. --cyrfaw (talk) 15:41, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of Regada Festival for deletion

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