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The talk page conversation has gotten way off topic and out of control with one or two editors keeping this alive with repeated posts about the merits of having award lists on Misplaced Pages. I tried to archive this myself, before understanding the specific rules about Requests for Closures, and it was immediately un-archived with more off topic posts about how Misplaced Pages should not have certain award lists. The talk page conversation has strayed away from the subject of the article and a lot of users have given up with the same people who are going around and around with the same posts. Can an uninvolved individual close and archive this. I would also recommend watching it for a short time afterwards as there is a high chance one of the original editors may try to unarchive it and keep the debate alive. -]<sup>]</sup> 14:23, 22 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|17:11, 13 December 2024 (UTC)}} challenge of close at AN was archived ''']''' - 05:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Unanimously opposed; it's snowing, someone please close this. ] (]) 12:29, 24 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
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*(involved comment) - I think it is reasonable to snow-close or procedural-close the original proposition, ''but'' to keep the "alternative proposal" by Jbh open. Maybe refactor the whole page or something. I made a comment to that effect . ]<sup>]</sup> 14:35, 24 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
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*The alternative proposal should certainly remain open, yes. ~ ]<sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">]</sup> 15:08, 24 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
*I'll close the first part. ] (]) 17:18, 24 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
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I initiated this RfC yesterday to deal with a situation already extensively debated on the Talk Page and at the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard. Over the past 30 hours the RfC has seen a great deal of attention, with twenty statements of opposition/support/neutrality with regard to the central question. It has reached the point where insults are being traded and the same of issues are being trotted out again and again. Perhaps it is too early to bring it to a close, but I feel that it has served its purpose. Would an '''experienced editor''' who is well versed in Misplaced Pages policy and determining consensus please take a look and, if they see fit, bring it to a close. ] (]) 19:40, 1 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|22:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)}} Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. ] (]) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:In looking it over, a closure at this point could only come out "no consensus". Of the options presented only two have enough support to consider; the first of these has about as much opposition as support (as of this writing), and the other has less support (despite lack of active opposition) than the option that has both noteworthy support and opposition. So, they kind of just cancel each other out, especially given that sometimes the same parties are supporting/opposing multiple options. The matter is one of editorial judgement, not policy or source analysis. An obvious option is also missing: that the matter should be left to editorial judgement on a per-article basis. It may be more practical to re-RfC this with combined and clarified options, and "advertise" the discussion neutrally at ] and if necessary ]. While the matter is "minor" in the sense of impact on an article, it potentially affects every bio article about a married person, except in cases where the marriage is still extant along with the parties to it and there was only one marriage. This means it would have major site-wide impact despite the narrowness of the quetsion, and thus that consensus should be quite clear before it is acted upon. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 07:44, 23 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
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{{Initiated|11:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)}} Participation/discussion has mostly stopped & is unlikely to pick back up again. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Would an uninvolved admin please assess the consensus and formally close this proposal? Thanks, ] (]) 00:10, 5 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
:{{a note}} This is a ] and subject to ]. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:would like to see what close is. seems like it was option 1 in general, possibly 1/2 for IP area. ] (]) 05:38, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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{{Initiated|19:01, 6 November 2024 (UTC)}} RfC expired on 6 December 2024 . No new comments in over a week. ] (]) 15:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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{{Initiated|00:24, 8 November 2024 (UTC)|done=no}}, RFC expired weeks ago. ] (]) 21:33, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|08:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC}} Requesting closure from uninvolved impartial third party to close a discussion that has not seen a novel argument for a bit. ~ ] (]) 18:21, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|09:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)|type=cfd}} <b>]]</b> (] • he/they) 22:47, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|20:53, 13 January 2025 (UTC)|type=cfd|done=yes}} <b>]]</b> (] • he/they) 08:14, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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After discussing with the closing admin for the AFD and DRV, could an editor close the straw vote and redirect the page? ] (] '''·''' ]) 09:32, 12 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|16:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)}} Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at {{slink|Talk:Free and open-source software#Proposed merge of Open-source software and Free software into Free and open-source software}}? Thank you. — ''''']''' <small>]</small>'' 01:53, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I'm requesting closure, though closure is a little too soon. Nevertheless, I'm doing this just in case. --] (]) 22:01, 21 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|25 September 2024}} Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
This article has been a recurrent hotbed of controversy, especially of claims of bias against the subject by WP regulars and for the subject by newcomers who appear to be fans of the subject. The RfC in question proposed two wording choices, and an alternative third one was later added. Supporters of the second of the original alternatives are declaring amongst themselves that they have a consensus for that version, despite multiple policy and guideline objections raised to it (thus the third option). I think it should be administratively assessed, because it's presently being treated as a head-counting vote instead of an analysis. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 07:29, 23 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|29 October 2024}} There are voices on both sides (ie it is not uncontroversial) so a non-involved editor is needed to evaluate consensus and close this. Thanks. ]] 09:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|23:40, 27 December 2024 (UTC)}} Proposed merge discussion originally opened on 30 May 2024, closed on 27 October 2024, and reopened on 27 December 2024 following the closure being overturned at AN. ] (]/]) 00:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|15:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)}} Seeking uninvolved closure; proposal is blocking GA closure <span style="background:#F3F3F3; color:inherit; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 11:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Would an uninvolved administrator kindly assess the consensus there? {{Initiated|28 November 2016}} — ] <sup>]</sup> 18:35, 28 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|16:39, 10 January 2025 (UTC)}} Seeking uninvolved closure; its degenerated into silly sniping and has clearly run its course. ] (]) 16:46, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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There's 100+ open discussions, some well over two months old. The vast majority of these are easy closures. Would appreciate it if an admin could spend an hour or so clearing these out. Thanks! -] 08:18, 22 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
Yup, the discussion does need to be closed. ] (]) 18:30, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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Please disposition ], which has been open since early December 2016. --] (]) 22:29, 23 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|13:08, 14 January 2025 (UTC)|type=rm|done=yes}} Seeking uninvolved closure; its been more than 7 days and there appears to be a consensus. There haven't been new opinions for almost three days now. ] (]) 22:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
No substantial backlog right now, but it's quite likely that the backlog will grow again at some point in time. ] (]) 01:56, 4 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
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Administrative discussions
Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive367#Close challenge for Talk:1948 Arab–Israeli War#RFC for Jewish exodus
(Initiated 40 days ago on 13 December 2024) challenge of close at AN was archived nableezy - 05:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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Requests for comment
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(Initiated 106 days ago on 7 October 2024) Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. Aaron Liu (talk) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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(Initiated 86 days ago on 28 October 2024) Participation/discussion has mostly stopped & is unlikely to pick back up again. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This is a contentious topic and subject to general sanctions. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Archived. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. 22:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- would like to see what close is. seems like it was option 1 in general, possibly 1/2 for IP area. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 05:38, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Talk:Genocide#RfC: History section, adding native American and Australian genocides as examples
(Initiated 76 days ago on 6 November 2024) RfC expired on 6 December 2024 . No new comments in over a week. Bogazicili (talk) 15:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Australia#RFC: Should the article state that Indigenous Australians were victims of genocide?
(Initiated 75 days ago on 8 November 2024), RFC expired weeks ago. GoodDay (talk) 21:33, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Talk:Catholic Church#RfC: Establishing an independent Catholicism article
(Initiated 27 days ago on 26 December 2024) Requesting closure from uninvolved impartial third party to close a discussion that has not seen a novel argument for a bit. ~ Pbritti (talk) 18:21, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
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Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 18#Category:Belarusian saints
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(Initiated 12 days ago on 9 January 2025) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:47, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
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(Initiated 8 days ago on 13 January 2025) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 08:14, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Closed by editor Timrollpickering. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. 14:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
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Other types of closing requests
Talk:Free and open-source software#Proposed merge of Open-source software and Free software into Free and open-source software
(Initiated 250 days ago on 17 May 2024) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Talk:Free and open-source software § Proposed merge of Open-source software and Free software into Free and open-source software? Thank you. — Newslinger talk 01:53, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Talk:Arab migrations to the Levant#Merger Proposal
(Initiated 119 days ago on 25 September 2024) Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. Andre🚐 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Winter fuel payment abolition backlash#Merge proposal
(Initiated 85 days ago on 29 October 2024) There are voices on both sides (ie it is not uncontroversial) so a non-involved editor is needed to evaluate consensus and close this. Thanks. PamD 09:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:You Like It Darker#Proposed merge of Finn (short story) into You Like It Darker
(Initiated 25 days ago on 27 December 2024) Proposed merge discussion originally opened on 30 May 2024, closed on 27 October 2024, and reopened on 27 December 2024 following the closure being overturned at AN. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Talk:Selected Ambient Works Volume II#Proposed merge of Stone in Focus into Selected Ambient Works Volume II
(Initiated 16 days ago on 6 January 2025) Seeking uninvolved closure; proposal is blocking GA closure czar 11:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Talk:Donald Trump#Proposal to supersede consensus #50
(Initiated 12 days ago on 10 January 2025) Seeking uninvolved closure; its degenerated into silly sniping and has clearly run its course. Slatersteven (talk) 16:46, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
Yup, the discussion does need to be closed. GoodDay (talk) 18:30, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
Talk:Xiaohongshu#Requested move 14 January 2025
(Initiated 8 days ago on 14 January 2025) Seeking uninvolved closure; its been more than 7 days and there appears to be a consensus. There haven't been new opinions for almost three days now. Queen Douglas DC-3 (talk) 22:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Closed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. 09:12, 22 January 2025 (UTC)