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{{quotebox |align=right |class=letterhead |title_bg = none |title=Psychic powers |text=<big>"Have you been reading my mind?"</big> |author=— ], 17 August 2018 |source=}}
{{quotebox |align=right |class=letterhead |title_bg = none |title=Nickname |text=<big>"JFG can now be SATAN Jr."</big> |author=— ], 5 August 2019 |source=}}
{{quotebox |align=right |class=letterhead |title_bg = none |title=Psychic powers ] |text=<big>"It's like you read my mind, JFG."</big> |author=— ], 13 August 2019 |source=}}
{{quotebox |align=right |class=letterhead |title_bg = none |title=Block log |text=<big>"a few seconds"</big> |author=— ], 19 December 2018 |source=}}
{{quotebox |align=right |class=letterhead |title_bg = none |title=Bring it on |text=<big>"You've escaped justice for now, <br/> but you can't escape it ''forever''."</big> |author=— ], <br/> 20 April 2017 |source=}}


== Thank you for your work in Project Spaceflight ==
Hmm....what's your source on that the Soyuz-U variant has been retired? According to sources at NASASpaceflight.com and Novosti Kosmonavtiki, there are at least 3 more Soyuz-U left to fly (for Progress MS-3/4/5). They even have the serial numbers of the rockets left to fly..... ] (]) 10:22, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
:Sorry, seems I was a bit quick in my eulogy for Soyuz-U :) -- ] listed the future Progress MS-3/4/5 flights on Soyuz-2.1a like the first two; I didn't go back to check sources. Let me rephrase accordingly. — ] <sup>]</sup> 11:21, 2 April 2016 (UTC)


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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Belated, but here's for all you've done for the project since 2004! ] (]) 02:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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:Many thanks, much appreciated! Happy to help document the new space age as it unfolds! — ] <sup>]</sup> 16:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)


::Have you any interest in the early days of the Space Race? Sputnik, Mariner, Gemini, and all that? We have a working group that is busily filling in the gaps. We even have our own Discord chat going. --] (]) 23:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello JFG. Thanks for edits to the list.
:::I'm interested, although I lack time to edit and research these days. Happy to keep abreast of progress, and I may dive in occasionally. — ] <sup>]</sup> 12:50, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
All NAVSTAR satellites are designed with apogee propulsion system, except for GPS IIF. See http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/navstar-2f.htm and http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/navstar-3.htm. All PAM-D upper stages (for IIR and IIRM series, e.g. http://www.n2yo.com/browse/?y=2000&m=7) have decayed, while Centaur/DCCS still stay on the graveyard orbit. {{ping|User:JFG}}
] (]) 15:01, 6 May 2016 (UTC)


== "Misplaced Pages:POVFIGHTER" listed at ] ==
== Page mover granted ==
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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect ]. The discussion will occur at ] until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> <span style="font-family:Palatino">]</span> <sup>]</sup> 05:15, 23 February 2021 (UTC)


== Mrs Calment and Mrs Calment ==
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Hello, JFG. Your account has been the "{{mono|extendedmover}}" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and ]. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a ], and move ] when moving the parent page(s).


Hi JFG,
Please take a moment to review ] for more information on this user right, especially ]. When you move a page, please remember to correct any double-redirects and make link corrections where necessary. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to ]. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status ].


I have seen your important activity on ]'s article and ] (now archives 1-4). You did a very good job in enhancing the quality of the debate and article, but for some reason your effort waned after January 2020, which gave the opportunity for some POV-pusher to get his edit lasting ''one whole year''. He removed key references. I tried to bring them back, but so is he (back). I am defending myself in the talk page but I will need support. The "conspiracy" bots don't seem to care about rational arguments.
Useful links:
* ]
* ], for article renaming requests awaiting action.


] (]) 05:30, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
If you do not want the page mover right anymore, post ], or just let me know. Thank you, and happy editing! <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">&mdash; ] // ] // ] // </small> 20:13, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks for your note. My editing activity is only occasional now. I have taken a brief look at the ongoing discussion and the current state of the article, and I have no time to contribute productively there. All I can say is that the disputed section currently looks too long. I see that some people are drafting a separate article about the controversy, which may be warranted. Whatever the outcome of that effort, I would prefer keeping things short on the main page, either by cutting tit-for-tat events as the controversy unfolded, or by writing a summary after such a page is forked out. I may help with that after the dust settles. — ] <sup>]</sup> 15:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
*<small>P.S. Congratulations on being the first user to be officially granted this right! <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">&mdash; ] // ] // ] // </small> 20:13, 23 May 2016 (UTC)</small>
::<small>Thanks {{u|Coffee}}, I feel so privileged, just took a screen grab for posterity {{p}} Seriously, many thanks for this initiative, which will surely fluidify the inner workings of the encyclopedia. — ] <sup>]</sup> 20:19, 23 May 2016 (UTC)</small>
::<small>I was wondering who the first "real" person with this would be! I think we've got most of the technical bugs worked out - but if you hit anything odd in logs, etc please let us know. — ] <sup>]</sup> 21:38, 23 May 2016 (UTC) </small>
:::<small>I just got started on the backlog with ], {{diff||721838264||worked fine}}; I'll keep you posted if I stumble on any issues. — ] <sup>]</sup> 10:54, 24 May 2016 (UTC)</small>


== The Downlink – April 2021 ==
== Precious ==


{{user precious|header=bold mettā|thanks=for quality contributions to articles, beginning with ], for clarifying the meanings of epoch, for redirects and page moves, unifying for example the pirate parties, for advocating compromise, - user of European languages and Japanese, boldly spreading ],}}
--] (]) 12:56, 21 June 2016 (UTC)


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The '''Hubble Space Telescope''' was launched into ] in 1990 and remains in operation. It was not the ], but it is one of the largest and most versatile, renowned both as a vital research tool and as a public relations boon for ]. The Hubble telescope is named after astronomer ] and is one of NASA's ].
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Astronaut ] is shown at console in the Mission Control Center, Houston, Texas during the Gemini-Titan 3 flight.
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*{{noping|Ninney}} (Rejoined on the 16<sup>th</sup> March)
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*{{noping|Ben MacTavish}} (Joined on the 27<sup>th</sup> March)
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#{{flagicon|USA}} ] – Starlink V1.0-L17 (4<sup>th</sup> at 08:24:54) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|USA}} Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L20 (11<sup>th</sup> at 08:13:29) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|China}} ] – 7A-Y2 (11<sup>th</sup> at 17:51:28) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|China}} ] – 4C-Y42 (13<sup>th</sup> at 02:19) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|USA}} Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L21 (14<sup>th</sup> at 10:01:26) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|RUS}} ] – CAS500 1 (22<sup>nd</sup> at 06:07:12) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|NZ}} ] – "They Go Up So Fast" (22<sup>nd</sup> at 22:30) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|USA}} Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L22 (24<sup>th</sup> at 08:28:24) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|RUS}} Soyuz-2.1a – ] 5 (25<sup>nd</sup> at 02:47:33) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|China}} Long March 4C – 4C-Y36 (30<sup>th</sup> at 22:45) {{Space icon|s}}
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*] – Starlink V1.0-L23
*] – ]
*] – ] 1
*] – Pléiades Neo 1
*Falcon 9 – ]
*Soyuz – OneWeb 6
*] – ]-82
*] – Tianhe 1
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||7||18||4||7||||||'''36'''
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||55||160||529||491||||9||'''1,244'''
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||38||158||1,118||2,223||||374||'''3,911'''
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|style="text-align:center"|'''Other'''
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|{{Unassessed-Class|category=Category:Unassessed_spaceflight_articles}}
||||||||||||52||'''52'''
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Since February, 28 new pages have been added to Spaceflight and ] has been promoted to featured article! 1 more article has reached GA-class, with 1 more file, 6 more C-class, 14 more start-class and 8 new stub class articles.
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|colspan=2 style="padding:5px; vertical-align:top;"|<span style="font-size:22px;">'''''In the News!'''''</span>
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* On April 9 at 07:42:41 (UTC), ] successfully launched from ] with ], ] and ] arriving at the ] 3 hours later to join ] members.
* April 12 marks the 60<sup>th</sup> year of human spaceflight, since ] launched in 1961 with ] onboard.
* April 12 also marks 40 years since the first space shuttle launch. '']'' spent 2 days, 6 hours in space in 1981 landing on April 14.
* On April 16, NASA selected the ] for crewed landing on the Moon.
* On April 17 at 01:34 (UTC), ] departed from the ISS and landed at ] over 3 hours later ending ], ], ] mission of 184 days and 23 hours.
* Also on the 17<sup>th</sup>, ] on the ISS ended marking the start of ].
* On April 19, the Mars helicopter ] completed the first powered flight using atmospheric lift on another planet.
* ''']''' came around for another year, 51 years after it was first held on April 22, 1970.
* On April 23 at 09:49:02 (UTC), ] launched at ] with ], ], ] and ] arriving at the ISS 1 day later to join Expedition 65 members.
* ''''']''''' who was the ] pilot, dies on April 28, 2021 aged 90.
* On April 29, China launched a '']'' station core module to low Earth orbit, starting a 2 year effort to build a space station.
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'''Michael Collins''' was an American ] who flew the ] ] around the ] in 1969 while his crewmates, ] and ], made the first crewed landing on the ]. He was selected as part of ]'s ] in 1963 and flew in space twice.
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The unofficial flag of earth day which is made of the "'']''" image taken onboard of the ] spacecraft with a blue background.
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*{{noping|Anshuman~Potu~Tipu}} (Joined on the 1<sup>st</sup> April)
*{{noping|DrifAssault}} (Joined on the 6<sup>th</sup> April)
*{{noping|BeachFire}} (Joined on the 13<sup>th</sup> April)
*{{noping|Wong Wei Hao}} (Joined on the 15<sup>th</sup> April)
*{{noping|Canopyspaceadmirer}} (Joined on the 19<sup>th</sup> April)
*{{noping|ThePolarcub}} (Joined on the 20<sup>th</sup> April)
*{{noping|TheColourOfFear}} (Joined on the 27<sup>th</sup> April)
*{{noping|StarshipSLS}} (Joined on the 29<sup>th</sup> April)
Number of active members: 112.<br>
Total number of members: 325.
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#{{flagicon|USA}} ] – Starlink V1.0-L23 (7<sup>th</sup> at 16:34:18) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|CHN}} ] – Shiyan 6-02 (8<sup>th</sup> at 23:01) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|RUS}} {{Space icon|c}} ] – ] (9<sup>th</sup> at 07:42:40) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|USA}} {{Space icon|c}} Falcon 9 – ] (23<sup>rd</sup> at 22:14:08) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|RUS}} ] – OneWeb 6 (25<sup>th</sup> at 22:14:08) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|USA}} ] – NROL-82 (26<sup>th</sup> at 20:47) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|CHN}} ] – Qilu 1 & Qilu 4 (27<sup>th</sup> at 03:20) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|EU}} ] – Pléiades Neo 3 (29<sup>th</sup> at 01:50:00) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|CHN}} ] – Tianhe 1 (29<sup>th</sup> at 03:23:15) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|USA}} Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L24 (29<sup>rd</sup> at 03:44) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|CHN}} ] – Yaogan 34 (27<sup>th</sup> at 03:20) {{Space icon|s}}
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*Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L25
*GSLV Mk.2 – GISAT 1
*Long March 7 – Tianzhou 2
*Atlas 5 – SBIRS GEO Flight 5
*Soyuz – OneWeb 7
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|style="padding:5px;"|<span style="font-size:22px;">'''Article Statistics'''</span><br/><span style="font-size:12px;">This data reflects values from the 30 April 2021.</span>
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||||||||||97||||'''97'''
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||11||22||35||53||||||'''121'''
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||1||49||37||48||||||'''135'''
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|{{Stub-Class|category=Category:Stub-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
||||7||244||2,191||||226||'''2,668'''
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|{{Category-Class|category=Category:Category-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
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||||||||||48||||'''48'''
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||||||||||202||||'''202'''
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|{{Portal-Class|category=Category:Portal-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
||||||||||55||||'''55'''
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|{{Project-Class|category=Category:Project-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
||||||||||57||||'''57'''
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|{{Redirect-Class|category=Category:Redirect-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
||||||||||1,131||||'''1,131'''
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|{{Template-Class|category=Category:Template-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
||||||||||495||||'''495'''
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|style="text-align:center"|'''Other'''
||||||||||38||||'''38'''
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|{{Assessed-Class}}
||126||544||2,052||5,238||3,162||611||'''11,733'''
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||||||||||||56||'''56'''
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*The Crew of ] had a successful splashdown in the Gulf of Mexico on 2<sup>nd</sup> May at 06:56:33 UTC. After they launched in November 2020 and had spent 167 days in space.
*A LongMarch 5B rocket had an uncontrolled re-entery into the atmosphere on 4<sup>th</sup> May. With any debris being reported to have landed in the Indian Ocean.
*One of Rocket Labs Electron rockets expierienced a launch malfunction 2:30 into launch causing the mission to result in failure.
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'''Creola Katherine Johnson''' was an American mathematician whose calculations of ] as a ] employee were critical to the success of the first and subsequent U.S. crewed spaceflights. The space agency noted her "historical role as one of the first ] women to work as a NASA scientist".
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#{{flagicon|USA}} ] – Starlink V1.0-L25 (4<sup>th</sup> at 19:01:07) {{Space icon|s}}
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#{{flagicon|USA}} Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L27 (9<sup>th</sup> at 06:42) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|NZ}} ] – "Running Out of Toes" (15<sup>th</sup> at 11:11) {{Space icon|f}}
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#{{flagicon|USA}} ] – ] 5 (18<sup>th</sup> at 17:37) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|CHN}} ] – ] 2D (19<sup>th</sup> at 04:03) {{Space icon|s}}
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#{{flagicon|RUS}} ] – OneWeb 7 (28<sup>th</sup> at 17:38:39) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{flagicon|CHN}} ] – ] (29<sup>th</sup> at 12:55:29) {{Space icon|s}}
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*]/E – ] 4B
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*Falcon 9 – SXM 8
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*Falcon 9 – GPS 3 SV05
*Atlas 5 – STP 3
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*] – Shenzhou 12
*] – GISAT 1
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||55||159||536||497||1||10||'''1,258'''
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== The Downlink – July 2021 ==
In the spaceflight by the years articles, the usual practice as far as I know (which is shared with all the websites dealing with such statistics, such as http://planet4589.org/space/) is that only problems related to launch vehicles that caused the spacecraft to miss its target orbit or suffer from serious damage would be counted towards any kind of failures. Problems with the spacecraft itself would not count (see e.g. the ] case).


Besides, I don't see anything that shows the problem to be non-salvageable at this moment (see e.g. http://spaceflightnow.com/2016/08/02/navy-looks-for-plan-b-to-salvage-its-newest-communications-satellite/), so I'm not sure your wording in the ] article is warranted. ] (]) 14:09, 9 August 2016 (UTC)


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:Hi {{u|Galactic Penguin SST}}, you are correct, this is a similar case to Fobos-Grun. In fact I added a long comment to clarify that the rocket was not at fault, but the stats should remain untouched; I'll revert myself on the ] graph as well. Maybe we should place a note in the page explaining what is considered a failure or partial failure, in the same way as we had to explain sometimes what is and is not a spaceflight.
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'''Lisa Marie Nowak''' is an American ], and former ] ] and ] ]. Nowak was selected by NASA for ] in 1996. She flew in space aboard {{OV|103}} during the ] mission in July 2006. In 2007, Nowak was involved in an incident that led to her dismissal from NASA and the Navy.


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:On MUOS-5 being salvageable, my money is rather on the army finding a creative way to use the bird in its present orbit, given the rather large ∂v requirements to move it to GSO if they can only rely on attitude-control thrusters. That would be similar to what happened to ] or ]. — ] <sup>]</sup> 21:13, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
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||7||19||5||7||||||'''38'''
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|{{FL-Class|category=Category:FL-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
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||||||||||100||||'''100'''
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|{{GA-Class|category=Category:GA-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
||11||24||34||54||||||'''123'''
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|{{B-Class|category=Category:B-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
||2||48||39||52||||||'''141'''
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|{{C-Class|category=Category:C-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
||55||159||544||509||1||10||'''1,278'''
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|{{Start-Class|category=Category:Start-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
||37||157||1,105||2,234||||374||'''3,907'''
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|{{Stub-Class|category=Category:Stub-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
||||8||244||2,189||||231||'''2,672'''
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|{{Portal-Class|category=Category:Portal-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
||||||||||55||||'''55'''
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|{{Project-Class|category=Category:Project-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
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|{{Template-Class|category=Category:Template-Class_spaceflight_articles}}
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|style="text-align:center"|'''Other'''
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|{{Assessed-Class}}
||126||545||2,055||5,261||3,181||617||'''11,785'''
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|{{Unassessed-Class|category=Category:Unassessed_spaceflight_articles}}
||||||||||1||76||'''77'''
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|style="text-align:center"|'''Total'''
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Hi JFG, there appears to be rough consensus at ] you opened. I personally still don't believe in the moves actually, but it looks like they will proceed, and a potential closer will likely judge that as well. Most of the templates that should undergo changes are reasonably mentioned in the RfC afaik. I'm planning on being on semi-wikibreak in the next month or so (I'll see how that goes), so I don't know if I'll have the time to enact or properly oversee the move transition and template changes. Would you be willing to to implement the conditional logic to the year nav/dab templates? I'll be around some time I guess, and let me know if you wanted a second opinion on something — ] <span style="font-size:88%">('''] ·''' ])</span> 16:31, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
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:{{re|Andy M. Wang}} Thanks for the notice. I'm happy to see that consensus is forming there. We still have about a week until closing (30 days from 19 August). I'll be quite busy myself at that time, so assuming the move is approved, we should work with the closer and any other volunteers to apply the prerequisite changes to templates. It looks like there will be a debate on the titling of year pages so that would buy us time as well. ] helps. Perhaps before you leave you could suggest an exact sequence of steps to be taken, and I can review it? When that process is settled, I don't worry about implementation. — ] <sup>]</sup> 17:18, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Andy M. Wang}} In the Talk:1 RFC, I see that you recently stroke your "(for now)" but still have an "oppose" !vote bolded. Do you really mean to oppose? — ] <sup>]</sup> 17:16, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
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::Hi JFG, yes I do mean it, still mostly per the technical concerns. I share similar feelings with some editors who think this is a solution in search of a problem. Though if the eventual closer closes the request as having consensus, that's okay by me. I'll help out if I can. Currently, I'm worried that the closer says, "move the pages", and people start acting on them, breaking nav/dab links. I'm not enthusiastic about hatching out a technical plan until the RFC closes in favor — ] <span style="font-size:88%">('''] ·''' ])</span> 17:41, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
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It got over-ridden in an {{ec}}, but please discuss your (rightfully) bold changes on talk. Thanks ;)] (]) 01:39, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
:Yep, let's talk there. — ] <sup>]</sup> 01:43, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


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*On 17<sup>th</sup> July NASA announced that scientific observations from the ] had resumed on a backup computer after being placed in a ''"safe mode"'' since June 13.
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*On 26<sup>th</sup> July The ] module was the first permanent ISS module to be decommissioned. After docking to the ISS on 17<sup>th</sup> September 2001, just under 20 years ago.
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#{{Flagicon|CHN}} ] – ] 30-10 (19<sup>th</sup> at 00:19) {{Space icon|s}}
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Hi, I noticed your edit comment on one of the Falcon articles about engine burns. All first stage reentry burns use 3 engines.
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The landing burns can either be done with 1 engine or 3 engines. 1 engine burns are safer - especially on the ocean - because they allow impact speed to be picked with greater precision (which optimally should be 0 m/s). Imagine a rocket coming in for a landing while the drone ship is rocking on 15 foot waves. If the boat is swinging up toward the rocket, the rocket needs to rapidly adjust its speed so that it doesn't crash into the deck of the ship.


However, 1 engine burns use much more fuel than 3 engine burns. They use 1/3 the fuel per unit of time (of course. One engine lit compared to three), but they have to burn for much more than three times longer than a three engine burn due to extra gravity losses. 3 engine burns on the other hand minimize gravity losses, but allow so little margin for error when coming in for a landing that the stage often lands hard, damaging the legs or even weakening the structural integrity of the whole stage if the landing is too hard. &mdash; ]<sub><small>]</small></sub> 03:19, 20 November 2016 (UTC)


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:{{re|Gopher65}} This explanation makes total sense, thanks for taking the time to message me. Have you found some sourcing other than Reddit in the meantime? — ] <sup>]</sup> 10:14, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
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#{{Flagicon|CHN}} ] – ] 3E (4<sup>th</sup> at 23:28) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{Flagicon|CHN}} ] – ] (6<sup>th</sup> at 15:53) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{Flagicon|CHN}} ] – Ningxia 1 (9<sup>th</sup> at 11:59) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{Flagicon|CHN}} ] – ] 30-10 (19<sup>th</sup> at 00:19) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{Flagicon|RUS}} ] – ] (21<sup>st</sup> at 14:58:25) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{Flagicon|CHN}} ] – Tianhui-1D (29<sup>th</sup> at 04:01) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{Flagicon|USA}} ] – Monolith (29<sup>th</sup> at 06:00) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{Flagicon|EU}} ] – ] & ] (30<sup>th</sup> at 21:00) {{Space icon|s}}</div>
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*] – ChinaSat 2E
*] – ]
*] – ] 2-1
*] – ] 1
*] – Pléiades Neo 4
*] – ]
*] – ''TBA''
*] – OneWeb 9
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== SES S.A. - Future satellite launches ==
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Hi JFG. Saw you undid yesterday my edits to this, questioning my source. I had put the source at the start of the table to refer to the whole table (is there a better way to do this?) which you (presumably) took to mean the source was for the first column (Name) only. So, I have reinstated my edits with the source (SES) on each column to make it clear (all columns of the table have been originated/updated from this source since I first included the table 4 years ago). I left your sfn_ls source at the head of the Date column (for SES-10 and SES-11) and your 'Early 2017' from sfn_ls for SES-11 instead of 'H1 2017' from SES as they could mean the same thing! Hope this makes sense to you... ] (]) 08:21, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
:{{re|Satbuff}} Yes, that's much clearer, thanks! Looks like SES-17 is not on the overview page though. I sometimes find much more detailed information on future launches in SES and Intelsat quarterly reports, perhaps this one can be sourced accordingly? — ] <sup>]</sup> 12:31, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
::I've added a source for SES-17 (I'm sure it was mentioned in the original SES overview I cited but, as you say, not now!). ] (]) 18:16, 5 December 2016 (UTC)


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Official portrait of ], an astronaut killed during the failed re-entry of the Space Shuttle ''Columbia''.
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#{{Flagicon|CHN}} ] – RSW-01 (24{{Sup|th}} at 11:15) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{Flagicon|CHN}} ] – TJSW-7 (24{{Sup|th}} at 15:41) {{Space icon|s}}
#{{Flagicon|USA}} ] – ]-27AD1 (28{{Sup|th}} at 22:35) {{Space icon|f}}
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*{{Flagicon|CHN}} ] – ] Gaofen-02F
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Hi JFG, shortening the Pope material makes sense. But the fact that Trump spoke about restructuring the intelligence services seems problematic because that sentence says nothing about Russia whereas the sentence is in a subsection about Russia. The placement of this sentence makes it sound like the restructuring is somehow a response by Trump to the intelligence services' behavior regarding Russia. Is that correct?] (]) 12:56, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
:{{re|Anythingyouwant}} I have not looked in detail; I just restored a recently-deleted citation which seemed to me appropriate in this context. We can't speculate whether Trump hinted at restructuring solely because of the Russian hysteria or due to other factors as well. It's true that this sentence looks a bit out of place as it stands in the prose. Feel free to amend the section if you have a better idea how to represent the context. Reading the Fox News report, there is a quote we could use to clarify: "The view from the Trump team is the intelligence world becoming completely politicized." What do you think? — ] <sup>]</sup> 13:14, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
::If the proposed restructuring is related to Russia, it's probably a response to leakage of the dossier that buzzfeed published, but this seems like speculation that goes way beyond the scope of that section of the BLP.] (]) 13:29, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
:::Exactly. So we should not say it's in response to that event specifically. Still, the hint at restructuring and slimming down "politicized" intelligence services is notable enough to be in the bio. — ] <sup>]</sup> 13:39, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
::::His spokesman says it's false. See "Trump is not planning to restructure spy agencies, spokesman says" by Antonio José Vielma (Thu, 5 Jan '17), CNBC.com.] (]) 13:56, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::Good. And I see you removed Josh Earnest's speculation as well. Case closed. — ] <sup>]</sup> 13:57, 17 January 2017 (UTC)


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Dearest JFG,<br />Considering the amount of experienced opposition to the position that the colorized photo is mandated by the RfC, I think the added notation in the list is inappropriate. This is the first addition to the list that has been at all controversial, and I think it sets a bad precedent for turning the list into the battleground that I was afraid of. Already we have at least one user saying in effect, "Of course it's covered by the RfC, it says so right there in the list!" So the list is not only a battleground but a weapon, too. I'm sorry to see it go down like this, and especially by your hand. The list entries are fairly useless unless they have almost everybody's support, which is why I have reserved it for only the clearest consensuses. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 14:37, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
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:{{re|Mandruss}} Thanks for your note. I am not as concerned as you are, because the consensus list and associated edit notice have largely fulfilled their purpose; this is the first time I see a battle around it. Although we worked together to set it up, neither you nor I ] the consensus list, and in the unfortunate case where we disagree on interpreting one of its items, we should both step back from it. Let editors "use it as a weapon" all they like, and note that the list itself hasn't been attacked. The image dispute will eventually get resolved either by local consensus, by RfC or at the DRN. I must also point out that I would have the exact same "back off" attitude if the page had been locked on ].
:On my addition of the new photo to item 1, I did that precisely to ''prevent'' any warring about whether this image was official enough to replace the older one. The prior consensus to wait for an official picture was almost unanimous, including editors who liked the prior image and editors who hated it. Little did I expect that some people would aggressively try to shut down the first official presidential image that was uploaded to Commons. This situation arose from the initial lack of clarity on provenance and copyright status of this portrait, and from the haste with which some editors decided to ]. Given the overwhelming Keep opinions in the ], it is very likely that the copyright status will be accepted and the image will stay. And obviously if an "officially official" portrait later emerges, we will update it. — ] <sup>]</sup> 12:45, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
::I've made my reasoning clear on the talk page, and nothing you say above addresses any of it. And it's very easy to suggest we both back away from the list entry when your desired addition is in it. How about I remove the added text and <u>then</u> we back away from it? You ok with that? &#8213;]&nbsp;] 12:52, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
::: I fully understand your reasoning and I'm sure you understand mine, which is in a nutshell "I applied the December 12 consensus". Now, you are obviously free to remove my update note on item 1 but such action three days after the fact may counter-productively re-ignite the debate on the Talk page. This note is already marked "disputed", so I guess the current status is conveyed appropriately. The key issues are now being discussed at Commons about copyright status and at DRN about consensus-building and editor conduct. Meanwhile the page is locked and we should all take a break. — ] <sup>]</sup> 13:01, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
::::Clearly, the addition did not have the result you intended, and I think that was entirely predictable. In the future, please refrain from using the list to bolster highly contested positions, regardless of whether you think the opposition position has any merit. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 13:29, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::I object to my action being characterized as "using the list to bolster highly contested positions". In my view, I was simply applying a highly-supported consensus. Obviously I was wrong in anticipating people's reactions, but that doesn't make my edits manipulative in the slightest. — ] <sup>]</sup> 13:35, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::: In your position, I would have immediately removed it when the strong opposition became known, precisely because the list should not be a battleground. You didn't do so. I don't consider that manipulative, I consider it poor judgment which compromised the integrity of the list. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 13:46, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
{{od}}Drive-by comment, this is the problem methinks: {{tq|Let editors "use it as a weapon" all they like, and note that the list itself hasn't been attacked.}} As soon as you start letting ANYBODY use the 'official' list of standing consensii as a ] tactic, you guarantee the demise of the list itself, because #1) fewer wikipedians will trust it as an unbiased non-POV list, and #2) at least ''some'' wikipedian will work to ''make'' the list POV, since that is ''why'' they are using it as a weapon in the first place. For the list to succeed in dampening bickering, it has to be impeccably neutral, never used as a 'weapon' and indeed any ''attempts'' to weaponize it quickly being squashed, and ... in my oh-so-humble opinion ... needs to have some attached nosecounts that indicate the STRENGTH of the various consensii listed. Because that would act as a pressure-release-valve, so that when user#321 disagrees with a standing consensus which is listed as item#456 of the list, they can insert a quasi-] ''that'' they disagree with item#456 ''as being consensus''. Not only will this approach help keep the list honest (only 10-to-1 consensii can be listed to keep the list from being 'weaponized') it will also keep frivilous RfCs from happening, I predict. But as we discussed before, it is hard per ] and ] to justify including nosecounts. So I'm not sure what the best way forward is, but I can definitely advise, if you see somebody, ''anybody'', trying to use the list as a bludgeon to shut their content-opponents up, then immediately remove that list-item! Because otherwise the list ''will'' become weaponized, by POV-pushers from one side or another, at some point. ] (]) 16:05, 21 January 2017 (UTC)


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The problem is that wikipedia should not be saying "no blind trust" because per ] there actually *is* a blind trust, albeit for a small percentage of Trump's assets (cash/stocks/etc). I don't know the percentage, it wasn't in the sources at the time, so maybe Objective3000's comment about reductio ad absurdum will apply ... depends on what the percentage is, which I assume will be published at some point (or an estimate thereof at least). But there are two trusts, one blind and one 'innovatively constrained to be one-eye-open-one-eye-shut' methinks. Misplaced Pages should at least have a footnote in ] explaining that the ''main'' trust is not blind per se but a smaller secondary blind trust does also exist, and linking over to the ]... or whereever the detailed discussion of the exact ''type'' of trust would be considered on-topic for the article-talkpage.


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:::: Sure, agree with that. My enumeration of the possibilities, was mostly in response to the sources ''not'' saying specifically what Trump was doing exactly. As time goes by we'll have more specifics, and correspondingly less hypothetical concerns. I was mostly arguing, in other words, that until we ''had'' some firm specific exacting complete-picture-with-percentages kinds of sources in hand, we ought NOT be saying simplistically that "Trump created ''a'' trust" in wikivoice sans qualifying footnote... thereby implying 'it' was not 'a' blind trust... since per sources available at the time, he in fact created (at least) two, and one of them was apparently blind, although specifics and percentages were left ambiguous/unknown by the sources. I'll dig for more sources, and then reopen discussion, thanks. ] (]) 12:44, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
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Hello! I don't believe you and I have collaborated on Misplaced Pages before. I appreciate all you do for Misplaced Pages, I mean that sincerely. I restored that article not because you didn't combine it correctly (you did). But an article related to the current U.S. president should have a discussion before it is deleted or redirected. If the article goes to a AfD or a redirect discussion, fair enough. But there needs to be discussion first. Thanks! ] (]) 20:24, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
:{{re|Michaelh2001}} Thanks for your comment. I suppose you are referring to ] which I merged into ] earlier today. I initially considered applying a {{t|Merge to}} proposal, but in the process of writing the rationale for the merge, I realized that there was very little specific content, so that an immediate merge would avoid duplicated efforts by editors in both articles. Note that I acted within process, as the template says: {{tq|If it is obvious that a merge would be appropriate, then you may boldly merge the pages without tagging and without discussion.}} The discussion you ask for is legitimate, so I will cross-post my reply on the article's talk page. An AfD would be inappropriate, because notability of the event is not questioned. I do not think this has the potential to expand beyond ] though, and even then ] is the perfect place to document what happened in DC yesterday. — ] <sup>]</sup> 21:10, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
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And since you lost that discussion or gave up I just feel Ive wasted a full day of my vacation on something pointless as if your argument didn´t convince people I don´t know what will. ''"Thanks Onceinawhile for adding a column showing whether any claim of sovereignty by an occupying power is recognized internationally. It proves the point that occupations and subsequent annexations are almost never recognized internationally, at least not before decades, and sometimes never until the territory acquires stateship itself (see Baltic states under the Soviet Union or East Timor under Indonesia). Accordingly, international recognition cannot be a criterion to determine whether an occupied territory has been annexed or not. — JFG talk 10:15, 14 July 2018 (UTC)"'' https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:List_of_military_occupations/Archive_5
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:Hi there, not sure you'll see this as I'm replying late and you may not be monitoring my talk page. To your point, it is well known that reaching consensus on Misplaced Pages is a tiresome endeavour. When a discussion about a longstanding issue has stalled, you can take a step back, reframe your arguments in a concise fashion, and launch an ]. Then, people interested in the subject matter, beyond the article's regulars, have 30 days to discuss the specific proposal made in the RfC, and an uninvolved editor will assess the consensus reached or lack thereof. It's not just a numbers game, as RfCs are evaluated on the strength of arguments presented and compliance with Misplaced Pages content policies, not just on how many people say yes or no. Hence the RfC process is ]. I do have some expertise in conducting RfC on complex subjects, so I'd be happy to help draft the question appropriately, and get the process rolling. Have a great day, and don't quit the 'pedia! — ] <sup>]</sup> 09:19, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
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:::: Hi. I wasn´t monitoring this page, no! As I gave up.
::But thanks for the encouraging words anyway.
::I was considering starting a RfC and ask about how best to approach it (https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2022_July_27#How_do_I_start_a_proposal?) but couldn´t be bothered in the end.
::On the topic I found an interesting short note from the EU that I think ultimately covers what the opposing side may have been trying to argue, under all the source pushing (which as you correctly reflected on earlier, could be done in either direction). https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EXPO_STU(2015)534995
::..."''in particular if the occupied territory is also illegally annexed. Legally speaking, an illegally annexed territory is occupied.''"
::This ties in with articles such as these: https://www.justsecurity.org/83365/stop-saying-annexed-territories-altern
::The guy had me all the way to the bottom of the article rooting for him, until it felt like he pulled the rug under my feet.
::Even in a situation where the person, an academic, understands that the "situation on the ground" is equivalent to something (in this case annexation) they would rather sacrifice language on the altar of orwellian thought than give any kind of ammunition to a bully, invader, occupier, etc as per the article. That position denies people their reality, it creates a sort of collective cognitive dissonance which can´t be helpful to anyone but an outsider.
::I feel, as it seems you do, that the word itself has meaning, and that it then in this case can be illegal or not. Ultimately its just one more pair of words being fought over in the age of the information war. A war I feel has no victors as it just makes fools out of us all.
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::: {{re|47.222.203.135}} My idea of the policy sections, as reflected in current contents and sourcing available, was materialized in {{oldid2|761817319|this version}} of the {{t|Donald Trump series}} sidebar. Other editors rightly claimed that we should only list subjects that already had their own articles, so I split off the largest sections and we have 4 articles. Feel free to start some of the missing articles or suggest other reasonable ways to split the issues. In terms of venue, ] would be appropriate, however you may as well be bold as I was; didn't get any backlash while everybody was focused on protests… A good time to get some serious encyclopedic work done! I did note on the talk page that I had no intent to proceed with further splits immediately, as the page has been seriously trimmed already and the individual policy articles need a lot of… polishing. — ] <sup>]</sup> 20:52, 27 January 2017 (UTC)


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:On the other side, we have a very long article for ], which got a bit out of hand during the campaign; I think that one could be pruned without losing much substance, and it needs quite a bit of copyediting as well. If you find a source mentioning the hundreds of lawsuits in which Trump has been involved in his career (of which according to the article he won the majority), that would be worth writing a list. Otherwise, it's more productive today to better organize and condense the existing stuff, and then write an overview which should replace the ] section of the main bio. — ] <sup>]</sup> 02:38, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
:Another idea: Probably the general article on Trump lawsuits should be split by topic: business lawsuits (real estate disputes, bankruptcies, media productions), personal lawsuits (divorce, defamation, pussy-grabbing claims) and political lawsuits (campaign statements, executive actions). In each section, make note of legal actions initiated by Trump as well as those filed against him. If any of those sections gets too long, it can be forked into a new article. — ] <sup>]</sup> 02:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
::Whatever you guys think is best. I would agree that the current page is probably going to become unmanageable as the number of lawsuits increase based on what Trump is doing. ] (]) 03:01, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
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I was going through the archives related to Manned/Human spaceflight entries on Misplaced Pages and I saw your entry from 2018
"I understand the motivation, however I think we shouldn't retroactively change vocabulary. "Manned spaceflight" or "human spaceflight" has been a cultural symbol for decades; suddenly calling it "crewed spaceflight" because 21st-century polite society is wary of any gendered word would be anachronistic. We should rather follow the vocabulary used by contemporary sources: for those events where most WP:RS refer to "crewed" flights, then we can use that word, otherwise keep them "manned". — JFG talk 22:54, 19 February 2018 (UTC)"
In any case, I wanted to commend you for making that argument and tell you I feel similarly. This new language that NASA is using seems to be coming from the right place, but may not end up leading us somewhere better down the road. I'm happy to talk more about my thoughts on this and hear what else you might say.


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::The emperor truly wears no clothes. A governmental service is provided to someone, "government service" is someone serving in government. --] (]) 08:39, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
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Sorry, what's awkward about "current consensuses"? And what is a "consensus wording"? &#8213;]&nbsp;] 16:44, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
:The new section title "Consensus wordings" fits better what the edit notice says ("Please review the established consensus wordings"), and avoids the awkward plural "consensuses" (at least to my tongue…) While you were writing to me, I just went through the article and {{diff||765094083||documented all the itemized consensus wordings}}. I also preserved prior links with an extra anchor. Hope you feel OK with this change. — ] <sup>]</sup> 16:51, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
::Sorry, I don't. For the first time, I strongly object to a change to that list.
:*The word consensuses isn't seen a lot, but hey it's a word in the English language. "Consensus" is a countable noun, and all countable nouns have a plural form. It's not awkward to use it. It may be relatively difficult to speak it, like some other English words, but we're not asking anybody to speak it.
:*"Wording" is not descriptive of 8 out of the 15 items: 1, 3, 5, 6, 9, 10, 13, 14.
:*The word "current" is important, per ]. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 17:01, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
:::OK, so perhaps we can discuss and find our little local consensus on the section wording? {{p}} I think that it should be consistent with the edit notice, and that one can change too. What about "Current consensus outcomes"? It takes ] into account, it is not exclusively about wordings, and it avoids the tongue-twister plural. What do you think? Then the edit notice would be amended to say "Please review the established consensus outcomes." — ] <sup>]</sup> 17:13, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
::::A consensus is an outcome - an outcome of one or more discussions. So "consensus outcome" is highly redundant. If you really find the plural that offensive, I would prefer "Current consensus" to anything yet proposed, and I can't think of anything better. I suppose "consensus" could be read as uncountable, a ]. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 17:20, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::I suppose that would work. The text at the top of the consensus section already uses the singular form to represent the collective outcomes of all the discussions: {{tq|Reverts to consensus as listed here do not count against the 1RR limit}}. Then the edit notice would just say "Please review the established consensus", or do you have a more punchy suggestion? — ] <sup>]</sup> 17:25, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::"Please review the '''current''' consensus" would work for me, and is more in line with your apparent need for consistency. I'm fine with that or "Please review the list of current consensus", your choice. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 17:30, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::I think "established" reinforces the weight of consensus for editors unfamiliar with the process. Saying just "current consensus" in the edit notice sounds like the consensus is weak and subject to change (which it is, but there are pretty high hurdles to clear). How about "Please review the current established consensus"? Too redundant? — ] <sup>]</sup> 17:35, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::::Si. I don't see it as our mission to educate editors about correct process (at least not in the edit notice), only to be consistent with it. Wikilink as ] if that helps. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 17:42, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::::On second thought, don't wikilink that. The sentence "Editors may propose a consensus change by discussion '''or editing'''" (emphasis mine) does not apply here and would be misleading; we don't need to make it easier to find. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 17:46, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::{{ec}} Alternately, we could just title it "Established consensus" to convey a firm stance, while explaining the process to change consensus in the intro text, e.g. {{tq|Naturally, as time goes by, ] by opening a discussion and gaining support for proposed ch)anges.}} — ] <sup>]</sup> 17:56, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::::Again, in my view all editors need to learn how to self-educate using existing p&g (and by asking questions for clarification); that benefits both them and the project. In the long run I don't think it helps either them or the project to spoon-feed and hand-hold. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 18:09, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::Sure, however wouldn't you agree that the edit notice needs to convey a sense of firmness? After all, preventing perennial changes to settled issues was the goal of this setup, and it looks rather successful at the moment. And you didn't say whether you would agree to calling this section "Established consensus". On my side, I can live with or without hand-holding, as long as we do not appear inflexible. — ] <sup>]</sup> 18:22, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::"Firm" and "flexible" appear to be in tension. I think the NOTE at the top of the section adequately conveys firmness, essentially saying that any edits against those consensuses (sorry!) may be reverted at will, not subject to 1RR, and the word "current" in the heading balances that with flexibility per CCC. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 19:18, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::: OK. I'll switch the section title to "Current consensus" and the edit notice to "current established consensus", that should take care of the flexible firmness… — ] <sup>]</sup> 19:26, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::::{{thank you}} for your firm flexibility. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 20:17, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
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:I'm not online 24/7. Sue me. — ] <sup>]</sup> 07:30, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
::If I was you, I'd notta come back with that a scant 3 hours later. See, that's why I said 8 hours. I'll wait another 8, courtesy first! ]] 14:56, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
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::::I was trying to be cordial and give you a chance to avoid that. Once an AE case comes up, you may very well decide to "spend hours checking" -- it would have been so much better for everyone if you did so in private. And of course the policy at WP is that we all must "check" our edits before we make them, so that they conform to policy and ARBAP2 sanctions and do ''not'' need to be "checked" later. ]] 18:19, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
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Belated, but here's for all you've done for the project since 2004! Neopeius (talk) 02:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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Have you any interest in the early days of the Space Race? Sputnik, Mariner, Gemini, and all that? We have a working group that is busily filling in the gaps. We even have our own Discord chat going. --Neopeius (talk) 23:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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Mrs Calment and Mrs Calment

Hi JFG,

I have seen your important activity on Jeanne Calment's article and talk page (now archives 1-4). You did a very good job in enhancing the quality of the debate and article, but for some reason your effort waned after January 2020, which gave the opportunity for some POV-pusher to get his edit lasting one whole year. He removed key references. I tried to bring them back, but so is he (back). I am defending myself in the talk page but I will need support. The "conspiracy" bots don't seem to care about rational arguments.

Kahlores (talk) 05:30, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. My editing activity is only occasional now. I have taken a brief look at the ongoing discussion and the current state of the article, and I have no time to contribute productively there. All I can say is that the disputed section currently looks too long. I see that some people are drafting a separate article about the controversy, which may be warranted. Whatever the outcome of that effort, I would prefer keeping things short on the main page, either by cutting tit-for-tat events as the controversy unfolded, or by writing a summary after such a page is forked out. I may help with that after the dust settles. — JFG 15:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

The Downlink – April 2021

The Downlink The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
1 March 2021 — 31 March 2021
Volume 2 — Issue 6
Spaceflight Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Open tasks • Popular pages • The Downlink
In the News!
  • On March 7 the Wide Field Camera 3 on Hubble Space Telescope entered safe mode after a software error was detected. And took days until the camera was fully active again. read more
  • The Space Launch System completed a full-duration (8 minutes and 20 seconds) static fire of the core stage on March 18, after an earler test in January failed to complete the test.

Featured Content

  • The Apollo 12 article was promoted to a Featured Article on March 27, 2021. After being nominated by Wehwalt who is a significant contributor to the article.
Article of the month.
Hubble Space Telescope

The Hubble Space Telescope was launched into low Earth orbit in 1990 and remains in operation. It was not the first space telescope, but it is one of the largest and most versatile, renowned both as a vital research tool and as a public relations boon for astronomy. The Hubble telescope is named after astronomer Edwin Hubble and is one of NASA's Great Observatories.

Image of the month.

Astronaut Roger B. Chaffee is shown at console in the Mission Control Center, Houston, Texas during the Gemini-Titan 3 flight.

Members

New Members:

Number of active members: 104. Total number of members: 316.

March Launches
All times stated here are in UTC.

  1. United States Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L17 (4 at 08:24:54) Success Success
  2. United States Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L20 (11 at 08:13:29) Success Success
  3. China Long March 7A – 7A-Y2 (11 at 17:51:28) Success Success
  4. China Long March 4C – 4C-Y42 (13 at 02:19) Success Success
  5. United States Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L21 (14 at 10:01:26) Success Success
  6. Russia Soyuz-2.1a – CAS500 1 (22 at 06:07:12) Success Success
  7. New Zealand Electron – "They Go Up So Fast" (22 at 22:30) Success Success
  8. United States Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L22 (24 at 08:28:24) Success Success
  9. Russia Soyuz-2.1a – OneWeb 5 (25 at 02:47:33) Success Success
  10. China Long March 4C – 4C-Y36 (30 at 22:45) Success Success

April Launches
Launch dates can change. See a current list: here.

Article Statistics
This data reflects values from the 31 March 2021.
Spaceflight articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 7 18 4 7 36
FL 4 4 8
FM 97 97
GA 11 22 36 53 122
B 1 48 37 45 131
C 55 160 529 491 9 1,244
Start 38 158 1,118 2,223 374 3,911
Stub 6 245 2,185 227 2,663
List 14 130 79 211 434
Category 1,033 1,033
Disambig 48 48
File 199 199
Portal 55 55
Project 57 57
Redirect 1 1,123 1,124
Template 493 493
Other 37 37
Assessed 126 542 2,052 5,220 3,148 610 11,698
Unassessed 52 52
Total 126 542 2,052 5,220 3,148 662 11,750
Monthly Changes

Since February, 28 new pages have been added to Spaceflight and Apollo 12 has been promoted to featured article! 1 more article has reached GA-class, with 1 more file, 6 more C-class, 14 more start-class and 8 new stub class articles.

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The Downlink – May 2021

The Downlink The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
1 April 2021 — 30 April 2021
Volume 1 — Issue 7
Spaceflight Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Open tasks • Popular pages • The Downlink
In the News!
Article of the month.
Michael Collins

Michael Collins was an American astronaut who flew the Apollo 11 command module Columbia around the Moon in 1969 while his crewmates, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, made the first crewed landing on the surface. He was selected as part of NASA's third group of 14 astronauts in 1963 and flew in space twice.

Image of the month.

The unofficial flag of earth day which is made of the "Blue Marble" image taken onboard of the Apollo 17 spacecraft with a blue background.

Members

New Members:

Number of active members: 112.
Total number of members: 325.

April Launches
All times stated here are in UTC.

  1. United States Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L23 (7 at 16:34:18) Success Success
  2. China Long March 4B – Shiyan 6-02 (8 at 23:01) Success Success
  3. Russia Crewed mission Soyuz-2.1a – MS-18 (9 at 07:42:40) Success Success
  4. United States Crewed mission Falcon 9 – Crew-2 (23 at 22:14:08) Success Success
  5. Russia Soyuz-2.1b – OneWeb 6 (25 at 22:14:08) Success Success
  6. United States Delta IV Heavy – NROL-82 (26 at 20:47) Success Success
  7. China Long March 6 – Qilu 1 & Qilu 4 (27 at 03:20) Success Success
  8. European Union Vega – Pléiades Neo 3 (29 at 01:50:00) Success Success
  9. China Long March 6 – Tianhe 1 (29 at 03:23:15) Success Success
  10. United States Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L24 (29 at 03:44) Success Success
  11. China Long March 6 – Yaogan 34 (27 at 03:20) Success Success

May Launches
Launch dates can change. See a current list: here.

  • Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L25
  • GSLV Mk.2 – GISAT 1
  • Long March 7 – Tianzhou 2
  • Atlas 5 – SBIRS GEO Flight 5
  • Soyuz – OneWeb 7
 Article Statistics
This data reflects values from the 30 April 2021.
Spaceflight articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 7 18 4 7 36
FL 4 4 8
FM 97 97
GA 11 22 35 53 121
B 1 49 37 48 135
C 56 160 534 489 11 1,250
Start 37 158 1,115 2,235 373 3,918
Stub 7 244 2,191 226 2,668
List 14 130 79 211 1 435
Category 1,033 1,033
Disambig 48 48
File 202 202
Portal 55 55
Project 57 57
Redirect 1,131 1,131
Template 495 495
Other 38 38
Assessed 126 544 2,052 5,238 3,162 611 11,733
Unassessed 56 56
Total 126 544 2,052 5,238 3,162 667 11,789
Monthly Changes

Since March, 39 new pages have been added to Spaceflight. There is 1 less GA-class, with 3 more files, 4 more B-class, 6 more C-class, 7 more start-class and 5 new stub-class articles.

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The Downlink – June 2021

The Downlink The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
1 May 2021 — 31 May 2021
Volume 1 — Issue 8
Spaceflight Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Open tasks • Popular pages • The Downlink
In the News!
  • The Crew of SpaceX Crew-1 had a successful splashdown in the Gulf of Mexico on 2 May at 06:56:33 UTC. After they launched in November 2020 and had spent 167 days in space.
  • A LongMarch 5B rocket had an uncontrolled re-entery into the atmosphere on 4 May. With any debris being reported to have landed in the Indian Ocean.
  • One of Rocket Labs Electron rockets expierienced a launch malfunction 2:30 into launch causing the mission to result in failure.
  • Images have been released after the landing of Zhurong rover on Mars on 14 May.

Featured Content

Article of the month.
Katherine Johnson

Creola Katherine Johnson was an American mathematician whose calculations of orbital mechanics as a NASA employee were critical to the success of the first and subsequent U.S. crewed spaceflights. The space agency noted her "historical role as one of the first African-American women to work as a NASA scientist".

Image of the month.

Astronaut Clayton Anderson wis shown as a water bubble floats in the middeck of space shuttle Discovery during the STS-131 mission.

Members

New Members:

Number of active members: 116. Total number of members: 329.

May Launches
All times stated here are in UTC.

  1. United States Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L25 (4 at 19:01:07) Success Success
  2. China Long March 2C – Yaogan 30-08 (6 at 18:11) Success Success
  3. United States Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L27 (9 at 06:42) Success Success
  4. New Zealand Electron – "Running Out of Toes" (15 at 11:11) Failure Failure
  5. United States Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L26 (15 at 22:56) Success Success
  6. United States Atlas 5 – SBIRS-GEO 5 (18 at 17:37) Success Success
  7. China Long March 4B – Haiyang 2D (19 at 04:03) Success Success
  8. United States Falcon 9 – Starlink V1.0-L28 (26 at 18:59) Success Success
  9. Russia Soyuz-2.1b – OneWeb 7 (28 at 17:38:39) Success Success
  10. China Long March 7 – Tianzhou 2 (29 at 12:55:29) Success Success

June Launches
Launch dates can change. See a current list: here.

Article Statistics
This data reflects values from the 31 May 2021.
Spaceflight articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 7 19 4 7 37
FL 4 4 8
FM 98 98
GA 11 22 35 54 122
B 2 48 38 49 137
C 55 159 536 497 1 10 1,258
Start 37 158 1,112 2,238 372 3,917
Stub 7 245 2,190 231 2,673
List 14 130 79 211 1 435
Category 1,034 1,034
Disambig 48 48
File 202 202
Portal 55 55
Project 57 57
Redirect 1 1,133 1 1,135
Template 501 501
Other 1 38 39
Assessed 126 543 2,053 5,252 3,173 615 11,762
Unassessed 1 71 72
Total 126 543 2,053 5,252 3,174 686 11,834
Monthly Changes

Since April, 45 pages have been added to Spaceflight. 1 article reached FA-Class and 1 image reached FM-Class. There is 1 more GA class article, with 2 more B-class, 8 more C-class, 1 less start-class and 5 new stub-class articles.

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Category:Spacecraft launched by Saturn rockets has been nominated for deletion

Category:Spacecraft launched by Saturn rockets has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. fgnievinski (talk) 19:15, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Category:Spacecraft launched by Electron rockets has been nominated for deletion

Category:Spacecraft launched by Electron rockets has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. fgnievinski (talk) 19:17, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:45, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your continued kindness and spirit, Gerda Arendt <3 — JFG 12:46, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

The Downlink – July 2021

The Downlink The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
1 June 2021 — 30 June 2021
Volume 1 — Issue 9
Spaceflight Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Open tasks • Popular pages • The Downlink
Featured Content!
Article of the month.
Lisa Nowak

Lisa Marie Nowak is an American aeronautical engineer, and former NASA astronaut and United States Navy captain. Nowak was selected by NASA for NASA Astronaut Group 16 in 1996. She flew in space aboard Space Shuttle Discovery during the STS-121 mission in July 2006. In 2007, Nowak was involved in an incident that led to her dismissal from NASA and the Navy.

This article was promoted to featured status last month!

Article Statistics
This data reflects values from the 30 June 2021.
Spaceflight articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 7 19 5 7 38
FL 1 4 4 9
FM 100 100
GA 11 24 34 54 123
B 2 48 39 52 141
C 55 159 544 509 1 10 1,278
Start 37 157 1,105 2,234 374 3,907
Stub 8 244 2,189 231 2,672
List 14 129 79 211 1 434
Category 1,032 1,032
Disambig 49 49
File 203 203
Portal 55 55
Project 68 68
Redirect 1 1 1,134 1 1,137
Template 501 501
Other 38 38
Assessed 126 545 2,055 5,261 3,181 617 11,785
Unassessed 1 76 77
Total 126 545 2,055 5,261 3,182 693 11,862
Image of the month.

Offical portrait of Edwin E. Aldrin Jr. (Buzz Aldrin) who was the pilot on the Apollo 11 mission.

This image was promoted to featured status last month!

Members

New Members:

Number of active members: 118. Total number of members: 331.
Monthly Changes

Since May 28 pages ahve been added to Spaceflight. 1 article reached FA-Class, 1 list reached FL-class & 2 images reached FM-Class. There is 1 more GA class article, as well as 1 more file page. There are 4 more B class articles, 20 more C class articles, 10 less start class articles & 1 less stub article.

BOOKS are no longer supported by the WikiProject and are in the process of being deleted! See WP:BOOKSDEP & here for more.

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The Downlink – August 2021

The Downlink The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
1 July 2021 — 31 July 2021
Volume 1 — Issue 10
Spaceflight Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Open tasks • Popular pages • The Downlink
In the News!
  • On 11 July Virgin Galactic had their first fully crewed mission to the edge of space with Richard Branson onboard in SpaceShipTwo VSS Unity.
  • On 17 July NASA announced that scientific observations from the Hubble Space Telescope had resumed on a backup computer after being placed in a "safe mode" since June 13.
  • On 20 July Blue Origin had their first fully crewed mission to the edge of space with Jeff Bezos onboard in a New Shepard capsule.
  • On 26 July The Pirs module was the first permanent ISS module to be decommissioned. After docking to the ISS on 17 September 2001, just under 20 years ago.
  • On 29 July The ISS was moved out of its normal orientation after the Nauka module (a new Russian module) was docked and started firing its thrusters.
Article of the month.
Shuttle-Centaur

Shuttle-Centaur was a version of the Centaur upper stage rocket designed to be carried aloft inside the Space Shuttle. Two variants were developed: Centaur G-Prime and Centaur G. The powerful Centaur upper stage allowed for heavier deep space probes, and for them to reach Jupiter sooner. However, neither variant ever flew on a Shuttle.

Image of the month.

This is an Extreme Deep Field image taken from the Hubble Space Telescope, released by NASA on September 25th, 2012. With exposure dates from July 2002 to March 2012.

Members

New Members:

Number of active members: 120. Total number of members: 333.

July Launches
All times stated here are in UTC.

  1. Russia Soyuz-2.1b – OneWeb 8 (1 at 12:48:33) Success Success
  2. China Long March 2D – Jilin-1 (3 at 02:51) Success Success
  3. China Long March 4C – Fengyun 3E (4 at 23:28) Success Success
  4. China Long March 3C/E – Tianlian I-05 (6 at 15:53) Success Success
  5. China Long March 6 – Ningxia 1 (9 at 11:59) Success Success
  6. China Long March 2C – Yaogan 30-10 (19 at 00:19) Success Success
  7. Russia Proton-M – Nauka (21 at 14:58:25) Success Success
  8. China Long March 2D – Tianhui-1D (29 at 04:01) Success Success
  9. United States Electron – Monolith (29 at 06:00) Success Success
  10. European Union Ariane 5 ECA – SO-D2 & Eutelsat (30 at 21:00) Success Success

August Launches
Launch dates can change. See a current list: here.

Article Statistics
This data reflects values from the 31 July 2021.
Spaceflight articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 7 19 5 7 38
FL 1 4 4 9
FM 102 102
GA 11 24 34 54 123
B 2 48 40 52 142
C 56 160 545 510 12 1,283
Start 36 157 1,106 2,244 374 3,917
Stub 9 244 2,188 233 2,674
List 14 126 79 218 1 438
Category 1,032 1,032
Disambig 49 49
File 207 207
Portal 55 55
Project 68 68
Redirect 2 1 1 1,134 1 1,139
Template 501 501
Other 31 31
Assessed 126 546 2,058 5,278 3,179 621 11,808
Unassessed 3 1 74 78
Total 126 546 2,058 5,281 3,180 695 11,886
Monthly Changes

Since June: 24 pages have been added to spaceflight. There are 4 more files. There is 1 more B class article, 5 more C class articles, 10 more start class articles & 2 more stub class articles.
The 2 additional FM class have been FM for a few years, they just registered this month.

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The Downlink – August 2021

The Downlink The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
1 July 2021 — 31 July 2021
Volume 1 — Issue 10
Spaceflight Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Open tasks • Popular pages • The Downlink
In the News!
  • On 11 July Virgin Galactic had their first fully crewed mission to the edge of space with Richard Branson onboard in SpaceShipTwo VSS Unity.
  • On 17 July NASA announced that scientific observations from the Hubble Space Telescope had resumed on a backup computer after being placed in a "safe mode" since June 13.
  • On 20 July Blue Origin had their first fully crewed mission to the edge of space with Jeff Bezos onboard in a New Shepard capsule.
  • On 26 July The Pirs module was the first permanent ISS module to be decommissioned. After docking to the ISS on 17 September 2001, just under 20 years ago.
  • On 29 July The ISS was moved out of its normal orientation after the Nauka module (a new Russian module) was docked and started firing its thrusters.
Article of the month.
Shuttle-Centaur

Shuttle-Centaur was a version of the Centaur upper stage rocket designed to be carried aloft inside the Space Shuttle. Two variants were developed: Centaur G-Prime and Centaur G. The powerful Centaur upper stage allowed for heavier deep space probes, and for them to reach Jupiter sooner. However, neither variant ever flew on a Shuttle.

Image of the month.

This is an Extreme Deep Field image taken from the Hubble Space Telescope, released by NASA on September 25th, 2012. With exposure dates from July 2002 to March 2012.

Members

New Members:

Number of active members: 120. Total number of members: 333.

July Launches
All times stated here are in UTC.

  1. Russia Soyuz-2.1b – OneWeb 8 (1 at 12:48:33) Success Success
  2. China Long March 2D – Jilin-1 (3 at 02:51) Success Success
  3. China Long March 4C – Fengyun 3E (4 at 23:28) Success Success
  4. China Long March 3C/E – Tianlian I-05 (6 at 15:53) Success Success
  5. China Long March 6 – Ningxia 1 (9 at 11:59) Success Success
  6. China Long March 2C – Yaogan 30-10 (19 at 00:19) Success Success
  7. Russia Proton-M – Nauka (21 at 14:58:25) Success Success
  8. China Long March 2D – Tianhui-1D (29 at 04:01) Success Success
  9. United States Electron – Monolith (29 at 06:00) Success Success
  10. European Union Ariane 5 ECA – SO-D2 & Eutelsat (30 at 21:00) Success Success

August Launches
Launch dates can change. See a current list: here.

Article Statistics
This data reflects values from the 31 July 2021.
Spaceflight articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 7 19 5 7 38
FL 1 4 4 9
FM 102 102
GA 11 24 34 54 123
B 2 48 40 52 142
C 56 160 545 510 12 1,283
Start 36 157 1,106 2,244 374 3,917
Stub 9 244 2,188 233 2,674
List 14 126 79 218 1 438
Category 1,032 1,032
Disambig 49 49
File 207 207
Portal 55 55
Project 68 68
Redirect 2 1 1 1,134 1 1,139
Template 501 501
Other 31 31
Assessed 126 546 2,058 5,278 3,179 621 11,808
Unassessed 3 1 74 78
Total 126 546 2,058 5,281 3,180 695 11,886
Monthly Changes

Since June: 24 pages have been added to spaceflight. There are 4 more files. There is 1 more B class article, 5 more C class articles, 10 more start class articles & 2 more stub class articles.
The 2 additional FM class have been FM for a few years, they just registered this month.

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The Downlink – September 2021

The Downlink The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
1 August 2021 — 31 August 2021
Volume 1 — Issue 11
Spaceflight Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Open tasks • Popular pages • The Downlink
In the News!
  • On 12 August a GSLV Mk.2 rocket with the EOS-03 Earth observation satellite as a payload encountered a third stage failure and crashed back into the ground after reaching a maximum altitude of 140km (87 miles).
  • On 20 August a 5 hour 55 minute spacewalk was completed by chinese astronauts Nie Haisheng and Liu Boming on the Tiangong space station.
  • On 28 August an Astra rocket had an engine failure at launch, but managed to recover and fly to the upper atmosphere before leaving its flight corridor, resulting in flight temination.
Article of the month.
Apollo 7

Apollo 7 was the first crewed flight in NASA's Apollo program, and saw the resumption of human spaceflight by the agency after the fire that killed the three Apollo 1 astronauts. The Apollo 7 crew was commanded by Walter M. Schirra, with command module pilot Donn F. Eisele and lunar module pilot R. Walter Cunningham.

Image of the month.

Official portrait of Ilan Ramon, an astronaut killed during the failed re-entry of the Space Shuttle Columbia.

Members

New Members:

Number of active members: 122. Total number of members: 335.

August Launches
All times stated here are in UTC.

  1. China Hyperbola-1 – Jilin-1 (3 at 07:39) Failure Failure
  2. China Long March 6 – KL-Beta A/B (4 at 11:01) Success Success
  3. China Long March 3B/E – ChinaSat 2E (5 at 16:30:05) Success Success
  4. United States Antares 230+ – Cygnus NG-16 (10 at 22:01:05) Success Success
  5. India GSLV Mk II – EOS-03 (GISAT-1) (12 at 00:13) Failure Failure
  6. Europe France Vega – Pléiades-Neo 4 (17 at 01:47:06) Success Success
  7. China Long March 4B – Tianhui-2 02 (18 at 22:32) Success Success
  8. Russia Kazakhstan Soyuz-2.1b – OneWeb 9 (21 at 22:13:40) Success Success
  9. China Long March 2C – RSW-01 (24 at 11:15) Success Success
  10. China Long March 3B/E – TJSW-7 (24 at 15:41) Success Success
  11. United States Rocket 3 – STP-27AD1 (28 at 22:35) Failure Failure
  12. United States Falcon 9 – CRS-23 (29 at 07:14:49) Success Success

September Launches
Launch dates can change. See a current list: here.

Article Statistics
This data reflects values from the 31 August 2021.
Spaceflight articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 7 19 5 7 38
FL 1 4 4 9
FM 102 102
GA 10 24 34 54 122
B 4 48 41 53 146
C 57 160 546 530 1,293
Start 34 157 1,106 2,262 374 3,933
Stub 9 244 2,197 1 234 2,685
List 14 124 79 225 1 443
Category 1,033 1,033
Disambig 1 49 50
File 206 206
Portal 55 55
Project 58 58
Redirect 2 1,140 1,142
Template 504 504
Other 22 22
Assessed 126 544 2,059 5,333 3,170 609 11,841
Unassessed 53 53
Total 126 544 2,059 5,333 3,170 662 11,894
Monthly Changes

Since July: 8 pages have been added to spaceflight. There is 1 less file. There is 1 less GA class article and are 4 less B-class, 10 more C-class, 17 more start-class and 11 new stub-class articles.

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New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

New Page Review queue September 2021

Hello JFG,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Misplaced Pages and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

If you are no longer very active on Misplaced Pages or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.

Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.

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November 2021 backlog drive

New Page Patrol | November 2021 Backlog Drive
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The Downlink – October 2021

The Downlink The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
1 September 2021 — 31 October 2021
Volume 1 — Issue 12
Spaceflight Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Open tasks • Popular pages • The Downlink
Featured Content!
Members

New Members: No new members.

Number of active members: 127. Total number of members: 340.

October Launches
All times stated here are in UTC. See a current list: here.

  1. Russia Kazakhstan Crewed mission Soyuz-2.1a – Soyuz MS-19 (5 at 08:55:02) Success Success
  2. Russia Soyuz-2.1b – OneWeb (14 at 09:40:10) Success Success
  3. China Long March 2D – Solar Explorer (14 at 10:51) Success Success
  4. China Long March 2F – Shenzhou 13 (15 at 16:23:56) Success Success
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  7. China Long March 3B/E – Shijian-21 (24 at 01:27:03) Success Success
  8. Europe France Ariane 5 – SES-17 (24 at 02:10) Success Success
  9. Japan H-IIA – QZS-1R (26 at 02:19:37) Success Success
  10. China Kuaizhou – Jilin-1 Gaofen-02F (27 at 06:19) Success Success
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Spaceflight articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
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FA 7 21 6 7 41
FL 2 4 4 10
FM 103 103
GA 11 27 36 54 128
B 4 47 40 56 147
C 58 159 560 587 1,364
Start 33 160 1,108 2,331 334 3,966
Stub 11 243 2,186 217 2,657
List 15 126 85 230 1 457
Category 1 1,042 1,043
Disambig 51 51
File 212 212
Portal 55 55
Project 59 59
Redirect 1 1,147 1,148
Template 505 505
Other 23 23
Assessed 128 553 2,082 5,457 3,197 552 11,969
Total 128 553 2,082 5,457 3,197 552 11,969
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You made the same point 3 years ago very ellequently

And since you lost that discussion or gave up I just feel Ive wasted a full day of my vacation on something pointless as if your argument didn´t convince people I don´t know what will. "Thanks Onceinawhile for adding a column showing whether any claim of sovereignty by an occupying power is recognized internationally. It proves the point that occupations and subsequent annexations are almost never recognized internationally, at least not before decades, and sometimes never until the territory acquires stateship itself (see Baltic states under the Soviet Union or East Timor under Indonesia). Accordingly, international recognition cannot be a criterion to determine whether an occupied territory has been annexed or not. — JFG talk 10:15, 14 July 2018 (UTC)" https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:List_of_military_occupations/Archive_5

What makes you still motivated to edit Misplaced Pages and why do you think that people didn´t accept this argument? A quote that comes by is that most people don´t listen to hear and understand but to reply. I.e. they are set to reply and argue even before they hear the other side. If that is the case, whats the point of even having Misplaced Pages articles for politicized sections?83.252.116.25 (talk) 09:01, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi there, not sure you'll see this as I'm replying late and you may not be monitoring my talk page. To your point, it is well known that reaching consensus on Misplaced Pages is a tiresome endeavour. When a discussion about a longstanding issue has stalled, you can take a step back, reframe your arguments in a concise fashion, and launch an RfC. Then, people interested in the subject matter, beyond the article's regulars, have 30 days to discuss the specific proposal made in the RfC, and an uninvolved editor will assess the consensus reached or lack thereof. It's not just a numbers game, as RfCs are evaluated on the strength of arguments presented and compliance with Misplaced Pages content policies, not just on how many people say yes or no. Hence the RfC process is not a vote. I do have some expertise in conducting RfC on complex subjects, so I'd be happy to help draft the question appropriately, and get the process rolling. Have a great day, and don't quit the 'pedia! — JFG 09:19, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
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Hi. I wasn´t monitoring this page, no! As I gave up.
But thanks for the encouraging words anyway.
I was considering starting a RfC and ask about how best to approach it (https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2022_July_27#How_do_I_start_a_proposal?) but couldn´t be bothered in the end.
On the topic I found an interesting short note from the EU that I think ultimately covers what the opposing side may have been trying to argue, under all the source pushing (which as you correctly reflected on earlier, could be done in either direction). https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EXPO_STU(2015)534995
..."in particular if the occupied territory is also illegally annexed. Legally speaking, an illegally annexed territory is occupied."
This ties in with articles such as these: https://www.justsecurity.org/83365/stop-saying-annexed-territories-altern
The guy had me all the way to the bottom of the article rooting for him, until it felt like he pulled the rug under my feet.
Even in a situation where the person, an academic, understands that the "situation on the ground" is equivalent to something (in this case annexation) they would rather sacrifice language on the altar of orwellian thought than give any kind of ammunition to a bully, invader, occupier, etc as per the article. That position denies people their reality, it creates a sort of collective cognitive dissonance which can´t be helpful to anyone but an outsider.
I feel, as it seems you do, that the word itself has meaning, and that it then in this case can be illegal or not. Ultimately its just one more pair of words being fought over in the age of the information war. A war I feel has no victors as it just makes fools out of us all.
I stumbled over this by the way, because I was so annoyed at a small detail in a page I happened to visit that I had to comment on it, and then clicked on my IP again. Apparently the Wikiepdia page for the Fall of Mosul has a very poorly photoshopped picture of Mosul during its fall as the one and only descriptive image in it. I do wonder what happened to the original. I tried reverse image searching but can´t find it. I wonder if it had something gruesome on it, or why else would it be photoshopped? But ultimately I was just curious as to how it happened to have been selected at all! :)
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Hi there, I was going through the archives related to Manned/Human spaceflight entries on Misplaced Pages and I saw your entry from 2018 "I understand the motivation, however I think we shouldn't retroactively change vocabulary. "Manned spaceflight" or "human spaceflight" has been a cultural symbol for decades; suddenly calling it "crewed spaceflight" because 21st-century polite society is wary of any gendered word would be anachronistic. We should rather follow the vocabulary used by contemporary sources: for those events where most WP:RS refer to "crewed" flights, then we can use that word, otherwise keep them "manned". — JFG talk 22:54, 19 February 2018 (UTC)" In any case, I wanted to commend you for making that argument and tell you I feel similarly. This new language that NASA is using seems to be coming from the right place, but may not end up leading us somewhere better down the road. I'm happy to talk more about my thoughts on this and hear what else you might say.

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