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| ==What is going on?== | |||
| Please explain and . This notice serves as a warning about ]s. ] 23:53, 4 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :Floq, mind ]. TRM is pretty good at yanking people's chain; don't give him the pleasure of responding. ] (]) 01:19, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hi ], you're being a much better admin than El C. Noted, thanks, and you're right of course, I'm well aware of that, but am occasionally imperfect. (Parenthetically, always glad when I see you still poking around here occasionally. We don't really deserve you. Just went out to dinner with Mrs. Floquenbeam, no kids, and had an interesting Kentucky Bourbon English Ale. In a much better mood. Hope you and yours are well.) --] (]) 03:21, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::::'''OFF TOPIC''': Floquenbeam, the first half of that drink sounds god-awful(I prefer single malt scotch), whereas the second half sounds pretty good. --] (]) 08:11, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::I'll take that slight, and counter with: you can't speak to other users this way and simply go about your business. If that position makes me unpopular, so be it. ] 03:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Oh, it saddens me when two nice boys don't get along. Floq, El C is a decent admin. He didn't go about this in quite the way I would have but then not everyone has my boundless wisdom, personal charm and animal magnetism. El C, Floq has admitted that he slipped up. No need to keep making the point. Now let's all go have one of those Kentucky Bourbon English Ales. ] (]) 03:55, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Oh, it's not that much of a slight; you can be a worse admin than SBHB would be (if he was an admin) and still theoretically be in the top 10%. --] (]) 04:11, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| {{hat|No thank you}} | |||
| ::{{U|Shock Brigade Harvester Boris}} It was hardly baiting. It was a request to do something about a woefully under-referenced article which was about to appear on the main page. The rapid escalation to such an egregious personal attack was completely unwarranted, but as it's the second time in a short period that this admin has resorted to direct and overt breaches of NPA with impunity, I think we can safely say that he's one of those admins who has that Arbcom immunity badge. ] (]) 08:00, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::The hypocrisy. It hurts. ] <sup>]] ]]</sup> 09:08, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Please re-read ], both of you. Your standards should be far higher, not lower, than us mere editors. Both of you failed. ] (]) 10:32, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::::], Floq. ] <sup>]] ]]</sup> 21:53, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
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| I won't comment on the rest of this, but I find especially disappointing coming from a functionary. --''']]]''' 21:56, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :"Functionary" has always struck me as a stupid, embarrassing title. I'm not a "functionary", I can oversight stuff. But anyway, if people who can oversight stuff are not allowed to get pissed off at months of continuing snark, and you'd like me to no longer be one, tell someone I respect to suggest I resign, and I will. --] (]) 22:00, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::"For most of us, being described as a functionary wouldn't be a compliment. The word refers especially to a person of lower rank, with little or no authority, who must carry out someone else's orders. Bureaucrat is often a synonym. However, functionary can also refer to the world beyond government and offices; a character in a play, for example, could be called a functionary if it was obvious that her sole function was to keep the plot moving." () --] (]) 22:22, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::It is not exactly reassuring to folks to see gross incivility from someone who has access to oversighted and highly sensitive information. I don't want you to resign, but you need to dial it back a bit. FWIW, I have voiced similar concerns about other CU/OS/stewards who have done similar things (including on this wiki) and I would do so again. --''']]]''' 22:12, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::{{U|Rschen7754}} I think he gets the message, maybe time to stop winding him up - after all, you're '''not''' TRM, {{U|Floquenbeam}} don't let yourself get baited again. ] (]) 22:15, 5 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I hope Flo gets the message. I respect him, but I must note a non-admin would likely be blocked for those edits. ] (]) 01:54, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Is this TRM's tagteam turning up? Has Floq repeated the behaviour since Boris advised him to mind ]? Have any of the admins piling in paid any attention to ]? ] (]) 02:01, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::::My hope is that admins apply warnings for personal attacks, unless they're especially egregious. That's certainly my '''' When this fails to happen, it's ]. A block in this case would have been excessive and an escalation, regardless of user-rights. ] 02:18, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | :Happy New Year, Gerda! I actually had a chance to click on one of your watch/listen links! Very cool. --] (]) 15:30, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| I don't think I have the words to reflect the disappointment I felt on reading this . I disagree with those above as to who was doing the baiting. I have always respected your work on this project, but baiting a sanctioned editor into potentially breaching the terms of their ArbCom restrictions is beyond the pail, and it's what I see in that thread. I gather there is history between you and TRM that would provide context to this rather uncharacteristic behavior from you, but that only reinforces my concern as to why you got into an argument with TRM on ] in the first place. Might I suggest if you have trouble holding your cool in discussions with TRM that you simply avoid him? Others can respond to his posts on ]. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">] ]</strong> 12:45, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :: Glad about that! - ], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| : The problem is that TRM's behavior at ] is such that no one is going to be left to respond to his posts. I, for one, felt like I was being treated like a servant and being told that I had to jump to do whatever he thought necessary. While I'm very willing to help out, and I certainly don't expect to be fawned over when I do something, I don't expect to feel like I'm being ordered to do things. So, I just don't help out there nearly as much as I thought I would when I ran for adminship. ] - ] 13:11, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :: My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. --] (]) 09:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| *I suppose getting multiple versions of this kind of public lecture is my penance for momentarily losing my cool. So please, by all means keep them coming, they are all really improving the situation and helping me to become a much better person. --] (]) 15:14, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :<small>], eh... ;) — ]] 15:25, 6 March 2017 (UTC)</small> | |||
| :As I said above, I do respect you. You are a valued editor and member of the community. If this is chastisement, please consider it as well-intentioned. ] (]) 15:30, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| Hi, you said " Last comment in this thread was 6 days ago; not sure why the bot hasn't archived it." but AN is on a seven-day archive schedule, as said in the banner at the top. Best wishes for the new year! ] (]) 14:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *"Fuck you" isn't a personal attack, and people who say it is (not so much on this page, where the standard seems to be a little higher, but on multiple other pages) might benefit from reading ]. Is it a derogatory comment to or about a ''person''? Is there anything ''personal'' about it at all? "Fuck you" is a way to push somebody away, maybe even a way of telling them you don't like them. Though I would argue it's at most a way of saying you're not liking them at that moment. It's rude, and is a "profanity" (in that strange modern usage of "profane" that doesn't have anything to do with religion and that I was very surprised to learn about (from Misplaced Pages) — sex is sacred now? What the fuck?) It's not something Newyorkbrad would say. But a personal attack, absolutely not. ] | ] 17:38, 6 March 2017 (UTC). | |||
| :*@], "Profane" in this sense (" irreverent, blasphemous, impious, ribald, coarse, indecent") is attested as a common usage for well over 400 years ({{tq|Ȝor prettikes ar profane, Puir ladeis to supplant}}, ], 1568 is the earliest confirmed use of this meaning—albeit in Scotland—with ]'s {{tq|So should our prophane Pamphleteers restraine their libidinous writings more}} in 1614 the earliest confirmed use in England itself.) I think we can allow that this meaning has had enough time for anyone who disapproves to raise objections. ‑ ] 18:01, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::*Well, I disapprove, ], perhaps because I'm from a country where cursing ''is'' profane, in the sense of based on religion. I know usage is king, but IMO you guys might at least take a shot at saying "libidinous" instead. You might like it. ] | ] 18:12, 6 March 2017 (UTC). | |||
| :Well that certainly explains it! For some reason (perhaps it was the case long, long ago) I thought ANI was on a 48 hour schedule, and AN on a 72 hr schedule. Hope your 2025 goes well too. ] (]) 14:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Don't sweat it Floq, anyone who's spent any serious amount of time editing here will have bad days, and while I don't ''think'' I have told anyone directly to fuck off, I have come very close, up to and including of hitting "Show preview" showing me replying to a comment with "Fuck off" + signature and hovering the mouse over the "Save changes" button while wondering of the consequences of clicking it. I'm glad {{u|Beeblebrox}} wrote ], the most important part of which (IMHO) is "don't do this, it's not worth the hassle". <small>(PS: , though that's not ''directly'' telling a ''specific person'' to fuck off, and I did apologise)</small> ] ] ] 17:44, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| *You didn't ''"momentarily"'' lose your cool, you carried out obviously premeditated actions to bait an ArbCom sanctioned editor into breaching their restrictions. That is completely unacceptable behavior for anyone on this site, let alone an administrator. Consider yourself '''admonished in lieu of a block''' by a consensus of uninvolved administrators. <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">— ] // ] // ] // </small> 18:32, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
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Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Happy New Year, Gerda! I actually had a chance to click on one of your watch/listen links! Very cool. --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:30, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Glad about that! - Liebster Immanuel, Herzog der Frommen, BWV 123, my story today 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. Dada Masilo will be my story tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
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Hi, you said " Last comment in this thread was 6 days ago; not sure why the bot hasn't archived it." but AN is on a seven-day archive schedule, as said in the banner at the top. Best wishes for the new year! Fram (talk) 14:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Well that certainly explains it! For some reason (perhaps it was the case long, long ago) I thought ANI was on a 48 hour schedule, and AN on a 72 hr schedule. Hope your 2025 goes well too. Floquenbeam (talk) 14:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)