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== "Attorney" ==
== Editing interview with Putin ==

Having a law degrees doesn't make you an attorney. ] (]) 03:48, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
:She practiced law before she became a journalist. ] (]) 13:41, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

== Article gives too much weight to unproven 2018 allegations of racism ==

I really tend to speak up when I see racism. But I don't see an ounce of it in Kelly in her alleged 2019 "controversial statements".

1) She talked about how things were when she was "a kid", then 2) she expressed an opinion about a person wearing darker makeup ''out of admiration for someone else.
''
This deserves a different treatment in the Misplaced Pages article, because her critics never had any basis for their claims.

Proof of this-- is the fact that the article doesn't quote or cite (give weight to) any of these ''specific'' claims from ''specific'' sources. Likely because they carry little to no weight, by Misplaced Pages standards.

In this situation, comments that are supportive of her claim that she had no racist intent ''do'' therefore have weight and should be included.

] (]) 22:37, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

:How does one determine her "intent"? We can't. We cover things as they are covered by ]. Her blackface comment led her to being fired by NBC, which is clearly a significant life event for the subject. I think you are right though that this paragraph is missing information about the backlash that led to her firing since it's a bit incomplete without that. &ndash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;(]) 22:45, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

::"How does one determine her "intent"? We can't"

::I think you are making a good point. ] (]) 22:50, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

:::I"ll do some research on backlash to her firing. Thanks.

:::] (]) 23:32, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
:::Yes we have to just summarize what ] say about the topic if it has ]. If we interpret things in our own way that isnt supported in the media, its considered ]. Hope some of these policies can help clear any confusion up! ] (]) 22:23, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

== Father in "Early Life" section ==

Ms. Kelly's father, Edward Francis Kelly, earned a doctoral-level degree in education, and he was respected enough at SUNY Albany before his early death to have a conference program named in his honor. Ms. Kelly publicly makes an issue of doctorates in education, which renders the (admittedly ironic) information relevant, interesting, and important to further biographical documentation. Please let's leave it in, this time around. Thanks. ] (]) 13:44, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

== "False claim" ==

"false calim that Algerian boxer ] is a trans woman when she was actually born female"

Just externally observable gender attributes at the birth time do not constitute body to be wholesome female. This person is exactly the case of the wrong attributing, has male attributes and body forming instead of pure female. ] (]) 18:19, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:Imane Khelif is a biological female and saying anything else is false. &ndash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;(]) 19:25, 27 September 2024 (UTC)


== "to express ... material" ==
Interview with Putin has been edited and some answers has been removed. This is a fake news interview. Watch original {{unsigned|82.208.100.228}} 20:31, 6 June 2017 (UTC)


:Three editors have now reverted anon IP 82.208.100.228's ] edit. I have given hi the required 3RR warning and invited him to discuss his issue on this talk page.--] (]) 21:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC) A quibble about the word "material": express opinions, express sentiments, express reasoning. 'Expressing material' sounds odd to me. ] (]) 15:05, 4 October 2024 (UTC)


::Actually, it looks like it's five. Good that you are finally beginning a discussion here. --<span style="#111111">‖ ] <sup>]</sup> - <small>]</span> ‖ 21:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC) :Agreed, it's awkward. I just replaced it with "views". <span class="nowrap">–]</span> (] • ]) 16:23, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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"Attorney"

Having a law degrees doesn't make you an attorney. 51.198.6.25 (talk) 03:48, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

She practiced law before she became a journalist. JTRH (talk) 13:41, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Article gives too much weight to unproven 2018 allegations of racism

I really tend to speak up when I see racism. But I don't see an ounce of it in Kelly in her alleged 2019 "controversial statements".

1) She talked about how things were when she was "a kid", then 2) she expressed an opinion about a person wearing darker makeup out of admiration for someone else. This deserves a different treatment in the Misplaced Pages article, because her critics never had any basis for their claims.

Proof of this-- is the fact that the article doesn't quote or cite (give weight to) any of these specific claims from specific sources. Likely because they carry little to no weight, by Misplaced Pages standards.

In this situation, comments that are supportive of her claim that she had no racist intent do therefore have weight and should be included.

Chesapeake77 (talk) 22:37, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

How does one determine her "intent"? We can't. We cover things as they are covered by reliable sources. Her blackface comment led her to being fired by NBC, which is clearly a significant life event for the subject. I think you are right though that this paragraph is missing information about the backlash that led to her firing since it's a bit incomplete without that. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:45, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
"How does one determine her "intent"? We can't"
I think you are making a good point. Chesapeake77 (talk) 22:50, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
I"ll do some research on backlash to her firing. Thanks.
Chesapeake77 (talk) 23:32, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Yes we have to just summarize what WP:RS say about the topic if it has WP:SIGCOV. If we interpret things in our own way that isnt supported in the media, its considered WP:OR. Hope some of these policies can help clear any confusion up! Eruditess (talk) 22:23, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Father in "Early Life" section

Ms. Kelly's father, Edward Francis Kelly, earned a doctoral-level degree in education, and he was respected enough at SUNY Albany before his early death to have a conference program named in his honor. Ms. Kelly publicly makes an issue of doctorates in education, which renders the (admittedly ironic) information relevant, interesting, and important to further biographical documentation. Please let's leave it in, this time around. Thanks. Johannes der Taucher (talk) 13:44, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

"False claim"

"false calim that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is a trans woman when she was actually born female"

Just externally observable gender attributes at the birth time do not constitute body to be wholesome female. This person is exactly the case of the wrong attributing, has male attributes and body forming instead of pure female. 89.116.235.12 (talk) 18:19, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Imane Khelif is a biological female and saying anything else is false. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:25, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

"to express ... material"

A quibble about the word "material": express opinions, express sentiments, express reasoning. 'Expressing material' sounds odd to me. Walter Dufresne (talk) 15:05, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Agreed, it's awkward. I just replaced it with "views". –CWenger (^ • @) 16:23, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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