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== Noel Rose (a page you deleted in 2006) == | |||
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Hi Tom, I work in the field of autoimmune disease and went looking for a page on Noel Rose, but noticed a 2006 version had been deleted by you. I expect it was a guideline problem (e.g., a verbatim copy of existing content), but let me know if there was some other reason. I am going to start creating the new page, but if you have issues please let me know. Thank you. | |||
Dear Mr. Harrison, I see you have recently intervened at the user page of 'Uberlol' on the grounds of 'personal attacks'. I can tell you I'm the depicted person in question, if you need proof of identity I can provide it in the form of scanned documentation. I just need a secure way to let you see it. I'm not putting it online anywhere. | |||
] (]) 13:58, 10 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
This same vandal has published the same libelous spew under the Wiki account name of 'Louis Shum' but the account was removed by another admin . Now the same vandal is back under the different name 'Uberlol'. | |||
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While its not a article per se, doesn't every Wiki user page have to abide by standards on the biographical depiction of living persons? | |||
Hi Tom! Next on my list to bring to Featured Article level is the Collapse of the World Trade Center article. I have commenced doing some adjustments and some may become major as it proceeds. I feel it lacks the engineering discussion needed to provide a full understanding of how and why the buildings collapsed and for that I need persons better versed than I to at least steer it along the correct path...so anything you have to suggest there or here is welcome.--] (]) 14:08, 20 July 2018 (UTC) | |||
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:Thanks, sounds good. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:24, 20 July 2018 (UTC) | |||
Why have you removed the external link to streetball.co.uk?<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small> | |||
::I think some organizational issues persist and was thinking a brief summary of the attacks, followed by a detailed description of the collapses (the article lacks many finer details) then on to the mechanics of what happened. I am not sure a lengthy discussion about lost artwork, etc, belongs as I think this needs to mainly discuss the engineering aspects. We may have to address conspiracy theories was well near the end if for no other reason than to put them in their bed.--] (]) 21:27, 20 July 2018 (UTC) | |||
:::Agreed; some pruning is due. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:45, 21 July 2018 (UTC) | |||
::::Sorry been absent a bit still thinking about what the article should emphasize..will be working on it more next week.--] (]) 17:21, 3 August 2018 (UTC) | |||
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Well, it's the number one search result in google for "Streetball" and is far more popular than the other sites currently mentioned in the article. So surely that merits its inclusion? By the way, I have no direct involvement with the website itself, I just visit it occasionally.] 15:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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I did add nonsense a few days ago. I added a line about Joseph Smith in the opening description, out of sheer curiosity to see if it actually worked. However, my edit of removing ] from the article made very good sense. Joseph Smith cannot be considered a Christian martyr. Mormonism IS considered heresy by every mainstream Christian denomination and this fact is well-established. Additionally, Smith is hard to consider a true "martyr", as he died in a shootout with the federal government. Compare this to the scores of true Christian martyrs who died for their unwavering support of biblical doctrine and their commitment to Jesus Christ, as He is described in the Christian Bible. I'm sorry, Smith doesn't compare. This edit stands.<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small> | |||
As it's such a long time since the block and a Checkuser has said there's been no evidence of recent block evasion, would you be happy with an unblock at ] now? ] (]) 15:25, 3 January 2019 (UTC) | |||
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I do not want to engage in an edit war about inclusion of these polls, yet Striver insists on placing them in the article rather than build consensus first. Next steps? --] (]) 20:47, 2 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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I would like to speak to you about your list of questionable links, what makes the links from chabad.org questionable? --] | ] 19:41, 4 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Just that there are so many of them - four hundred is too many. Some are justified, but I think we are being taken advantage of to promote the organization. ] <sup>]</sup> 21:36, 4 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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: Thanks for your message. Just to let you know that I'm impartial in this story. There is no 'right' side in that argument - both sides are ridiculous actually, and neither ''can'' be right because both have no references to refer to - both are making fictitious claims. This is not something I can correct, if not to eliminate the chart completely: one cannot compare the inexistent. ] 16:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
Hi you recently protected ] for edit warring. Looks like it is starting again except this time they are calling it vandalism. Should I take it to ] since this is a long term issue with them removing the same material against consensus for months? ] (]) 13:58, 11 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
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:Yes, unfortunately that's the next step. ] <sup>]</sup> 11:49, 12 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
:I've protected the page again. Please give your views on the talk page if you would. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:13, 12 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
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I unprotected Steven Jones article...I thiought a week was long enough, but they seem to be editing ferverishly over there again.--] 15:15, 5 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
What is missing or should be culled from ]. I feel we have too many sections and some areas could be combined. I have a period of free time and may try and push this to peer review after I reread the NIST report. If you're inclined, feel free to post any suggestions to the article talkpage so we can get a dialogue started.--] (]) 19:36, 20 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
:Well, maybe it will settle down. The only reason he has a page at all is his 9/11 conspiracy theory; without that he would be a non-notable academic. If that can't be mentioned neutrally, it can't be mentioned at all, and the page needs to go. At the same time, the page is a bio of Jones, not a pov fork to allow an exclusively favorable presentation of his theory under cover of WP:BLP. It looks reasonably balanced and sourced right now. If it stabilizes that way, we won't have to stub the page and start over. ] <sup>]</sup> 15:32, 5 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Great, I'll start reading. ] <sup>]</sup> 01:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
::I really don't understand why it's necessary to reduce the WTC section. As you say yourself, it's why he is notable.--] 16:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:It all has to balance. If his theory is to be presented at length, criticism of it has to be presented at length. Then the whole business dominates the article. It stops being a biography and becomes yet another pov fork of ]. So it's not necessary to keep it short in theory, but may be in practice, in order to get a stable page that is legitimately a biography. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Hello Tom, Can I ask you to look at the recent "edits" on the ], which you reverted earlier. A noted conspiracy buff then reverted back to his preferred version, which I reverted back. This has been reverted, yet again, by the same person. My suggestion was to wait until ]'s proposed rewrite, but this has been ignored. Regards, David, ] (]) 18:10, 3 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
Hi, I wanted to let you know that I feel your block of Jeff was extremely ill-advised. Civilized discussion is never disruption and without a doubt not block-worthy. If you feel the discussion was "clogging up" ANI or wasn't headed anywhere or was unproductive, fine, advise the participants to move it somewhere else, a user talk page perhaps. But blocking someone because they're arguing a minority viewpoint is in no way constructive and will never solve any problem. --]<sup>(]/])</Sup> 21:07, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:David, I'd say wait and see how it develops. Thanks, ] <sup>]</sup> 12:24, 4 August 2019 (UTC) | |||
:He was being disruptive. He was responding to every single comment and numerous admins made it clear he was being disruptive.--] 21:13, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Hi, can you restore ] for me please? I had it deleted but he has come back to the game and is now notable. Thanks,--]] 17:00, 3 August 2019 (UTC) | |||
I see that you warned ] about the three revert rule. He has continued to censor out sourced material and has reverted the article around 6-8 times today. ] 21:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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The infoboxes on the 9/11 article are taking over the page...is there a way to reduce the size of the infobox on deaths, etc. or at least give it better spacing so the article text doesn't but up against the box..see this edit window......I only come to you as I know you're better with this sort of thing than I am...I've been looking for the guidelines on these types of templates, but can't seem to find them due to other disractions as of late.--] 22:52, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I see what you mean. I'll see if I can come up with something. You might also ask Phaedril; She might be able to improve the whole layout. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:43, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::She is apparently on a long break, maybe permanently. I have already made some adjustments I think it looks fine now. I am also making sure all the cited references work, and updating them all to reflect when they were accessed and using cite templates. I hope to get half of the cited references done and will let you know where I stop if you wish to pick up from there...it would be nice to ghet the article as straight as possible in the next day or two. I'm shooting you an email as well.--] 07:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::I got as far as the section on Motive. Mainly, I'm just making sure the cite templates are used, checking the links to make sure they work, ensuring the retrived date is in the citation, so we know when it was last checked, and getting rid of those embedded links.--] 09:36, 7 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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:Also, I could have sworn that Striver had 2 RFCs. One by Zora a long time ago (]) and another one but I can't find it. Am I mistaken? I think I might be.--] 22:08, 7 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Would you mind kindly unprotecting the ] redirect so that I can fix the double redirect error and also nominate for ]? Protection is no longer required, as I believe it was protected ~13 years ago or so. | |||
I just signed up. | |||
Don't know what I'm doing. | |||
The 9-11 Commission article ( http://en.wikipedia.org/9/11_Commission_Report#Criticism ) has a quote from Paul Craig Roberts that says "citation needed." I believe the article is here: | |||
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02062006.html | |||
If you would like to tell me why this is wrong, I'm teachable. | |||
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And gratitude from my part for referencing that BBC link in ] 09:49, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Hi Tom. I'd appreciate your input ] Thanks. ] <sup>(]|])</sup> 09:58, 13 August 2020 (UTC) | |||
I was making a contribution on ] and do not understand why you reverted it. As I did not even achieved half of the explanation, I am shure you could not understand the meaning of what I wrote. It is the synthesis of a hard job of 3 year, that Idecided to present publically. | |||
My contribution to the subject is a software algorithmic approch to the unexplored area of barter. | |||
You should ask to an economic expert before considering my contribution as vandalism. I did not unedit nor remove anything, I just brought new ideas that are not yet verified by evrybody. Is it what you call vandalism? | |||
If you limit your encyclopedia to the consensus, I really think it is useless. I simply ask for an honest verification of what I write. | |||
The page ] is considered as of very low quality, and I really agree with this. The only contributors are private barter corporates, but no economists, or good experts on the subject. Is ] the favorite field of battle for vandalism fighters? | |||
I really appreciate the work made on this encyclopedia, and that is the reason why I contribute to It, but it is the second time I am accused of vandalism without any explanation. I expect you will change your mind, give me some advices, or at least explain your act.<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small> | |||
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:Looking more closely, I see that your edit was not vandalism. I'm sorry for mischaracterising it. It does, however, appear to be your own ], which Misplaced Pages does not publish. In fact, we do pretty much follow concensus. New ideas that are not yet verified really have no place here. I am in no position to peer-review your work. I suggest you publish elsewhere first. ] <sup>]</sup> 21:51, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
Hi! I was directed to your talk page by the ] on ]. I've started a ] whether we can keep it running, or mark it as inactive.– ] (] 06:17, 28 October 2020 (UTC) | |||
If you want to have a better comprehension of the ideological battle of money in the economic field, please have a look to my user page. The consensus is not the truth. Galileo paid a lot for it. It explains very clearly why contributions on money are excellent, and the low quality of barter article. | |||
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Please consider making your block an indef, given their userpage and edits, I see no good coming from this account. ] (]) 13:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC) | |||
No academic publications are interested on the subject, so I put my contribution on the discussion page, explaining the real stakes of the debate. Very few experts are really working on the subject, and the article will remain a no man's land as long as it will be considered as a field of hostility. | |||
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::For months the Jones article has either explicitly said that Jones' work has not been peer-reviewed, or, as is probably more appropriate, said nothing on the subject, but pointed out that he had not published in a reputable journal. Ironically, today, the day after he has been suspended by BYU, which in explanation said, " BYU has a policy of academic freedom, '''but''' what's expected is that professors submit their work to academic peer reviews so it can be challenged and debated by experts", there is now a line in the article that says his work ''has'' been P.R. So, now we have BYU stripping Jones of his teaching duties, in part because they say he has not submitted his work to P.R., but our article now says his work was P.R. As I am unable to edit the article, and it looks like you and Mongo were involved in the edit today, I guess I am just wondering what your thoughts are on this subject. Thanks ] 02:49, 9 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
I take the liberty to contact you, I am a doctoral student in Political Science at the University of Paris 1 and my work focuses on the history of conspiracy theories, on which I have already published a few scientific articles and I am now preparing a book. I have been interviewing conspiracists and truthers, their critics and opponents for several years, working particularly on the French association ReOpen911 and the question of 9/11, as a now "historical" case of conspiracy...And obviously[REDACTED] has been a rather major theater of discussions/criticisms on the subject. | |||
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I have found you to be a very neutral admin and so I am asking to review a case concerning an editor you have had experience with in the past . | |||
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i changed the word "anti-semitism" to "racism" because the daily article he wrote never mentions anti-semitism but is instead concerning accusations of general racism. his letter that is later quoted is in reference to the nation of islam and farrakhan, as well as other leaders in the nation of islam. the way it was orginally posted made it appear as if ellison's letter was directly addressing anti-semitic comments by farrakhan which he had earlier defend in the daily, which is a misrepresentation.<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small> | |||
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that makes sense. quoting the letter of ellison's to the star tribune might be more accurate. would it be ok to cite the letter directly instead, since it seems like the washington post's quote inferred farrakhan only erroneously? | |||
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here is the letter's link. www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/keithellisonletter%20JCRC.pdf | |||
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ok, the letter, an authentic copy, was only posted on the blog, which i agree is not a reliable source. is it ok since the quote from the letter is introduced as such in the wiki text? | |||
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The old version is a completely biased version of a politian who is up for office today. if this biased version is locked in, the next 5 hours people will be getting online to read the wiki version created by his oppostition. then if he wins and the headlines go national, everyone looking him up will be introduced to the biased parties point of views. the other version did not delete their points but instead brought other points, all of which were supported with legit sources. so whats your angle on this? | |||
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Tom, the Washington Post article is citing the original[REDACTED] on keith which contained the misinformation. it seems like the journalist took that information directly of this wiki page when writing the article instead of reading the Daily article being reference on the wiki page. the actual article that is being referred to, both by this wiki page and the washington post, says nothing about anti-semitism. if i post some misinformation on wiki, then a journalist uses it, does that suddenly make it accurate? please read the original article by Keith Ellison in the daily, which is cited. | |||
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Tom, the wiki page is attempting to sum up an opinion piece of Ellison's which can be found here: http://www.mndaily.com/archive/download.php?archives/1989/11271989.tif | |||
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nowhere in that opinion piece does he mention jews or anti-semitism. therefore the "reliable sources" are not talking about the same article which is being discussed on the wiki page. thats why, even though they are reliable sources, they are not appropriate in the context of what is being talked about on the wiki page. please read the 7th page of the pdf file containing the opinion piece being discussed on the wiki page. after reading it i hope you will be convinced that racism is the appropriate word instead of anti-semitism and that the two reliable sources are talking about some other article or they are in error. | |||
I contributed a lot to the mu online article in Spanish and LuchoCR just for having contributed without vandalism blocked me forever from Misplaced Pages, you can review the changes I made on the page and I asked them in a good way to remove the block since I had not done anything and instead they gave me a 13-day block and then for asking librarians for help in Spanish they undid my changes asking for help on their discussion pages and they blocked me forever, the librarian Taichi is complicit I asked for help with this user https://es.m.wikipedia.org/Usuario_discusión:MajinBaki who is 3 years old and they blocked my IP forever without having done anythinghttps://es.m.wikipedia.org/search/?action=edit&redlink=1&title=User_discussion:186.11.123.149 Taichi deleted my discussion page where I put the unlock template explaining everything and rightly put that it was unnecessary, just to delete it, vandalizing my page discussion page Here is an example of the help I asked a librarian in Spanish on the subject and the ocelot librarian as a mafioso reverted the changes https://es.m.wikipedia.org/Especial:MobileDiff/152986729 and asked my ip ban without doing anything, I just ask for help to do justice, the user Ocelot asked for my IP ban and the mafia user LuchoCR thanked him for reverting my help changes on librarian pages and said yes to me ip ban requested by ocelot https://es.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Tablón_de_anuncios_de_los_bibliotecarios/Portal/Archivo/Nombres_inapropiados_y_vandalismo_persistente/Actual?markasread=52216326&markasreadwiki=eswiki#c-Ocelot-2023081016300 0-Block_Breach_10 there is a mob on[REDACTED] in Spanish that is why I ask you for help, please translate everything that appears in the links that I send you so that you understand MajinBaki(talk) 20:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC) ] (]) 23:23, 10 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
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== Reversion at ] == | |||
Hi, why did you revert this edit ? Seemed like quite a good edit to me, actually. Was that a mistake? ] ] 14:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Hey Tom, I noticed you merged ] into ]. I think that's actually a bad idea, since it actually exists and stuff. I'd rather suggest merging it into the ] (not including the transcript). and and I would put the ] article up for deletion. --] 16:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:That sounds fine to me. Maybe the "transcript" can go in ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 17:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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The best reply to the above comment gets a nice, wholesome cookie. The page is ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:50, 13 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
*'''First entry''' -- fitting that an all boys school would be named Institut Le Rosey, also known by its full name Institut Le Rosey Palms. ] 02:16, 14 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
*And its companion, Le Rosey Rectory. Looks like they are known for turning out Communists, given all the "red" links in their list of "notable" grads. ] 02:27, 14 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Oklahoma == | |||
I think no-one can claim to posess the truth about Oklahoma. Therefore[REDACTED] should present the facts, all facts, unfiltered, and leave it to other gremia to decide what really happened. Misplaced Pages is not a research unit or High Court. | |||
Please see ] — ] <small>]</small> 14:45, 14 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
(citing) | |||
:I oppose the inclusion, for reasons discussed at length above. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:56, 14 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
I think it is not reasonable to oppose inclusion, instead of trying to find a neutral wording together. There has to be some way to describe facts in a wiki article such that it meets wiki standards? Why else do we bother writing wikipedia? Please reconsider. — ] <small>]</small> 15:26, 14 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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*{{cite news|url=http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/ |author=Glaser, Mark |title=Reliving 9/11 Without Glitz of Big Media |publisher=PBS |date=], ]}} | |||
:"] — Misplaced Pages entry: Though I’ve had plenty of reasons to shun Misplaced Pages and its attempts at a neutral point of view, I’ll give it credit for this entry, which covers a vast array of details about the attacks. There are simple timelines, photos, and the entry even includes some of the ] in a relatively balanced way." | |||
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::That's nice to hear. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:22, 14 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== rv ] == | |||
I think my addition | |||
:in particular Building 7, must have been | |||
is useful, since WTC7 is least debated among those conspiracists. It is more accurate, and is not an undue elaboration of any conspiracy theory. It is simply more accurate. | |||
I will alter my addition. Please explain yourself if you disagree. — ] <small>]</small> 22:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:This has been extensively discussed on the talk page. You might want to read through the archives there. If I have any thoughts beyond what I have already said in the archives, I'll post there. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:49, 14 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Citation tag == | |||
Hi i removed the citation tag you just left. Here's what i said on the : | |||
I removed the tag from the first sentence because obviously no citation is needed, since this page is explaining precisely what the Controlled-Demolition Theory is. If that doesn't make sense, please state your reason(s) here. Thanks! Mujinga 00:16, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
Shall we continue the discussion on the talk page if there is a need to? Cheers! ] 00:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Gorgon's Head Lodge == | |||
Mr. Harrison, | |||
The Gorgon's Head Lodge is a secret society dating back to the early 1900s at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. I am currently a member and can provide you evidence that we have existed for over 100 years. We are rival societies with the Order of the Gimghoul and should be and are cited on their Misplaced Pages website. If you have any questions or would like any evidence, please feel free to ask. Thank you for your time.<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small> | |||
:Thanks, but Misplaced Pages does not publish ], which your personal knowledge would be. I noticed that the page was deleted in 14 December 2005, so I deleted it today as a ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:49, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::I was just finishing splitting the old and new nominations and it turned to a red link. Grrrr :) Cheers, ]] 19:57, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== I'm learning == | |||
Thanks for the help with http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Comedy_and_Tragedy_The_Theater_Masks_named_Sock_and_Buskin&oldid=75892700 | |||
this is my first attempt at writting an article. | |||
I hope I was headed in the rigt direction. | |||
You deleted all of the citations to articles in wickoedia. | |||
Aren't they necessary? | |||
Adding in the further reading links was started but the way the internal links was done is still a mystery to me. | |||
Citations for the use of the names "sock and Buskin" can be found in uite a few articles and titles in Wickpedia. | |||
Do I simply add a link to those pages as a citation? | |||
:Certainly you are headed in the right direction. I thought the material was very interesting, and a good contribution. I moved it from its own page to ], which is in need of good material. We generally try not to cite one page to another within Misplaced Pages. When we want to refer the reader to a related page we use an internal link, e.g. "see ]." The ] is a good place to start to learn about the mechanics. A good ] for the names ''Sock'' and ''Buskin'' would be a book on the theatre: ''Professor Marlowe's guide to theatrical lore'', by Kit Marlowe, St. Martin's press, 1982, to use a fake example. I don't know much about the subject myself. Welcome, and thanks for your contribution. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:58, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== A plea for Paul Thompson == | |||
Hi Tom, I notice you voted to delete the article on ]. While I know we disagree on many things, somehow this judgment call surprises me. If you have time, I'd love to hear your reasons. (You can just pop over to my talk page at your convenience.)--] 19:43, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I've added a comment to the AfD. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:01, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks. I'd say writing a book (and doing all that research) is a bit more of an effort than that category of pseudo-newsworthy people you mention. I see your point, but I do think there is plenty of independent coverage and use of his ideas. My suggestion was that he's notable now but will probably be outright famous soon, at which point it won't be an issue. His inclusion in the Dec. 2004 "genius issue" of Esquire is pretty telling; as is Richard Clarke's use of the book as a teaching resource at Harvard. The congressional briefing is also suggestive. Like I say, I doubt this will be an issue in a couple of months. I really think you're being too hard him. Anyway, happy editing.--] 21:04, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Pot calling Kettle == | |||
Hi Tom. I guess you don't understand the etiquette of Misplaced Pages. You should not remove a person's contribution just because you disagree with the source. You need to prove the source is unreliable in order to <em>justify</em> your deletion. How many people's contributions have you deleted because of your misunderstanding of this guideline? --] 23:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Well, here is our ]. Right at the top it says: | |||
1. Articles should contain only material that has been published by reputable sources. | |||
2. Editors adding new material to an article should cite a reputable source, or it may be challenged or removed by any editor. | |||
3. The obligation to provide a reputable source lies with the editors wishing to include the material, not on those seeking to remove it. | |||
:That seems contrary to your suggestion that I need to prove the source is unreliable in order to justify deletion." Or have I misunderstood you? ] <sup>]</sup> 23:32, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::I say the source is reputable. You say the source is not reputable. Who is correct, you or me? Nowhere in your 3 points does it say who is responsible to <em>prove</em> that the source is reputable. Just because you say "it is not reputable" does not make it so. I could say "encyclopedia brittanic: not reputable" which is false and yet according to the 3 points that you listed, I could remove someone's statement simply because I do not trust the Encyclopedia Britannica. This is your flawed logic. --] 00:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::Tom is correct. His logic is not flawed. THe burden is on you to prove the claim is verifiable and part of that is proving the source is reliable. In this case, it is not reliable and fails a number of tests. --] 02:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::So... what are these "tests" that WRH has "failed" according to Mr. Beatty? --] 04:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::: Here's the ] and ] of many. --] 04:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Boston's Hidden Restaurants == | |||
I noticed that Boston's Hidden Restaurants was being considered for deletion because I added links to the page from various pages (Boston, New England, restaurants, New England cuisine), since I noticed that the Boston's Hidden Restaurants page had a note saying there were few incoming links. | |||
I took all these links down from the Boston, New England, restaurants, New England cuisine pages, since it appears that this is what triggered the consideration of deletion. If so, I apologize for this, since I was unaware of what the deletion policies were. | |||
Sincerely, | |||
Marc<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small> | |||
:You din't do anything wrong. I did notice the page when you added a link to it, but the reason I think it should be deleted is that it fails the ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:48, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== unblock? == | |||
Erm, Hi. | |||
I appear to have been blocked and I don't know why. i have added maybe two articles on wikipedia, and didn;t realise I was doing anythign wrong. Could you please enlighten me as to what has happened? | |||
:I replied on your talk page. ] <sup>]</sup> 21:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Personal attacks == | |||
Hello, I had reported ] on the ], and another administrator had noted that he had already been blocked (for a 3RR, and not for personal attacks), and moved him to the "open cases". After returning from the block he has blanked his talk page warnings, and wrote "what a great nerd you are" This in itself is not much of an issue, but the personal attacks have gone now gone way past the point of acceptable. | |||
First of all I'm a ] living in Canada, and this user has made reference to ], a very anti-Baha'i organization in Iran that has persecuted the Baha'is in Iran. He first wrote "Say, do you know about the Hojjatieh Jeff?" , he then wrote: "How's Canada? is it a good country? I should visit sometimes." , and then "There shouldn't be too many Baha'i'communities in Canada, in a few cities perhaps, like Toronto, Ontario, or in Nova Scotia. Must not be hard to find people." and finally "::::I sense fear in your tone. Your action is more uncivilized than any of my tone. Provocative and coward. Hidding behind friends to make a stupid illogical point. I will be visiting Canada Jeff. Trust me it's easy to find people." . This is a direct personal attack, not only in terms of words, which I can easily forget, but much more. You can check my words to him on his talk page (need to check diffs as he's blanked his talk page), all civilized, but he has continued his attacks. What can be done about this. -- ] 15:24, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I have blocked him for a week. If he makes any more threats, I will block longer. Please let me or another admin know if there is any more of this. ] <sup>]</sup> 15:29, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks -- ] 15:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
I have extended your block on the account to indefinite, having been the one to block him for 3RR in the first place and been following his edits since. There are no significantly useful edits from the account, and we should show zero tolerance to people who are only here to disrupt. He'd been trolling all the way through his block period, including evading his block through an IP, and although I didn't see a future as a productive contributor I have to say I didn't expect him to go this far over the line. --]<sup>]</sup> 16:22, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:An indefinite block is fine with me. Thanks, ] <sup>]</sup> 18:42, 19 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Angela Beesley== | |||
Re: revert. Please outline your reasons on the talk page. In particular, there is no original research, no citation of[REDACTED] (only a link to[REDACTED] as a primary source for angela's comments), and all statements are supported by cites, contrary to your edit summary. --] 16:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Alva Noto repair == | |||
This article Should Not be deleted. But I guess it does need repair (I did not create it). I just added-in some new helpful info. But, being new here, I'm not sure how to boost this article's citations or credibility. Can you make recommendations for this article and reasons why you thought it should be deleted? Thanks.<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small> | |||
:It looks better now. Links to independent reviews are helpful. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== You're cheap! == | |||
Ha...--] 11:21, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I prefer "inexpensive." ] <sup>]</sup> 12:45, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Citation request (controlled demolition) == | |||
Hi Tom, you want a reference for "the controlled demolition hypothesis proposes that". Does this mean that you want a source (or set of sources) that proposes this, or someone who confirms the existence of the hypothesis? The best source for the first is, of course, Steven Jones (but the article provides many others as well); the most authoritative statement of the hypothesis, in the latter sense, is probably the NIST report and the recent FAQ. But you already know about those, so I'm a bit confused about what claim you want referenced.--] 13:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I want a reliable source who says there is a controlled-demolition hypothesis, and who says what it consists of. ] <sup>]</sup> 13:41, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Isn't NIST such a source. That failing, Bazant and Verdure 2006?--] 13:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Sure, as long as it supports what the article says. ] <sup>]</sup> 13:50, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Obviously. Do you have any doubts about that?--] 13:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I do have doubts, but I'll remove it for now, and see what citations are provided to support what is said. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Great. I've opened the discussion on the talk pages. It would be great to have at least that first section in plain language that also has your approval.--] 14:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
==]== | |||
Thank you for your objective and precision recent edits to the above. I've made a minor amendment for accuracy — I presume "front matter" is not quite the same, but, if it is, feel free to rv. ] 21:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Navayāna Buddhism on the ] page== | |||
I have cited sources that show that scholars have called Ambedkarite Buddhism navayāna. Dhammafriend refuses to believe that Ambedkarite Buddhism could be branded | |||
:Dr. Ambedkar revived Buddhism in India so you can not brand is Old OR Neo! Its Buddhism. People from Europe /USA are converting to their own found Buddhist practices. All are Buddhist so newly converted people are not branded as neo ! Please also visit www.e-b-u.org. In Indian Context Buddhist from Ladakh, Assam, Maharshtra, Karnataka etc. are a fighting unitedly for Buddhist Revival. Do you know All Indian Buddhist Monk Association ? Especially for Mahabodhi Temple Liberation Movement world Buddhist are united. Buddhist monk from Japan Bhante Surai Sasai is doing best in Central Region of India Nagpur to mobiliese masses Dhammafriend 10:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
the fact is all Buddhism is branded something or the other and scholars have branded Ambedkarite Buddhism as navayāna. Ambedkarite Buddhism is the only Buddhist movement in India. Buddhists from Ladakh, Assam, or Darjeeling are ancestral Buddhist populations that did not get extinguished, hence, the "Indian Buddhist Movement" should only be applicable to Ambedkarite Buddhism, which has been called navayāna | |||
Dhammafriend is stubborn and keeps reverting the article and removing statement "or Navayāna Buddhism (Pāli नवयान navayāna, literally "new vehicle")". May I put this back in, along with my citation. | |||
] 02:20, 23 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Sorry, this is nothing I am familiar with. You might ask for a ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 03:18, 23 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Hello== | |||
I am addressing you as an neutral, dissintrested and uninvolved third part admin: Could you please revert , tell the person to not delete "citition needed" and tell him to stop adding that the letter is disputed unless he presents any sources that do so? The fact tags are not there to questioning the statments, but the simple fact that sources are needed. Thanks and peace. --] 11:32, 23 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Oh, i see that he did add sources, but they are in Arabic... could you then tell him to stop removing fact tags? --] 11:33, 23 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
More . I would understand if it were primary sources, but i can not see how it is helpfull to add Arabic secondary sources. --] 11:38, 23 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:If ], born in Damascus, is a Syrian scholar, would not ], born in Nishapur then be an Iranian scholar? I think instead people would say al-Hajjaj was a Persian scholar, or maybe an Abbasid scholar, and that Al-Dhahabi was an Umayyad scholar. Anyway, it sounds like there is a reasonable disagreement, so the <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> tag should remain until more ] sources are found. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:08, 23 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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== ] has attacked me again == | |||
:While the complaint is still pending, he just made more ethnic attacks against me. He called me "anti-Buddhist" and characterized my alleged "Caste" by referring to me as a "Brahmin"/"Shudra" (amusingly, I'm not even a Hindu).I am adding diffs to that effect in the PAIN report but I humbly request you to please intervene. His inflammatory comments in the talk page of ] are making it very difficult for us legitimate editors to create a good article. The diffs of his most recent attacks are below: | |||
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3AIndian_Buddhist_Movement&diff=77509724&oldid=77417417 | |||
In particular, the comments from the diff above: | |||
{{cquote|If kelkar Or all anti-Buddhist people who are unaware of the Present ] can come and understand the status.}} | |||
{{cquote|] hate is too much in ] ] ] minds}} | |||
Referring to both me and ] | |||
and | |||
{{cquote|Mr.] you are not the first anti-Buddhit person on this planet.}} | |||
{{cquote|The Language used by u like which planet etc.. shows you are full hate towards ] so debate is a civilised manner}}. | |||
Despite the fact that I have made no attacks against anyone. | |||
] 09:36, 24 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I have pasted a copy of his recent attacks on PAIN and request some intervention here. Thanks very much.] 09:40, 24 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::] has attacked me as ] even though I write only about Buddhist Movement in India. His clain that he is not attacking anyone is also strange. Coz on this same page we can find he has attacked others also. ] 21:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
I see you have deleted the above entry. What did not get deleted was the talk page assosicated with it; does that not go with the article. thanks.--] <small>] ] ]</small> 19:51, 24 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks! ] <sup>]</sup> 19:57, 24 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Limecat == | |||
Hi... I saw that you deleted the article I created recently, titled "Limecat," with the reason that it had been deleted previously. I never saw the previous article, but I did see the "debate" (someone pointed it out on my article's talk page) and I think I had addressed the concerns. Could you at least restore the article so it could be vetted again the way the previous version apparently was? Thanks. ] 21:01, 24 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:No, but you are welcome to take it up on ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 21:03, 24 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
OK, will do, thanks. ] 21:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Merkabah == | |||
Hi Tom, A quick message to say thanks for the great job of combineing Merkabah and Hekalot. I was just checking if it had produced any messages on the talk pages and found it was already job done. That should make life easier for people researching this stuff like me. Regards -- ] <sup>(])</sup> 22:53, 24 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks, it's good of you to say so. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
==] personnel attacks== | |||
i am trying to improve of ] but user ] has said me a ] though i am not a muslim. | |||
"there are entire countries in the muslim world that massacre non-muslims and spread hate against them (Pakistan against Hindus, Saudi Arabia against Christians" i tired to warn him about critising against a relegion. | |||
THIS IS CONVERSATION BETWEEN HIM AND A MEMBER | |||
:The present ref does not say that Tipu founded the Jacobin club, only that he was a member.Hkelkar 02:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
In the article it clearly states as hazrath Tipu Sultan as a founding member and not a member! there were 59 early members of which hazrath Tipu Sultan was one of them. Is a there a difference between a founding member ( might be tipu as it was the very beginning of the club in mysore) and a member,could you please explain. | |||
Mujeerkhan 12:50, 25 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Rubbish. Nowhere in either of the references is the word "founder" even mentioned.Hkelkar 05:55, 25 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
What do mean "rubbish" after the efforts i have made in the improvements of the article. oh "founder" is not given the sources which i have provide but its said in the article of hazrath tipu and we have to check who made the error. I have made so many corrections for the errors in the article and for quite a while you have been telling me whats "wrong" and whats "correct" instead of helping me out. is this the way you treat other wiki members for thier contributions. | |||
Mujeerkhan 17:40, 25 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I am perfectly within my rights to point out gibberish when it is there. Since it is a comment on content, not on contributor, it is neither incivility nor a personal attack. The fact remains that 90% of the article is balderdash, hooey, jive, bakwaas, drek,and other similar such descriptions from any number of languages that anyone can think of. What's more. the edits are colored by the worst case of religious/nationalist fundamentalism I have ever seen on[REDACTED] so far. Hkelkar 08:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
In this instance a member is trying to correct the article but user ] is making fun out of him. he wants the article to be in his own ideas. | |||
could you please do something about the user | |||
]14:49, 25 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::I suggest you ask for help at the ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 13:05, 25 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::Since my comments were on the content, not on the contributor, they do not satisfy ]s criteria for a personal attack. I think that new users should read the policy before wasting admins time.] 01:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Morton Devonshire== | |||
Thanks for the note. I don't do feuds... just wikipedia. However, I will take your advice and disengage, as he sees it as very personal. I'll leave it to you and others to keep a weather eye. ] 21:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
Cheers. I noticed you made a reference to Angela Davis - which rang a bell.... ] 21:25, 25 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
LOL. You mentioned her recently in a talk post as an example, which would be relevant to those of us of a certain age. Not that I'm giving away mine. I just picked up on it, so I thought I'd say I got the reference, as it probably escaped most people. ] 21:37, 25 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:You recommended that I back off from Morton for a while, and I have shown good faith by doing so. Unfortunately, it has not been reciprocated. Morton made this about me. I have asked him to , which I believe merit an apology also. He has simply ignored this, and archived the talk. | |||
:He has also archived from another admin, ], and stated that he has acted on suggestions to remove offensive content from his user page. However, as Runcorn has , the same content remains unchanged on . I also note on ], firstly a copyvio of the Che Guevara image, where permission is only given to "propagate his memory and the cause of social justice throughout the world". The usage does not do this. Secondly there is an attack on "Alex", which in the context of Morton's stated views can only be interpreted as Alex Jones. | |||
:I might mention that Runcorn is now the third admin to ask Morton to remove this content. User pages are, as you know, for building up the encyclopedia, not for content which is guaranteed to be provocative and cause disruption. I would be grateful for your attention to this. Thanks. | |||
:] 14:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Where is this Che Guevara image? I thought he removed it. ] <sup>]</sup> 14:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::Che Guevara can be found here. ] 17:12, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::I see. A picture of Che Guevara remains in an archive of his talk page, after he removed another at your request from his user page. And you say this is a copyvio because it is contrary to Korda's terms for use of the image? Reading those terms, I think its use there is acceptable. Unless I misunderstand the basis for your reasoning, either it can be used as Morton used it, or it cannot be used in any neutral biography of Che Guevara. Since it can (apparently) be used in our page on Che, where we record considerable criticism of him, I think you misunderstand Korda's terms. I do not see any basis for saying Morton cannot use it. ] <sup>]</sup> 17:34, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::I didn't make the request that Morton should remove the Che Guevara picture. That was made by Guinnog. No matter. It was clearly Korda's intent that it should be used to support Guevara, so I think the use in an article with hostile comments would not pass muster, though that of course would not preclude fair use. I'm not interested in pursuing the matter. | |||
:::Why have you only responded to that, and not the other points mentioned? Thanks. ] 19:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Beyond that I'm not sure what you are asking me to do (and I even misunderstood what you wanted about the picture). If you are asking me to mediate, you should find a better mediator. I'm not very good at it, and although I do not share his rather generous opinion of el Che, I think Morton is more right than wrong. | |||
::Beyond that, what? I think Alex Jones' followers (and others) use Misplaced Pages to promote and legitimize conspiracy theories. Conspiracism is a fallacy. Identifying conspiracy theories and theorists as such is a good thing, and improves our encyclopedia. | |||
::You want me to chide Morton for not assuming good faith on your part, while you manifestly assume bad faith on his? You want him to not archive his talk page until you say it's okay? Unless I'm mistaken, the bot has already archived the thread from the noticeboard. He has seen what people have said to him, he has made some compromises, he has moved away from at least one page you edit. And now you say he is ignoring your request for an apology. You accused me without basis of defamation, wikilawyering, and ]; I'm (mostly) ignoring that. Many things are better ignored. For everything else, there is ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:52, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::Needless to say I don't agree with what you have written, but I'm not interested in point scoring (I am not saying that you are either) and I do agree that many things are better ignored, so I shall apply that philosophy here to save even more wasted time. ] 20:17, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::I am not unaware of your conversation here. As such, I have taken yet more steps to calm things down. I would appreciate it if that would be the end of things, and that you would respect me request to disengage. Thank you. ] 20:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::Thank you Morton. I regard this as a good-will gesture which I respect. I have backed off myself from editing ] following your gesture there. I have also spoken against ArbCom hearing the case against you (though there's little chance of that anyway). I will post to Runcorn and say that I think the best thing now is to put this behind us. ] 20:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
==] block== | |||
It wasn't very well expressed, but there's no need to pick up on a technicality. I used ] as a shorthand, I must confess. The basic point is that he was making a defamatory comment, was warned, and made another one. I am sure you know how seriously libel on living persons is regarded, and his response was flippant about the whole business. I discussed it with MONGO and invited him to shorten or remove the block, but he declined and also left a warning. Do you have a problem with this? ] 17:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I do. I am concerned about using BLP this way. I wonder, is Tbeatty subject to the same protections BLP affords Steven Jones, as you understand BLP? ] <sup>]</sup> 17:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Could you kindly say what you mean? ] 17:59, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Mr ]'s language == | |||
Sir, | |||
Could you please check Mr. HKelkar's language.for instance ]Insted of giving references/documentation/proofs he is threatening others. I understand Misplaced Pages is made for all the people on this earth and have equal rights to express their views. If the other person has different view he should come up with valid arguments rather that putting warnings, complaining to administrators. | |||
You have blocked my brother's id, I hope you had valid resons but you are allowing Mr. ]'s nonstop nonsense? May I ask/request, why you are allowing him to continue? | |||
He has unnessarily posted warning/puppet notices on my talks even though I have told him that I live in USA and Dhammafriend lives in Germany. | |||
Thank you.--] 18:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I suggest you look at ] and follow the procedure listed there. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:21, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::] I have asked you to come for open and healthy debate. Why are you branding me as Sockpuppetry? ] is my elder brother is USA. If you are in USA, Europe Or Germany I'll arrange meeting for discussion on Buddhist Movement in India. So don't be a hidden attacker. If other users are writing anything on Hinduism you should not relate me with them. ] 21:06, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::] The Bodhidharma is my elder brother in USA. ] has branded me that I am using another username. If you want contact details we can meet anywhere. These hidden attackers only to spoil articles. ] 21:06, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Hi Tom, please see ]. I've put the flag back. Regards, — ] <small>]</small> 23:04, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Do you get what I'm ]? — ] <small>]</small> 01:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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==Dhammafriend and Truthlover== | |||
Dhammafriend (and Truthlover) has completely reverted ] to how it was prior to his/their ban. He/They did not only remove the navayana concept, which he/they question but also all the citations that cleared up citation neccessity's. I have reverted the page to how it was prior. | |||
] 23:22, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
It is also important to note that "they" reverted the 'official-style' referencing back to their informal previous citations, they also removed claims of dubious assertions and etc. | |||
the proof is ], ], ] | |||
] 23:47, 27 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I really do not know enough about the subject to be able to help. You might look at ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 01:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== AOL block == | |||
Hey Tom your block of Jon W, while justified, has left a ton of AOL subscribers locked out. I can't even create my own user page. | |||
Please consider lifting the block before too long. | |||
Thanks!--] 06:52, 28 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Policy== | |||
Thanks for your note. I have left a comment. ] 16:42, 28 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Follow-up edit to yours. ] 17:57, 28 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Need help in understanding how to report hypocritic people== | |||
Sir, I was looking into policies and procedures. I could not find how to report such people. I have been discussing About Buddhism on ] pages, Insted of having healthy conversations, other people are just engaging in to threats and "block" user game. insted of countering my arguments. | |||
I follow this methodology for any arguments to reach its conclusion. | |||
1. I ask about the percetion of each user about the subject. | |||
2. If there is a difference in opinion I prefer inference. Read all the reliable sources I have and other user has provided and try to think logically to find answer. | |||
3. If there is no clear logical answer I demand valid testimony. an Authorative document which clearly describes the topic in length. | |||
I expect others to follow the same but insted they continue to have vague arguments which does not lead anywhere and continue with their personal propaganda. If I change the document they complain that I am vandalising the article. I get warnings. How do I report such hyporitic and autocratic people? | |||
How do I request third party intervention? | |||
Thank you --] 20:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I suggest you try the ] for personal attacks, and the ] system for everything else. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Your comment == | |||
I am not "habitually uncivil". I do however take great exception, that when I take pains to improve articles and compromise with other editors, and then someone else comes along and calls me everything under the sun (even threatening real life retaliation), I get treated as though I am just as bad as him. And I take even more exception when, after this insulting mistake is made, the insulting admin refuses to apologise. And I get absolutely apoplectic at the thought that there is no way of getting this appalling insulting mistake deleted from the record, so that anyone might happen on the circumstances and assume that he had in some way been justified in what he did. | |||
That makes me very angry indeed. And justifiably so. Of course people who have not been involved, coming in and misreading the situation, does not help. ] | ] 15:14, 29 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Have just realised that you were the <!-- idiot-->admin who was the first to block me for a non-existent 3RR when I was trying to compromise with another editor. So you have no excuse for getting it wrong. The French have a proverb: Cet animal est très méchant: Quand on l'attaque, il se défend. ] | ] 16:23, 30 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Since this is the English wiki, translated, "This animal is very mean: When one attacks it, it defends himself."--] 16:28, 30 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
Refer to ] <sup>]</sup> 16:33, 30 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
== The Under Revision tag on the 9/11 article == | |||
Hi Tom. Obviously your prerogative to be bold and remove this. However, at present the article is undergoing such massive revisions that it would be better to rephrase it to be more inclusive to new and casual editors than to remove it comepletely. Do you think we could take this to the article talk page, please? On the basis that we are discussing everything I am about to revert your removal, but only once, and justify that on the talk page. ] 14:50, 30 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Kevin Barrett== | |||
Hi Tom. I was hoping you could take a look at this article. There is a new editor over on the Kevin Barrett page who has started an edit war over the notion that Barrett "was suspected of planning to teach CT." He keeps deleting sourced material ( lying in his edit summary), and screwing up the sources, both in the reference section and in the article. If you look through the edit history you'll see he has tried to insert several different unsourced assertions. He has called me a liar when I have deleted his unsourced contributions. I've tried to reason with him, but he just keeps reverting to "his" latest version, despite never having demonstrated a deficiency in the status quo. He seems intent on theorizing about what Barret was "planning" to do. Anyway, on the talk page, he has said he hopes an admin will look things over. I posted this on Mongo's talkpage as well, but the other editor has again reverted, and again asked for admin assistance. If you have the time...Thanks ] 20:37, 30 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I changed the wording, per talkpage, and added back in the uncited quote you removed. That was my mistake...I thought I had to do something different to cite the source (it is a video of a news appearence). It appears to be alright though. Thanks for looking at the article, and please let me know if I have cited that video incorrectly. Cheers, ] 21:44, 30 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
Tom, please take a look at new edit. I didn't know of you before, so I couldn't make a direct and personal request to you the way Levi P did, but after your recent involvement I came to your user page to let you know that I have made another attempt to edit the Kevin Barrett page and to keep it neutral and well sourced but Levi P has already reverted it without discussion or explanation. I thought Misplaced Pages policy was against reverting good faith edits. Please do something. ] 04:27, 1 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
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::Tom, Pihanki has now knowingly violated WP:3RR. I am not going to revert again, since I believe I am at my limit. Since he has also insulted me, and told bald-faced lies in his edit summary, it seems something should be done. Thanks for looking into this. ] 04:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
Kind Regards, | |||
If it's a violation, and if he did it after being warned, you can report it at the ]. Probably no great harm will come from letting it all sit for a day or two. ] <sup>]</sup> 04:46, 1 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
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:That's a good point, and I'll do so. I did warn him, and that coupled with his other actions has gotten me annoyed. I'm going to go do something that doesn't involve editing with strangers. Thanks, ] 04:53, 1 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Noel Rose (a page you deleted in 2006)
Hi Tom, I work in the field of autoimmune disease and went looking for a page on Noel Rose, but noticed a 2006 version had been deleted by you. I expect it was a guideline problem (e.g., a verbatim copy of existing content), but let me know if there was some other reason. I am going to start creating the new page, but if you have issues please let me know. Thank you.
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Invited!
Hi Tom! Next on my list to bring to Featured Article level is the Collapse of the World Trade Center article. I have commenced doing some adjustments and some may become major as it proceeds. I feel it lacks the engineering discussion needed to provide a full understanding of how and why the buildings collapsed and for that I need persons better versed than I to at least steer it along the correct path...so anything you have to suggest there or here is welcome.--MONGO (talk) 14:08, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, sounds good. Tom Harrison 20:24, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- I think some organizational issues persist and was thinking a brief summary of the attacks, followed by a detailed description of the collapses (the article lacks many finer details) then on to the mechanics of what happened. I am not sure a lengthy discussion about lost artwork, etc, belongs as I think this needs to mainly discuss the engineering aspects. We may have to address conspiracy theories was well near the end if for no other reason than to put them in their bed.--MONGO (talk) 21:27, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed; some pruning is due. Tom Harrison 14:45, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry been absent a bit still thinking about what the article should emphasize..will be working on it more next week.--MONGO (talk) 17:21, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- No problem, same here... Tom Harrison 18:18, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry been absent a bit still thinking about what the article should emphasize..will be working on it more next week.--MONGO (talk) 17:21, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed; some pruning is due. Tom Harrison 14:45, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- I think some organizational issues persist and was thinking a brief summary of the attacks, followed by a detailed description of the collapses (the article lacks many finer details) then on to the mechanics of what happened. I am not sure a lengthy discussion about lost artwork, etc, belongs as I think this needs to mainly discuss the engineering aspects. We may have to address conspiracy theories was well near the end if for no other reason than to put them in their bed.--MONGO (talk) 21:27, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
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Hi you recently protected Black Hebrew Israelites for edit warring. Looks like it is starting again except this time they are calling it vandalism. Should I take it to WP:AN/EW since this is a long term issue with them removing the same material against consensus for months? PackMecEng (talk) 13:58, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, unfortunately that's the next step. Tom Harrison 11:49, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
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What is missing or should be culled from Collapse of the World Trade Center. I feel we have too many sections and some areas could be combined. I have a period of free time and may try and push this to peer review after I reread the NIST report. If you're inclined, feel free to post any suggestions to the article talkpage so we can get a dialogue started.--MONGO (talk) 19:36, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- Great, I'll start reading. Tom Harrison 01:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Collapse of the World Trade Center
Hello Tom, Can I ask you to look at the recent "edits" on the Collapse of the World Trade Center, which you reverted earlier. A noted conspiracy buff then reverted back to his preferred version, which I reverted back. This has been reverted, yet again, by the same person. My suggestion was to wait until MONGO's proposed rewrite, but this has been ignored. Regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 18:10, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
- David, I'd say wait and see how it develops. Thanks, Tom Harrison 12:24, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
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Hi, can you restore User:EchetusXe/Nathan Ferguson for me please? I had it deleted but he has come back to the game and is now notable. Thanks,--EchetusXe 17:00, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
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Would you mind kindly unprotecting the 2006 Bilderberg Meeting redirect so that I can fix the double redirect error and also nominate for RfD? Protection is no longer required, as I believe it was protected ~13 years ago or so.
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9/11 Truth Movement
Hi Tom. I'd appreciate your input here. Thanks. Evan 09:58, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
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About a Research on the History of Conspiracy Theories
Dear Tom Harrison,
I take the liberty to contact you, I am a doctoral student in Political Science at the University of Paris 1 and my work focuses on the history of conspiracy theories, on which I have already published a few scientific articles and I am now preparing a book. I have been interviewing conspiracists and truthers, their critics and opponents for several years, working particularly on the French association ReOpen911 and the question of 9/11, as a now "historical" case of conspiracy...And obviously[REDACTED] has been a rather major theater of discussions/criticisms on the subject.
Looking at the related conspiracy pages' statistics, I realized that you have worked for long on these issues on wikipedia, hence my message and a small request: I would really appreciate if you can share bits of this "experience" with me in an interview.
All the best
Pierre France pierre.France zoho.com https://univ-paris1.academia.edu/PierreFrance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.187.1.47 (talk) 09:57, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, no. Best wishes with your research, Tom Harrison 18:36, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Alt-right
Hi Tom; just wanted to see what your particular reasons were for this revert on Alt-right. Did you think I was cutting too much? I've been a major contributor to this article for a few years, adding a lot into it, but it's clearly gone way over the recommended WP:Article Size so I've been trying to prune in back, in the hope that one day we can get it through GAN and FAC. Any particular parts of my pruning that you disagree with? Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:29, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm, must have hit rollback while scrolling through the watchlist. Thanks for letting me know, sorry for the inconvenience. Tom Harrison 12:49, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Not a problem, Tom. Have a good week! Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:50, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
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Dear Tom, would you care to explain your revert? Str1977 19:59, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, must have hit the button by accident. Thanks for letting me know, Tom Harrison 20:05, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- That's allright. Str1977 20:08, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Tom can u help me?
I contributed a lot to the mu online article in Spanish and LuchoCR just for having contributed without vandalism blocked me forever from Misplaced Pages, you can review the changes I made on the page and I asked them in a good way to remove the block since I had not done anything and instead they gave me a 13-day block and then for asking librarians for help in Spanish they undid my changes asking for help on their discussion pages and they blocked me forever, the librarian Taichi is complicit I asked for help with this user https://es.m.wikipedia.org/Usuario_discusión:MajinBaki who is 3 years old and they blocked my IP forever without having done anythinghttps://es.m.wikipedia.org/search/?action=edit&redlink=1&title=User_discussion:186.11.123.149 Taichi deleted my discussion page where I put the unlock template explaining everything and rightly put that it was unnecessary, just to delete it, vandalizing my page discussion page Here is an example of the help I asked a librarian in Spanish on the subject and the ocelot librarian as a mafioso reverted the changes https://es.m.wikipedia.org/Especial:MobileDiff/152986729 and asked my ip ban without doing anything, I just ask for help to do justice, the user Ocelot asked for my IP ban and the mafia user LuchoCR thanked him for reverting my help changes on librarian pages and said yes to me ip ban requested by ocelot https://es.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Tablón_de_anuncios_de_los_bibliotecarios/Portal/Archivo/Nombres_inapropiados_y_vandalismo_persistente/Actual?markasread=52216326&markasreadwiki=eswiki#c-Ocelot-2023081016300 0-Block_Breach_10 there is a mob on[REDACTED] in Spanish that is why I ask you for help, please translate everything that appears in the links that I send you so that you understand MajinBaki(talk) 20:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC) MajinBaki (talk) 23:23, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
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