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== Gruffydd ap Llylweyn family name discrepency ==
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== Aberconwy House review ==

I have recently created a wiki for Aberconwy House and i am waiting for approval and review of the wiki. i am a new user here so i don't have much idea of where to approach

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:{{reply|Iamjoyandlove}} Edward, for a fairly new editor, you've made a great start on this article. I've made a few suggestions on the article's Talkpage, here . All the best. ] (]) 07:22, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

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An editor has requested that the Welsh pronunciation for ''Pont Trefynwy'' be given in the lead. It's a good suggestion, and I could have a try but I may make a mistake. If any editor from this project knows how to do it properly, I'd be very grateful. ] (]) 06:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
:Now done. ] (]) 16:26, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

== Newish user creating hundreds of DWB-sourced stubs ==

Editors at this project may want to review the work of {{user|Helenrp}}, who has been creating hundreds of biographical stub articles sourced to only the Dictionary of Welsh Biography. The main problems with their work include:
#All articles are one-source. More sources need to added. the ones which fail GNG need to be AfD'd.
#Too specific disambiguation terms in title. Many articles need to be renamed to use proper disambiguation terms.
#Many articles which actually meet GNG are likely to have scope for plenty of expansion.
] (]) 16:13, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

:Useful to mention this here; some editors have already intervened in this case (see ]). It will need some work to get it straight, and it will take time. ] ] 21:35, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
::I think this relates to the project going on in Welsh wikipedia, where an effort is being made to "catch up" with the DWB and the rules on stubs and references are different. Will try to address is myself as well. ] (]) 07:36, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
:::Perhaps naive of me, but I never knew the rules would be different in the Welsh WP, and I'm wondering why this would be...] ] 08:59, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
::::Each Wikimedia project (such as ]; ]; ]; ]; ]; etc.) is, generally speaking, free to define its own policies and guidelines, provided that they are compatible with the ] and other ].
::::The Wicipedia Cymraeg equivalents to ] and ] appear to be ] and ] respectively, and both are quite short compared to our pages. However, I can't find an equivalent for ] at Wicipedia Cymraeg - ] has several entries, but many are redlinks (often in English!) and none seem to concern verifiability: I may be wrong here, and I'm sure that {{user|Llywelyn2000}} will know for certain.
::::What we describe as a "stub article" is laid down at ] which is a guideline - not even policy. However, it's quite extensive compared to, say, ] - this page hasn't been updated much, and doesn't have many watchers: I suspect that ] may have gone unnoticed. --] &#x1f339; (]) 10:00, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
::::FURTHER EXPLANATION: The number of regular editors on cy is small. As long as they are writing in Welsh, we try not to discourage them by deleting unreferenced articles. Bear in mind that, because the number of edits is relatively small, vandalism is rare and is quickly stamped on. Spam doesn't tend to happen. The criteria for notability are also different, because there are a number of topics - particularly those related to the Welsh language - that are considered relevant when their English equivalents might not be. For example, it is estimated that Penguin Random House, the largest English-language publisher, publishes 15,000 new titles a year. Gomer, the largest Welsh publisher, brings out about 120 titles a year (and that includes English-language titles); in consequence, Welsh wikipedia considers all Welsh-language books to be worthy of an article. ] (]) 15:55, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
:::::Those redlinks that I mentioned are gone, and there is now ] - both thanks to Llywelyn2000. --] &#x1f339; (]) 18:45, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

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== Regions and sub-regions? ==

Hello WikiProject Wales. Does anybody here recognise the "region/sub-region" names which have been added to ]? There are no citations in the article and Google yields no significant mentions. They have the air of being inventions by the anonymous editor (especially the Pembrokeshire + Isle of Anglesey "region") but I thought I'd better ask around before reverting the article to remove them.--] <small>( ] )</small> 09:18, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
:{{reply|Martinevans123|Ghmyrtle}}, They mean absolutely nothing to me. What on earth is Metro-Newport? Metropolitan area of Newport? And why is Monmouthshire part of it? I'm no expert in this area - and have consequently pinged a couple of others - but I suspect you are right and that they are OR/inventions/wishful thinking by the IPs. ] (]) 12:10, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
::We're all very ] in Newport, you know. But I'm very unsure about that. I'll have a look round. ] (]) 12:35, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
:::If you go back to before the 1974 reorganisation, Newport was in ]. --] &#x1f339; (]) 13:03, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
:::Oh, and the only regions within Wales that I am aware of are the five electoral regions used for the twenty additional ]s (see ] and ]): ]; ]; ]; ]; and ]. --] &#x1f339; (]) 13:20, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
::::The regions/sub-regions don't seem to align with any administrative/political/statistical geographic areas of Wales that I am familiar with. There are various divisions that are used/proposed by politicians and geographers (see ]) or look at books like , but most of these are fairly obscure. Even if the regions added in ] turn out to be real in some way, their use in the page in question is distracting and uninformative... Be bold and remove them. ] (]) 14:23, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
:::::{{reply|Martinevans123|Redrose64}},In reply to Redrose's first point, I absolutely agree but Martin will recall the trouble we got in to when, in recognition of this historic link, and of the fact that the Newman ] is called ''Gwent/Monmouthshire'' , we suggested the ] article should mention this historic connection. I know a fair few Monmouth residents who would react equally badly to being told that they actually lived in Metro-Newport Y7! I'm inclined to follow Rob - if these areas do have an actual existence, it's so remote from people, and its usage is so uncommon, that we are better off without them. ] (]) 17:09, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
::::::Thank you all for your comments. I have removed the supposed region names.--] <small>( ] )</small> 18:01, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Hi all, just to state this anonymous user has been causing concern with his Leicestershire edits over the past few months, and I noted the over-complication at the time to the Wales population table - the IP has now been temporarily been banned - see the ] section for my summary on the user, in case further such edits occur. --] (]) 13:38, 4 July 2017 (UTC)


I started a ] about a discrepancy I discovered to do with the spelling of the name ] in articles related to Gruffydd ap Llywelyn's family. Anyone care to give some advice as to how to deal with the situation? ] (]) 17:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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:Sometimes, if you want a job done you have to do it yourself. Simple explanation; consistency is needed & Gruffudd was the original modern spelling before a newer Gruffydd, therefore when historians first referred to Gruffydd (Griffiths) they would have pronounced the name with the 'u'. Simple amend, done! ] (]) 00:26, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
] is under discussion at ], the main discussion point being whether the category should be merged into the current county as ] or whether it should reflect the historic county name by being renamed ]. All contributions welcome. ]] 13:24, 30 June 2017 (UTC)


==Discussion at ]==
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== Heneb: the Trust for Welsh Archaeology ==
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We should probably have an article on Heneb, the successor body to the four ], which was established this year, . Is there any preference as to title: '''''Heneb''''' or '''''Heneb: the Trust for Welsh Archaeology'''''? The former is simpler, the latter gives the reader a clearer idea as to what Heneb is. ] (]) 07:10, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
== Huw Cae Llwyd ==


:I'd be inclined, initially at least, to simply make a redirect from '''Heneb''' to ] until we see how Heneb is run and develops. It tends to be the individual archaeological trusts that are cited in articles, I think. ] ] 09:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Does anybody want to have a stab at rescuing ]? I strongly suspect from the odd phrasing that this is a verbatim translation of the 1953 Welsh language book cited, but I very much doubt either that the original will be online, or that anyone is likely to have a copy of it lying around that they can check.&nbsp;&#8209;&nbsp;] 19:38, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
::Yes, that's certainly true at present. Even Heneb’s own website comprises a single webpage, with links to the four trusts, in effect a re-direct itself. I'll do that for now and we can see how it develops. ] (]) 09:17, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
:::@], @], when I updated the pages a while ago on the merger, I did plan to make a ] page but couldn’t find enough sources then. Prefer ] over the name with a description like how ] doesn’t have theirs. ''']]''' 09:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::::That's fine - I've done the redirect as ], although I originally spelt it wrong! As and when there's more info., we can overwrite the redirect. At present, I can't even see such basics as CEO, board, charity registration, so my suggestion for an article was premature. That said, it certainly exists now. How it can, without any of the basics of corporate governance, is beyond me. ] (]) 09:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::p.s. I did not know that "heneb" is Welsh for "ancient monument". I wonder if they are going to set up their own database of historic sites, with their own set of identifiers. I've never really understood why, beyond the historical, ] and ]/] have their own listing systems for what are, in many cases, the same places. ] (]) 09:59, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::I looked up news articles and found two that refer to Heneb and , but nothing that refers to the establishment of the trust. ] ] 12:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)


Here are a few refs that might support an article on Heneb
:"Gwaith Huw Cae Llwyd ac Eraill" has been , so there's some hope of checking things. ] (]) 22:37, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
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My preference would be to rename/move the Welsh Archaeological Trusts article to Heneb leaving the original name as a redirect. The article on the WATs is an overview of the four organisations rather than on a separate entity, and contains nothing that would not be included as part of one of those articles or as part of the history for Heneb. The article can be reworked to include a history section and an updated overview rather than creating a separate article.
== ] inclusion ==


A note on citations - Heneb had always been the website for the Gwynedd Archaeological Trust, so the merger might not cause too many problems with citations from their website, but it may still be worth going through any articles that have citations from here and the other trusts websites and adding archive copies where possible in case these sites stop working after the new-look Heneb site has finished being "under construction". ] (]) 14:34, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Does inclusion in ] automatically confer notability?


:@], isn’t Heneb based on the Dyfed AT?
For instance, ], who wrote two ballads appears in the dictionary, but I am not finding any other sources to establish notability for his own article.
:Neutral on converting Welsh Archaeological Trusts, as it links the old AT articles together but the article isn’t extensive. Wondered if we should re-approach the (old) trusts themselves, convert them to Heneb regions? Delete them? Merge into Heneb? Or keep historical as now? ''']]''' 15:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, you are right it was Dyfed AT that changed name – but the website address Gwynedd had always used is heneb.co.uk, though checking again I see I made the mistake of thinking that this was the same as the new Heneb site (heneb.org.uk). ] (]) 17:23, 17 November 2024 (UTC)


==Discussion at ]==
I am also pinging in {{ping|Jason.nlw|Helenrp}} into this discussion.
]&nbsp;You are invited to join the discussion at ]. &#x0020;Concerning the graphics, potential OR/SYNTH of maps added in good-faith! ''']]''' 15:21, 17 November 2024 (UTC)<!-- ] -->


== Good article reassessment for ] ==
Thanks!–] (]) 17:19, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 01:24, 19 November 2024 (UTC)


== Draft:Duncan Barber - AfC ==
:Definitely not—and ditto for the ] as well (although in the case of the latter, appearing in both the Victorian DNB and the modern ODNB can be reasonable grounds for presuming that somebody has had sustained interest over time and that the reliable sources do exist somewhere). A Dictionary of ''insert country here'' Biography entry can be usable as a ''source'', but if you're unable to find anything elsewhere (as appears to be the case here) then the subject by definition fails the "significant coverage in multiple, independent, non-trivial sources" criterion.
:
:Also be aware that the ODNB is riddled with errors and anything they say should be taken with an extreme pinch of salt, particularly if you can't find corroboration elsewhere, and I suspect the same applies to the DWB. The example I generally use is ], who is as {{tq|the first fatality of the railway age}}, when in reality he wasn't even the first railway fatality in Eccles (and Huskisson was a high-profile cabinet minister, not an obscure and poorly-documented figure where the sources are difficult to check).&nbsp;&#8209;&nbsp;] 18:00, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
::{{u|Iridescent}}, Thanks for your input! So, does it seem reasonable then to tag with articles for {{tl|Proposed deletion}} if
::* there are few sources found for the subject of the article and no significant accomplishments to establish notability
::* there is no corresponding article on Welsh WIkipedia
::I am working ] created from the Dictionary of Welsh Biography and so far ] and ] meet that criteria and have few views, for instance. Thanks!–] (]) 21:57, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
:::You may PROD them for lack of sources or for notability, but non-existence of an article on another language Misplaced Pages is never grounds for deletion here. Each Misplaced Pages sets its own policies and guidelines, including inclusion criteria. --] &#x1f339; (]) 05:51, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


Hello everyone. I have created the draft ]. Barber is a welsh engineer and latterly a businessman specialising in aeronautics. He lives in Penarth, and is also a car enthusiast. If any AfC reviewers have the time or inclination to review the draft, I would be most grateful. Thanks - ] (]) 22:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
::::Absolutely - and ] would almost certainly meet the criteria for inclusion in ] - but, just like here, it's not quite finished yet... ] (]) 10:57, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


:Now reviewed - perhaps someone might be interested in assessing Barber’s Welsh importance? ] (]) 09:30, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi {{u|CaroleHenson}}, I've also been looking at {{u|Helenrp}}'s contributions and have been thinking similar thoughts. The DWB has entries on figures who it notes are obscure, e.g. ]: "" (Though the entry was written in 1959, and more research might have been done on him since.) See also ], which should have taken place here rather than on the talk page of the article for Wales, about poets who might not meet the notability criteria. I agree with Redrose64 and Robevans123 above that whether or not an article exists on cywiki shouldn't come into considerations of notability on enwiki. ] (]) 10:30, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


== Good article reassessment for ] ==
:Great input! {{ping|Redrose64|Robevans123|Ham II}}
] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 20:24, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
:# Regarding inclusion in Welsh Misplaced Pages, it's kind of reverse logic. We generally don't delete an article if there is a corresponding article in Misplaced Pages in the most appropriate language. If there's an article there, then I wouldn't post a Prod tag.
:# I am not sure what makes ] notable, but I removed the Prod tag for that article. I don't know what "it's not quite finished yet" means.
::: "it's not quite finished yet" is merely a jocular reflection on the status of the Welsh Misplaced Pages - it's smaller, has less editors, and is more inclusionist than, the English Misplaced Pages, but, like the English Misplaced Pages is ]. If an editor created a page for every entry in the Dictionary of Welsh Biography then the articles would almost certainly be accepted. The presence or absence of an entry on the Welsh Misplaced Pages should not be used as a argument for or against deleting or creating an article on the English Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 16:16, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
::::::Ah, gotcha. Thanks!–] (]) 17:03, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
::::Reminds me of ]'s comment on the ] clubhouse: "It'll be nice when it's finished". Do you think they ever finished it? – ]] 16:32, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
:# Regarding , it sounds like there are similar concerns regarding notability of some of the articles in DWB. It would be great to have someone take a look at the ones that I have posted Prod tags on from ] as a cross-check - having removed it for Sion Abel, there are 8 articles with Prod tags right now. Can someone help me with that - removing any tags that are disagreed with?–] (]) 13:12, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


==Postnominal letters and infoboxes==
::It's occurred to me that I could borrow ''The New Companion to the Literature of Wales'' (1998) from my local library and note on CaroleHenson's list which authors and poets have "significant coverage" (which I would define as being at least two paragraphs) in both the DWB and the NCLW. Presumably all of these would pass the threshold for notability? (''The Welsh Academy Encyclopaedia of Wales'', 2008, might be another one to consider.) I wouldn't be able to start this for a least another week, however. Or would you like to do this in the National Library, {{u|Jason.nlw}}?
See ] for discussion. -- ] (]) 15:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
::With the {{tl|prod}}ded articles, perhaps the search for significant coverage in independent reliable sources could begin by placing {{tl|Friendly search suggestions}} on the talk pages of each of those articles? ] (]) 14:20, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


== ] ==
:::I am performing searches on each of the articles, including VIAF for authors and The National Library of Wales website, so there's no need to post search suggestions on my account (I have all the main sources (custom google search, JSTOR, etc.) saved in a search folder on my browser). Any other specific source suggestions would be helpful, though.


Project members may wish to assist this article in passing a draft review (it failed). is the subject's entry in the '']'' so the subject is clearly notable. Best.] (]) 03:10, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I wish I had access to the two books that you mentioned, but they are in google books and though only in snippet view, I could search to see if the subjects of the article pop up in a search of the two books, and if they do then consider them notable. Kind of cludgey approach, but it doesn't hurt to check that way.


:Have added a couple of sources, and tidied up a bit. As we have an image, thanks to Jason NLW, we should use it, and the addition of an infobox may help at a subsequent review. Is there anything that could be taken, with attribution, from the existing article on Wicipedia, ? Regards. ] (]) 07:47, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Any assistance is very much appreciated!!!–] (]) 14:47, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

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Gruffydd ap Llylweyn family name discrepency

I started a Talk:Gruffudd ap Llywelyn ap Iorwerth#Family naming inconsistency about a discrepancy I discovered to do with the spelling of the name Gruffudd in articles related to Gruffydd ap Llywelyn's family. Anyone care to give some advice as to how to deal with the situation? Cltjames (talk) 17:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Sometimes, if you want a job done you have to do it yourself. Simple explanation; consistency is needed & Gruffudd was the original modern spelling before a newer Gruffydd, therefore when historians first referred to Gruffydd (Griffiths) they would have pronounced the name with the 'u'. Simple amend, done! Cltjames (talk) 00:26, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Wrexham § a city or the former town/city centre of the City of the County Borough of Wrexham?

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Wrexham § a city or the former town/city centre of the City of the County Borough of Wrexham?. Do we interprete the Letters Patent literally, and regard the City to be Wrexham County Borough and not Wrexham, which in turn is something, anything but "city". DankJae 16:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Aneurin Bevan

Aneurin Bevan has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 16:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Informal discussion

An informal discussion of article issues, a "Before opening a reassessment", has been initiated at Talk:Dylan Thomas#Article issues and classification -- Otr500 (talk) 14:59, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Heneb: the Trust for Welsh Archaeology

We should probably have an article on Heneb, the successor body to the four Welsh Archaeological Trusts, which was established this year, . Is there any preference as to title: Heneb or Heneb: the Trust for Welsh Archaeology? The former is simpler, the latter gives the reader a clearer idea as to what Heneb is. KJP1 (talk) 07:10, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I'd be inclined, initially at least, to simply make a redirect from Heneb to Welsh Archaeological Trusts until we see how Heneb is run and develops. It tends to be the individual archaeological trusts that are cited in articles, I think. Tony Holkham (Talk) 09:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Yes, that's certainly true at present. Even Heneb’s own website comprises a single webpage, with links to the four trusts, in effect a re-direct itself. I'll do that for now and we can see how it develops. KJP1 (talk) 09:17, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
@KJP1, @Tony Holkham, when I updated the pages a while ago on the merger, I did plan to make a Heneb page but couldn’t find enough sources then. Prefer Heneb over the name with a description like how Cadw doesn’t have theirs. DankJae 09:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
That's fine - I've done the redirect as Heneb, although I originally spelt it wrong! As and when there's more info., we can overwrite the redirect. At present, I can't even see such basics as CEO, board, charity registration, so my suggestion for an article was premature. That said, it certainly exists now. How it can, without any of the basics of corporate governance, is beyond me. KJP1 (talk) 09:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
p.s. I did not know that "heneb" is Welsh for "ancient monument". I wonder if they are going to set up their own database of historic sites, with their own set of identifiers. I've never really understood why, beyond the historical, Cadw and RCAHMW/Coflein have their own listing systems for what are, in many cases, the same places. KJP1 (talk) 09:59, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
I looked up news articles and found two that refer to Heneb here and here, but nothing that refers to the establishment of the trust. Tony Holkham (Talk) 12:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Here are a few refs that might support an article on Heneb

Tony Holkham (Talk) 12:52, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

My preference would be to rename/move the Welsh Archaeological Trusts article to Heneb leaving the original name as a redirect. The article on the WATs is an overview of the four organisations rather than on a separate entity, and contains nothing that would not be included as part of one of those articles or as part of the history for Heneb. The article can be reworked to include a history section and an updated overview rather than creating a separate article.

A note on citations - Heneb had always been the website for the Gwynedd Archaeological Trust, so the merger might not cause too many problems with citations from their website, but it may still be worth going through any articles that have citations from here and the other trusts websites and adding archive copies where possible in case these sites stop working after the new-look Heneb site has finished being "under construction". EdwardUK (talk) 14:34, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

@EdwardUK, isn’t Heneb based on the Dyfed AT?
Neutral on converting Welsh Archaeological Trusts, as it links the old AT articles together but the article isn’t extensive. Wondered if we should re-approach the (old) trusts themselves, convert them to Heneb regions? Delete them? Merge into Heneb? Or keep historical as now? DankJae 15:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Yes, you are right it was Dyfed AT that changed name – but the website address Gwynedd had always used is heneb.co.uk, though checking again I see I made the mistake of thinking that this was the same as the new Heneb site (heneb.org.uk). EdwardUK (talk) 17:23, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:England–Wales border § Recently added maps

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:England–Wales border § Recently added maps. Concerning the graphics, potential OR/SYNTH of maps added in good-faith! DankJae 15:21, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Martha Hughes Cannon

Martha Hughes Cannon has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 01:24, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Duncan Barber - AfC

Hello everyone. I have created the draft Duncan Barber (businessman). Barber is a welsh engineer and latterly a businessman specialising in aeronautics. He lives in Penarth, and is also a car enthusiast. If any AfC reviewers have the time or inclination to review the draft, I would be most grateful. Thanks - Mac Edmunds (talk) 22:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Now reviewed - perhaps someone might be interested in assessing Barber’s Welsh importance? Mac Edmunds (talk) 09:30, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Anglesey Central Railway

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Postnominal letters and infoboxes

See Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Biography#MOS:POSTNOM for discussion. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Draft:William Owen (composer)

Project members may wish to assist this article in passing a draft review (it failed). Here is the subject's entry in the Dictionary of Welsh Biography so the subject is clearly notable. Best.4meter4 (talk) 03:10, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Have added a couple of sources, and tidied up a bit. As we have an image, thanks to Jason NLW, we should use it, and the addition of an infobox may help at a subsequent review. Is there anything that could be taken, with attribution, from the existing article on Wicipedia, ? Regards. KJP1 (talk) 07:47, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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