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== Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2021 ==
== Meaningless Definition? ==


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Everything we encounter interacts with our physiology. It all causes some sort of physiological change. What by the listed definition is not a drug? If the category includes everything, is it not meaningless?
A very useful graph showing the potential for self harm or harm to others by David J Nutt should be added. I have made one and it's ready to use. Be aware that there is a english and a german version. For a preview you can check the german wiki page of drugs. ] (]) 13:11, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
:] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> An actual link to the graph would be helpful. ] (]) 13:24, 6 May 2021 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2021 ==
== A drug in the broadest sense ==


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Your lede is false - I can't edit since I choose to only do so anon. "Drug" in the broadest sense used in the world is not limited to "chemical substances". In the US Food and Drug Act, the definition of drug is anything manmade that is intended to affect human health. In fact, it is this provision upon which the regulation of medical devices and cell therapies has been based in the US. That is certainly not what drug means in common use, nor do I propose that this article say so (except as a single sentence somewhere deep in the article). However, I do propose that it's false to say "in the broadest sense" that a drug must be a chemical substance, as the lede does now. ] (]) 20:32, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
"Abuse of several psychoactive drugs can cause psychological or physical addiction."
:Wouldn't anything "anything manmade intended to affect human health" include medical devices? ] (]) 20:34, 20 February 2016 (UTC)


Should be changed to "Abuse of several psychoactive drugs can cause addiction and/or physical dependence". " "Physical dependence" should link to the page "drug dependence" and "addiction" should have its own link.
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== Refine definition ==
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== indovenous isn't a valid route ==
As {{U|MaximRecoil}} has pointed out on ], alcohol may qualify as a ] since it has considerable caloric value. Reliable sources also call it drug. This conflicts with our definition of "drug" here. Do reliable sources have a more general definition of "drug" that do not necessarily exclude foods? ] (]) 02:34, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
:Anyone have thoughts on this matter. ] (]) 00:30, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
::The calories in alcohol are said to be empty calories having no nutritional value. Alcohol may contain various trace minerals and vitamins but not enough to classify as nutritional (all accord to common searches) and so not really to be classed as a food. There is no doubt mentioned anywhere of its status as a drug. Also simply in terms of any food value - many entheogens are sourced from foods that would have far more nutritional value but are still classed according to their drug properties.--] (]) 08:50, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
:::I don't doubt that it is a drug and the argument about nutritional value is what I gave to MaximRecoil. MaximRecoil does refer to this paper which calls alcohol a macronutrient though. Also our ] article calls ethanol a food in the body. ] (]) 09:24, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
::::This paper refers to alcohol as an inessential food so imo does not warrant the use of it as a ] as defined by the entry page. Also I don't see the that it conflicts with the definition used here - its stated that ...any substance...consumed - doesn't that cover it?--] (]) 11:42, 18 December 2016 (UTC) Sorry I just read the definition here....--] (]) 11:43, 18 December 2016 (UTC)


Administration of drugs
The definition seems overbroad, because most things cause physiological changes in the body when consumed. Eating bread, for example, triggers a sequence of responses in the body which result in insulin being produced. Drinking more than a couple of litres of water within a few minutes causes quite large physiological changes, which can result in serious harm or even death. ] (]) 07:10, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Main article: Route of administration
:I believe this is why the definition specifically exempts food. ] (]) 17:40, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
All drugs, can be administered via a number of routes, and many can be administered by more than one.
Bolus is the administration of a medication, drug or other compound that is given to raise its concentration in blood to an effective level. The administration can be given intravenously, by parenteral,by indovenous, by intramuscular, intrathecal or subcutaneous injection. ] (]) 03:41, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
:Agree; removed and took 'bolus' out of that list, as its not a route of administration. ] (]) 16:58, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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The term "drug" has become a ]; ] can have a negative connotation, often associated with illegal substances like cocaine or heroin. This is despite the fact that the terms "drug" and "medicine" are sometimes used interchangeably.<ref>{{cite journal |pmc=7120710 |date=2011 |title=Introduction to Drugs and Drug Targets |journal=The Science and Business of Drug Discovery |pages=11–27 |doi=10.1007/978-1-4419-9902-3_2 | vauthors = Zanders ED |isbn=978-1-4419-9901-6 }}</ref>
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== Classification vs Medication content ==
Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 06:02, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

The first half of the classification section is the exact same as the last paragraph of the medication section. I wonder if there is a way these sections could be combined, or be better distinguished from each other? ] (]) 06:49, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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A very useful graph showing the potential for self harm or harm to others by David J Nutt should be added. I have made one and it's ready to use. Be aware that there is a english and a german version. For a preview you can check the german wiki page of drugs. SiXtreme (talk) 13:11, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: An actual link to the graph would be helpful. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:24, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

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"Abuse of several psychoactive drugs can cause psychological or physical addiction."

Should be changed to "Abuse of several psychoactive drugs can cause addiction and/or physical dependence". " "Physical dependence" should link to the page "drug dependence" and "addiction" should have its own link.

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 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Pupsterlove02 talkcontribs/

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indovenous isn't a valid route

Administration of drugs Main article: Route of administration All drugs, can be administered via a number of routes, and many can be administered by more than one. Bolus is the administration of a medication, drug or other compound that is given to raise its concentration in blood to an effective level. The administration can be given intravenously, by parenteral,by indovenous, by intramuscular, intrathecal or subcutaneous injection. Tada222 (talk) 03:41, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Agree; removed and took 'bolus' out of that list, as its not a route of administration. Klbrain (talk) 16:58, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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Terminology

I suggest a section called ==Terminology== with the following text:

The term "drug" has become a skunked term; Drugs can have a negative connotation, often associated with illegal substances like cocaine or heroin. This is despite the fact that the terms "drug" and "medicine" are sometimes used interchangeably.

--94.255.152.53 (talk) 06:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC) 94.255.152.53 (talk) 06:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Agree with the sentiment; I've added something along these lines to the existing Etymology section. Klbrain (talk) 17:06, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

References

  1. Zanders ED (2011). "Introduction to Drugs and Drug Targets". The Science and Business of Drug Discovery: 11–27. doi:10.1007/978-1-4419-9902-3_2. ISBN 978-1-4419-9901-6. PMC 7120710.

Classification vs Medication content

The first half of the classification section is the exact same as the last paragraph of the medication section. I wonder if there is a way these sections could be combined, or be better distinguished from each other? TempestSounds (talk) 06:49, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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