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==Welcome== | |||
I can't find this NRHP property on Misplaced Pages. NRHP documents . What am I missing? ] (]) 23:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
A big thanks also to all who've chosen to participate in this project. I'm looking forward to much productiveness, but also fun. I think it's neat to learn about all this historical stuff, and am glad to find others so inclined. | |||
:Good catch. It's definitely on the NRHP. The reference number is and the address is . Some photos of the house can be found . You can update ] with the information if you'd like. ] (]) 04:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Requested move at ] == | |||
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== Good article reassessment for ] == | |||
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] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 17:40, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Proposed: Some text added to the talk pages to answer questions about what to do with all the redlinks and DABs on the lists. Text could be added to {{tl|WikiProject National Register of Historic Places list}}, or on the Wikiproject page, etc. Refer to: ] and ]. P.S. There are "related Wikiprojects" for several States —{{User|Dogears}} 02:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
==Cleanup and cross-referencing for the state lists== | |||
In the process of cleaning up and cross-referencing stuff on the Minnesota list, I've found a few things: | |||
* There are article entries in the list that point to valid articles, but those articles aren't within the relevant category (e.g. ]). Any articles in the list that are on the National Register should be within the appropriate state category. | |||
* The state lists contain a lot of ambiguous links (as Dogears pointed out above), such as ], ], ], and so on. | |||
* Any sites that are in ] are also on the National Register, and should be listed within the state's category. The same is true for ] and other historic sites in the National Parks System. | |||
I have questions about this newly-added listing. As no documentation appears when I click the external link, and that's being used in lieu of a third-party source, it fails ] at present. ]/]/] 05:46, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Also, here are a couple Web resources for doing research: | |||
:From the list: {{indent|10}}{{main other|{{short description|none|2=noreplace}}}}''This ] list is complete through posted {{NRHP date for lists/dates|Alaska}}.''{{#tag:ref|National Park Service, ], , retrieved {{NRHP date for lists/dates{{!}}Alaska}}.}} | |||
* - list of National Historic Landmarks | |||
:In this case, it is in the . '']''] 18:46, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* - database that can be queried by state, city, site name, or combinations thereof | |||
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== Requested move at ] == | |||
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:Put those links on the main page. And funny you should mention the articles being under the wrong states, as I noticed that a lot whilst doing the Florida entries. Checking that blue links go to the right articles should definitely be one of our highest priorities. Also creating disambiguation pages for the multi entries (like some of the churches and post offices, for example). | |||
:Good, some things to add to the 'to-do' list. -] 13:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Good morning. I think I've managed to disambiguate the ] but one creeps in once in a while, so it's good to check out all the blue links occasionally. (Unfortunately Oregon is still mostly redlinks, so it's fairly easy). Besides all of Dogears' and Elkman's excellent advice above, I'd also like to add that the way the NRHP refers to a site is quite often not the way everyone else refers to it, so there may already be an article you can link to. I've been leaving the name according to NRHP on the list and making a piped link to the existing article. And thanks for the infobox. Happy editing! ] 13:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
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:I just ran across the TOC at ]. Looks like a good way to do it. ] 14:21, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Greater Nassau County NY lists == | |||
:Naming conventions can be quite squirrelly with the NRHP. I usually go with how it's listed, or the original name of the place, when it can be found. I also include other names with ''(also known as '''other name''')'' It does pay to search, though. Why create a new article if you can just link to (and update a bit) a pre-existing one. | |||
:Example: The former Delray Beach Schools are now part of Old School Square, for which there was an article. | |||
:And let's not even get into the Register getting the addresses wrong sometimes. -] 14:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
Howdy, some rearranging has been done recently on different lists for Nassau County, NY. Two new sublists have been created: ], and ]. Can someone get these lists added into the Progress list, so the counts are back up to date? Thanks, ] (]) 16:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Yes, I was going to add that the Oregon list had some duplications and cities put into the wrong counties. I discovered that some of these things are fire lookout towers and such that are located in one county, but the closest town is in another county. For now I put "City Name (vicinity)" next to those but that's only a stopgap measure. ] 14:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I'll take care of it. '']''] 16:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
There are also the occasional complete misspellings of cities. Like Tavarcs instead of Tavares, Dayton Beach instead of Daytona Beach, Islamoranda instead of Islamorada. And that's just here in Florida. Those I totally correct, to make it, you know, accurate. --] 15:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Requested move at ] == | |||
== Project infobox == | |||
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran ] 04:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Well...this project came together quickly. I suggest removing the map for the infobox and allowing an image to be used instead. I believe that for this project, a locator map is less useful than an image since we are dealing with specific points less related to geography and more related to history...so images work best. I might also suggest using parser functions only for the infobox as that will make it a lot easier to transclude...example at ] and the usage is demonstrated on the ]...the parameters can be easily adjusted and one can even pick a color for the banner at ].--] 06:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
As another thought, perhaps incorporating the date the site was listed along with the structure or district number in the infobox would be helpful....--] 06:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I "borrowed" bits from that template; quite useful. | |||
:I'd prefer images be used instead of maps as well. But for so many of them, there aren't pictures. I'm thinking that we can use the map as a default, but if a picture becomes available, the map can always be replaced with it. | |||
:I put in 'Built/Founded' for the a Historic Place's initial construction or discovery, and 'Added' for when it got put on the Register. Yep, that should be on the talk page as part of the 'how-to' | |||
:There's part of me that would really like the map (when one's being used) to be of the state, rather than the whole U.S., but don't know if that would work. Anyone having more info in that regard? -] 13:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
Tried both ways, and looks workable in either version: | |||
* with map - ] | |||
* with picture - ] | |||
Open to adding other fields to the infobox, but at least the basics are there. -] 14:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
Other fields (some can remain blank for particular articles) might include Site, District, Building and Structure, with the NRHP numerical listing number in the right side of the field, but I wouldn't say that this is mandatory. It looks really nice as it stands now. Good work.--] 20:46, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Looks good. I've put ] locator maps on the ones I've created (without pictures) so far. Did this project really just start yesterday? The question I have about the infobox is what the ''governing body'' field should contain. ~ ] 04:36, 19 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
::I've been thinking about that. I used the Protected Areas infobox and tweaked it to create the NRHP one. I'd say that ''governing body'' should be the actual "owner" of the place. You know, U.S., state, county, city, or private. Sometimes it's confusing as to the ownership. In that case, I'd leave it blank, and maybe put a note on the talk page of the article, or the project here, or both. | |||
::Yes, we did start yesterday. All input (politely phrased, natch) is welcome. Nothing's set in stone yet. As if anything is on Misplaced Pages, right? :) --] 13:34, 19 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Can I add Microsoft Excel files somewhere? == | |||
I have some spreadsheets I use to help me when making NRHP info, disambig pages and such. I was wondering if there's somewhere on Misplaced Pages I can upload them to, for general availability. --] 16:23, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Not sure...see ]--] 20:41, 18 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Changes == | |||
Hi guys! I made some changes. First, I created a ]. Secondly, I changed the outline of the page, making the title and scope it's own sections. I moved some stuff around to fit better in the outline. Lastly, I also created a naming standard for the articles. However, this should be polled on this talk page. As a temporary measure, I placed as the standard, '''Name ''(city)'''''. | |||
Any suggestions on the article names? | |||
--] 20:43, 19 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
* Wow, our own userbox already! I was gonna try creating one, but yours looks fine to me. :) Article naming conventions are definitely a major topic for discussion. I've got some ideas, and I'll cogitate on that for a while, and all you lovermous folks can chime in as you so wish. :) --] 21:15, 19 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Stub and category creation, please pause == | |||
I do appreciate the creation of the new ones. However, it may have to be changed. I proposed these at the stub proposals area, and they're in the process of doing so. So let's hold off a bit before adding more of the new stub. If it were just me, it'd be fine, but I want to make sure that ] are appropriately appeased. :) --] 01:05, 20 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
To see the history and progress on this, check '']''. --] 01:13, 20 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Article naming conventions for the project == | |||
* Multiple entries under the same name is '''''so''''' an issue for this project. Just look at ], or ], for example. To differentiate, there are several options: | |||
# '''''' - if necessary | |||
# '''''' - if necessary | |||
# '''''' | |||
# '''''' | |||
There are so many city names that exist in multiple states. Miami, Florida and Miami, Ohio is only one example. That's why I'm not enamoured of option 1. Option 2, well, there could be multiple places with the same name in a state. Again, post offices and churches spring to mind. As far as option 3, it's a possibility, but there can be more than one same name place in a county. | |||
I think the last option is the best. My philosophy has been not to only fix problems, but to circumvent future potential problems. , to me, would serve that purpose best. I'm not fond of "sometimes it's city, sometimes it's state, sometimes it's both." It's a little bit too ]y, to my mind. Option 4 would be more generally consistent, overall. Less ] potential. | |||
But that's just me. What do ''I'' know? ;) --] 01:53, 20 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I've tried to take that in consideration for some of the NRHP articles I have written; ] is a perfect example of what you were discussing. I wrote an article originally under ], and then made that link a redirect to a better named article. However, there is at least one other Tunnel Mill that is NRHP so that will have to be a disambigation page eventually. |
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Luther Palmer House / Pauchinganuc Farm
I can't find this NRHP property on Misplaced Pages. NRHP documents here. What am I missing? FloridaArmy (talk) 23:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Good catch. It's definitely on the NRHP. The reference number is 08000498 and the address is 812 Pendleton Hill Road. Some photos of the house can be found here. You can update National Register of Historic Places listings in New London County, Connecticut with the information if you'd like. APK hi :-) (talk) 04:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Brown's Hall-Thompson's Opera House#Requested move 15 December 2024
An editor has requested that Brown's Hall-Thompson's Opera House be moved to Thompson's Opera House, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for National Register of Historic Places
National Register of Historic Places has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 17:40, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Fairbanks North Star Borough, Alaska#Chena Building?
I have questions about this newly-added listing. As no documentation appears when I click the external link, and that's being used in lieu of a third-party source, it fails WP:V at present. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 05:46, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- From the list:
This National Park Service list is complete through NPS recent listings posted January 3, 2025. - In this case, it is in the December 13 list. Magic♪piano 18:46, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Gem Theatre#Requested move 27 December 2024
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References
- National Park Service, United States Department of the Interior, "National Register of Historic Places: Weekly List Actions", retrieved January 3, 2025.
Greater Nassau County NY lists
Howdy, some rearranging has been done recently on different lists for Nassau County, NY. Two new sublists have been created: National Register of Historic Places listings in Long Beach, New York, and National Register of Historic Places listings in Glen Cove, New York. Can someone get these lists added into the Progress list, so the counts are back up to date? Thanks, 25or6to4 (talk) 16:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'll take care of it. Magic♪piano 16:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Gem Theatre#Requested move 27 December 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Gem Theatre#Requested move 27 December 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 04:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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