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== Stormfront. == | |||
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I think hiding the references in comments is deeply silly, as you may as well not have them for all the use they are to the casual reader. I can appreciate, however, that we do not want to artificially inflate a hate site's rankings on Google. Surely, though, it is very easy to simply reference urls without linking them? i.e. en.wikipedia.org? Would this not work? ] 21:42, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
This page is a very useful page in highlighting the problems ] and adminship in general face. I've ] removed the speedy tag from it, and also requested undeletion of the images that were used on it. I hope you will see through to not contesting this. Regardless of the problems of late, that page is very, very good. Thank you, --] (]) 19:36, 3 August 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks for looking it over. I don't know if Google would pick up on non-linked URLs or not. My concern is that if we treat Stormfront differently than we treat any other websites, isn't Misplaced Pages essentially passing judgement on whether a referenced is "Good" or "Bad"? I mean, I'm comfortable with me, a human being, saying that white supremacists are bad, but I tend to think Misplaced Pages should have as a "neutral" a point-of-view as possible on political issues. Should we have a different set of rules for hate sites than we have for other sites? What do you think? It's a complicated issue-- no one wants to help the Nazis, but I don't want to discriminate against them either --] 21:51, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Yes, I do agree with you, though I think the references condemn them ipso facto! There is a policy discussion going on at the village pump about this, I know, but what might be more useful is if you could find any previous examples of what people have done when faced with refrencing hate sites. I've been checking neo-nazi articles but haven't found anything as yet - you might have a bit more luck. ] 22:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
::As far as i know the surest way not to inflate their page rank is to link the google-cached version.-- <span style="background-color: White">]<sup>] ]</sup></span> 22:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Hi Alec, that's some interesting stuff you found about that reporter. Nice work :). Yes I think it should stay in but some people are determined to keep it out. Strange, seeing as how that was the main barrier they had and was what they were insisting on. You'd think that finding a story, which is actually reproduced on their site, would be good enough to satisfy them. I'm going to just keep putting it back in. Thanks again, ] 12:56, 28 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
A cookie for you, wherever you are. Thanks for the light you brought to the projects. <span style="color:#666;">– ]]</span> 21:32, 21 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Hi Alec, I'm trying to figure out what my next step should be regarding the ] pages. SafeLibraries has been treading into some areas that I'm not entirely comfortable with on the ] as far as bringing my personal/professional life into my trying to keep the ALA article reasonable. I'll happilly step away from it if that's whats indicated, I just feel that his continual attempts to inject more controversy into this page are bordering on bad behavior. Care to offer some advice either here or via email? Thanks. ] (]) 14:53, 28 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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hey Alec, i just wanted to give my thanks to you for taking a good amount of time to comment on the article in question, it was a very thoughtful contribution. i know what you mean when you talk about few responses to RfC's, it can sometimes be very disappointing, so even more thanks for taking the time to help out. regards, ] 16:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Sure, put it back in if you like but please don't touch the Don Black illegal activity part in the first section. ] 16:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
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I hope your burnout was limited to your editing as a Wikipedian. Have a great life. —] (] • ]) 00:52, 14 July 2018 (UTC) | |||
We were specifically told by ElC not to include more than one link to SF. If you want the reference you can make it hidden. Don't get on my case for deleting stuff and then do the same in return. ] 12:43, 6 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
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There is an hourly struggle over this article, and it only gets worse. Oh well. At least in a few weeks people will be willing to delete it. ] 08:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
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THIS USER IS: BURNOUT VICTIM It's been a great decade, but it's time to go. Or at least, time to hibernate. I've done all I can here.
The Inevitable EnWP Burnout...
- Acute Causes
- The May 2010 image deletions really shook my confidence in some leaders.
- The lack of engagement and discussion in June 2011 elections shook my faith in the global movement.
- The admission from a 'trusted insider' that my communications are ineffective and largely ignored shook my faith in my ability to productively improve the large-scale movement.
- A dispute about deletion of fair use material shook my faith in our project's ability to embrace 'openness' to the extent needed.
- Chronic Causes
- Any deletion of good-faith contributions is demoralizing and a little 'un-wiki'.
- Instruction creep and an increase in 'because we said so' logic
- In content disputes, the best revision doesn't win-- the most passionate faction's revision wins. Quality doesn't always improve over time.
- Substantial edits involve Too much 'BS' time (edit disputes, etc) not enough 'authoring' time.
- Insight and Predictions
- Radical innovation is required to solve these problems.
- WMF doesn't innovate rapidly or well.
- Non-WMF services will outpace our own projects.
- The cutting edge be distributed-wikis or cloud-wikis.
- WMF will be forced to play technological 'catch up' for the foreseeable futurs.
- Positions
I continue to strongly support the Wikimedia Foundation, the Wiki Movement, and EnWP and wish the organizations the best. I will continue to support their values in the future. Wikimedia is a good thing, worthy of our support. But the stress has outstripped the payoff-- money and code I'll donate-- donating large chucks of time just isn't worth the hassles.
On Burnout
- Last nail of EnWP
- I uploaded a couple images. They're "free content" as I use the term. Their distribution is 100% legal already, but especially under fair use.
- The images were later deleted. This was a highly demoralizing event.
- Similar "demoralizing deletions' were already under heated discussion. I added my comments.
- My words were met with personal attacks, bogus block threats, and outright lies from deleters.
- A small cadre of like-minded users endorsed these anti-social comments or even joined in the attacks.
- Ramifications
- I have concluded that with EnWp's growth & age have produced a semi-dysfunctional, unpredictable, and highly hostile editing environment.
- I can no longer predict whether a good-faith contribution will be welcomed or merely deleted.
- No one can donate substantial time to a project that may not even value the contribution.
- Bye
- I won't be missed. I write more code than content. Mature projects need gnomes, and I'm not a gnome.
- "I'm getting too old for this shit" When people get to my age, they don't edit WP, they publish signed articles and books. At some point, people just want to write, they don't want to have fight for the chance. Edit wars are a game for the young, and I haven't been young for a long time.
- I still support the project, the movement, and the foundation. I will continue to donate my code and my currency to support this effort-- but donating time to EnWP is no longer a good use of time for me.
- Rationale
- If you burnout after 8 years, you owe people an explaination so they can learn from you. So, learn what you will.
other
- This user was known as alecmconrory during activity period 2-aug-06 - 2-aug-11
- This user name has (or will be) been scrambled to a random string to signify it's 'out of use'.
- Thus user has been (or will be) indefinitely blocked at their own request.
The last last word
Requested an indef block, request denied. I could 'earn' one, I suppose, but I'll enact my own.
My old email address is now disabled. Passwords to it and this account have been set to randomly generated strings that I remained blind to. This creates a de facto indefinite ban.
With my last edit, I'd request you 'vanish' me to the extent that seems reasonable. User:Alecmconroy is now a misnomer, as I am no longer a user.
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Thanks for your loyal dissent
I know you are long-gone and probably not monitoring this talk page anymore, but just in case you are, I want to thank you for Misplaced Pages:Dissent is not disloyalty. As you can see, the essay has grown and improved over the years despite some initial resistance, and it has been incorporated into Misplaced Pages culture as a recognized value among a large contingent of Wikipedians. The essay you created, and the work you did to defend it, is a testament to how dissent is not disloyalty—and how constructive dissent, like constructive edits, improve Misplaced Pages.
I hope your burnout was limited to your editing as a Wikipedian. Have a great life. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 00:52, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
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