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Here's a first: my years of writing and reviewing FAs from making MoS fixes to articles owned by the "little people". ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 23:24, 4 January 2018 (UTC) Here's a first: my years of writing and reviewing FAs from making MoS fixes to articles owned by the "little people". ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 23:24, 4 January 2018 (UTC)


== Did you know... == == I wonder ... ==


... how long will stay visible. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 07:00, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
...that ], ], and to a lesser extent ] and ] all originated in Asia but are now practiced primarily by westerners? That's the impression I get from the (distribution of) photographs in our articles on them, anyway.


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: What do you expect where not even flowers are welcome? --] (]) 07:46, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
:: ]: ]'s telling an unprovoked lie about me. Seriously, what the fuck? And why now? When's the last time I even interacted with the guy? And why not delete his (''actual'') trolling of me while you're at it? These questions aren't rhetorical ...
:: ... and what in the flying fuck are you accusing me of that would "backfire"?! What fucking game ''is'' this?! ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 08:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
::: I wonder what makes the difference between ] and ], protect one, but revert the other? Also the difference between ] and ]. --] (]) 09:02, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
:::: I don't give two shits about the Infobox Wars; I give many, many shits about the spreading of cowardly lies about me. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 09:11, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::. But you keep telling yourself that. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 12:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::: ] "creative interpretation" doesn't even make sense in the context (tellingly, you don't even try). Neither does bringing it up out of the blue two years after the blocks expired. I'd've thought having successfully conned an admin into administering 20% of my blocks would've been revenge enough for calling you out, but apparently you intend to spread this lie until you're finally indeffed. That's some superhuman grudgeholding. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 22:38, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::"Calling out" for what? Be very careful, or I'll see to it that my 20% stake in your block log is increased. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 09:46, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::: "Calling you out" for digging up every opportunity to keep your end of that discussion knee-deep in irrelevant ad hominems, of course. Resorting to laughably empty threats instead of retracting your lie only paints you as more the coward, terrified to own up to his missteps. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 10:08, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::As I think we've established, it wasn't a lie. Anyway, this is my last post conversing with you. I have better things to do, like going to watch some grass grow '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 19:54, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::: You haven't been "conversing" with anyone—you've been trolling and lying, and doing a piss-poor job of hiding it. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 21:27, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::: Of course, a troll'd troll poorly if they didn't deny everything, so I guess the only thing to do at this point is to keep this horseshit out in the open—sunlight as disinfectant. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 23:30, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


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: It's unsurprising. Most of those editing these articles—and taking and uploading images—would be Westerners, wouldn't they? Compounded by the fact that ja.wp perhaps is less active than it could be—from what I understand, de.wp is more active with a smaller population of speakers, for instance. That's not the type of "bias" that deserves finger-pointing, but still requires correction. I'm surprised you even mentioned ], though—the only photo of non-Japanese in that one is from the Philippines.
] (]) 01:12, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
: I don't know how much of a photographer you are (I'm pretty shitty), but this could be an opportunity to not only correct the bias, but add some appropriate photos to the articles—say, a gallery of the various techniques. Or enlist a helpful friend willing to donate their work. ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 05:36, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
: ]: Are you sure? I don't see anything, and it's not an area I normally edit. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 04:59, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
:: I ran into an IP-hopper/vandal who was deleting the phrase from the disambiguation line of the article & you had edited the article somewhat recently (lol maybe August of lAst year?) and I was wondering what the consensus about the phrase might be. That's all - an admin stepped in on the situation. Thanks, ] (]) 05:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)


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:: Please check out "Happy" once more, for ], and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Misplaced Pages, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? - Can you check out the last entry on my talk, for notabilty? Look for "Japanese". --] (]) 13:13, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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Again I must ask, how is this guy not blocked yet?

I also don't recall any specific time in the past he's told me to stay off his talk page; he's blanked my comments a bunch of times with nonsense/sarcastic/degrading edit summaries, but the closest he came to was "Do not post on my talk page unless it is an actual discussion" -- hardly "specifically to stop posting to talk page ", and by telling me to "Cease immediately, else be faced with a report similar to those threaten and intimidate multiple other editors with" -- I don't even know what he's talking about, since it's been months since I "threatened" a single editor with such a report, and then not with the intent of "intimidating" like using legalistic language like "cease immediately". (And yes, I know he's almost certainly referring to , in which I said {{tq|''dig your heels in, deny, and get blocked to prevent further damage to the project''}} but there was also the critical context in which it was posted -- {{tq|''Seriously, take the hint here. I'm trying to ''help'' you, but you are digging yourself a hole that you're not going to be able to get out of. '''' I'm ''begging you'' '''' to ''''.''}})

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Hi. Please do not restore that content again. The thread was closed to stop you and the other editor arguing unproductively. Carrying on afterwards is not acceptable, hence its removal. Restore it again and I will block your account from editing for disruption. Regards, <u style="text-decoration:none;font:1.1em/1em Arial Black;letter-spacing:-0.09em">]+]</u> 11:36, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
: ]: It's all going straight back up again tomorrow regardless, so you're not accomplishing anything but aggravating people with this behaviour. You still have the option to revert and hat, like I requested—unless threatening victims of harassment with blocks is more your style. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 11:47, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
::As I said, restore it again and you will be blocked for disruption. Being very clear on an entirely avoidable consequence is not a threat. If you want to carry on arguing with another user, do it elsewhere. The thread was closed, this means "stop". I am sorry that you are a victim of harassment, or feel like you are; if you wish to report that harassment please do so, as I would hope it could be resolved. However, this does not exempt you from anything, including being expected to know when to ]. You have been asked, and now have been told, to not post that content back again; that really should be the end of it. If you need it for an arbitration request, or whatever, the diffs are all in the page history. <u style="text-decoration:none;font:1.1em/1em Arial Black;letter-spacing:-0.09em">]+]</u> 12:34, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
::: ]: I requested you to hat it rather than obfuscate the record, and you responded with an immediate revert and threat to block, choosing the more aggressive of the options. And here you are reiterating the threat (twice in one post) when it's obvious I'm not about to revert it. Your heels are too firmly dug in to get my hopes up, but perhaps you'll reconsider your approach in the future. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 12:57, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
:::A re-revert, not a revert. If it's "obvious (you're) not about to revert it" then why say "It's all going straight back up again tomorrow regardless"? If I mistook your meaning there I do apologize. <u style="text-decoration:none;font:1.1em/1em Arial Black;letter-spacing:-0.09em">]+]</u> 13:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
:::: As in, it's all going straight back into the ANI report I promised, which I've now filed. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 14:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::Which is fine, that's what ANI is for, no objection to that. Apologies again for mistaking your meaning - I was under the impression it meant you were going to re-post the content at the end of a closed thread, again. <u style="text-decoration:none;font:1.1em/1em Arial Black;letter-spacing:-0.09em">]+]</u> 15:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

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== Regarding Borodin and news from Moscow ==

In regard to , I don't think it was ''The Moscow News'' at the time Borodin worked there. The sources I used referred to ''Moscow News'', and the . The name ''The Moscow News'' seems to have been adopted in one of the more recent incarnations of the paper. ] — ] 06:36, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
: ]—if that's the case, then change it back. You'll probably want to slap a {{tl|not a typo}} on it, and a hidden comment explaining why so someone else doesn't gnome it away again. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 22:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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== Feeling a bit of an ego boost, but also apologetic ==

Within moments of the 令和 announcement, the BBC and multiple other English-language outlets had announced that 令 meant "order" or "command" (the clearly bogus implication that the two are different, and therefore that it means order in the sense 順番 or the like, aside, a 万葉集 Book V passage was clearly cited as the source, and in that context it meant "good" or "auspicious"). The administration's intentions in choosing a character that to 99% of Japanese means "command" can be speculated on, I guess, but it just seemed sloppy to me; someone cited them in our article, I tagged the citation as not being the best, and shortly thereafter the BBC article had been partly amended, using the same words as my tag did. I'm definitely not the only one to notice that error, and I wasn't the first, but I imagine a ''lot'' of people were looking at Misplaced Pages to check these things.

All that said, a bunch of source's have mistakenly identified the 万葉集 as "Japan's oldest poetry anthology", apparently mirroring a mistranslation that appeared on the Kantei's website. I could have probably prevented some of that if I had done several days ago (or years ago when I first noticed that it was quite a common problem) what I just did now and added "It is not Japan's oldest poetry anthology" to the lead of our article.

It'll probably not be until the next era change (I kinda wish Japan would go back to the old system where eras change a lot more frequently than sovereigns) before my area of the encyclopedia gets that much attention.

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: Have you been following the English coverage? It gets {{em|soooooo}} much shittier than all that. Check out how many sources translate 令 not only as "order" but '''"orderly"''' (!!!!!), so that they translate 令和 as '''"orderly peace"''' (!'''!'''!'''!'''!).
: You appear to be aware that there's controversy in the press and amongst politicians over the name, and there really should be more in the article about it (for example, it's been brought up that the only other time in history 令 was proposed in a nengō was with 令徳, which was rejected as implying "徳川に命令する", so the concerns with the choice "really" meaning "command" are nothing new, and likely known when the choce was made).
: The '']'' article could sure use some love, eh? I was going to make some comment about what you were saying, but then thought I'd double-check the article to see if I had my facts straight ... the article wasn't helpful, so I'll button my lips. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 10:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

== Pronunciation of other candidates than Reiwa ==

Did you read the source attached to the sentence you contended? <br />{{cite web |title={{lang|ja|「令和」考案は中西進氏　古事記・日本書紀含め、3案が国書典拠}}|url=https://mainichi.jp/articles/20190402/k00/00m/040/360000c |language=ja |quote=政府が1日に有識者や閣僚らに提示した六つの新元号案は「令和」のほか、「英弘（えいこう）」「久化（きゅうか）」「広至（こうし）」「万和（ばんな）」「万保（ばんぽう）」だった}}.

See also <br />{{cite web |title=英弘、久化、広至、万和、万保＝政府提示の他５元号案判明 |date=April 2, 2019 |work=Jiji.com |url=https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2019040200256&g=pol |quote=新元号選定をめぐり、政府が有識者懇談会などに示した六つの原案のうち選ばれなかった五つは「英弘（えいこう）」「久化（きゅうか）」「広至（こうし）」「万和（ばんな）」「万保（ばんぽう）」と分かった}}.</span>

I don't think ''Japan Today'' and its source are reliable.―― ] (]) 10:06, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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I'm looking for a way to romanize this 3 web pages of N.O.M. 54 (jan 2003) about the video game ] => . Are you abble and have time to do this ? I writing the corresponding (], but I think this will be usefull for Misplaced Pages in English too.

I also asked this to ] and ].

Regards --] (]) 16:24, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
: Sorry—are you asking for a translation of the whole page? I'm not sure what you're asking me to do. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 21:48, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
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::Thanks for replying. I'm looking for the whole translation of the interview (3 pages), but if I understand as you react that it seems to be a big work for you, the page 2 where the sound progammers talking about they work , should be best interresting part to me.. Google translation and ohers are undrinkable. So, Page 2 if you can ? if you can't i understand, of course.
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==Request translations==
Please, if you have time, can you translate this pages from Japanese to English: ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]). Thank you very much. --] 09:35, 19 April 2019 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: Hmmm ... I actually enjoy doing translations, but the citations on these don't appear to meet the standards that the Egnlish Misplaced Pages require. If I find the time, maybe I'll look more closely and see what I can do ... ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 11:35, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
:: I see you've added some more ... Is there some reason you've chosen these articles? ]: are you looking for anything for one of those article-creation drives? ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 09:06, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
::: I'm very interested in these voices. I tried to translate them personally, but it's harder than I thought, and above all I don't have enough time. You would do me a big favor if you could help me. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:25, 20 April 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::: I'll keep looking to see if I can do any of them, but I can't just translate them. If they don't have proper sourcing as per ], they will be deleted on English Misplaced Pages. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 09:42, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
::::: Thank you very much! If they don't have proper sourcing, you can search them in other internet sites. --] 09:50, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
::::::I'm hoping to win WAM this year, without having an asterisk that technically I didn't get the most points, but that the guy who did copy-pasted many if not most of his articles. So I'm saving my energy for that; and also fixing the Manyoshu articles as penance for not having done so ''before'' a bunch of popular news media started talking about it. TRM said ] can't be a featured list until all the poets have their own articles, so that's got me pretty occupied any time I'm in an article-writing mood. ] (<small>]]</small>) 15:21, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
:::::::I help you with some proper sources: Koyata Yamamoto (http://www.vggallery.com/painting/p_0459.htm). --] 10:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::::::: Unfortunately, those aren't the kind of sources that are acceptable at English Misplaced Pages. Please see ]. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 00:46, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
::::::::: Then I left these translations to you, when you will have time and find proper sources. Please, don't forget it, if you can. --] 16:01, 23 April 2019 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Japanese honorifics==
Please, can you help me with ]? Thank you. --] 06:25, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

==Rikidōzan==
Please, can you edit one of these photos about Katsushi Murata, his murderer, in the paragraph "Death": (), , (). Thank you. --] 17:23, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
: I can add the first one, because it was published by an organization more than 50 years ago. The other two photos are still under copyright, though. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 22:54, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
:: Thank you, but can you edit also the journal article which is in that same site? There is also ], if you can help me. --] 07:01, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

==Giant Baba family==
There are these photos about his family if you can edit: , , , . --] 07:41, 14 May 2019 (UTC)


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== Canadian Politics Arbitration Case ==
==Your edits at Ran==
That was quite a sequence of edits on the film Ran which you did. Any interest on your part to possibly review it if I do the GA nomination. ] (]) 02:49, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
* ]: I could maybe go over the text, but I doubt I could work up the motivation to do a proper GAN review. A couple things: the plot synopsis is really long. ] calls for a synopsis of between 400 and 700 words or readable prose—the current one is 1050 words. Another thing is that there are still a lot of unsourced statements—it'll never pass GAN with unsourced statements (except for the plot). Another: I don't know how best to handle this, but I don't think it's a good idea to gloss 乱 as "chaos", partly because the title is obviously supposed to have multiple meanings ("chaos" as well as "war"/"rebellion"). ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 03:53, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


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== ] ==
Hi Curly, I just wanted to offer a quick apology for edit. I was moving too fast and misclicked the rollback button, I undid it but with errors like that I'd prefer to apologize personally. Best wishes.--''''']''''' ''']''' 08:58, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Please, can you create ]? Thank you. --] 08:31, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
: ]—don't worry about it. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 09:36, 2 February 2018 (UTC)


== So, that happened... ==
== ] ==


Trump gave a about the imperial household and the ''Man'yōshū'' and Reiwa and Tabito and Okura. Pretty hilarious by itself to think that anyone would think it was Trump's own words coming out of his mouth. But what's even more interesting is that he ''didn't'' repeat the same "oldest poetry anthology" error that appears on Abe's English website and every English-language media outlet that has discussed the issue over the last few months (except the English version of the ''Mainichi''{{'}}s website). I guess someone on Trump's team checked English Misplaced Pages (specifically ) and noticed the mistake, and changed it to the extremely 意訳ish {{tq|''a collection of ancient Japanese poetry called the Man'yōshū''}}. The apostrophe and the macrons really look like someone checked English Misplaced Pages, unless the Trump White House includes someone with a grounding in the writings of ] and ], and the fact that "Japan's oldest " has been so ubiquitous as a translation of the phrase "日本最古の歌集" makes me really want to believe that Trump was told by Abe through an interpreter that the source of the name "Reiwa" is "Japan's oldest poetry anthology", Trump's speech was drafted to include that, and someone looked on Misplaced Pages during the drafting.
Hey! I saw that you edited the article '']'' and thought maybe you would be interested in this ]?-]<span style="background-color:#ff0000; color: #e8ff00"> (])</span> 12:01, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
* Heh! Actually, I only watched the one episode after reading about parallels with the new system going in in China. Maybe someday! ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 22:53, 2 February 2018 (UTC)


Now, I wonder how the South Korean (and North Korean) governments will react to Trump having shoehorned in a reference to ] and ''not'' mentioning his being a likely immigrant from Paekche. That seems really like something someone on the Abe side got Trump to say and no one on the American side knew enough to see the problem. Then again, it's entirely possible I'm literally the only person to notice this who wasn't directly involved.
== ] ==


If you want the page to be removed, ask for it.] (]) 11:52, 6 February 2018 (UTC) ] (<small>]]</small>) 15:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
* It's being linked to from Japanese articles for a historical figure named Tamahime, so there should likely be an article for it—but it shouldn't be redirecting to a film with a different title. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 11:54, 6 February 2018 (UTC) : I sure wouldn't have noticed. I wanted to hear the speech to hear how Trump would trip over pronouncing ''Man'yōshū'', but all I could find is which cuts out before those sections (assuming he gave the whole speech). ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 06:25, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
:: ] (<small>]]</small>) 06:53, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
::: サンキュー Don't have to worry about the Koreans—he talks about "Yamanoue no Ok'''o'''ra", so nobody's gonna notice. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 08:02, 29 May 2019 (UTC)


== Not sure what to make of this ==
== O Canada! ==


I don't think I've ever conflicted with a user who was trying to set themselves up as a good-faith Wikipedian whose goals were in line with the project, who immediately after failing to get me site-banned posted a bunch of dog-whistles about "those sneaky Japs" on their user page. Obviously a lot of editors I've conflicted with have assumed I was secretly Japanese despite my relatively much better English than Japanese ability and the clear statement on my user page, but this is a step or two further, and those guys were usually using throwaway sock accounts to do that. ] (<small>]]</small>) 02:18, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
All these politically-motivated changes to the national anthem are getting under my skin. We should go back to Weir's original translation—gender-neutral and secular:
: Well, I don't know your history with the user, but I've noticed there's a breed of American that likes to whip out Pearl Harbour at every opportunity—plenty of such folk were calling 東日本大震災 "payback for Pearl Harbour". ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 03:25, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
::Well, I had seen no indication that he was one of those guys despite combing a bunch of his edits for copyvio. Basically after I opened a CCI on him he opened an ANI on me, and a bunch of folks showed up to essentially say "Yeah, Hijiri88 is very much in the right in this case, so let's just put the OP under more scrutiny for copyvio, and not indef him for harassment" (some people who didn't know me said "Let's indef the OP for copyvio"). After a couple of days I decided I'd had enough and went on break, after which point the thread was closed. Once I came back to Misplaced Pages yesterday, suddenly the offending editor was posting anti-Japanese propaganda on his user page, and citing the 75th anniversary of ] (!?) as an excuse. I'm not sure if he thinks I won't notice, or if the mere fact of my having noticed is gonna be trumped up by him as further evidence of my "hounding him" -- it would do him great if he could point to anti-Japanese edits he made ''before'' his first interaction with me, but otherwise it just looks like he's posting racist dog-whistles on his user page specifically for my attention, which is the opposite of me hounding him. ] (<small>]]</small>) 03:46, 4 June 2019 (UTC)


== HOUND ==
:O Canada! Our home and native land!
:True patriot love thou dost in us command.
:We see thee rising fair, dear land,
:The True North, strong and free;
:And stand on guard, O Canada,
:We stand on guard for thee.
:O Canada! O Canada!
:O Canada! We stand on guard for thee.
:O Canada! We stand on guard for thee.


Posting this here because, while I'm not afraid to point it out in public, I'm worried that posting a "we really don't need to listen to this guy, since he's here for tendentious and highly hypocritical reasons" directly on ] would be tagged as "inappropriate use of a policy talk page" even though it's clearly on-topic and relevant. I dunno ... if you or ] or ] agree with me then I wouldn't need to be the one to point it out.
... although cramming the three-syllable ''pa-tri-ot'' into two still sticks in my craw. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 08:13, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


I'm just going to point out that despite claiming HARASS is the most important Misplaced Pages policy excepting possibly NPA, Snow Rise has never edited this page before posting , and is in fact one of the editors who has repeatedly asserted that when I monitor the edits of disruptive editors like the above-mentioned 11-character editor it qualifies as hounding, and was himself personally responsible for much of the difficulty in handling the problematic editors. His opinion on who is in the right never seems to change no matter how many of the users I was "hounding" ultimately get sitebanned. How did he notice this discussion, why does he show up every time I am accused of "hounding" a problematic editor (including attempting to rewrite a clear statement by ArbCom in order to rehash hounding accusations he had made three years earlier), and do you think he realizes the irony of ''him'' repeatedly accusing ''me'' of hounding?
== Suddenly steamrolled AFDs? ==


] (<small>]]</small>) 13:33, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Hey, I was looking back at the contribs of one of my alt-accounts for reasons just now, and remembered ] for the first time in a long time; it was 3-1 in favour of deletion for almost a full week, and then within a single day five more people suddenly showed up and all !voted to keep and a non-admin closes it having clearly not read the discussion (one of the unambiguous delete !votes became a "maybe" and another was completely ignored, and the timing made it anything but ]). And this was apparently the result of ] that was at least in that case used for the specific purpose of canvassing keep !votes in AFDs: I don't recall ever encountering them again, but the project doesn't seem to have been formally retired, so if it still serves that function it really seems like a problem.
: I don't know why you should post here about it ... but it did raise my eyebrows when I saw SR post that there. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 20:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
:: Your ping for "CorbieV" should have been for ]. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 20:46, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
:::Well, I had posted there like a week ago with no word, but then I posted a description of one of the many incidents that inspired my view on the matter (the correct view, sanctioned by ArbCom, and pretty much everyone else who is not themselves a tendentious editor), pinged you, you commented, and suddenly SR became interested. Not sure if that was relevant, but you do have something of a history of agreeing with me when I accuse "the editors I was hounding" of in fact hounding me. (Emailing the diff, since that ''is'' something I'm "afraid to point out in public" because it would give the appearance of gravedancing.) ] (<small>]]</small>) 22:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)


== Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion ==
This reminded me a bit of what happened at ]; the latter obviously shouldn't be re-opened given the great work you, Nish and others did to fix the article (at least to the point that ] no longer applies), but I'm really wondering about ]. Apparently no one has done any work in the last five years to fix its problems or demonstrate how it is not a dictionary entry combined with a puff piece to promote a social programme, and I'm really not convinced the original deletion rationales don't apply (and the close was way out of line).
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== Malcolm X page ==
] (<small>]]</small>) 11:50, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
: Yeesh—I remember when I first came to Japan, it was going around that "there's no word for ''mottainai'' in English" ... do people still believe that? It's a meme I haven't heard since the 20th century, anyways. Scanning the article, it looks like horseshit to me, but that's problably mostly the fault of the sources. It'll survive another AfD unless you can be really convincing that the sources themselves are full of shit.
: I didn't do any "great work" on the "Korean influence" article—I just did a lot of copyediting. I doubt I ever looked at any of the sources. I was less aware of how bad the nationalists could get with articles like this—I definitely think there should be an article on the topic (in an ideal world), but had no idea what a headache maintenance of it would be.
: I lean pretty "inclusionist", even with the bullshit it brings. I might make an exception for political articles—they're all hopeless timesinks. Nuke 'em all. Misplaced Pages's not the place to inform yourself on the Israel–Palestine conflict. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 12:09, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
::The night is dark and full of terrors. And terrible shocks. As in ... wow: I nominated an article for deletion five years ago under a sock account I had forgotten about, the AFD was steamrolled due to inappropriate canvassing on a forum that was dedicated to such inappropriate canvassing (which I don't remember noticing at the time) and ''is still active'', and then when I consider asking our most prominent deletionist (whom I'd defended in a bunch of "This user nominated my article for deletion; they should be blocked" ANI threads) if they're familiar with the problem, I find out that ] for undisclosed socking going back the better part of a decade. I mean -- what!? The whole world has gone topsy-turvy. Is this '']''? I'm going to go ] now. ] (<small>]]</small>) 12:38, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
:::Sorry. Our '']'' article is garbage, but I didn't know that, and I figured linking it would make the meaning of my reference clear. Basically, Peter decides to be crucified upside-down because Adam entered the world head-first, and since Adam's day Sin has been in the world and turned everything on its head, so only by being upside-down can Peter see everything as it is meant to be. Or something along those lines. ] (<small>]]</small>) 12:43, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
:::: I can't figure out who the sock is ... ?
:::: You won't get the article deleted, even if it is pure bull. It even cites a that flatly claims "The word “mottainai” is a part of the Japanese religious and cultural heritage" (even if that has zero to do with the word's contemporary, everyday usage). The idea that it's "a cultural practice" is hard to swallow, but—it's "sourced"! ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 23:42, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::Sorry, my latter two comments above had nothing to do with the ''mottainai'' article. In fact my first comment above was about weird AFD closures, where there is a clear consensus to delete, until a whole bunch of people suddenly show up and !vote keep, and only then is the discussion closed (by a non-admin who clearly should never close AFDs where the result is anything other than SNOW keep).
:::::Anyway, ''Daijirin'' implies the term has a (basically unrelated) Shintoist (not Buddhist) sense that means defiling a sacred space or object, but honestly for all I know (for all ''Daijirin'' tells me since it doesn't actually mention Shinto) that's actually a ''Jewish'' sense that was used in early Japanese bible translations, since Leviticus and Numbers are full of that stuff. And then we get into the whole "Ancient Israelite religion and Japanese Shinto both have ritual impurity concepts; the Japanese ]" mess...
:::::The sock is {{user|SwisterTwister}}, and I was really surprised and awed at what had happened there, since ST had been a mainstay of the community (particularly AFDs and the various ANI threads people started about him as a result) for years and had a basically clean block log. My having discovered this within an hour or so of my discovering the ARS was really shaking me (to the point where I actually lost sleep; in order to get an extra thirty minutes in bed this morning I had to grab an 朝マクド on the way to work).
:::::] (<small>]]</small>) 01:09, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::: ]—!!!—I see so many MoS fixes I desparately want to make in this article, but ... but ... I don't want my name showing up in the edit history ... ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 01:48, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::::You're right to be careful. I just Googled my own username and found out that as having once made some minor edit to an article on the alt-right, and another on a ''Twilight'' film (?), I am now being credited as one of the co-authors of "books" on those topics. I'd hate to think about people who edit under their real names... ] (<small>]]</small>) 06:08, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, I could see how my assertion that I'm on your talk at all is merely because of my interest in how things actually are done here might be taken with some skepticism, but I have to say this made my blood run cold. I hope you don't mind me asking, how prevalent would you say this kind of thing is? Am I just being naive here? What the actual fuck? ] (]) 02:10, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::: There are companies out there that put on print-on-demand books of Misplaced Pages content. They come up in Google Books all the time: They sell them on Amazon, etc. It's all totally legal and everything, as long as they credit the contributors. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 02:21, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::Thanks for the reply, ok, wow. Did I accidentally choose a 'safe' username because the top hundred hits are always going to be about literature? I guess I had a vague implicit idea of printing articles out, with the, yeah, naive notion that it was a small scale thing, mostly used by educators. But damn I should've known there'd be an industry mining it for filthy lucre, why not? It just has terrifying implications. Uh, has it ever ended up in a situation where mass puppets show up, rewrite articles, and then go to press with something that blatantly violates what the community is working towards? This is why I shamelessly scan people's talk pages. ] (]) 02:50, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::: I haven't heard of it, but I'd be surprised if it never happened. And you'd still get your name listed as a contributor to such filth! ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 02:58, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::{{re|Curly Turkey}} If it was something you were interested in, you could email me the gist of the non-controversial fixes you want made and when I had time I could go in and take care of it? I hope that's not out of line in any way. ] (]) 19:23, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::: Sorry, but what do you mean? Fixes to what? ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 21:31, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::: Oh, my bad. I meant like the MOS stuff at ] and similar. I've found that I really enjoy sweeping the dust bunnies out of dark corners. ], even. This is one of the strangest things I've ever involved myself with and I want to see where it goes. ] (]) 03:56, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::::: Oh! I was just exaggerating about that—I'm not actually afraid anything would happen to me. I just find that kind of article ... icky ...
::::::::::::::: It looks like someone named ] just yesterday that I would've, anyways. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 04:09, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::: HA! Ok that's fair, I've been noticing that I'm pretty thickheaded about humor, exaggeration, and low-key irony here. It's my first real attempt at online communication since I was a teenager and that's definitely part of my learning curve. You've been really helpful, if you have a few spare moments, would you mind taking a look at this ] I made to help onboarding people at this art+feminism wikithon signup I'm working on Saturday? I'd really appreciate any comments. ] (]) 04:26, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::: It looks fine at first glance, but did you mean for "Misplaced Pages Manual of Style" to link to ] rather than ]? ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 04:32, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::: I absolutely did. I was relying on the base MOS for a while and then I found that table of contents and that is exactly what I needed, neatly categorized. Whoever built that needs some praise. ] (]) 04:34, 23 February 2018 (UTC) PS: What's the trick to make this wrap back around to the left when we are creeping off the page like this? PPS: I guess my keyboard makes a nonstandard hyphen? There must be a way to fix that right?
{{od}} You can use {{tl|od}} ("outdent"). Your keyboard makes a standard hyphen, but what you're looking for is an '']'' (see ]). It's pretty hairsplitting, especially outside of article space—feel free to revert it if you don't like it. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 04:59, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
: That is an hairsplittingly strange issue, but I get it. My gut instinct is always to standardize something that seemingly minor, hence the PS. Thanks for the wrapping trick! ] (]) 05:32, 23 February 2018 (UTC) Although, now that I'm looking at it, it made this all less readable...
:::::::::::: This just went in my pocket as a very compelling argument for me to get people into editing. It's, uh, just alot more <i>actually</i> important that most of the internet. Thanks. ] (]) 03:15, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::{{re|Gabriel syme}} The worst part, though, is that under Misplaced Pages's free license (the same one that allows those books to be published), if someone plagiarizes text and adds it to an article, they are essentially releasing someone else's copyrighted material for anyone to reprint free of charge. This is super-serious and is the main reason COPYVIO text and images need to be deleted and removed from public view, and why it's really concerning that even "long-time editor " don't "get" it. Checking that shit is extremely tedious work, and doing it without the prior consent of either the community or ArbCom essentially leaves one open to being accused of "hounding". Regardless of the . I'd be willing to bet that well over 70% of "hounding" accusations are either (a) hypocritical attacks made by bonafide hounds or (b) attempts to shoot down scrutiny on counter-policy actions by either the counter-policy editors or teir friends. ] (<small>]]</small>) 04:24, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Repinging ]. ] (<small>]]</small>) 04:25, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::::{{re|Hijiri88}} Well, yeah, that looks like one of the most frustrating tasks imaginable. I guess I never put much critical thought into the potential for abuse represented by the tools, license, and policy here. That might be an area I'd be interested in once I've gotten a solid handle on things and have more time to devote. As far as hounding, wow, I really could have used that diff a few months back. I'll admit I might have been letting myself be baited but the editor was just obnoxiously following me to multiple areas they'd never touched. Thanks for the reply. ] (]) 19:19, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::::: !!! ... now I'm going to have to try that ... I did once come across a quote from my ] article in a book. Not "one of those 'books{{'"}}, but an actual book. That felt good! ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 06:11, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::: ... and the first one that comes up is ''Death Conspiracy Theories''. What in the flying fuck did I edit! ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 06:12, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::...I also noticed some Redditor expressing sympathy for a certain banned editor's (not Til Eulenspiegel's) remarks comparing me to a Nazi, based on during which I made the mistake of fixing some links in an article on a neo-Nazi website roughly a week after I made a bunch of edits to Norse mythology articles and articles on characters in the novels of R. A. Salvatore (with names like "Wulfgar") back in 2005. ] (<small>]]</small>) 06:59, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::: Were you editing any child porn articles that week? If not, you'll just have to try harder to discredit yourself next time. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 07:06, 13 February 2018 (UTC)


Hello,
== "Show Preview" button ==


I was wondering if you could insert this Malcolm X quote somewhere on his Misplaced Pages page
Without wanting to be pedantic, and it's likely that you are already fully aware of this, but for the sake of those who check diffs, it would make a "diff" if the number of changes to any given section that appear in the article history and on our watchlists could be minimized....I try to remember to use the "Show Preview" button until I am sure that the changes are what I want. For example, your group of 21 edits to ] would have appeared as 10-11 edits instead, much easier to look through. I have sinned against this myself often enough, and it is just a suggestion... ]<sup>]</sup> 00:31, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
* ]: I understand, but I often make these edits while I'm between real-life tasks—when I'm called away, I save whatever I happen to have finished. Notice that the edits were made over a two-hour period. But something else to keep in mind (in my experience) is that large numbers of changes in a single edit make for a mess when one needs to revert a small number of the changes, and for this reason I've advised people in the past to break up large edits into smaller chunks. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 00:37, 12 February 2018 (UTC)


"“The media’s the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that’s power. Because they control the minds of the masses. The press is so powerful in its image-making role, it can make the criminal look like he’s a the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. This is the press, an irresponsible press. It will make the criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” ― Malcom X"
::OK, good points. ]<sup>]</sup> 01:38, 12 February 2018 (UTC)


== ANIの本音 ==


Here is the source. It's the second quote from the top. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/search?q=%E2%80%9CThe+media%27s+the+most+powerful+entity+on+earth.+They+have+the+power+to+make+the+innocent+guilty+and+to+make+the+guilty+innocent%2C+and+that%27s+power.+Because+they+control+the+minds+of+the+masses.%E2%80%25
And here is one of the biggest problems with ANI—so many participants don't actually give two shits if someone's contributing to a problem, they just want drahmah and lots-o'-blocks. Meanwhile, we've got editors who spend ''years'' disrupting both article space and talk-page discussions that ANI time and time again refuses to deal with ... ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 06:52, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


== BRD ==


Wait for consensus to form. There's no timeline. ] (]) 07:34, 22 February 2018 (UTC) Thank you. ] (]) 16:52, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
* You're fucking incredible. You reverted ''in the middle of a fucking discussion''. You should be blocked for that alone. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 10:22, 22 February 2018 (UTC) : In what context? And why ask me? ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 21:21, 14 June 2019 (UTC)


== Canadian Politics Proposed Decision - Postponed ==
== Revert needed ==


This message is to inform you that the proposed decision for the Canadian Politics Arbitration Case has been postponed to June <s>21</s> 28, 2019. For the Arbitration Committee --] <sup>] </sup> 16:45, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi, will you revert please? I'm out of reverts. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 23:02, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
* Done, and I threw a {{tl|Not a typo}} on it. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 23:09, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
** Oh, and just so you know, I'm keeping the article '''off''' my watchlist, because it's so active it eats up too much of my watchlist. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 23:10, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
***Thanks for the revert. I considered creating a redirect for that template, ], which would obviate much of the need for the hidden comment. I think the lower case would be easily missed by gnomes. &#8213;]&nbsp;] 23:24, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
**** Do you use the Visual Editor (or whatever it's called)? I don't, and I was wondering how (or if) {{tld|Not a typo}} displays for editors who use it. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 23:27, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
*****Never touched Visual Editor. We don't need no stinking Visual Editor. {{smiley}} &#8213;]&nbsp;] 23:29, 23 February 2018 (UTC)


== Similar names == == ] ==


Funny: the Poetry Foundation as a source came up in my Misplaced Pages class last week. Students were using it, and I explained that IMO their pages can be used to verify basic, factual information, but not statements like the one in the Rilke article (I'll use that as an example Monday). If the page listed an author, and if sources were provided, it might be a different thing--but saying "according to the Poetry Foundation..." will not do here, of course. We just need to cut that entire sentence, I think. Thanks, ] (]) 14:48, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
I've been rewriting our article on ], with my main source being an article by Hiroko Saito. Thing is, the previous version was apparently (it had no inline citations) based on writings by Hiroaki Sato and Earl Miner, Hiroko Odagiri. Nothing really important for the project; I just thought it was an amusing coincidence. :P ] (<small>]]</small>) 11:01, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
: I've come across worse—articles that have confused people because they have the same romanized name. I came across that at ]—her father's name is Takashi Narita (成田 隆史), which linked to Takashi Narita (成田 貴志)—and (probably through ]), I came across an English-language article stating here father was an Olympic volleyball player.
: I thought her story was interesting enough to give it a decent expansion, but almost all the sources I came across were (perhaps unsurprisingly) tabloid trash I couldn't bring myself to cite. If she continues to win championships, I might come across better sources. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 11:09, 25 February 2018 (UTC)


== Arbitration proposed decision posted ==
=== Might as well post this here ===
I really wish that talk page wasn't such a hot bed at the moment and we could engage in friendly if slightly off-topic banter freely. Anyway...


A ] has been posted in the ]. Please review this decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the ]. The ] may also be helpful. For the Arbitration Committee, ''']''' (<small>aka</small> ]&nbsp;'''·'''&#32; ]&nbsp;'''·'''&#32; ]) 06:20, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
{{tq|''one could argue it's not even particularly Japanese''}} This reminded me of a humorous Facebook post an American friend of mine once made having just bought a box ("tube"?) of cookies in a ''konbini''; inside the box was a plastic wrapper; when he opened the wrapper, each cookie was ''individually wrapped''; and this wasn't even the kind of ''omiyage'' where they were meant to be distributed to coworkers and left on the desks of absentees, but a snack suitable for one or at most two people. "Japan has a unique aversion to wastefulness" is like "Japan has a unique tendency to take train schedules with a pinch of salt" in terms of its hilarious anachronism.


== Suitability of ] for FAC ==
] (<small>]]</small>) 12:06, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
: {{Smiley|wink}} when I first came here (in 1998), when I'd go to a ''konbini'' and buy a single item for immediate consumption, when they'd start putting it in a bag, I'd tell them I didn't want the bag. The clerk would always look so flustered—they had ''no idea'' how to deal with ''not putting the item in a bag''! We've come a long way from there to today, where every supermarket now charges for plastic bags and encourages people to bring their own ''mai bakku''.
: With that in mind, I was schocked—''shocked''—to discover a few years ago that Canada—''Canada'', the pioneer in ]—was the world's leader in waste per capita. I don't know if it's that Canada has changed, but it sure ''felt'' like Japan was far more wasteful when I first moved here, with its double- and triple-wrapped ''everything'' and tendency to a strong preference to new ''everything'' over used ''anything'' (a lot fewer pawn shops and older cars on the roads). ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 12:18, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


Hi Curly Turkey. I brought ] to good article status a few months ago, and I am now considering nominating it for featured article status. Would you be willing to take a look over the article and give your opinion on how it would fare at FAC? Although you aren't listed at ], I wanted to ask you since you have brought several silent film articles to featured status. Thanks in advance. – ] (]) 21:15, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
== Putative non-count nouns ==
: ]: It's not a subject I know much about, so I can't speak to its comprehensiveness. The writing seems fine—I made some very minor, mostly insubstantial edits that you can feel free to revert, but the quality of writing would not have been an issue at FAC. If it were me, I'd add some very brief contextualizing both the novel (publication and reputation?) and Bunny (birth, length and character of career?). ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 21:56, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks for reading through the article. A quick question re : Wouldn't the period remain inside the nested quotes to preserve the original quotation? I agree that some additional context may be helpful; the question is where to put it, however. Would material about Bunny's career fit in the production section? Would a sentence or two about the novel's publication details fit in the plot section? I'll put the article aside and re-evaluate its potential for expansion in a few weeks. I don't want to rush things since I haven't nominated a FA before. :) In any case, I'll probably reach out to one of the editors at ] for a more in-depth review before taking the plunge. – ] (]) 22:46, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
::: No, we don't preserve outside house styles on Misplaced Pages. We would only do so if there were some significance to doing so (say, to compare stylings, or to demonstrate something).
::: As for where to put the context: you could have a short "Background" section, or, as you say, you could say something in the plot summary. Say, something along the lines of "''The Pickwick Papers'' appeared in 1836 and was Charles Dickens first novel; . The film adapts only three ...".
::: To be honest, unless a subject expert were to point out some gaping flaw or oversight, I wouldn't be surprised to see it promoted pretty much as is. There might be some technical details you could add—length and gauge of film? Is it known what cameras or other equipment was used? Filmic techniques or whatever?
::: Looking a bit more closely, I can see a brief history in th esecond endnote about previous ''Pickwick'' adaptations. YOu could move that into a background section—start with the novel's publication and legacy, move onto film adaptations, and conclude with a capsule history of Bunny's career. Maybe two brief paragraphs. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 23:23, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
::::A separate background section seems like the way to go. I didn't think there was enough material for one when I was first writing the article, but if I include more info on Bunny's career, as you suggest, a stand-alone section would fit effectively into the structure of the article. One paragraph on Bunny and his earlier work with Vitagraph, plus a paragraph on Dickens's original novel and its earlier film adaptations, would definitely make the article easier to understand for readers unfamiliar with the subject. This would also resolve the issue of having such a bulky footnote on previous adaptations of ''Pickwick''.{{paragraph break}}I feel confident about the article's comprehensiveness. Gill cites one article (from the ''Chatham News'' if I'm remembering correctly) that I wasn't able to track down with an interlibrary loan request. Other than that, I've tracked down all the cross-references from the sources I've cited. Unless I've missed something major in my research, our article is the most comprehensive account of ''The Pickwick Papers'' yet written.{{paragraph break}}Regarding the technical details you asked about, the British Film Institute that the film gauge is 35mm and that the length is 2079 ft. (The BFI only has two out of the three reels, however; we could extrapolate that the full length is ~3,000 ft., but that would be original research.) Sources appear to be silent on the equipment and filmic techniques employed in the film's production. The sources that go into the most detail about production—the two ''Moving Picture World'' articles by Hoffman—focus more on Bunny and the crew (e.g., their attempt to borrow a historic cab from the British Museum) rather than the technical details of filming. The best I could tell you in this regard is that the crew consisted of ], the director, and one camera operator. – ] (]) 01:10, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
::::: Before I comment further, I just want to reiterate that, despite the number of film FAs I've produced, I'm not a film buff, and have relied on reviewers to spot technical and contextual issues. I don't know how necessary, useful, or helpful the tech information is, but it seems to be a popular thing to include when available. If you include it, I'd word it something like "the copies in the BFINA are 2079 ft". We don't know th elength of the other reel, so leave it to the reader to speculate. Unless you have a source explicitly stating so, we don't know if the 2079 ft is even the full length: '']'', for instance, is missing at least one sequence, which was discovered only because of the discovery of unicorporated "cels"—if they hadn't been discovered, you would never guess anything was missing.
::::: Or, you could just leave it out, unless a reviewer requests it. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 04:27, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::I'm late in replying, but I just want to thank you for taking time to look over the article even though you were going through a contentious on-wiki disagreement. I appreciate your feedback, which has helped clarify my thinking on how to improve the article. – ] (]) 21:02, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::I don't know if you care at this point, but just to follow up to the above: I think I'll leave out the technical information on the film reels for now. Simply specifying the number of reels (and that one of them is a split reel) should be enough for most readers. If another reviewer thinks the technical info is valuable, it'll be easy to add. – ] (]) 21:25, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


== ] closed ==
You posted in more than one place the claim that ''anime'' and ''manga'' have no (distinct) plural forms, because they are non-count nouns, not because they are Japanese words. Strictly speaking, I think, this is a non-sequitur, because non-count nouns still have plural forms: "milks", "cheeses", and so on. I do not believe there exists a non-count noun which cannot be plural. Even putting that aside, I realise I have no experience of the real use of ''anime'' or ''manga'' in English. I suppose I regard them mostly as genres, in which case they are uncountable, but given a マンガ本, does one not say "There's a manga"... in which case "There's another one" means that there are two manga(s), and this is definitely not a non-count usage.
An arbitration case regarding Canadian politics has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
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For the Arbitration Committee, ]] 03:46, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your work on ''Mottainai''; I wil try to look at it some time. The grammatical description has been cleaned up, but it could simple describe the word as an adjective, and point out that (like any other adjective) it can be used attributively or predicatively, and automatically forms a free-standing exclamation. But it's difficult to know how to approach this: what does "adjective" mean, for example: there are any number of different sets of terminology, and I have a (real, smelly-paper) book that includes the claim that "Japanese has no adjectives". ] (]) 07:49, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
: Discuss this at: ''']'''<!-- ] (]) 03:47, 6 July 2019 (UTC) --><!--Template:hes-->
: ]: People say "There's a manga"/"There's an anime"? Maybe usage has evolved, but I'm not familiar with it. Do people who say "There's a manga" say "There are two manga"? "There are two anime"? If they do, this is far too recent usage to be used as an example like ''geisha'' or ''ninja'' (which are very well established).
: "I do not believe there exists a non-count noun which cannot be plural."—''economics'', ''politics'', etc.
: Re: ''Mottainai'': I find every book I come across uses different terms for Japanese grammar (in English, anyways). I don't think we need to go into much detail on the grammatical usage, since it's not a linguistics article. I wouldn't do more than link to ]. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 11:04, 2 March 2018 (UTC)


== Reading Kafka ==
== French : Maus is now a good article ==
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== Railroaded ==
Hello Curly Turkey,<br>
I've seen you're interested in '']''. With the help from other French Wikipedians, the article is now a GA in French (]). I thought you'd like the news. <br>
Regards, --] <sup>]]</sup> 23:38, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
* Hey, that's great! ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 00:13, 11 March 2018 (UTC)


Curly,
== A cup of tea for you! ==
I hope you read this, IMHO, you got railroaded by the arbs, I mean , in one section they say:

<b>Edit warring: cite check

3) On April 12, Curly Turkey added a {cite check} template to the article and began 'scrubbing' the page for sourcing problems he perceived on the page. Over the following days, he edit warred with multiple other editors to keep the template on the page; it was removed for the final time by J. Johnson on April 17. During the edit war, Curly Turkey refused multiple requests on the talk page to explain the issues he was seeing with the sourcing (timeline by J. Johnson).
Passed 6 to 1 at 03:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)</b>

Huh? you explained in ''detail'' on the ''talk page'' what the problem was. Are they actually reading the talk page itself ?!?!

In another section they state:
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Curly Turkey and sources

7) Curly Turkey exhibited a black and white view of verifiability and text-to-reference integrity that crossed the line from reasonable concern for verifiability into tendentious editing. As a result of this strict interpretation, he insisted upon the removal or tagging of sources which other editors reasonably argued supported the preceding text. He refused to consider other editors' views on the matter aside from his own.
Passed 5 to 1 at 03:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
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WTF?!?!?! Sources ''are'' black or white, what's that bullshit? If the source says something and it's realiable, it can be used. If the source ''doesn't'' say something, we can't pretend that it does. They're flat out wrong!!

I think you got railroaded ala Fram and think you should appeal to a higher level than the arbs and get this reversed! ] (]) 13:28, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

== Less active ==

Hey Curly Turkey, I just saw that you are done for now. Yeah, me too; I have dropped way off. Too dramatic here. I still check in and make occasional edits sometimes, so I hope you do too. See you around. —]]<span style="color:red">♥</span> 04:32, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you today for ], "about the Alice Cooper band's breakthrough album, which took them from mere chicken-slaughtering infamy to pop superstardom—within two years they'd be rivaling Led Zeppelin in ticket sales, and would leave a lasting influence on punk, hard rock, and metal"! - To death: just received the call that a cousin died. Life is too short, miss her, and you. ]. I just wrote ]. --] (]) 08:35, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
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Just a ping, in case you're checking in from time to time. - Dank (]) 20:53, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

== Wrecking Crew article and FA ==

{{u|Curly Turkey}}, I know that you have been retired—I haven't been very active myself lately. But, I should start doing more here again. I thought I'd ask for your advice if you wouldn't mind. I know that you had advised me awhile back to seek FA on a shorter article, first, before I try to tackle something as large and difficult as the Garage rock article. I was thinking that ] article might be a good place to start. It is currently GA. I was wondering if you think it has good prospects for FA and, if so, what improvements it would need to get there.

Also, I want to thank you for all of the generous help you gave me. It meant so much. I am aware that you had some issues that prompted your decision to retire—this can be a very frustrating place sometimes. But, I also want to thank you for all you have done here. I can guarantee that your significant contributions are deeply appreciated by many and that you are greatly missed. ] (]) 04:09, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

== Wonderful! ==

Ran across your ] article; it's excellent! Sorry to see you're gone. --]&nbsp;<sup><small>]</small></sup> 00:14, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

== User:Curly Turkey/Cite comics ==

Hello Curly Turkey. Would you be agreeable to deleting ]? The reason I ask is that the "template" isn't used for anything real, and where it is used, it's causing lint errors including ] and ]. It hasn't been worked on in eight years. Can we either fix the lint errors or delete it? —] (]) 22:08, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

== Ukiyo-e ==

Heya - saw your edits over at ]. I wanted to let you know, as the editor who originally added those {{tl|transl}} tags, it's never been my objective to be "sloppy"; before I added them to the article, I think a number of instances of the word "ukiyo-e" had been italicised, and in the interests of caution, I made the decision to place all instances of the word in language tags.

I ought to have checked a dictionary to see if the word had become loanword enough not to need a language tag, and I'm sorry I got it wrong. However, I try my best to improve Misplaced Pages articles - including their ], and I try my best to raise awareness of this with other editors, as well. Rather than careless italicisation - and I myself have run into some instances of that recently, like reference tags with italics around them - I wanted to make it at least clear that I had the goal of accessibility in mind, and hedged my bets, if this makes sense.

I apologise; I'll be more cautious in the future. --] (]) 10:27, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

:As for the {{tl|Nihongo}} tags in the main body of the text - I'm pretty sure I added most of those in as well. Again, my goal wasn't to "clutter up" or "invade" the main body of the text, nor to "undo others' hard work" - it was merely bringing it in line with a number of other Japanese culture articles I've edited, wherein transliterated terms, their kanji and their translation are kept as one within the text within a single template.
: I apologise again - I know that foreign language terms can either be kept as footnotes or within the text. I simply did what I editorially thought to be best practice, based on my editing history and having never run into any issues containing Japanese language terms within the text before. -- ] (]) 10:36, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

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== Giant Baba and Rikidozan ==
I'm very sorry to ask you this, but can you translate from Japanese to English the six pages on this site about 's childhood. They're about his early life and I've search much to find them. You can write all in my talk page. Moreover, there are also more information about Rikidozan's family and early life that nobody had translate yet: , , . Thank you very much. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:22, 18 March 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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== Osaka Castle ==
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:::::: and are proof that you would've made the reverts regardless, so, no, it would not have
:::::: But you win your game, The Banner. You can fuck with people as you please, and the admins will even help you. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 20:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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::::::::: There was no "snark" until The Banner had thoroughly stonewalled the "discussion", so the root issue has nothing to do with language.
::::::::: {{em|"it's really hard to deal with the other editor "equally""}}: Who said anything about "equally"? How about "appropriately", so he doesn't think he can get away with this stuff again?
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Hey, given I'm increasingly surprised that ANI thread didn't lead to a block. I suspect it might have something to do with your pulling a Hijiri2015-style goof and getting drawn into extensive (TLDR) back-and-forths (I also noticed your ongoing ANI thread about another editor -- you seem to be in the right there as well, but I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to read through it). ] (<small>]]</small>) 12:03, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
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::Hit the nail on the head there. The worst part, though, is that guys like us who get suckered into it then ''look like'' we are the ones trying to filibuster the discussions (even if we were the ones who opened them). Our ''Doctor Who''-watching friend and a bunch of the comic book mafiosi are among those who seem to be quite expert at it. The weird part, though, is when they filibuster ''their own'' threads, apparently because they know they will get BOOMERANGed if the threads proceed as normal, they knew this ''in advance'', and only opened the ANI threads to intimidate whoever they are disputing with. ] (<small>]]</small>) 12:14, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
::: Bad enough with that shit, but I'd promised myself to stay away from political articles, and here I've gotten sucked in. And it's this POV-pushing-from-all-sides horseshit that convinced me to stay away in the first place. Political articles are hopeless, endless timesinks. Even the Momokuro shit is over politics! ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 12:23, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
::::You think the number 28 has any significance? I have no idea why was titled as it was. ] (<small>]]</small>) 12:47, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
::::: I doubt there's any significance, although apparently certain numbers have certain significance to Nazis or whatever (I doubt they actually counted them, though). ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 12:49, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
::::::If he was a fan of British classic sci-fi ] would have made sense (or if it was American classic sci-fi), but yeah, it might just be random. ] (<small>]]</small>) 12:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

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Overqualified?

Here's a first: my years of writing and reviewing FAs disqualifies me from making MoS fixes to articles owned by the "little people". Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:24, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

I wonder ...

... how long this will stay visible. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 07:00, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

What do you expect where not even flowers are welcome? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
SchroCat: What "poking"? Cassianto's telling an unprovoked lie about me. Seriously, what the fuck? And why now? When's the last time I even interacted with the guy? And why not delete his (actual) trolling of me while you're at it? These questions aren't rhetorical ...
... and what in the flying fuck are you accusing me of that would "backfire"?! What fucking game is this?! Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 08:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
I wonder what makes the difference between Percy Grainger and Psalm 149, protect one, but revert the other? Also the difference between Imogen Holst and her father. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:02, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
I don't give two shits about the Infobox Wars; I give many, many shits about the spreading of cowardly lies about me. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:11, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
...not a lie. But you keep telling yourself that. Cassianto 12:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Your "creative interpretation" doesn't even make sense in the context (tellingly, you don't even try). Neither does bringing it up out of the blue two years after the blocks expired. I'd've thought having successfully conned an admin into administering 20% of my blocks would've been revenge enough for calling you out, but apparently you intend to spread this lie until you're finally indeffed. That's some superhuman grudgeholding. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:38, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
"Calling out" for what? Be very careful, or I'll see to it that my 20% stake in your block log is increased. Cassianto 09:46, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
"Calling you out" for digging up every opportunity to keep your end of that discussion knee-deep in irrelevant ad hominems, of course. Resorting to laughably empty threats instead of retracting your lie only paints you as more the coward, terrified to own up to his missteps. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:08, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
As I think we've established, it wasn't a lie. Anyway, this is my last post conversing with you. I have better things to do, like going to watch some grass grow Cassianto 19:54, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
You haven't been "conversing" with anyone—you've been trolling and lying, and doing a piss-poor job of hiding it. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:27, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Of course, a troll'd troll poorly if they didn't deny everything, so I guess the only thing to do at this point is to keep this horseshit out in the open—sunlight as disinfectant. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:30, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Curly Turkey. You have new messages at Talk:Did Six Million Really Die?.
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Shearonink: Are you sure? I don't see anything, and it's not an area I normally edit. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:59, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
I ran into an IP-hopper/vandal who was deleting the phrase from the disambiguation line of the article & you had edited the article somewhat recently (lol maybe August of lAst year?) and I was wondering what the consensus about the phrase might be. That's all - an admin stepped in on the situation. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 05:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

2019


Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019

a time for thanks and praise

begin it with music and memories

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アケオメ！ Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:25, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Misplaced Pages, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? - Can you check out the last entry on my talk, for notabilty? Look for "Japanese". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:13, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Huh

Again I must ask, how is this guy not blocked yet?

I also don't recall any specific time in the past he's told me to stay off his talk page; he's blanked my comments a bunch of times with nonsense/sarcastic/degrading edit summaries, but the closest he came to was "Do not post on my talk page unless it is an actual discussion" -- hardly "specifically to stop posting to talk page ", and by telling me to "Cease immediately, else be faced with a report similar to those threaten and intimidate multiple other editors with" -- I don't even know what he's talking about, since it's been months since I "threatened" a single editor with such a report, and then not with the intent of "intimidating" like using legalistic language like "cease immediately". (And yes, I know he's almost certainly referring to this, in which I said dig your heels in, deny, and get blocked to prevent further damage to the project but there was also the critical context in which it was posted -- Seriously, take the hint here. I'm trying to help you, but you are digging yourself a hole that you're not going to be able to get out of. I'm begging you to .)

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January 2019

Please stop your disruptive editing.

If you continue to disrupt Misplaced Pages, you may be blocked from editing. DarkKnight2149 07:02, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Off topic arguing removed from WP:ANI

Hi. Please do not restore that content again. The thread was closed to stop you and the other editor arguing unproductively. Carrying on afterwards is not acceptable, hence its removal. Restore it again and I will block your account from editing for disruption. Regards, Fish+Karate 11:36, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Fish and karate: It's all going straight back up again tomorrow regardless, so you're not accomplishing anything but aggravating people with this behaviour. You still have the option to revert and hat, like I requested—unless threatening victims of harassment with blocks is more your style. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:47, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
As I said, restore it again and you will be blocked for disruption. Being very clear on an entirely avoidable consequence is not a threat. If you want to carry on arguing with another user, do it elsewhere. The thread was closed, this means "stop". I am sorry that you are a victim of harassment, or feel like you are; if you wish to report that harassment please do so, as I would hope it could be resolved. However, this does not exempt you from anything, including being expected to know when to drop the stick. You have been asked, and now have been told, to not post that content back again; that really should be the end of it. If you need it for an arbitration request, or whatever, the diffs are all in the page history. Fish+Karate 12:34, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Fish and karate: I requested you to hat it rather than obfuscate the record, and you responded with an immediate revert and threat to block, choosing the more aggressive of the options. And here you are reiterating the threat (twice in one post) when it's obvious I'm not about to revert it. Your heels are too firmly dug in to get my hopes up, but perhaps you'll reconsider your approach in the future. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 12:57, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
A re-revert, not a revert. If it's "obvious (you're) not about to revert it" then why say "It's all going straight back up again tomorrow regardless"? If I mistook your meaning there I do apologize. Fish+Karate 13:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
As in, it's all going straight back into the ANI report I promised, which I've now filed. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 14:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Which is fine, that's what ANI is for, no objection to that. Apologies again for mistaking your meaning - I was under the impression it meant you were going to re-post the content at the end of a closed thread, again. Fish+Karate 15:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

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Regarding Borodin and news from Moscow

In regard to this edit, I don't think it was The Moscow News at the time Borodin worked there. The sources I used referred to Moscow News, and the masthead from that period lacked the definite article. The name The Moscow News seems to have been adopted in one of the more recent incarnations of the paper. RGloucester — ☎ 06:36, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

RGloucester—if that's the case, then change it back. You'll probably want to slap a {{not a typo}} on it, and a hidden comment explaining why so someone else doesn't gnome it away again. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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Feeling a bit of an ego boost, but also apologetic

Within moments of the 令和 announcement, the BBC and multiple other English-language outlets had announced that 令 meant "order" or "command" (the clearly bogus implication that the two are different, and therefore that it means order in the sense 順番 or the like, aside, a 万葉集 Book V passage was clearly cited as the source, and in that context it definitely meant "good" or "auspicious"). The administration's intentions in choosing a character that to 99% of Japanese means "command" can be speculated on, I guess, but it just seemed sloppy to me; someone cited them in our article, I tagged the citation as not being the best, and shortly thereafter the BBC article had been partly amended, using the same words as my tag did. I'm definitely not the only one to notice that error, and I wasn't the first, but I imagine a lot of people were looking at Misplaced Pages to check these things.

All that said, a bunch of source's have mistakenly identified the 万葉集 as "Japan's oldest poetry anthology", apparently mirroring a mistranslation that appeared on the Kantei's website. I could have probably prevented some of that if I had done several days ago (or years ago when I first noticed that it was quite a common problem) what I just did now and added "It is not Japan's oldest poetry anthology" to the lead of our article.

It'll probably not be until the next era change (I kinda wish Japan would go back to the old system where eras change a lot more frequently than sovereigns) before my area of the encyclopedia gets that much attention.

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:48, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Have you been following the English coverage? It gets soooooo much shittier than all that. Check out how many sources translate 令 not only as "order" but "orderly" (!!!!!), so that they translate 令和 as "orderly peace" (!!!!!).
You appear to be aware that there's controversy in the press and amongst politicians over the name, and there really should be more in the article about it (for example, it's been brought up that the only other time in history 令 was proposed in a nengō was with 令徳, which was rejected as implying "徳川に命令する", so the concerns with the choice "really" meaning "command" are nothing new, and likely known when the choce was made).
The Man'yōshū article could sure use some love, eh? I was going to make some comment about what you were saying, but then thought I'd double-check the article to see if I had my facts straight ... the article wasn't helpful, so I'll button my lips. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Pronunciation of other candidates than Reiwa

Did you read the source attached to the sentence you contended?
"「令和」考案は中西進氏　古事記・日本書紀含め、3案が国書典拠" (in Japanese). 政府が1日に有識者や閣僚らに提示した六つの新元号案は「令和」のほか、「英弘（えいこう）」「久化（きゅうか）」「広至（こうし）」「万和（ばんな）」「万保（ばんぽう）」だった.

See also
"英弘、久化、広至、万和、万保＝政府提示の他５元号案判明". Jiji.com. April 2, 2019. 新元号選定をめぐり、政府が有識者懇談会などに示した六つの原案のうち選ばれなかった五つは「英弘（えいこう）」「久化（きゅうか）」「広至（こうし）」「万和（ばんな）」「万保（ばんぽう）」と分かった.

I don't think Japan Today and its source SoraNews24 are reliable.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:06, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Phoenix7777—Is NHK good enough for you? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 07:41, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Japan-English translation

Hello Curly Turkey

I'm looking for a way to romanize this 3 web pages of N.O.M. 54 (jan 2003) about the video game The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker => . Are you abble and have time to do this ? I writing the corresponding (page on Misplaced Pages in French, but I think this will be usefull for Misplaced Pages in English too.

I also asked this to Bueller 007 and Mr. Stradivarius.

Regards --Archimëa (talk) 16:24, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry—are you asking for a translation of the whole page? I'm not sure what you're asking me to do. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:48, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Hello
Thanks for replying. I'm looking for the whole translation of the interview (3 pages), but if I understand as you react that it seems to be a big work for you, the page 2 where the sound progammers talking about they work , should be best interresting part to me.. Google translation and ohers are undrinkable. So, Page 2 if you can ? if you can't i understand, of course.
Thanks for your help, anyway --Archimëa (talk) 10:32, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

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Request translations

Please, if you have time, can you translate this pages from Japanese to English: ja:烏丸家 (Karasumaru family), ja:山本顧彌太 (Koyata Yamamoto), ja:亀井重清 (Shigekiyo Kamei), ja:片岡常春 (Tsuneharu Kataoka), ja:伊勢義盛 (Yoshimori Ise), ja:駿河次郎 (Jirō Suruga), ja:鷲尾義久 (Washio Yoshihisa), ja:富樫泰家 (Yasuie Togashi), ja:村田勝志 (Katsushi Murata), ja:藤井恒久 (Tsunehisa Fujii), ja:宮根誠司 (Seiji Miyane), ja:諸國沙代子 (Sayoko Shokoku), ja:世界一受けたい授業 (THE MOST USEFUL SCHOOL IN THE WORLD), ja:にっぽん丸 (Nippon Maru (1990)), ja:馬場元子 (Motoko Baba), ja:生ハムと焼うどん (Nama Ham & Yaki Udon), ja:いず (巡視船・2代) (Izu (PL 31)), ja:かめりあ丸 (Camellia Maru), ja:京都府警察 (Kyoto Prefectural Police), ja:柳川次郎 (Jirō Yanagawa), ja:花形敬 (Kei Hanagata), ja:小林楠扶 (Kusuo Kobayashi), ja:毎朝新聞 (Maiasa Shinbun), ja:田中六助 (Rokusuke Tanaka), ja:角田久美子 (Kumiko Tsunoda), ja:安村直樹 (Naoki Yasumura), ja:三枝夕夏 (Yūka Saegusa), ja:少年ケニヤ (Shōnen Kenya), ja:チャンピオン太 (Champion Futoshi), ja:ジャイアント台風 (Giant Typhoon), ja:引田有美 (Yumi Hikita), ja:松岡巌鉄 (Gantetsu Matsuoka), ja:鈴木理子 (ホリプロ) (Riko Suzuki), ja:谷内里早 (Risa Taniuchi), ja:尾崎仁彦 (Kimihiko Ozaki), ja:アーサ米夏 (Aasa Maika), ja:吉村道明 (Michiaki Yoshimura), ja:沖識名 (Shikina Oki), ja:芳の里淳三 (Junzō Yoshinosato), ja:篠原光 (Hikaru Shinohara), ja:沖野ヨーコ (漫画家) (Yōko Okino), ja:徳住有香 (Yuka Tokuzumi). Thank you very much. --80.181.64.189 09:35, 19 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.181.64.189 (talk)

Hmmm ... I actually enjoy doing translations, but the citations on these don't appear to meet the standards that the Egnlish Misplaced Pages require. If I find the time, maybe I'll look more closely and see what I can do ... Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:35, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
I see you've added some more ... Is there some reason you've chosen these articles? Hijiri88: are you looking for anything for one of those article-creation drives? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:06, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
I'm very interested in these voices. I tried to translate them personally, but it's harder than I thought, and above all I don't have enough time. You would do me a big favor if you could help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.232.234.87 (talk) 09:25, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
I'll keep looking to see if I can do any of them, but I can't just translate them. If they don't have proper sourcing as per WP:RS, they will be deleted on English Misplaced Pages. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:42, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you very much! If they don't have proper sourcing, you can search them in other internet sites. --95.252.44.4 09:50, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
I'm hoping to win WAM this year, without having an asterisk that technically I didn't get the most points, but that the guy who did copy-pasted many if not most of his articles. So I'm saving my energy for that; and also fixing the Manyoshu articles as penance for not having done so before a bunch of popular news media started talking about it. TRM said List of Man'yōshū poets can't be a featured list until all the poets have their own articles, so that's got me pretty occupied any time I'm in an article-writing mood. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 15:21, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
I help you with some proper sources: Koyata Yamamoto (http://www.vggallery.com/painting/p_0459.htm). --87.4.239.94 10:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.4.239.94 (talk)
Unfortunately, those aren't the kind of sources that are acceptable at English Misplaced Pages. Please see WP:RS. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:46, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Then I left these translations to you, when you will have time and find proper sources. Please, don't forget it, if you can. --80.116.115.163 16:01, 23 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.116.115.163 (talk)

Japanese honorifics

Please, can you help me with this discussion? Thank you. --79.24.236.241 06:25, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Rikidōzan

Please, can you edit one of these photos about Katsushi Murata, his murderer, in the paragraph "Death": Identikit (site), Murata and his daughter, Katsushi Murata (site). Thank you. --82.48.216.50 17:23, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

I can add the first one, because it was published by an organization more than 50 years ago. The other two photos are still under copyright, though. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:54, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, but can you edit also the journal article which is in that same site? There is also this discussion, if you can help me. --79.16.239.68 07:01, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Giant Baba family

There are these photos about his family if you can edit: Shohei Baba and his parents, Shohei Baba and his mother (December 1968), Shohei Baba and his mother (colors), Journal photos. --79.16.239.68 07:41, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

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So, that happened...

Trump gave a speech about the imperial household and the Man'yōshū and Reiwa and Tabito and Okura. Pretty hilarious by itself to think that anyone would think it was Trump's own words coming out of his mouth. But what's even more interesting is that he didn't repeat the same "oldest poetry anthology" error that appears on Abe's English website and every English-language media outlet that has discussed the issue over the last few months (except the English version of the Mainichi's website). I guess someone on Trump's team checked English Misplaced Pages (specifically this text) and noticed the mistake, and changed it to the extremely 意訳ish a collection of ancient Japanese poetry called the Man'yōshū. The apostrophe and the macrons really look like someone checked English Misplaced Pages, unless the Trump White House includes someone with a grounding in the writings of Miller and Keene, and the fact that "Japan's oldest " has been so ubiquitous as a translation of the phrase "日本最古の歌集" makes me really want to believe that Trump was told by Abe through an interpreter that the source of the name "Reiwa" is "Japan's oldest poetry anthology", Trump's speech was drafted to include that, and someone looked on Misplaced Pages during the drafting.

Now, I wonder how the South Korean (and North Korean) governments will react to Trump having shoehorned in a reference to Yamanoue no Okura and not mentioning his being a likely immigrant from Paekche. That seems really like something someone on the Abe side got Trump to say and no one on the American side knew enough to see the problem. Then again, it's entirely possible I'm literally the only person to notice this who wasn't directly involved.

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 15:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

I sure wouldn't have noticed. I wanted to hear the speech to hear how Trump would trip over pronouncing Man'yōshū, but all I could find is this, which cuts out before those sections (assuming he gave the whole speech). Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:25, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:53, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
サンキュー Don't have to worry about the Koreans—he talks about "Yamanoue no Okora", so nobody's gonna notice. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 08:02, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Not sure what to make of this

I don't think I've ever conflicted with a user who was trying to set themselves up as a good-faith Wikipedian whose goals were in line with the project, who immediately after failing to get me site-banned posted a bunch of dog-whistles about "those sneaky Japs" on their user page. Obviously a lot of editors I've conflicted with have assumed I was secretly Japanese despite my relatively much better English than Japanese ability and the clear statement on my user page, but this is a step or two further, and those guys were usually using throwaway sock accounts to do that. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 02:18, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Well, I don't know your history with the user, but I've noticed there's a breed of American that likes to whip out Pearl Harbour at every opportunity—plenty of such folk were calling 東日本大震災 "payback for Pearl Harbour". Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 03:25, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
Well, I had seen no indication that he was one of those guys despite combing a bunch of his edits for copyvio. Basically after I opened a CCI on him he opened an ANI on me, and a bunch of folks showed up to essentially say "Yeah, Hijiri88 is very much in the right in this case, so let's just put the OP under more scrutiny for copyvio, and not indef him for harassment" (some people who didn't know me said "Let's indef the OP for copyvio"). After a couple of days I decided I'd had enough and went on break, after which point the thread was closed. Once I came back to Misplaced Pages yesterday, suddenly the offending editor was posting anti-Japanese propaganda on his user page, and citing the 75th anniversary of D-Day (!?) as an excuse. I'm not sure if he thinks I won't notice, or if the mere fact of my having noticed is gonna be trumped up by him as further evidence of my "hounding him" -- it would do him great if he could point to anti-Japanese edits he made before his first interaction with me, but otherwise it just looks like he's posting racist dog-whistles on his user page specifically for my attention, which is the opposite of me hounding him. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 03:46, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

HOUND

Posting this here because, while I'm not afraid to point it out in public, I'm worried that posting a "we really don't need to listen to this guy, since he's here for tendentious and highly hypocritical reasons" directly on WT:HARASS would be tagged as "inappropriate use of a policy talk page" even though it's clearly on-topic and relevant. I dunno ... if you or User:Tryptofish or User:CorbieV agree with me then I wouldn't need to be the one to point it out.

I'm just going to point out that despite claiming HARASS is the most important Misplaced Pages policy excepting possibly NPA, Snow Rise has never edited this page before posting the above, and is in fact one of the editors who has repeatedly asserted that when I monitor the edits of disruptive editors like the above-mentioned 11-character editor it qualifies as hounding, and was himself personally responsible for much of the difficulty in handling the problematic editors. His opinion on who is in the right never seems to change no matter how many of the users I was "hounding" ultimately get sitebanned. How did he notice this discussion, why does he show up every time I am accused of "hounding" a problematic editor (including attempting to rewrite a clear statement by ArbCom in order to rehash hounding accusations he had made three years earlier), and do you think he realizes the irony of him repeatedly accusing me of hounding?

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:33, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

I don't know why you should post here about it ... but it did raise my eyebrows when I saw SR post that there. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 20:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Your ping for "CorbieV" should have been for User:CorbieVreccan. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 20:46, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Well, I had posted there like a week ago with no word, but then I posted a description of one of the many incidents that inspired my view on the matter (the correct view, sanctioned by ArbCom, and pretty much everyone else who is not themselves a tendentious editor), pinged you, you commented, and suddenly SR became interested. Not sure if that was relevant, but you do have something of a history of agreeing with me when I accuse "the editors I was hounding" of in fact hounding me. (Emailing the diff, since that is something I'm "afraid to point out in public" because it would give the appearance of gravedancing.) Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 22:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

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Malcolm X page

Hello,

I was wondering if you could insert this Malcolm X quote somewhere on his Misplaced Pages page

"“The media’s the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that’s power. Because they control the minds of the masses. The press is so powerful in its image-making role, it can make the criminal look like he’s a the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. This is the press, an irresponsible press. It will make the criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” ― Malcom X"


Here is the source. It's the second quote from the top. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/search?q=%E2%80%9CThe+media%27s+the+most+powerful+entity+on+earth.+They+have+the+power+to+make+the+innocent+guilty+and+to+make+the+guilty+innocent%2C+and+that%27s+power.+Because+they+control+the+minds+of+the+masses.%E2%80%25


Thank you. 37.230.207.224 (talk) 16:52, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

In what context? And why ask me? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:21, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

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Rainer Maria Rilke

Funny: the Poetry Foundation as a source came up in my Misplaced Pages class last week. Students were using it, and I explained that IMO their pages can be used to verify basic, factual information, but not statements like the one in the Rilke article (I'll use that as an example Monday). If the page listed an author, and if sources were provided, it might be a different thing--but saying "according to the Poetry Foundation..." will not do here, of course. We just need to cut that entire sentence, I think. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:48, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

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Suitability of The Pickwick Papers (1913 film) for FAC

Hi Curly Turkey. I brought The Pickwick Papers (1913 film) to good article status a few months ago, and I am now considering nominating it for featured article status. Would you be willing to take a look over the article and give your opinion on how it would fare at FAC? Although you aren't listed at Misplaced Pages:Mentoring for FAC, I wanted to ask you since you have brought several silent film articles to featured status. Thanks in advance. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 21:15, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Lord Bolingbroke: It's not a subject I know much about, so I can't speak to its comprehensiveness. The writing seems fine—I made some very minor, mostly insubstantial edits that you can feel free to revert, but the quality of writing would not have been an issue at FAC. If it were me, I'd add some very brief contextualizing both the novel (publication and reputation?) and Bunny (birth, length and character of career?). Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:56, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for reading through the article. A quick question re this edit: Wouldn't the period remain inside the nested quotes to preserve the original quotation? I agree that some additional context may be helpful; the question is where to put it, however. Would material about Bunny's career fit in the production section? Would a sentence or two about the novel's publication details fit in the plot section? I'll put the article aside and re-evaluate its potential for expansion in a few weeks. I don't want to rush things since I haven't nominated a FA before. :) In any case, I'll probably reach out to one of the editors at WP:FAM for a more in-depth review before taking the plunge. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 22:46, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
No, we don't preserve outside house styles on Misplaced Pages. We would only do so if there were some significance to doing so (say, to compare stylings, or to demonstrate something).
As for where to put the context: you could have a short "Background" section, or, as you say, you could say something in the plot summary. Say, something along the lines of "The Pickwick Papers appeared in 1836 and was Charles Dickens first novel; . The film adapts only three ...".
To be honest, unless a subject expert were to point out some gaping flaw or oversight, I wouldn't be surprised to see it promoted pretty much as is. There might be some technical details you could add—length and gauge of film? Is it known what cameras or other equipment was used? Filmic techniques or whatever?
Looking a bit more closely, I can see a brief history in th esecond endnote about previous Pickwick adaptations. YOu could move that into a background section—start with the novel's publication and legacy, move onto film adaptations, and conclude with a capsule history of Bunny's career. Maybe two brief paragraphs. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:23, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
A separate background section seems like the way to go. I didn't think there was enough material for one when I was first writing the article, but if I include more info on Bunny's career, as you suggest, a stand-alone section would fit effectively into the structure of the article. One paragraph on Bunny and his earlier work with Vitagraph, plus a paragraph on Dickens's original novel and its earlier film adaptations, would definitely make the article easier to understand for readers unfamiliar with the subject. This would also resolve the issue of having such a bulky footnote on previous adaptations of Pickwick.I feel confident about the article's comprehensiveness. Gill cites one article (from the Chatham News if I'm remembering correctly) that I wasn't able to track down with an interlibrary loan request. Other than that, I've tracked down all the cross-references from the sources I've cited. Unless I've missed something major in my research, our article is the most comprehensive account of The Pickwick Papers yet written.Regarding the technical details you asked about, the British Film Institute specifies that the film gauge is 35mm and that the length is 2079 ft. (The BFI only has two out of the three reels, however; we could extrapolate that the full length is ~3,000 ft., but that would be original research.) Sources appear to be silent on the equipment and filmic techniques employed in the film's production. The sources that go into the most detail about production—the two Moving Picture World articles by Hoffman—focus more on Bunny and the crew (e.g., their attempt to borrow a historic cab from the British Museum) rather than the technical details of filming. The best I could tell you in this regard is that the crew consisted of Laurence Trimble, the director, and one camera operator. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 01:10, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Before I comment further, I just want to reiterate that, despite the number of film FAs I've produced, I'm not a film buff, and have relied on reviewers to spot technical and contextual issues. I don't know how necessary, useful, or helpful the tech information is, but it seems to be a popular thing to include when available. If you include it, I'd word it something like "the copies in the BFINA are 2079 ft". We don't know th elength of the other reel, so leave it to the reader to speculate. Unless you have a source explicitly stating so, we don't know if the 2079 ft is even the full length: Gertie the Dinosaur, for instance, is missing at least one sequence, which was discovered only because of the discovery of unicorporated "cels"—if they hadn't been discovered, you would never guess anything was missing.
Or, you could just leave it out, unless a reviewer requests it. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:27, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
I'm late in replying, but I just want to thank you for taking time to look over the article even though you were going through a contentious on-wiki disagreement. I appreciate your feedback, which has helped clarify my thinking on how to improve the article. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 21:02, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
I don't know if you care at this point, but just to follow up to the above: I think I'll leave out the technical information on the film reels for now. Simply specifying the number of reels (and that one of them is a split reel) should be enough for most readers. If another reviewer thinks the technical info is valuable, it'll be easy to add. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 21:25, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

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Reading Kafka

Thank you for watching over Franz Kafka. Similarity of his topcs and our presence coincidental, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:48, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Railroaded

Curly, I hope you read this, IMHO, you got railroaded by the arbs, I mean , in one section they say:

Edit warring: cite check

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Huh? you explained in detail on the talk page what the problem was. Are they actually reading the talk page itself ?!?!

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WTF?!?!?! Sources are black or white, what's that bullshit? If the source says something and it's realiable, it can be used. If the source doesn't say something, we can't pretend that it does. They're flat out wrong!!

I think you got railroaded ala Fram and think you should appeal to a higher level than the arbs and get this reversed! Wekeepwhatwekill (talk) 13:28, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Less active

Hey Curly Turkey, I just saw that you are done for now. Yeah, me too; I have dropped way off. Too dramatic here. I still check in and make occasional edits sometimes, so I hope you do too. See you around. —Prhartcom♥ 04:32, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

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Thank you today for Love It to Death, "about the Alice Cooper band's breakthrough album, which took them from mere chicken-slaughtering infamy to pop superstardom—within two years they'd be rivaling Led Zeppelin in ticket sales, and would leave a lasting influence on punk, hard rock, and metal"! - To death: just received the call that a cousin died. Life is too short, miss her, and you. Flowers. I just wrote Alte Liebe. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

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Wrecking Crew article and FA

Curly Turkey, I know that you have been retired—I haven't been very active myself lately. But, I should start doing more here again. I thought I'd ask for your advice if you wouldn't mind. I know that you had advised me awhile back to seek FA on a shorter article, first, before I try to tackle something as large and difficult as the Garage rock article. I was thinking that the Wrecking Crew article might be a good place to start. It is currently GA. I was wondering if you think it has good prospects for FA and, if so, what improvements it would need to get there.

Also, I want to thank you for all of the generous help you gave me. It meant so much. I am aware that you had some issues that prompted your decision to retire—this can be a very frustrating place sometimes. But, I also want to thank you for all you have done here. I can guarantee that your significant contributions are deeply appreciated by many and that you are greatly missed. Garagepunk66 (talk) 04:09, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Wonderful!

Ran across your Hokkoku Goshiki-zumi article; it's excellent! Sorry to see you're gone. --Falcorian  00:14, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

User:Curly Turkey/Cite comics

Hello Curly Turkey. Would you be agreeable to deleting User:Curly Turkey/Cite comics? The reason I ask is that the "template" isn't used for anything real, and where it is used, it's causing lint errors including Missing end tags and Misnested tag with different rendering in HTML5 and HTML4. It hasn't been worked on in eight years. Can we either fix the lint errors or delete it? —Anomalocaris (talk) 22:08, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Ukiyo-e

Heya - saw your edits over at Ukiyo-e. I wanted to let you know, as the editor who originally added those {{transl}} tags, it's never been my objective to be "sloppy"; before I added them to the article, I think a number of instances of the word "ukiyo-e" had been italicised, and in the interests of caution, I made the decision to place all instances of the word in language tags.

I ought to have checked a dictionary to see if the word had become loanword enough not to need a language tag, and I'm sorry I got it wrong. However, I try my best to improve Misplaced Pages articles - including their accessibility, and I try my best to raise awareness of this with other editors, as well. Rather than careless italicisation - and I myself have run into some instances of that recently, like reference tags with italics around them - I wanted to make it at least clear that I had the goal of accessibility in mind, and hedged my bets, if this makes sense.

I apologise; I'll be more cautious in the future. --Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 10:27, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

As for the {{Nihongo}} tags in the main body of the text - I'm pretty sure I added most of those in as well. Again, my goal wasn't to "clutter up" or "invade" the main body of the text, nor to "undo others' hard work" - it was merely bringing it in line with a number of other Japanese culture articles I've edited, wherein transliterated terms, their kanji and their translation are kept as one within the text within a single template.
I apologise again - I know that foreign language terms can either be kept as footnotes or within the text. I simply did what I editorially thought to be best practice, based on my editing history and having never run into any issues containing Japanese language terms within the text before. -- Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 10:36, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

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Giant Baba and Rikidozan

I'm very sorry to ask you this, but can you translate from Japanese to English the six pages on this site about Giant Baba's childhood. They're about his early life and I've search much to find them. You can write all in my talk page. Moreover, there are also more information about Rikidozan's family and early life that nobody had translate yet: 1, 2, 3. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.12.11.245 (talk) 15:22, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Can you do it?

Osaka Castle

There is the story about gold steal from this castle by Kajisuke (梶助) in 1740. Please, can you write the complete story from a translation of these Japanese sites: 1, 2, 3. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.8.31.27 (talk) 10:53, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

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my story today

Thank you today for the article, introduced (in 2015): "Chester Brown got over his anxiety and guilt over his obsessive masturbating by drawing it for the world to see. He now advocates prostitution to replace traditional sexual relations. It all begins here, along with graphic depictions of Brown's peculiar masturbation style. Clearly this is the article editors will be tumbling over each other to review." - Those were the days. We miss you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:53, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

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You're really motherfucking dedicated to provoking an unfortunate response, you motherfucking troll. Keep the fuck off my talk page. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Some admins might block you for that comment alone, CT. I'm not going to; it would take more than that for me to block you for cussing somebody out on your own page. But your personal attacks and assumptions of bad faith on Talk:Holocaust victims are beyond the pale. You have been blocked for 72 hours. You can request unblock from an uninvolved administrator by placing {{unblock|your reason here}} on this page. Bishonen | tålk 10:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
Will The Banner's disruptions and provocations be dealt with? He apparently has a history of this stuff, and I did call out for help dealing with it. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
If there are provocations, you're supposed to help yourself by not rising to them. I don't see any obvious provocations at Talk:Holocaust victims, though. Posting a mealy-mouthed warning template intended for newbies on this page is pretty provocative, though, which is part of the reason I'm not (much) objecting to your response to it. Bishonen | tålk 11:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
Please use your own words in a situation like this, The Banner. Bishonen | tålk 11:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
Bishonen: Misplaced Pages needs to prioritize dealing with disruptive behaviour. Everything The Banner did in this interaction was aiming at this outcome, including an accusation of "personal attacks" before I said anything that could be interpreted as such. Surely you don't want to enable such bad behaviour. This will only encourage him to do it again, and he already has a history of edit warring and aggressive interactions. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
And now The Banner is making a point of posting a provocative response to that discussion, knowing I can't respond. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 12:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
I stated a fact. The Banner talk 12:59, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
This ("no improvement, the quote was accurate.") this, and this are proof that you would've made the reverts regardless, so, no, it would not have "settled the matter with removing two characters".
But you win your game, The Banner. You can fuck with people as you please, and the admins will even help you. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 20:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Floquenbeam Re: "deal"—I'm not unretired, and wasn't even going to be here tomorrow. Instead of offering a "deal", why not "deal" with the editwarring troll who will be here tomorrow, instead of blocking whoever he successfully baits into f-bombing? Now emboldened with a fresh success. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Bishonen may have a different take, but my own thought is: When you're snarking back and forth with someone else at levels 1 and 2, and then you break out a level 10 response, it's really hard to deal with the other editor "equally". I'm afraid you went too far over the top for something to happen to the other editor now. I usually instinctively sympathize with a person being baited into something - if nothing else, their soul is less slimey - but ... not at this level of disproportionality.
The only remaining concern I have is if you two had a previous history. If so, those reverts start looking less confused and more calculated. Floquenbeam (talk) 17:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
There was no "snark" until The Banner had thoroughly stonewalled the "discussion", so the root issue has nothing to do with language.
"it's really hard to deal with the other editor "equally"": Who said anything about "equally"? How about "appropriately", so he doesn't think he can get away with this stuff again?
"I'm afraid you went too far over the top for something to happen to the other editor now"—meaning a troll gets off if they are sufficiently successful. No wonder they get away with this stuff so frequently here.
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