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| == adding POV tag == | |||
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| as per ], “There is no requirement in Misplaced Pages policies that editors must "pay their dues" by working on an article before they can add a tag, so long as they explain the rationale for the tag on the talk page.” | |||
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| :"REASON for TAGGING: the content of the article is obviously being disputed" is a ]. Your actual reason for the tag: "". Explain. ] (]) 23:33, 20 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::Quite frankly, my actual reason is "". I'm a mythbuster myself, and nothing against you or what not, in fact I actually laud you for your contributions as a Misplaced Pages Editor, but when it comes to articles related to Duterte? what happened man? why is there a media bias? ] doesnt apply here based on my analysis. We are not in a circular argument here as well. I don't care about Duterte. Also, Davao is an "okay" city but anyway let's just set those aside, those are not relevant. Going back, I'm okay with that section in the lead, it's just that you portray Philippine media as an inferior and unreliable source due to "falsely" claiming something that and that while Reuters and Guardians are superior and "INFALLIBLE". I mean i love Reuters and Guardians. They are excellent and reliable sources, but the way you wrote those lines in the lead is different. How is that? My vision is just to have that re-written, not remove that just like what other editors want. Come on man, you're better than that. | |||
| :::What would you suggest? Just removing the word "falsely" would imply there is some truth to the myth. "Davao has been falsely described" would be more accurate, I will add that now. ] (]) 05:14, 21 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Well that's fair enough. It's better than just simply "falsely". Anyway, I suggest that the word "imprecisely" instead of "falsely" is more appropriate for that; it would still not imply there is some truth to the myth though; and "in reality" could be changed to "in actuality". That sounds more appropriate. I mean "reality" sounds more of a "fiction/fantasy vs reality" thing in the literature world if that makes sense. Well it's up to you though. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:31, 21 February 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :::::There is no enormous shame that the national media got something wrong. I don't see it as such a big deal, just needs setting straight in the article. I can't see any way to improve on what is there now. ] (]) 06:43, 21 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::I removed "in reality", because one user thought it gave them the right to edit war without having read the article etc. Anyhow, hopefully that also resolves this dispute. ] (]) 11:46, 22 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Looks fine to me now. However i still suggest to have the pov tag added until disputes from other users are fully resolved. Cheers. ] | |||
| :::::::::One more thing, how about changing falsely to fallaciously? that might help resolve the dispute. | |||
| ::::::::::I've added "incorrectly" because "fallaciously" is archaic or non-standard and means the same thing. | |||
| == Recently added school article and theme song of the city ''Tayo'y Dabawenyo'' == | |||
| {{edit semi-protected|Davao City|answered=yes}} | |||
| on the section ''Education'' below of it the ''Other tertiary institutions in the city include:'' pls add a recently added school article of Davao ] and link the article ], ] which is "Brokenshire College of Davao" | |||
| and found possibly etymology source if it's correct you add the ref and if it's for the template too? and Someone should put/upload the theme song of the city, source is here <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=FA">] (])</span> 11:28, 5 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :] '''Already done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> ] ] ] 03:44, 9 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| == Created page: ] == | |||
| Since the education section was written like a list as to what ] says, I therefore edited the education section by moving the lists of schools to ]. My basis was to how ] and ] was written in their education section. | |||
| You may reply on this thread if you have any concerns to what I've made. You can also check the talk page of ] to further discuss this matter. | |||
| Thanks and good day! ] (]) 04:39, 25 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| == nPOV Dispute - Lead section == | |||
| I would like to dispute once again this article, acertain to what was written by user:zzz for some reasons: | |||
| 1. It might sound contradictory as to what the national media suggests that Davao City was the "Safest City in the World", one given by user:zzz had pointed out that Davao City was given a Seal of Good Local Governance and the Most Child Friendly City for highly-urbanized city category in 2015; of which the national government is giving such recognition based on the city's performance, especially on it's law and order. | |||
| Said seal is given to a city that performed well in terms of Law and Order, Local Ordinance implementations, and Good Governance. This had been properly reviewed based on the data provided by the police reports, Commission on Audit, and the Philippine Statistics Authority. And despite to the "police data" (as what was reported by ) has shown, Davao police debunked that accusations that the crime rate of their City was high. Local police suggests that of the data they had provided, only 36% were listed as crimes, says to one reporting in , and that the others are attributed to the non-index crimes. | |||
| Non-index crimes are the highest in the Philippines as what was once said , and thus index crimes are lower in comparison. Thus, data shown by The Guardian do include the non-index crimes, and therefore should not be the basis to how safe a certain place is. (Note: The data that is implying by The Guardian is the same data that once in question by Mar Roxas, a presidential candidate back in 2016). | |||
| For further reading about the Seal of Good Local Governance, check this . | |||
| 2. As to what ] suggests, this writing should be fall under the history of Davao City, not in the lead section. There is also a section provided under "Law and Order" I suggest it should have been written there. | |||
| == Ayya Vaigundar == | |||
| If we agree to what user:zzz wrote about this article, then neither ] should be tagged as "More Dangerous City than of ]" as to what suggests, and thus should be written this on London's lead section. Crimes in London should also be highlighted on the lead section and shall be do the same to other cities....in which I highly contradict, and therefore must be resolved here with ]'s article. Crime in London is really high though, says . But as for London, it had provided a special section under "Policing and crime" where it highlights the criminal statistics of the said city. This haven't written otherwise on the lead section since this had being suggested to how ] is suggesting and thus Davao City should be written as the same. | |||
| அகிலத்திரட்டு அம்மானை என்ற நூலை அறிந்தவர்கள் அய்யா வைகுண்டர் பற்றி முழுமையாக அறிந்து கொள்ளலாம் ஹிந்து மதத்தின் பக்குவப்பட்ட மேன்மையான வழிபாடு அய்யா வழிபாடு இதுவரை ஹிந்து மதம் நான்கு யுகம் பற்றி மட்டுமே சொல்லியுள்ளது ஆனால் எட்டு யுக கணக்குகளை பற்றியும் முக்காலத்தையும் சொல்வது அகிலத்திரட்டு அம்மானை யுகா யுகங்கள் தோறும் அதர்மத்தை அழிக்க எம்பெருமான் எடுத்த அவதாரங்களின் சிறப்பையும் ஏகம் ஒரு பரம் என்ற தத்துவத்தையும் எங்கும் ஏகமயமாய் நிறைந்திருக்கும் இறைவன் உருவமற்ற அரூபி என்றும் சொல்கிறது அகிலத்திரட்டு அம்மானை. | |||
| Also, please see ] to further review the lead section. I would suggest that this should have this be removed on the lead section and instead to be written under the History, or in the Law and Order section. For somehow, I had tried this once in order to uniform the article as to what ] and ] suggests, but user:zzz disagrees the edit as if that this article is his own, leading to a short edit war between us a few days ago. I hope he is aware about ] as one had suggested this earlier on the previous nPOV Dispute. | |||
| '''அகிலத்திரட்டு அம்மானை பெயர்க்காரணம்''' | |||
| I also noticed that the old nPOV Dispute was removed without a proper disclosure to concerning parties. It was once suggested by user:ChinChinhan that he would use the term "fallaciously" instead of "incorrectly", but neither which has been followed. | |||
| அகிலம் திரட்டு உலகம் மொத்தத்தையும் திரட்டி இந்த கலியுக வாழ்வை கடந்து தர்மயுகம் என்ற முக்தியை பெற்று இறைவனோடு இரண்டற கலக்கும் வழியை சொல்வது தான் அகிலத்திரட்டு இது அம்மானை ராகத்தில் பாடப்பட்டதால் அகிலத்திரட்டு அம்மானை என்று அழைக்கப்படுகிறது. | |||
| Therefore, I would like to give concensus to this dispute to be reviewed by everyone and that the nPOV Dispute shall only be removed once conditions had met. ] (]) 20:39, 28 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| : To add, I would like to also debunk the statement that the national media here had incorrectly reported Davao City as the safest city. In fact, they even highlighted the real situation in Davao City, tagging as the 4th highest in terms of index crimes. This had been reported by , , , and . | |||
| நாட்டுக்கு அதிவிதி நான் நாராயணனும் நான் | |||
| :To recall, "The Safest City" branding was tagged in Davao back in 2015. And tho unlike what was written by user:zzz, national media did their part to report the real status of the city. To what user:zzz has written, I say this may fall to the writer's point of view, in which violates the neutrality of this article. With the guidelines written at ], opinions should not be regarded as facts. Therefore, to tag national media being bias to their reporting about Davao, but in which was not as to what my examples had given earlier, therefore it is best to have it removed. | |||
| பட்சி பறவை பல சீவ ஜந்துக்களை | |||
| நிச்சயமாய் படைத்த நீல வண்ண நாதனும் நான் | |||
| மன்னெழும் அளந்த மாயப்பெருமாளும் நான் | |||
| ⚫ | விண்ணேழும் அளந்த விஷ்ணு திருவுளம் நான் <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:16, 22 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
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| :Anyhow, Davao City's tag as the "safest city" was been debunked as well and has been agreed to be removed from the article. On the other hand, the crime rate should better be written at the Law and Order section as it was been provided in the very beginning, and this must not even to summarized at the lead section. Otherwise, other cities with troubling crimes like of ] should follow the same format. ] (]) 02:58, 29 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
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| ::The crime rate has been discussed, see above. You should suggest improvements to the ] article at ]. I fail to see any relevance. ] (]) 09:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| * ]<!-- COMMONSBOT: discussion | 2020-09-05T19:30:55.280622 | DavaoSkyline.jpg --> | |||
| :::What? So you want a negative connotations to all cities in Wikipidia, even if you won't follow the any of Wikipidian standards? Futhermore, ] was given an article. It was even linked here. | |||
| Participate in the deletion discussion at the ]. —] (]) 19:31, 5 September 2020 (UTC) | |||
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| :::Now I see your real intention to ] article. Political issues, stands or opinions isn't welcome here. ] (]) 13:51, 29 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::And neither is attacking then user, not what they say.] (]) 14:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
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| ::AS to the topic, as far as I can tell the sources say it is one of the safest, not the safest. So do we have any sources that dispute that?] (]) 14:53, 29 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| Participate in the deletion discussion at the ]. —] (]) 02:52, 6 September 2020 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Synthesis, we can only say what RS say not what we infer them to say. To illustrate, have you tabulated all of the crime figures for all of the cities in the world?. If so , which 10 cities have lower violent crime rates then Davoa?] (]) 15:09, 29 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::To be clear, are you saying you would remove the word "incorrectly" in "Davao has been incorrectly described as one of the world's safest cities in national media reports"? The word (or "falsely" or whatever) was originally added by another editor, but I thought it was fair. ] ] (]) 15:22, 29 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Yes, unless RS say it is incorrect we cannot.] (]) 15:32, 29 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::You could be right, I have removed it. ] (]) 15:35, 29 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::Now it looks as though Misplaced Pages is allowing ] as a ], unfortunately. ] (]) 15:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::I have reverted my revert. This has been stable for a while. Maybe someone else will offer an opinion. ] (]) 15:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::The Guardian ref states "On the back of his claims of having established law and order in Davao, Duterte, 72, was seen as a strong man, a saviour and an antidote to the “narco” state the Philippines had apparently spiralled into. But behind the bluster the statistics don’t lie: Davao still has the highest murder rate in the country and the second highest number of rapes, according to national police data for 2010-15." Statistics don't lie, i.e. the claim is a lie. Not synth, it's there in the source. ] (]) 18:12, 29 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
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அகிலத்திரட்டு அம்மானை என்ற நூலை அறிந்தவர்கள் அய்யா வைகுண்டர் பற்றி முழுமையாக அறிந்து கொள்ளலாம் ஹிந்து மதத்தின் பக்குவப்பட்ட மேன்மையான வழிபாடு அய்யா வழிபாடு இதுவரை ஹிந்து மதம் நான்கு யுகம் பற்றி மட்டுமே சொல்லியுள்ளது ஆனால் எட்டு யுக கணக்குகளை பற்றியும் முக்காலத்தையும் சொல்வது அகிலத்திரட்டு அம்மானை யுகா யுகங்கள் தோறும் அதர்மத்தை அழிக்க எம்பெருமான் எடுத்த அவதாரங்களின் சிறப்பையும் ஏகம் ஒரு பரம் என்ற தத்துவத்தையும் எங்கும் ஏகமயமாய் நிறைந்திருக்கும் இறைவன் உருவமற்ற அரூபி என்றும் சொல்கிறது அகிலத்திரட்டு அம்மானை.
அகிலத்திரட்டு அம்மானை பெயர்க்காரணம்
அகிலம் திரட்டு உலகம் மொத்தத்தையும் திரட்டி இந்த கலியுக வாழ்வை கடந்து தர்மயுகம் என்ற முக்தியை பெற்று இறைவனோடு இரண்டற கலக்கும் வழியை சொல்வது தான் அகிலத்திரட்டு இது அம்மானை ராகத்தில் பாடப்பட்டதால் அகிலத்திரட்டு அம்மானை என்று அழைக்கப்படுகிறது.
நாட்டுக்கு அதிவிதி நான் நாராயணனும் நான்
பட்சி பறவை பல சீவ ஜந்துக்களை
நிச்சயமாய் படைத்த நீல வண்ண நாதனும் நான்
மன்னெழும் அளந்த மாயப்பெருமாளும் நான்
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