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== Suggestions for dealing with Tequendamia ==


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I would love to help, but I am probably not the best candidate because I need to sleep right now (It's 1:30 am where I live) and I have only a superficial knowledge of India. However, I would make two suggestions based on my review of the dispute:
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# If he is adding information to the wrong articles, try directing him to a relavent page where he can add the information. ], perhaps? It appears to have sections for various countries. Some of his information is referenced and would merit inclusion ''somewhere''.
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# Try refactoring his additions to articles into ] rather than using whole-sale reversion. This may be irksome to you in cases where you disagree with his statements, but if you are able to rewrite his POV-laden statements into neutral ones, it should simultaneously improve the article's comprehensiveness, calm him down, and improve your own ability to disasssociate yourself emotionally from the subject matter. It would similarly be good of you to stop removing his talk page comments. It will simply escalate the dispute by angering him.
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'''Immediate Work Needed'''
The following articles have been ruined by racist wikipedians with misrepresented citations and fake references
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'''Articles Created/Worked on''':
Best of luck to you, the best way to deal with people like him is to stop viewing them as opponents and instead attempt to work with their contributions, insisting on sources but allowing their sourced information into the articles after it is neturally rewritten. By doing this, you will hopefully be able to train them in neutral writing so that they become a valuable contributor, rather than alienating them. I'll also leave a note by Teq's talk page before I go to bed. --] 08:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


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==Barrani is a historian not a Cleric==
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Barrani's two books are still read for Indian Medieval history in universities:
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Barani, Ziauddin Tarikh-I-Firuzshahi,
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Barani, Ziauddin Fatawa-I-Jahandari,
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'''Current Projects''':
== Blocked for ] violation ==


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You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the ]. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.</div>
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==unblock==
* ]: dd more on ethnic Balochi and Pushtun Nationalism + stuff about the Mojahirs and Ahmadiyyas.
<nowiki>{{unblock reviewed|</nowiki>I think there has been a misunderstanding again. I did not commit 3RR on ]. Not a single edit of mine was a revert.Point of fact, the user ] violated 3RR. Not a single one of my edits were reverts, and in the talk page of the article I was reverting HIS vandalism of my edits which he was unilaterally deleting.Please see my talk page for a summary of my diffs, not a single one is a revert. This user refused to discuss with me despite my pleas to talk to him and was even admonished by an admin.Please understand I was not violating 3RR|see below}}
* ], RfC/advocacy pending, not all historical perspectives represented+ dubious statements.
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'''Future Projects''':
My diffs:


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::No I have not.I am very careful not to violate 3RR EVER!I rarely even violate 1RR unless it's overt vandalism.
* Article on anti-Mojahir riots in Pakistan
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* Post Bugti Riots.
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None of the diffs beyond my first revert for the day were reverts. See for yourself:


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Not a revert:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Indian_caste_system&diff=81970320&oldid=81968853
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'''Immediate Tasks''':
Not a revert:
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Indian_caste_system&diff=81972522&oldid=81970739


Terry's reverts lie between these diffs.


In fact, it was ] who started the reverting of my extremely well-sourced edits with a summary that shows clear ] violation.


==Material for Muslim Caste System and Fatwa-i-Jahandari in ]==
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Indian_caste_system&diff=81969852&oldid=81968853
#Arthashastra of Kautilya and Fatawa-i-Jahandari of Ziauddin Barani : an analysis / by Arbind Das.
#The political theory of the Delhi sultanate: Including a translation of Ziauddin Barani's Fatawa-i Jahandari, circa, 1358-9 A.D by Mohammad Habib
#Foundations of Indian Political Thought by V.R. Mehta
#Ideology, Modernization and Politics of India by V.R. Mehta


and


http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Indian_caste_system&diff=81971875&oldid=81970739


Both of his (not mine) edits are bad faith reverts of my sourced edits with his dubious assertions and attributions to sources that don;t contain the things he says they do.


==Extra material for Christian Castes in ]==
Plus, latter edit diffs:
# http://www.newindpress.com/Newsitems.asp?ID=IET20030413133514&Topic=&Title=This%20is%20India&Page=O
# http://www.hindu.com/2004/04/10/stories/2004041010410300.htm
# http://www.dalitchristians.com/Html/DCLMtocbci.htm
#The Lopsided Spread of Christianity: Toward an Understanding of the Diffusion of Religions By Robert L. Montgomery
#Caste and Christianity: Attitudes and Policies on Caste of Anglo-Saxon Protestant Missions in India. by Duncan B. Forrester Journal of Asian Studies, Vol. 41, No. 4 (Aug., 1982), pp. 865-866
==Extra material for Latin American Caste system in ]==
#Caste in a peasant society by Marvin Tumin
#Human tradition in colonial Latin America by K. Andrien (establishes history)
#Born in Blood and Fire: A Concise History of Latin America by J Chasteen
#Latin American Civilization: History and Society, 1492 to the Present B. Keen (clearly mentions caste system)
#Race and Nation in Modern Latin America by James Herriot et al. Talks about caste system today


==DYK's==
Not one revert among these:
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] put a strong effort on ] - ] ] 02:32, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Indian_caste_system&diff=81989280&oldid=81988861


== Barnstars ^_^ ==
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Indian_caste_system&diff=81989709&oldid=81989280


], hereby award you the '''Exceptional Newcomer''' award for your contributions to ]-related articles. Good job!]]
In contrast, all of Teq's edits WERE reverts] 13:27, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


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:I'm declining to unblock. Looking through the diffs, you removed the "racism" category 4 times. Although you also added new categories, that's a revert-based edit war, which is what the 3RR really refers to. You're right that Tequemandia was violating the 3RR, but he has also been blocked for it. ]]<sup>]</sup> 13:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
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::yes but he evaded the block with a sock. ] says that his block timer should be reset but it has not been.] 14:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
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<nowiki>{{unblock|Per discussion on irc, I now formally apologize for violating 3RR and beg the admins to consider my case as I have been very respectful of ] ] and ] and have spent close to 6 hours a week in library doing research for my edits to wikipedia and got upset when (I felt) vandal users undid all my edits and replaced them with offensive content.Please forgive me for I lost my cool.}}</nowiki>] 14:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


:I am assuming good faith in your case. I have your word that you will not be breaching ] on a single article. Discussion on talk pages is always a better way to resolve disputes. In case you have a problem with another user, you could try ] or contact another user/administrator who has been regularly contributing on the topic or might be knowledgeable on the subject. Please ] while dealing with other editors. &mdash; ]<span class="plainlinks"> </span> 14:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


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::Thanks. I still appear to be blocked] 14:34, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
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] given by {{User|Dangerous-Boy}}]]
:::You will not be editing the articles on which you were blocked for ] or any other related articles for a period of 21 hours. Thank you. &mdash; ]<span class="plainlinks"> </span> 14:35, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


For all the crap you go through.--] 18:51, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
== Your perspectives ==


You claim to be Jewish, however, you're as defensive of Hinduism and accusatory of anti-Semitism as ]. Another reason why I still believe you're the same person. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:35, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
:What you think is inconsequential to me] 16:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
::Great! ] <sup>]</sup> 16:38, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
:: Hello dear user ]. I totally agree with you ! I've been also accused of antisemitism by ] (see my user talk page on ) simply because I used the word 'neocon'. But the funniest of all is that ] (also known under the name ]) introduces himself as neocon !. May be it's time to settle that case once and for all. We can mail-exchange info if you like. All the best and congratulations for your win. ] 17:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
::We'll see who "wins".] 17:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


== ] ==
== anti-hindu pics ==


interesting discussion --] 07:28, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
i will see if i can arrange some GDFL pics. Btw, do you know how to read urdu.]] 23:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
::Not really, but the tv picture was captioned in English. However, I have friends who can read Urdu so I can verify translations.] 09:05, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


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"South Asian Caste System" anyone? <b>] </b>] 17:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
HKelkar you can certainly give positive OR negative inputs but please don't revert SOURCED edits of others. The whole article from first line shows references and links. ] 10:09, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
::I removed them because they were partisan and doubtful per ]. '''YOU''' removed '''MY''' edits '''DESPITE''' that fact that were ourced by '''NON-PARTISAN''' periodical "The-Week" and not some Neo-Buddhit mouthpeice.] 10:14, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
:::The link of The-Week? I don't know whos mouthpeice is it? If it is related to Buddhists in India and value add to the article then we can put that link. ] 14:30, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Always check if the sourced view is not that of a minority or fringe.There may be other elements in the article that may tell about the leanings of the author.]


== Re: BAd Faith Assumptions ==
==India dont have any neo-Buddhists but have few BUDDHISTs==
HKelkar what is neo-Buddhist population? Where do we find details about their population? Because now-a-days in USA/Europe and India many people are converting to ] because of its Prajna (Understanding), Love and Peace loving nature. But all these people are called as ]. There are philosohpically different schools but the Buddhist world is united.
About India before making any comment please go through the <b>OFFICIAL INDIAN GOVERNMENT DATA</b> about ] population in India. Accept legal things only. Misplaced Pages believes in FACTS! Brush up bacis knowledge about Buddhist Population in India and also growing numbers.
MY COUNTRY INDIA counts population ]s, ]s, ]s, ]s, ]s, ]s few other religions also but not neo-Buddhists. Where are these people?
There is also another category known as ] who constitutes approx. 25% population of whole India. These SC/ST majority illeterate very poor, oppressed people are branded as ]s! Some of these SC/ST people are Ambedkarites but they are also ]s. <b>SC/STs are NOT called as ]s!!</b> That is why ] population in India is only around 0.8% or less. But it is continuously growing because of religious conversion such as 14th Oct. 2006 events. There might be some anti-Buddhist mothpiece but MY COUNTRY INDIA gives details about ] in India. Brush up your knowledge about Buddhist Movement in India. Understand the difference between different religions and then write. Your inputs are always welcome. ] 14:30, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
::Please read about ] and ].] 00:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


Dear HKelkar, first of all thanks for pointing me to the ] and ]. I will keep them in mind. But please note that the article in question, has no reference to caste based struggle as discussed on ]. I suggest keeping in mind the facts we should try to remove the misinterpretation of facts. ] 17:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


:: Dear Hkelkar as per the article the crime has indeed been committed by dalit party activists, but where is the point of caste based struggle in it, see the news paper report ]. Didn't we discuss all this on talk page of the article in question. The article already has many short comings, why induce another. Thanks and looking for your kind cooperation ] 18:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Neo-Buddhists are part of a pattern that will lead to more NLFT's.] 09:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:::What is this Neo-Buddhist? Improve your knowledge about India and Indian Buddhist Movement. Read offical statistics and not junk available here and there.


::Dear HKelkar, thanks for pointing me to ], I agree there should be no whitewashing under any circumstances to present a rosy picture. But the caste based angle in the article in question is more of criminal nature; and the power, the criminals in them, assert is that they are part of a political entity, maybe governed by people in power, who need their muscles during elections and for gathering crowds, and in return will save the criminals from the law of the land. Then by this yard stick all and any crimes committed by any one belonging to any caste, political party for whatever reason would merit a mention in the article. Just because the world caste/ ambedkar/ dalit appears in the news should not merit its mention, as I still cant see any relation to caste struggle here. ] 18:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Hkelkar you are branding Indian ]s terorrists like NLFT?? This is a serious point and I'll complain to Administrators. I have noted your point and anti-Buddhist sentiments even you equated peaceful Indian Buddhist with Militants of Tripura ] 17:03, 20 October 2006 (UTC)


:::If a balanced view is required, then why not put up something that is actually related to article and has some element of caste struggle. What about this in a balanced manner ] in place of what is already there. I request you to present some mention of real caste struggle and not crimes by (substitute your favorite word here dalit/ brahmin/ upper caste etc). Cheers ] 19:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
== Mediator ==
:::And what about removing the section in question.] 19:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks. ] 19:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


== ] ==
Okay, fine. It has to be a mediator that has not interacted with either of us in the past though. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:29, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


Kind of amusing.--] 02:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
== ] advocacy ==


== Thanks HKelkar. ==
Hello again - I have (at last!) finalised my opinions on this case - see ] - I have tried to keep it fair, and offer advice to help the article move on - if I see blatant problems again in future by the editors involved, I will make more directed comments. Would you like to ocnsider the advocacy case closed for the time being? (I will, of course, always be available to help with anything :)) Thanks, <strong>]]]</strong> 19:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
:Also, with respect to personal attacks against you, it may be helpful, if you have diffs, for you to report the problems to an admin (look on IRC) and mention the RFCU case, after which the admin may decide to block all the socks, if the PA's are serious/sustained enough. <strong>]]]</strong> 19:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
::No problem at all, I'll be happy to help - I have the article on my watchlist (I will be unavailable over the weekend, but if anything happens, I'll take a look at it on my return). Thanks being a good advocee (even in quite a difficult case (especially at the start)). <strong>]]]</strong> 19:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
::Just as a reminder, (this is by no means compulsary) you can fill out, if you wish, the followup section of your AMA request at ]. Please feel free to do this, and don't feel any pressure to do ti at all :) thanks, <strong>]]]</strong> 19:19, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


Thanks HKelkar, I am short of words to describe the wrongs. There are some websites which allege that Hindu religion has it's roots in christainity. This is sufficiently irritating. Some anonymous editer included these (external) website links in the article. Which I removed. The same found place on talk page, seeking permission for inclusion in article by the anonymous editor. I removed these links, as through subversive means, the links were placed for viewing who view the article. The discussion for inclusion was clearly opposed by all. I removed the links from talk page. There was no objection from anyone. After some days Abecedare restored the links. I remove them, he reverts and give me a 3RR notice. Then, he goes for admin community views. I fail to express and object to the subversive way. I fail to understand the intention of Abecedare. Should the Misplaced Pages policy conveniently interpreted and used for nefarious activities?
== RE: ==


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Apart from the fact that that edit wasn't vandalism, the user's account was created on the 12th October. . -- ] 20:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


== New Rock Star ==
== Punctuation according to references ==


Hi Hkelkar, I saw the article and the latest edits. We must try to constructively discuss the changes and work on improving the article. Currently, it looks in a mess. The section on Hindutva views and Dalit views is unreferenced and POV. Do all Dalits have the same view. And whose view is it actually. I think, we need a cited historical scholarly view.
I would like to remind you that a period or comma goes ''before'' the reference, not after. Thanks, and please remember this when editing. ] ] 22:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


Anyway, we'll talk more on that. I have repaired the e-mail link. It's working now. Mail me. Bye for now. Keep rockin' --<b>]]] | </b><b><sup>]</sup></b>/<b><sub>]</sub></b>\<b><sup>]</sup></b> 07:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
== My apologies. ==


'''Is this true''' HKelkar? I would never like anyone to be blocked for an year and would also not like someone to give such cause. God Bless You. ] 11:02, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
For reverting an article, it was an accident. --] 23:13, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


== Your last message ==
Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors. See ] for the guidelines on this.<!-- Template:agf1 --> regarding ] 00:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


Serge is an Islamophobe. ] <sup>]</sup> 03:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


== Ahmadinejad == ==Refs==
'''Note:''' These refs are for my research purposes only, please do not type between them.
:These should provide some perspective on why many Pakistani editors are arguing over Indian history on wikipedia.


:'''''' in Pakistan:
I think he's an awesome guy. ] <sup>]</sup> 01:00, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
:''',Pakistan's NW Province Makes Quran Lessons Compulsory''' - From the Wall Street Journal
::Ooooooooooooh! I'm so scared!I hope he is as awesome when he tries to "wipe Israel off the map" and gets blasted into a hole in the ground.] 01:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Israel shouldn't be on the map in the first place. ] <sup>]</sup> 01:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
:::We'll see who tries to harm Israel. Israel is too prosperous, wealthy and successful to be threatened by some mad mullah.Israel has first world technology, art, science. Israel doesn't ram planes into buildings or behead journalists on television. No medeival dump with a theocratic mullah running things can be a threat to the holy land. Nor any other Arab/Persian/whatever country for that matter.] 01:07, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Israeli prosperity is a result of leeching off the United States. ] <sup>]</sup> 01:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
:Like I said, we still win. You still lose.] 01:15, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


:''':Islamic Fundamentalism and Brainwashing in Pakistan''' (news today)
Looks like there is a post on ] discussing this. ''']''' <nowiki>|</nowiki> ] 05:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC)


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== Dalit ==


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"Raj's claim of a teeming and oppressed populace eager to convert to Buddhism appears fragile at best."
This doesn't criticize the conversions - it criticizes Raj's claim. There's a difference. ] <sup>]</sup> 01:38, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


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I'm good with that. ] <sup>]</sup> 01:42, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


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== Jerusalem Massacre ==
:'''''' - by R Upadhyay
:'''''' - B.Raman
:'''''' <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 21:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->


== ArbComm ==
. ] <sup>]</sup> 02:50, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


Hi Hkelkar - there's a post at ] about your current editing - I've also sent you an email about it. It's probably best if the only editing you do is within your user-space, at least until December 19th. Just create sub-pages if you want, to work on additions to articles. Thanks <strong>]]]</strong> 19:31, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
== 12 hr block ==
I think that your comments on TerryJ-Ho's talk page claiming that he sees you as an infidel have overstepped the mark. That implies that the other user is a jihadi. Seeing as you have been numerously warned this week to tone down your aggressive behaviour, you have been blocked. ''']''' <nowiki>|</nowiki> ] 08:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


== ] ==
== Hello ==


This pak as been untagging indus valley with the indian tag on it. Could use some help on this. {{User|Szhaider}} seems to be behind it. He takes the tag off harappa civilization and other indic historic sites as well.--] 21:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I have heard that you are an ]. Thats so interesting! How do you differ from mainstream Judaism? Do you also incorperate Hindu beliefs? <b><font color="teal">]</font></b>''<sup><font color="teal">]</font></sup>'' <sup><b><font color="teal">]</font></b></sup> 02:32, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
::Well there are several small Jewish communities in India. I myself am essentially Konkani, but a Sephardic (Baghdadi) Jew on my Mother's side. She is descended from Iraqi immigrants and her family has been in Mumbai since the 19th century (not to be confused with the Beni Yisrael Jews who have been around for longer). My last name is derived from my father, who is a Hindu, as I'm sure you have guessed. My father's family are very devout worshippers of Krishna and also observe Ganesh Chaturthi..


== Indian caste system ==
::I personally have not been a very observant Jew as such in the past, though I am learning more now. I did go to the Kenesseth Eliyahu (Bombay synagogue in Fort near Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus station) during High Holy days etc. Minyanim was always there though (at least 10 male clerics).
::Regarding observance of Judaism, it is a complex matter. We follow the Commandments and the code of Moshe. While we are not strictly Orthodox (though some Indian Jews are, which is a recent development, long story there), we do follow some traditional practices like Daf Yomi (reading from Talmud), Dietary Laws (hoofed cud-chewing animals only, bled per Kashrut ), Shulchan Aruch (post-Talmudic Halakha laws) and regard the Gemara (which is like the Jewish "]" of sorts,, basically Rabbinical analysis of the Mishna of Talmud), among others.


I didn't realize there was more about mobility in the criticism section. Thanks for moving it up. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
::Some Desi Jews have adopted Hindu customs over the years (like burning the dead etc.). We mostly dress like any normal Bombayite, including traditionals like Kurta-Pajama for men, Sari-Dupattaa for women etc so we adopted those too :) .


You have violated ] by removing part of what I just added, i.e. "individual mobility among castes was generally rare." I ask that you undo this. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
::We do have an ideological connection with Israel.It was the fount of Judaism and we are happy that it has been repatriated. Some Bombay Jews are politically left-leaning (my mum is a Congress supporter) though I support BJP. ] 04:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:Nope, no 3RR here. I'll double check my edits though since you say that. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:24, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


:Aw. He came back.--] 01:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:::That's interesting; when I heard you were Jewish, I assumed from your (Marathi) last name that you were one of the Bene Israel. --] ] 02:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


Yeah, that's a common mistake :).] 03:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC) ::You problably should have called the FBI on him. I know I would have.--] 02:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


== ] ==
== Your comment on BahiSaab Block on ANI ==
:: During partition of Pakistan and India, everyone was killing everyone. How come you use that event to anti-semantic? According to my knowledge Muslims are killed more than anyone else. --- ] 15:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
::semitic, not "semantic".] 09:12, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


Voting on the use of indic scripts.--] 01:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
==] and Kelkars Serious comments==
On the ] article this user HKelkar equated peaceful Indian Buddhists with militants. Please read the whole talk page.
Sample is as below:
::Neo-Buddhists are part of a pattern that will lead to more NLFT's.] 09:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)


== >_<! ==
Hkelkar you are branding Indian ]s terorrists like NLFT?? This is a serious point and I'll complain to Administrators. I have noted your point and anti-Buddhist sentiments even you equated peaceful Indian Buddhist with Militants of Tripura. I request Administrators to BLOCK this user permanently ] 17:05, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:This is your last warning I'm afraid....''']''' <nowiki>|</nowiki> ] 07:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:Plese elaborate. These outlandish charges made by Ambedkaritebuddhist are just that, outlandish. He routinely conflates Indian Buddhism with Neo-Buddhism and that is the point I am trying to make.Indian Buddhism is normal everyday relatively harmless Buddhism practiced in India (Mahayana, Theravada, all that). Neo-Buddhism is the ] of Buddhism, basically an exploitative and political cult.] 08:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


]--] 04:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
== 3RR on ] ==


== ]? ==
Do you wish to get blocked? &mdash; ]<span class="plainlinks"> </span> 18:32, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:All of my edits over the last 24 hrs were not reverts. The other user violated 3RR on ] and is edit-warring similarly on ]. If you disagree then kindly point out my 3 diffs and I will undo my last revert.] 18:34, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
::It is always good to discuss and solve the matter, buddy. &mdash; ]<span class="plainlinks"> </span> 18:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, sir. I fully agree. However, he has refused to respond to my please for at least 3-4 days and continues to ePOV-push across wikipedia articles (see his POV-fork attempt on ] ).I have tried to plead with him on his talk page. he violated 3RR on ] and I reported him.] 18:42, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
::::That's good then. But you should not try to assume the responsibility of trying to keep POVs from all the India-related articles. The disputes will be resolved in time. And you don't need to call me "sir". My name is Anirudh. &mdash; ]<span class="plainlinks"> </span> 18:45, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
::Could you look into the matter of this ] guy? See his contribs for patterned disruption and POV-forking and 3RR violation on ] which I have reported on ANI.] 18:48, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I am on my way to bed. Perhaps you could ask ]. &mdash; ]<span class="plainlinks"> </span> 18:53, 20 October 2006 (UTC)


How does it work? {{User|Szhaider}} is being a bit stubborn.--] 05:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
==Thanks for the heads up==
Thanks for the heads up. I found it funny that someone hijacked Kipling's words as praise for Pakistan. Kipling's death predated the very begining of Pakistan, which automatically negates the possibility of him praising the 60 years old state. I'll see to it that they do not put Kipling's words back in.
] 19:53, 20 October 2006 (UTC)


== Warning regarding ] ==
:Thanks. I've put the tag on ]. ] 20:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)


I have not protected the article, but be aware that excessive reversions of the article may lead to a 3RR block. Take the discussion to the talk page to avoid that. -- ''']''' 16:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
==Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale==
Thank you for your quick action. --] 20:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)


== ] Mediation ==
== Ind/Pak Nationalism ==


Please take a look at ] and begin populating the "issues to be mediated" regarding the ] article. Also, please sign below ''Parties' agreement to mediate'' stating that you "agree" to mediate or "recuse" yourself from the dispute resolution process. Thanks in advance. -- ''']''' 22:36, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Which edits are you talking about? I dont see much discussion there recently where he's been involved. ] 01:54, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
: ] 05:03, 21 October 2006 (UTC)


]--] 05:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
== Tx ==


== 2006 Dalit protests in Maharashtra ==
thanks for continuously giving me and others heads up. I think the H in your username means "Heads up". lol. :-) ] 07:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)


No matter what Indian PC media calls it shouldnt it be titled ] raher than ]?
== Re: Regarding this user ==


P.S I was just being sarcastic on the other article!
Don't worry: {{User|Gowda Hai Lowda}} has been blocked indefinitely. Thanks for the heads'-up. ~ ]]...] 16:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
]<sup>]</sup> 20:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


==] article and Vandalism==
HKelkar pls. see the InfoBox in my version and put back. You have removed most of the information from the box. Yout can revert your talk page always but instead of hiding vandalism better dont vandalise articles. Give positive inputs. You have received so many blocking messages. ] 17:38, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
::I restored the infobox dude. ] 17:41, 21 October 2006 (UTC)


==Diwali== == Reversion ==
Sorry mate, it looked like a deletion of material. You did nothing wrong and my reversion was accendental. Thanks for your understanding, ]]] <small><sup> ] . ] . ]</sup></small> 00:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Happy Diwali, and best of luck in the coming months.] <font color = "blue"><sub>]</sub></font> 21:16, 21 October 2006 (UTC)


== Your encouragement and supporting of users to add commentry... ==
'''Reply''' - thanks for alerting my atention. I have been editing on Hindi wiki for a bit and wasnt up to par with the latest nonsense running wild.] <font color = "blue"><sub>]</sub></font> 21:16, 21 October 2006 (UTC)


Do not encourage/support users to add commentary to wiki articles. I find it pretty I ironic you remove comments on talk-pages, which are directed at you, and consequently. You support users who add very silly and childish commentary into wiki articles. Please do not do this. Or I will have to issue you a warning and also mention this in your RfA pending case. You should take a break from edition wiki articles for a few months. --] 15:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
== ] ==


''You support users who add very silly and childish commentary into wiki articles.''
You have numerouse options to solve the dispute:
#For '''formal mediation''', see the ].
#For '''informal mediation''', see the ].
#The ] to '''''impose binding solutions''' to Misplaced Pages disputes. This solution may be anything up to and including a ban from editing Misplaced Pages for a period of time.''
I hope you get the dispute solved. ] 21:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)


Look who's talking! Moveon chavboy People living in glass houses shouldnt throw stones at others!
== Happy Diwali from me too ==
]<sup>]</sup> 19:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't wish anyone yesterday as I was busy celebrating, but happy Diwali! ''']''' <sup></nowiki></font>]]</nowiki></font>]]</sup> 01:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


==Indian Buddhist Revival==
== Edit warring ==
The people who are doing violence are low-caste-Hindus. They are not Buddhists. The India Buddhist population is less than 0.8%. So restrict yourself before making false claims. ] 15:38, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


== 0_0 ==
There seems to be a problem here. I know you have been warned and blocked for edit warring before. Let me be more explicit. Your recent edits to ], ], ], and ], all seem to consist of edit warring, much of which is compounded by inappropriate use of popups in content reversions, and ] accusations of vandalism. Take note: edit warring is never acceptable, and 3RR is ''omly'' an upper limit, not an entitlement to any reverts at all; rollbacks with automated edit summaries are to be used for vandalism and self-reverts only, to do otherwise is to fail to provide adequate and necessary rationale for a revert of a good faith edit, and frankly, insulting; furthermore, vandalism is a bad-faith attempt to harm the encyclopedia, which means that good faith edits you agree with do not count, and calling them vandalism is uncivil. Please modify your behavior, and keep in mind that admins will block ''before'' 3RR when it is obvious that an editor is informed that edit warring is bad, and that they have a history of doing it anyway. ]·] 08:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


Intrguing...


http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Hindushudra


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==] Redirect ==
Please have a look at ]. ] 15:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Pkulkarni
== ] ==


''I am a member of Sechdule Caste from India and <u>consider all Indians as Shudras</u>.''
You are in danger of violating the ] on Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale. Please cease further reverts or you may be ] from further editing. <!-- Template:3RR4 --> ] (]) 20:37, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
]<sup>]</sup> 19:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


== السلام علیکم ==
== Anti-Hindu ==


hello as-salam alaykum Hkelkar
You can use for the article ], I don't have time and acquaintence with editing that article to add it myself. ''']''' <sup></nowiki></font>]]</nowiki></font>]]</sup> 07:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Please forgive me, English not is perfect. You seem to write many anti Islamic remarks and have bias viewpoint towards India & Israel. Please keep your biases off Misplaced Pages جزخ اللہ خیر <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 20:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->
:I cannot comprehend the propensity you have to land yourself in trouble. We are here to make this encyclopedia and not to engage in futile discussions. Regards, &mdash; ]<span class="plainlinks"> </span> 16:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::And the relevance of this remarkable observation to the discussion at hand is... what, exactly?] 07:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


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== Thank you. ==


I'm sorry, personal attack? There was no personal attack, rather just a constructive criticism from one Misplaced Pages editor to another. Also, please refrain from deleting my posts on your talk page, as you do not own them. (You may archive this page, however.) Also, please remove your silly writings from my talk page. :) I hope you keep these (constructive) criticisms in mind!
I noticed that he had previous warnings for personal attacks, but didn't realize that he had an incident report at ]. I've followed up by listing another one (and may later go to ]). Thanks for calling that to my attention. (To be honest, I'm still kind of smarting from the incident.) -- ] 18:35, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::User warned
for making personal attacks. ] 20:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


== Hi == == I was wondering ==


Are you biased? Do you believe you are bias-free? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 23:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->
I sent it again. You can leave me a short note that you received it. --] 19:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
==Apology==
Hkelkar, I'm very sorry I accused you of Wikistalking. It was poor judgement, a poor reading of Misplaced Pages policy, and in very bad faith.


I also apologise for the initial comments I made. I assumed you were doing a complete hatchet job, I barely read the articles in question, and I misread them in my haste and uncalled-for anger to boot.
== Re: IRC chat ==


Furthermore, I attempted to pit you and Ambroodey against your fellow editors. This was not only incredibly disruptive, but trollish on every level. I tried to use a painful topic for my own purposes and forced you to defend yourself.
I've had something come up in my personal life and am going to be taking a wikibreak for a while. I won't be able to help you with this. Sorry.—]&bull;] 23:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


In reality, I have never treated you correctly. I should have responded to your second post to me as a good faith attempt to work with me. I didn't discuss the article with you, and try to work out any differences we had.
==Hi==
Take a look at ].
] 12:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
==Indian Caste System - Comment==
Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors. See ] for the guidelines on this.<!-- Template:agf1 --> This is for with comments "bad faith edits".Comment on content ] 16:25, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
* You seem to be mixing racialism,sectarianism and class with Caste which are all different social issues ]
::I have already assumed good faith with you before and look what happened, bogus AfD's Original Research from you, anti-Hindu hate speech, the list is endless.] 16:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Please stay within the frame of this article.You have consistently been using past issues to malign me.All those AFD's etc. do not only concern you.There are other stakeholders.Raking up past issues is indeed a bad practice
Please do not deliberately introduce incorrect information into articles. It is considered ]. If you would like to experiment, use the ]. Thank you.<!-- Template:verror2 -->
Your edit on Caste system in Latin America and the other entitled where in the former there is no mention of the word caste and the latter which fails WP:Reliable Source ] 16:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
==Civility needed ==
It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. ] and ] only escalate a situation; please keep calm and remember that action can be taken against other parties if necessary. Attacking another user back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors and leads to general bad feeling. Please try to remain ] with your comments. Thanks! <!-- from Template:Civil1 -->
For your comment
":The article is titled Caste so all Castes need mentioning in all countries, '''not just the people you want to kill'''.] 17:21, 24 October 2006 (UTC)"]
: Hkelkar, this personal attack comes after 2 separate last warnings Blnguyen gave you. ] ] 20:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
:: Here is the . ] ] 20:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::I'll apologize to terry, but bear in mind that he was no better with his "Shut up" quips.] 21:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


I did these things out of my arrogance and ignorance of Misplaced Pages policy and guidelines. What I did last night, however, is simply indefensible and wrong on a basic human level.
== Hinduism ==


Again, I humbly apolgise, and I sincerely pray for your happiness, if not forgiveness.
{{Hindu Links}}--] 21:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


] 08:29, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
== Blocked ==


== Buddhism in modern India ==
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As a result of your comment made at ] you have been ''']''' from editing Misplaced Pages for '''3 days'''. Misplaced Pages does not tolerate such actions.


India Buddhist revival/Dalit Buddhist Movement/Buddhist Revival in India has been moved to ]. ] | ] 15:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
See ] for more information. - ] (]) 06:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

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:As you might be aware that {{user|Pkulkarni}} and his/her socks have been blocked (see ]). ] (with his sock accounts) was the only person opposed to an article with the title Dalit Buddhist movement or Ambedkarite Buddhism. Other involved parties such as ], ], ], and ] support for separate article about Dalit Buddhist movement. So, I've moved the article to ]. The content about non-Ambedkarite Buddhism has been removed and addded to ]. Sorry for all the confusion. I hope I'm finally fixing this. Thanks. ] | ] 15:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

==Your recent changes in Gujarat Riots Page==
What can one construe of your recent edits where <s> to HRW report</s> while you have added a blog on Sulekha to the article?Please change it back to the original title and remove the link to the Blog ] 21:32, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

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* Only website whose creative expression (of its members) was published a book by Penguin

* Sorry for the first part - You did not change the title, I confused it from the edit hitsory ] 21:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
* Sulekha claims itself to be a Networking,blogging site..So I don't know if I should agree to what you say..Check what others say..] 21:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::If you think SAAG is notable put it..don't threaten..] 22:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::* So finally, you have put that - did you read the fine print on that article - '''The writer is an undergraduate from Princeton University. The views expressed are his own. Contacted at e-mail: abahl@princeton.edu.''' <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] ] 00:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)• ]) 00:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

*On the economic boycott of Muslims you removed the whole set of links from UN,NDTV,Tribune India,The Hindu - Indian National Newspaper,Report from Contemporary Conflicts charging me ""


The whole set of articles supporting that there was and is a rampant Boycott of Muslims in the BJP ruled state of Gujarat.I am copying them again.Please revert the changes back to where they were. ] 10:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
{{unblock reviewed|I apologized to User:TerryJ-Ho for making that statement shortly after making it (see diff below).Besides, Why has he not been blocked for making personal attacks against me (for which he has pointedly NOT apologized). See his edit summary below|decline=I agree 100% with . -- ] 11:00, 25 October 2006 (UTC)}}
] 06:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
My apology:


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His personal attack prior to that:


*Hkelkar - Below this is tantamount to Assuming Bad Faith and Original Research as well as threatening to use WP as a Soapbox.Make sure that you understand that I am not baiting you, just in case you wish to justify any action based on these edit of yours ] 11:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
:His contributions weren't personal attacks - he was commenting on the contributions, not the contributor. If he had have called '''you''' as a person malicious and vicious, then it would have been. However, referring to the addition of the template as the same term isn't. The second sentence of ] states: ''"Comment on content, not on the contributor."'' However, considering the apology, maybe some comprimise can be reached - I agree with you on that point, although it wasn't the best of form to try and pry out an apoligy by them. I'll make a post on the admin's talk page. Cheers, <span style="font-family: sans-serif;">''']]]'''</span> 06:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::I beg to differ. His edit summary clearly says "YOU" shut up (that's addressing me directly).] 06:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Hkelkar has been given a last warning on the 23rd for making personal attacks by ]. Before that, on 22nd he was given a warning by ] for edit-warring and terming others as vandals. He was unblocked before by Sir Nick for apologising on IRC and promising to change his behaviour. In light of all these, I felt that his recent comments are disruptive and hence the block. - ] (]) 07:01, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Let me repeat what I said on irc. I made the statement in discussion without thinking. I then realized that it was a bad thing to do and then I apologized to Terry for making it. Since blocks are supposed to be preventative it is unwarranted in this case because there is no disruption left to prevent since I apologized to him andd regarded the matter as closed.] 07:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::My contention is that the sequence of events in this case is distinctly different from the other two cases. In the other two cases I was blocked and then apologized. In this case, I made a statement, realized it was a bad thing, calmed down and made an apology, regarding the matter as closed. the sequence of events is an expression of regret for making the statement, not regret induced by a block, as it was in the last two cases. Since the regret is genuine, and the emotive state behind the statements nullified by the apology, I would say that the preventative measure is unnecessary.] 07:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


Hkelkar's comments follow:
::Further sequence of events:I went to irc and tried to reason with admins there. I was subjected to a level of incivility, mockery and borderline vicious attitude that was unprecedented on wikipedia (particularly since I maintained civility at all times) and I do not believe that admin aksi_great and user Daniel.Bryant have acted professionally in this matter and consider their conduct unbecoming of their status.
''Dude, give up the propaganda soapboxing. None of these incidents happened in the year in question.Hkelkar 11:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)And no, I will not restore your egregious misrepresentations. The "boycott" is not a riot, it's a peaceful act so it does not belong in the article. If you do that then I will post a deluge of articles showing how Muslims in Gujarat are in collusion with Pakistan, the rise of fundamentalism, and the terrorist attacks on Narendra Modi. So do not go there buddy. Hkelkar 11:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)''


* ''I'm using wikipedia as a soapbox???What the heck^H^H^H^HGehennem have you been doing?????Hkelkar 11:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)''
::I must say that I have had a very poor experience with such capricious admin who have, in my opinion, abused their authority assiduously.I ask that a completely impartial admin review this case (that means that an admin who was not involved in this or any related matter before) and analyze the past histories with a grain of salt.] 08:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, it is apparent you are sopaboxing - Please don't use this contemptuous language.These kind of "heck^H^H^H^HGehennem " don't add any value to the discussion ] 11:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Sulekha and Sabrang &ndash; any of those websites cannot be used as reliable sources. Please read ] properly. &mdash; ]<span class="plainlinks"> </span> 13:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
::Hkelkar, Only to you buddy ] 20:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


==You don't understand==
:::I'm not an admin, and never claimed to be. I fixed your factual inaccuracies. <span style="font-family: sans-serif;">''']]]'''</span> 08:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I simply never read the article, until the title changed. I still haven't read the whole thing in detail, but I believe it.
::If that is the case then your involvement in this matter is immaterial.] 08:45, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


Keep up the good work.
:::And your quest for being unblocked is becoming more and more unlikely. I am what is considered an "established editor" with 9000 edits, and calling their opnions and involvement "immaterial" is not going to help your cause. I'm sure that the next admin to come along will endorse your 3-day ban, considering your extensive history of being blocked, apologising, being given a last chance, and repeat. I think your luck has finally run out. <span style="font-family: sans-serif;">''']]]'''</span> 08:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


Sincerely,
::Well you're certainly entitled to your opinion.However, I abjectly request that you refrain from expressing it in my talk page if you have nothing constructive to contribute. I am a fairly good editor on wikipedia even if I do say so myself, since I have made a good faith effort to source all of my edits based on strict adherence to ],] and ]. I am not some troll who can be dismissed easily and can get some fairly strict admins of my acquaintance to back me up on this. I have consistently cited scholarly sources, both on and off line, and maintained a neutral narrative in all my edits. I think that a non-partisan admin will take note of this.] 08:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
] 03:47, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


== Arbitration Page and Islamism ==
:::I don't think anyone cares whether you're the greatest editor or the worst, that's not the point. The point is that you have made personal attacks towards someone, and you've done it before, repeatedly, and have been warned multiple times. It's only for three days, so look at this as an opportunity to think it over and ] from now on. - ] <sub>]</sub> 12:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


You have a section on the arbitration page in which I assume you will attempt to prove that "] supports ]..." My question to you is: so what if he supports Islamism? ] <sup>]</sup> 15:04, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


==Book Link on ]==
:::Dont worry Hkelkar, I have over 5.5k edits myself and am an "establised editor". I've confronted Akash about this and was extremely suprised by his actions. In an earlier time, I collaborated with him in a happy manner.] <font color = "blue"><sub>]</sub></font> 04:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:Regarding your most recent edits to ] and ], the link you supplied was to ], which does not satisfy the wikipedia criterion for ]. However, the book is real, published by an accredited source and the author is an accredited scholar (]) and the book is verified by a google books link. Therefore, I changed the citation accordingly (it's the same book, just from a more reliable source). See these diffs Thanks.] 03:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


Thanks
== ] ==


] 16:31, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Hkelkar, nice to know that you're contributing highly to ]. Keep it up. Remember, while removing tags, please try to find what the other party is trying to convey and consider their suggestions. I saw your edits to ] and you've worked in a very civil manner. I appreciate your good work. But remember, ]. So try to discuss with the other editors and reach a consensus. I wish you the best on your future work. Keep contributing..


== ] ==
--<b>]]] | </b><b><sup>]</sup></b>/<b><sub>]</sub></b>\<b><sup>]</sup></b> 07:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::could you speak on my behalf regarding this matter, since I have been blocked unfaily regarding this case?] 07:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


Since you commented on the Hinduism barnstar proposal I recommend you looking at the new designs introduced by ]. Thank you. ]'']'' <sup>]</sup> 22:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
==Things to do==
==Taking leeways when it suits ==
] 03:08, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


== Nice job ==


You got all of us banned for one year. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:40, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:This matter is no longer in our hands. There is no time. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:You're right. I did say that I was willing to go down with you, and although I am still willing, I never expected it to happen. I wonder if you will ever confess to being the same person. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:57, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
==Thanks==
For you addition to the ] article. I wish you the best and continue to pray. I'll be around.
Sincerely,
] 04:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:'''Addendum:''' After seeing a few recent bits of edits and discussion, I currently have much more faith in ''you'' coming back and being a great editor and ''community member'' than I do in BhaiSaab. ] 05:07, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


== No Personal Attacks ==


In case you haven't been warned already, per the evidence at ]... <small><Discussion has been archived at ]></small>


Please stop. If you continue to make personal attacks on other people{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|&#32;as you did at ]}}, you will be ] for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Thank you. <!-- Template:Npa3 --> -- ''']''' 05:34, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


== Your Comments at ] ==
===The Misplaced Pages Neo-Buddhists===
:Get diffs of their inflammatory comments and submit them to Blnguyen on his talk page.] 06:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


*It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. ] and ] only escalate a situation; please keep calm and remember that action can be taken against other parties if necessary. Attacking another user back{{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|, as you did on ],}} can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors and leads to general bad feeling. Please try to remain ] with your comments. Thanks! <!-- from Template:Civil1 --> {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|With regards to your comments on ]:&#32;}}Please see Misplaced Pages's ] policy. Comment on ''content'', not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to ] for disruption. Please ] and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. <!-- Template:No personal attacks (npa2) --> -- '''] <sup>]&nbsp;•&nbsp;]&nbsp;]</sup>''' 05:40, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Ambedkaritebuddhist:
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:*I noticed most of you've pointed out. Unfortunately, I'm not an administrator, so my warnings and advice are just that, advice. That being said, you received the warning simply because you reacted harshly to his provocation. As someone who has been in your situation before, I '''strongly''' recommend that you either ignore him completely or if absolutely necessary, open a ]. -- '''] <sup>]&nbsp;•&nbsp;]&nbsp;]</sup>''' 06:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Nothing wrong here, but it's just plain hilarious (Babasaheb Ambedkar "taught us", apparently Ambedkaritebuddhist must be really really old to have been literally taught anything by Babasaheb :-)).


== Warning ==
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It's good to know you've been warned of personal attacks before.I just informed the administrator of the xenophobia you've been promoting on the discussion page,along with personal attacks,racist comments etc.I couldn't help but noticing you and D-Boy concspiring against another Pakistani usser.I also find it curious that you and your freinds happen to post approximately around the same time when grouping against me and other Pakistani wikipedians.Is it possible that you collaborate on the phone or on MSN before posting on talk pages along with luanching personal attacks,stereotypes etc?
Bodhidhamma:
TBC


Intersting how you and your pals almost tricked me into getting myself blocked.Better luck next time.I warn you from trying similar tricks again in the future.Also dont threaten user:Saddiqui or other users by pulling them into edit wars and then trying to portray them as the instigators.Most people have alot more common sense than you think.] 05:44, 9 December 2006
===Revisit old RFCU===
:Report Mujeerkhan's sock army to an admin.] 06:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


:Yes because wikipedia is our life and we take the time and money to call each other (and all our "Hindutva POV-pushing friends" who are really strangers working on the 'pedia) long distance across the pacific ocean, rocky mountains, mississippi river just to deal with a few ]. <b>]]</b> 21:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
*> Please abstain from editing other's comments.Secondly, DO NOT call the serious issue of incivilty as "Ho Hum".


FYI, Nadirali continues to make incivil and derogatory comments in the talk page. Why does he keep trolling it despite your advice to the contrary? ] 00:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
== Incivilty ==
:I have no idea. -- ''']''' 00:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


== Speaking of Pots Calling Kettles Black ==
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:A bogus warning, as mediator agrees with me.See warnings to TerryJ-Ho by admins below.] 21:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


Since we're on the subject... it looks quite silly for you to be repeatedly updating me of {{user|Nadirali}}'s provocative statements, while proceeding to make . Please, cut it out, as I'm sure you're familiar with Misplaced Pages's ]. -- ''']''' 01:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
*> Provide proof on which mediator agreed to remove the warnings?


*> Sir Nicholas to confirm whether this is correct?Is it a specific warning to me..Why?


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copied from above ''"See warnings to TerryJ-Ho by admins below.] 21:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)"''


It was not prudent to follow my warning regarding incivility and personal attacks, with ''on my talk page''. You have certainly received sufficient warnings to warrant a block. I'll even post to ] for confirmation. -- ''']''' 02:11, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
*>I will take back any warnings if you show proof of the mediator's communication..Thanks ] 21:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


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::Support from mediator regarding Mkhan's sock army and subsequent abuse:


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You got yourself blocked just before both us will get a year-long block. C'mon yaar. ] <sup>]</sup> 03:02, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
In particular, read mediator Martinp23's comments.] 22:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


== Your message ==
*> When you removed the warnings and wrote that mediators agreed with you - you gave an impression that mediators agreed with the removal of the warning itself.From your proof it appears you are rather referring to a construed agreement that happened on an entirely different issue some times back in history.My warning to you is on using uncivil language and using words that could imply that Misplaced Pages is a battlefield (by now you should be very well aware what these mean).Mkhan or any other user may be misusing socks but that does not mean that you should use language that exacerbates the editing environment and worse then mislead others into believing what is apparently not the case.My warnings stand..you may seek any admin's help in removing them.] 10:50, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
:Based on your tendentious remarks on the Tipu Sultan mediation, I will have to say that the pot calls the kettle black, indeed.Plus, you have yet to establish by canonical arguments that the remarks were incivil. Besides, since they are not directed at anyone other than myself they do not count as incivil towards anyone (except maybe myself, and I officially forgive me :-) ).] 10:55, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
*> I have asked you on numerous occasions not to rake up historical accounts to justify your present misdeeds and for sure now that you want to turn the tables against me.What did I say on Tipu Sultan mediation that was incivil to another user:
This - "Can I ask you to refrain from terms like "Osama's pawns".These are denigrating and highly Uncivil TerryJ-Ho 22:55, 25 September "
*> You are not doing any justice to yourself by removing these templates.Only an admin can do so, your block is getting harder to be removed.] 11:10, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
::I did not remove the templates, merely unrendered them temporarily. Let's see what an admin has to say.] 12:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
::And as for who turns tables against whom, well, guess who failed in every attempt at propaganda on wikipedia (AfD of ], ] mediation etc.etc.) so far thanks to the tireless efforts of yours truly.12:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't know why you should take content issues personally.] 12:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


I am shashis, and thank you for your message on my talk page. I am replying late as I am new to wikipedia and did not know that a page such as my talk page existed, I checked it today and found your message. I am still learning the ropes here, and time constraint does not permit me to learn quickly. It seems there are many here with agendas and who do not want correct information to be presented. I have had the first experience with this Ikon ... who seems more interested in making sure that correct information is not presented. He has been playing cat and mouse game with information. Anyway, he is partially responsible for my postings. Initially I had only a passing interest in Misplaced Pages but his rude comments, accusations, and games have made me stay. I don't like bullys. I like to present correct/unbiased information, as much as I can, although it is not possible many times. Happy learning!
==Recycle bin==
You're compiling quite a long list of what to do during your block. Subhash bose used to do the exact same thing. ] <sup>]</sup> 10:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:So does TerryJ-Ho.] 17:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::I was never blocked and neither am I being suspected of being a sock, Kelkarji.I don't make a To do list either.My noting down potential sources is different to your - similarity with Netaji ] 19:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::I was inspired into it :) ] 01:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Terry was blocked for calling me a fascist. I myself have utilized a to-do list.] <font color = "blue"><sub>]</sub></font> 04:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::::What do you want to prove..Bhaisaab has not pointed out that creating such to do list is wrong.He is talking about the fact that both Netaji and HKelkar exhibit similar behaviour.Don't twist and twirl..what others mean ] 09:22, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::Stop spouting accusations. This matter has already been taken up at ] and the checkuser was not conclusive. Statements that imply that sockpuppeteering is taking place can be construed as personal attacks. Please cease this immediately. &mdash; ]<span class="plainlinks"> </span> 15:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


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==Not against me==
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HI mate, you were not rallying against me personally, but at the same time, I would like to point out that few remarks were unwarranted in ''that'' page. Keep editing and have a good day <span style="border:1px solid #000;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#ffd700;background:#000;">]</font></span> 02:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


== China as an emerging superpower ==
==Sockpuppet==
] may be a sockpuppet for ], both have the same views about India, and a habit of following me around on wikipedia. Best watch out for the sockpuppet and it's anti-India stance in articles like ] etc. I Informed you because I noticed you were editors in some of those articles as well. ] 18:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


Mamin is protecting that page from anything Anti-Chinese and seems to have a conflict of views on what a modern-day superpower should be like. He could be a good user though in the future, I simply urge you to place the page on your watchlist. I also found , it is a logical point, can we trust the figures? Anyway, I don't know how to place them in the article as it isn't a point against and some users wouldn't allow me to put such Anti-Chinese stuff as a note in the Factors in Favour section, thus spoiling China's unblemished face. ''']''' <sup></nowiki></font>]]</nowiki></font>]]</sup> 05:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
== ] ==
If you aren't signed up you can see the article . ''']''' <sup></nowiki></font>]]</nowiki></font>]]</sup> 05:59, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
::If I may comment, that article is from 1999. Seven years later after a growth of 10% each year and accession to the ], I think we see a very much different China altogether. Plus, back in 1999, there are not articles of "China as an emerging superpower", nowadays, you see a bunch of them. ] 01:23, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


== ] ==
Can you please help me find a neutral source which states that ] and following Partition riots was a form of genocide. I wrote quite a bit on it, but it was , and rightly removed considering I hadn't provided a source which claimed it was genocide. All I have found is and . Both are not neutral sources. ''']''' <sup></nowiki></font>]]</nowiki></font>]]</sup> 00:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::The problem is that the term genocide did not exist back then, so the Subodh Ghosh articles don't use the term.However, I will look into what later works say. Consider it in my todo list.] 00:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::Hey man how about your own ref page 7 below:


This case is now closed and the results have been posted above.
{{cquote|These sudden killers were ordinary men and women going about their daily lives; the turbulent spiral of a single event turned them into sadistic assassins, or stunned witnesses to the horrors of '''genocide'''.}}


*{{Userlinks|BhaiSaab}} is banned for one year.
http://www.sarai.net/journal/06_pdf/05/04_debjani.pdf
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For the Arbitration committee, ]<sup>]</sup> 06:02, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
] 00:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::Do a google books search for "Bloodbath in Bangla Desh" by Praboth Chandra. The UT library has it in storage and I have placed a request to retrieve it. It should happen in 3-5 days and then I'll let you know.Why don;t you email me from wikipedia interface?] 01:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


==Ho Hum== == Your ban ==
<nowiki>{{wr1}}</nowiki> for removing warning.] 21:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
:A bogus warning, as mediator agrees with me.See warnings to TerryJ-Ho by admins below.] 21:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


Is an appeal possible? ''']''' <sup></nowiki></font>]]</nowiki></font>]]</sup> 06:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
*> Provide proof on which mediator agreed to remove the warnings?
::Something to think about. I wish there was some way you could contact me.] 06:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Please do not edit this talk page even for discussion of an appeal. You have been ] which means you are completely prohibited from editing Misplaced Pages for one year. The only reason for a blocked editor to edit his/her talk page is to request an unblock, which isn't permitted for banned users. If you wish to appeal, you may do so by emailing Jimbo Wales directly. Please refrain from editing this page henceforth otherwise it will be locked. Also note that each time you edit, you reset your ban timer to one year from that edit. You are not required to reply to this message. --] 07:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


:::This totally sucks. Well, at least bhaisaab got banned as well.--] 07:35, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
*> Sir Nicholas to confirm whether this is correct?Is it a specific warning to me..Why?


:::::Hkelkar, just learnt about your ban. This is really sad. --<b>]]] | </b><b><sup>]</sup></b>/<b><sub>]</sub></b>\<b><sup>]</sup></b> 06:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
copied from above ''"See warnings to TerryJ-Ho by admins below.] 21:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)"''


:::::::Its perfectly alright for a user to edit his/her page. If the ban/block doesn't stop them from, they very well may. Where does it say that a user may not edit a page that they have the right and ability to? It is his user page after all. You should also try for an appeal. You're not required to respond to this message, but do so if you see fit. Also, how is that enforcable?]</span> (<small>]</small>) 23:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
*>I will take back any warnings if you show proof of the mediator's communication..Thanks ] 21:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


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== Offensive user name ==
In particular, read mediator Martinp23's comments.] 22:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


Kindly see the talk page on Hindu, a user has taken up an offensive user name. What can be done about this. Regards. ] 14:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
*> When you removed the warnings and wrote that mediators agreed with you - you gave an impression that mediators agreed with the removal of the warning itself.From your proof it appears you are rather referring to a construed agreement that happened on an entirely different issue some times back in history.My warning to you is on using uncivil language and using words that could imply that Misplaced Pages is a battlefield (by now you should be very well aware what these mean).Mkhan or any other user may be misusing socks but that does not mean that you should use language that exacerbates the editing environment and worse then mislead others into believing what is apparently not the case.My warnings stand..you may seek any admin's help in removing them.] 10:50, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
:Based on your tendentious remarks on the Tipu Sultan mediation, I will have to say that the pot calls the kettle black, indeed.Plus, you have yet to establish by canonical arguments that the remarks were incivil. Besides, since they are not directed at anyone other than myself they do not count as incivil towards anyone (except maybe myself, and I officially forgive me :-) ).] 10:55, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
*> I have asked you on numerous occasions not to rake up historical accounts to justify your present misdeeds and for sure now that you want to turn the tables against me.What did I say on Tipu Sultan mediation that was incivil to another user:
This - "Can I ask you to refrain from terms like "Osama's pawns".These are denigrating and highly Uncivil TerryJ-Ho 22:55, 25 September "
*> You are not doing any justice to yourself by removing these templates.Only an admin can do so, your block is getting harder to be removed.] 11:10, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
::I did not remove the templates, merely unrendered them temporarily. Let's see what an admin has to say.] 12:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
::And as for who turns tables against whom, well, guess who failed in every attempt at propaganda on wikipedia (AfD of ], ] mediation etc.etc.) so far thanks to the tireless efforts of yours truly.12:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
== Your warning==
:::Thanks Kelkar, I will let remain as it is.However, you should note that by reorganising the page - you have tried to disrupt the natural flow of discussion that would make it difficult for anyone to decipher and decide. ] 13:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


== آپ کو کیا ہوا یحود؟ ==
== IRC ==


اے یحود۔ آپ کو کیا ہوا؟ آپ کہان گیا؟
Hello. Are you online. Want to discuss something with you. - ] (]) 15:32, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


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{{unblock reviewed|1=bhaisaab gets away with socking all the time and I get an indefinate|decline=This is not a reason to allow you to violate policy. — ] 19:20, 22 June 2007 (UTC)}}
The ] has gone unanswered. What is your opinion on what to do next? Personally, I think the case is pretty simple. I'm asking you to provide some sources detailing the impact of the fatwa (on the supposed establishing of the castes) - all you're doing is providing sources detailing the fatwa itself that say nothing of its impact. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
:Well? ] <sup>]</sup> 20:56, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
::I'll get back to you in a couple of days concerning this matter.I suggest formal mediation (rather than informal cabal).] 20:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


{{unblock reviewed|1=What about ]? Creates a bunch of socks for edit wars and all he gets is one year.Why am I the only one to get indefinate?|decline=An indef block doesn't mean we won't consider unblocking you after a year, it just means we're under no obligation to unblock you after a year. If you don't go sockpuppeting throughout the course of the next year, I'll likely be quite happy to unblock you. I intend to protect your talk page for a couple of days short of one year now. ] 20:00, 22 June 2007 (UTC)}}
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Hkelkar, plastering the Judaism template all over the Nadira page is not helpful. The article says that she is Jewish. That's all that's needed. ] 23:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
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::The template is "Jews" AND "Judaism" so it belongs there as she's Jewish.] 23:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
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:::I really doubt it belongs in every page of a Jewish person. ] <sup>]</sup> 09:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
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Material for Muslim Caste System and Fatwa-i-Jahandari in Indian caste system

  1. Arthashastra of Kautilya and Fatawa-i-Jahandari of Ziauddin Barani : an analysis / by Arbind Das.
  2. The political theory of the Delhi sultanate: Including a translation of Ziauddin Barani's Fatawa-i Jahandari, circa, 1358-9 A.D by Mohammad Habib
  3. Foundations of Indian Political Thought by V.R. Mehta
  4. Ideology, Modernization and Politics of India by V.R. Mehta



Extra material for Christian Castes in Indian caste system

  1. http://www.newindpress.com/Newsitems.asp?ID=IET20030413133514&Topic=&Title=This%20is%20India&Page=O
  2. http://www.hindu.com/2004/04/10/stories/2004041010410300.htm
  3. http://www.dalitchristians.com/Html/DCLMtocbci.htm
  4. The Lopsided Spread of Christianity: Toward an Understanding of the Diffusion of Religions By Robert L. Montgomery
  5. Caste and Christianity: Attitudes and Policies on Caste of Anglo-Saxon Protestant Missions in India. by Duncan B. Forrester Journal of Asian Studies, Vol. 41, No. 4 (Aug., 1982), pp. 865-866

Extra material for Latin American Caste system in Caste

  1. Caste in a peasant society by Marvin Tumin
  2. Human tradition in colonial Latin America by K. Andrien (establishes history)
  3. Born in Blood and Fire: A Concise History of Latin America by J Chasteen
  4. Latin American Civilization: History and Society, 1492 to the Present B. Keen (clearly mentions caste system)
  5. Race and Nation in Modern Latin America by James Herriot et al. Talks about caste system today

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Updated DYK query On 21 September, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article poverty in Pakistan, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

User:Hkelkar put a strong effort on Poverty in Pakistan - Bakaman Bakatalk 02:32, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Barnstars ^_^

I, User:Deepak gupta, hereby award you the Exceptional Newcomer award for your contributions to South Asia-related articles. Good job!
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To Hkelkar for his contributions to articles related to Jews, India, Caste and Hinduism --NRS | /M\ 08:07, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


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For working extensively on articles related to the Indian subcontinent I, Freedom skies 17:59, 1 November 2006 (UTC), award you with this Original Barnstar.
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Project Hinduism given by Dangerous-Boy (talk · contribs)

For all the crap you go through.--D-Boy 18:51, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(policy)#Use_of_vernacular_scripts_in_India_bio_articles

interesting discussion --D-Boy 07:28, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(policy)#South_Asia_versus_Indian_sub-continent

"South Asian Caste System" anyone? Bakaman Bakatalk 17:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: BAd Faith Assumptions

Dear HKelkar, first of all thanks for pointing me to the WP:AGF and WP:Civility. I will keep them in mind. But please note that the article in question, has no reference to caste based struggle as discussed on Talk:Indian_caste_system#.22Woman_raped_on_Train_by_Dalits. I suggest keeping in mind the facts we should try to remove the misinterpretation of facts. ਅਜੈ ਪਾਲ ਸਿੰਘ ਅਟਵਾਲ 17:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Dear Hkelkar as per the article the crime has indeed been committed by dalit party activists, but where is the point of caste based struggle in it, see the news paper report ]. Didn't we discuss all this on talk page of the article in question. The article already has many short comings, why induce another. Thanks and looking for your kind cooperation ਅਜੈ ਪਾਲ ਸਿੰਘ ਅਟਵਾਲ 18:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Dear HKelkar, thanks for pointing me to Burakumin, I agree there should be no whitewashing under any circumstances to present a rosy picture. But the caste based angle in the article in question is more of criminal nature; and the power, the criminals in them, assert is that they are part of a political entity, maybe governed by people in power, who need their muscles during elections and for gathering crowds, and in return will save the criminals from the law of the land. Then by this yard stick all and any crimes committed by any one belonging to any caste, political party for whatever reason would merit a mention in the article. Just because the world caste/ ambedkar/ dalit appears in the news should not merit its mention, as I still cant see any relation to caste struggle here. ਅਜੈ ਪਾਲ ਸਿੰਘ ਅਟਵਾਲ 18:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
If a balanced view is required, then why not put up something that is actually related to article and has some element of caste struggle. What about this in a balanced manner ] in place of what is already there. I request you to present some mention of real caste struggle and not crimes by (substitute your favorite word here dalit/ brahmin/ upper caste etc). Cheers ਅਜੈ ਪਾਲ ਸਿੰਘ ਅਟਵਾਲ 19:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
And what about removing the section in question.ਅਜੈ ਪਾਲ ਸਿੰਘ ਅਟਵਾਲ 19:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. ਅਜੈ ਪਾਲ ਸਿੰਘ ਅਟਵਾਲ 19:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Urdu#trying_.22too_hard.22

Kind of amusing.--D-Boy 02:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks HKelkar.

Thanks HKelkar, I am short of words to describe the wrongs. There are some websites which allege that Hindu religion has it's roots in christainity. This is sufficiently irritating. Some anonymous editer included these (external) website links in the article. Which I removed. The same found place on talk page, seeking permission for inclusion in article by the anonymous editor. I removed these links, as through subversive means, the links were placed for viewing who view the article. The discussion for inclusion was clearly opposed by all. I removed the links from talk page. There was no objection from anyone. After some days Abecedare restored the links. I remove them, he reverts and give me a 3RR notice. Then, he goes for admin community views. I fail to express and object to the subversive way. I fail to understand the intention of Abecedare. Should the Misplaced Pages policy conveniently interpreted and used for nefarious activities?

swadhyayee 04:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

New Rock Star

Hi Hkelkar, I saw the article and the latest edits. We must try to constructively discuss the changes and work on improving the article. Currently, it looks in a mess. The section on Hindutva views and Dalit views is unreferenced and POV. Do all Dalits have the same view. And whose view is it actually. I think, we need a cited historical scholarly view.

Anyway, we'll talk more on that. I have repaired the e-mail link. It's working now. Mail me. Bye for now. Keep rockin' --NRS | /M\ 07:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Is this true HKelkar? I would never like anyone to be blocked for an year and would also not like someone to give such cause. God Bless You. swadhyayee 11:02, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


Refs

Note: These refs are for my research purposes only, please do not type between them.

These should provide some perspective on why many Pakistani editors are arguing over Indian history on wikipedia.
School Books That Teach Children To Hate in Pakistan:
The Menace of Sectarian Education,Pakistan's NW Province Makes Quran Lessons Compulsory - From the Wall Street Journal
The subtle subversion:Islamic Fundamentalism and Brainwashing in Pakistan (news today)
Pakistani social studies textbooks creating havoc:
Pakistan, A Failed State (BBC)
Pakistan once again terrorism central
Just whose side is Pakistan really on?
SECTARIAN IDENTITIES OF MUSLIMS:" a house divided” - by R Upadhyay
MINORITY SEPARATISM IN INDIA: THE MUSLIM MINORITY - B.Raman
Of the 500 missing Pakistanis, 375 are in Gujarat —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hkelkar (talk • contribs) 21:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

ArbComm

Hi Hkelkar - there's a post at WP:AN about your current editing - I've also sent you an email about it. It's probably best if the only editing you do is within your user-space, at least until December 19th. Just create sub-pages if you want, to work on additions to articles. Thanks Martinp23 19:31, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Category:Indus Valley sites

This pak as been untagging indus valley with the indian tag on it. Could use some help on this. Szhaider (talk · contribs) seems to be behind it. He takes the tag off harappa civilization and other indic historic sites as well.--D-Boy 21:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Indian caste system

I didn't realize there was more about mobility in the criticism section. Thanks for moving it up. BhaiSaab 23:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

You have violated WP:3RR by removing part of what I just added, i.e. "individual mobility among castes was generally rare." I ask that you undo this. BhaiSaab 23:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Nope, no 3RR here. I'll double check my edits though since you say that. BhaiSaab 23:24, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Aw. He came back.--D-Boy 01:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
You problably should have called the FBI on him. I know I would have.--D-Boy 02:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(policy)#Use_of_vernacular_scripts_in_India_bio_articles_-_2

Voting on the use of indic scripts.--D-Boy 01:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

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How does it work? Szhaider (talk · contribs) is being a bit stubborn.--D-Boy 05:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Warning regarding Indian caste system

I have not protected the article, but be aware that excessive reversions of the article may lead to a 3RR block. Take the discussion to the talk page to avoid that. -- tariqabjotu 16:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Indian caste system Mediation

Please take a look at Talk:Indian caste system/Mediation (December 2006) and begin populating the "issues to be mediated" regarding the Indian caste system article. Also, please sign below Parties' agreement to mediate stating that you "agree" to mediate or "recuse" yourself from the dispute resolution process. Thanks in advance. -- tariqabjotu 22:36, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Lists of people by caste--D-Boy 05:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

2006 Dalit protests in Maharashtra

No matter what Indian PC media calls it shouldnt it be titled 2006 Dalit riots in Maharashtra raher than 2006 Dalit protests in Maharashtra?

P.S I was just being sarcastic on the other article! अमेय आर्यन DaBrood 20:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


Reversion

Sorry mate, it looked like a deletion of material. You did nothing wrong and my reversion was accendental. Thanks for your understanding, Dfrg.msc 00:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Your encouragement and supporting of users to add commentry...

Do not encourage/support users to add commentary to wiki articles. I find it pretty I ironic you remove comments on talk-pages, which are directed at you, and consequently. You support users who add very silly and childish commentary into wiki articles. Please do not do this. Or I will have to issue you a warning and also mention this in your RfA pending case. You should take a break from edition wiki articles for a few months. --StreetScholar 15:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

You support users who add very silly and childish commentary into wiki articles.

Look who's talking! Moveon chavboy People living in glass houses shouldnt throw stones at others! अमेय आर्यन DaBrood 19:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Indian Buddhist Revival

The people who are doing violence are low-caste-Hindus. They are not Buddhists. The India Buddhist population is less than 0.8%. So restrict yourself before making false claims. Pkulkarni 15:38, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

0_0

Intrguing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Hindushudra

&

http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Pkulkarni

I am a member of Sechdule Caste from India and consider all Indians as Shudras. अमेय आर्यन DaBrood 19:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

السلام علیکم

hello as-salam alaykum Hkelkar Please forgive me, English not is perfect. You seem to write many anti Islamic remarks and have bias viewpoint towards India & Israel. Please keep your biases off Misplaced Pages جزخ اللہ خیر —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Esteqlal (talk • contribs) 20:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

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I'm sorry, personal attack? There was no personal attack, rather just a constructive criticism from one Misplaced Pages editor to another. Also, please refrain from deleting my posts on your talk page, as you do not own them. (You may archive this page, however.) Also, please remove your silly writings from my talk page. :) I hope you keep these (constructive) criticisms in mind!

User warned

for making personal attacks. Hkelkar 20:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering

Are you biased? Do you believe you are bias-free? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.163.151.18 (talk) 23:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

Apology

Hkelkar, I'm very sorry I accused you of Wikistalking. It was poor judgement, a poor reading of Misplaced Pages policy, and in very bad faith.

I also apologise for the initial comments I made. I assumed you were doing a complete hatchet job, I barely read the articles in question, and I misread them in my haste and uncalled-for anger to boot.

Furthermore, I attempted to pit you and Ambroodey against your fellow editors. This was not only incredibly disruptive, but trollish on every level. I tried to use a painful topic for my own purposes and forced you to defend yourself.

In reality, I have never treated you correctly. I should have responded to your second post to me as a good faith attempt to work with me. I didn't discuss the article with you, and try to work out any differences we had.

I did these things out of my arrogance and ignorance of Misplaced Pages policy and guidelines. What I did last night, however, is simply indefensible and wrong on a basic human level.

Again, I humbly apolgise, and I sincerely pray for your happiness, if not forgiveness.

NinaEliza 08:29, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Buddhism in modern India

India Buddhist revival/Dalit Buddhist Movement/Buddhist Revival in India has been moved to Buddhism in modern India. utcursch | talk 15:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

As you might be aware that Pkulkarni (talk · contribs) and his/her socks have been blocked (see Talk:Dalit Buddhist movement). User:Pkulkarni (with his sock accounts) was the only person opposed to an article with the title Dalit Buddhist movement or Ambedkarite Buddhism. Other involved parties such as User:Hkelkar, User:AMbroodEY, Nat Krause, and NinaEliza support for separate article about Dalit Buddhist movement. So, I've moved the article to Dalit Buddhist movement. The content about non-Ambedkarite Buddhism has been removed and addded to Buddhism in India. Sorry for all the confusion. I hope I'm finally fixing this. Thanks. utcursch | talk 15:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Your recent changes in Gujarat Riots Page

What can one construe of your recent edits where - where you have 1. removed the title of the HRW report entitled "We have no orders to save you.. to HRW report while you have added a blog on Sulekha to the article?Please change it back to the original title and remove the link to the Blog MerryJ-Ho 21:32, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

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If you think SAAG is notable put it..don't threaten..MerryJ-Ho 22:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • So finally, you have put that link - did you read the fine print on that article - The writer is an undergraduate from Princeton University. The views expressed are his own. Contacted at e-mail: abahl@princeton.edu. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TerryJ-Ho (talk MerryJ-Ho 00:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)• contribs) 00:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

The whole set of articles supporting that there was and is a rampant Boycott of Muslims in the BJP ruled state of Gujarat.I am copying them again.Please revert the changes back to where they were. MerryJ-Ho 10:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

After riots, it’s economic boycott call -

  • Hkelkar - Below this is tantamount to Assuming Bad Faith and Original Research as well as threatening to use WP as a Soapbox.Make sure that you understand that I am not baiting you, just in case you wish to justify any action based on these edit of yours MerryJ-Ho 11:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Hkelkar's comments follow: Dude, give up the propaganda soapboxing. None of these incidents happened in the year in question.Hkelkar 11:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)And no, I will not restore your egregious misrepresentations. The "boycott" is not a riot, it's a peaceful act so it does not belong in the article. If you do that then I will post a deluge of articles showing how Muslims in Gujarat are in collusion with Pakistan, the rise of fundamentalism, and the terrorist attacks on Narendra Modi. So do not go there buddy. Hkelkar 11:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm using wikipedia as a soapbox???What the heck^H^H^H^HGehennem have you been doing?????Hkelkar 11:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it is apparent you are sopaboxing - Please don't use this contemptuous language.These kind of "heck^H^H^H^HGehennem " don't add any value to the discussion MerryJ-Ho 11:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Sulekha and Sabrang – any of those websites cannot be used as reliable sources. Please read WP:RS properly. — Nearly Headless Nick 13:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Hkelkar, Only to you buddy MerryJ-Ho 20:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

You don't understand

I simply never read the article, until the title changed. I still haven't read the whole thing in detail, but I believe it.

Keep up the good work.

Sincerely, NinaEliza 03:47, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration Page and Islamism

You have a section on the arbitration page in which I assume you will attempt to prove that "User:TerryJ-Ho supports Islamism..." My question to you is: so what if he supports Islamism? BhaiSaab 15:04, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Book Link on Persecution of Hindus

Regarding your most recent edits to anti-Hindu and Persecution of Hindus, the link you supplied was to Hindu Unity, which does not satisfy the wikipedia criterion for WP:Reliable Sources. However, the book is real, published by an accredited source and the author is an accredited scholar (Gurbachan Singh Talib) and the book is verified by a google books link. Therefore, I changed the citation accordingly (it's the same book, just from a more reliable source). See these diffs Thanks.Hkelkar 03:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

209.197.162.110 16:31, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Barnstar_and_award_proposals/New_Proposals#Hinduism_WikiProject_Award

Since you commented on the Hinduism barnstar proposal I recommend you looking at the new designs introduced by User:Priyanath. Thank you. Gizza 22:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Taking leeways when it suits

Nice job

You got all of us banned for one year. BhaiSaab 00:40, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

This matter is no longer in our hands. There is no time. BhaiSaab 00:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
You're right. I did say that I was willing to go down with you, and although I am still willing, I never expected it to happen. I wonder if you will ever confess to being the same person. BhaiSaab 00:57, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

For you addition to the Dalit Buddhist Movement article. I wish you the best and continue to pray. I'll be around. Sincerely, NinaEliza 04:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Addendum: After seeing a few recent bits of edits and discussion, I currently have much more faith in you coming back and being a great editor and community member than I do in BhaiSaab. NinaEliza 05:07, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

No Personal Attacks

In case you haven't been warned already, per the evidence at WP:ANI#Xenophobia... <Discussion has been archived at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive155#Xenophobia>

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Your Comments at WP:AN/I

  • It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. Personal attacks and disruptive comments only escalate a situation; please keep calm and remember that action can be taken against other parties if necessary. Attacking another user back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors and leads to general bad feeling. Please try to remain civil with your comments. Thanks! Please see Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. -- Chabuk 05:40, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  • I noticed most of you've pointed out. Unfortunately, I'm not an administrator, so my warnings and advice are just that, advice. That being said, you received the warning simply because you reacted harshly to his provocation. As someone who has been in your situation before, I strongly recommend that you either ignore him completely or if absolutely necessary, open a Request for Comment/User. -- Chabuk 06:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Warning

It's good to know you've been warned of personal attacks before.I just informed the administrator of the xenophobia you've been promoting on the discussion page,along with personal attacks,racist comments etc.I couldn't help but noticing you and D-Boy concspiring against another Pakistani usser.I also find it curious that you and your freinds happen to post approximately around the same time when grouping against me and other Pakistani wikipedians.Is it possible that you collaborate on the phone or on MSN before posting on talk pages along with luanching personal attacks,stereotypes etc?

Intersting how you and your pals almost tricked me into getting myself blocked.Better luck next time.I warn you from trying similar tricks again in the future.Also dont threaten user:Saddiqui or other users by pulling them into edit wars and then trying to portray them as the instigators.Most people have alot more common sense than you think.Nadirali 05:44, 9 December 2006

Yes because wikipedia is our life and we take the time and money to call each other (and all our "Hindutva POV-pushing friends" who are really strangers working on the 'pedia) long distance across the pacific ocean, rocky mountains, mississippi river just to deal with a few trolls. Bakaman 21:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

FYI, Nadirali continues to make incivil and derogatory comments in the talk page. Why does he keep trolling it despite your advice to the contrary? Hkelkar 00:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea. -- tariqabjotu 00:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of Pots Calling Kettles Black

Since we're on the subject... it looks quite silly for you to be repeatedly updating me of Nadirali (talk · contribs)'s provocative statements, while proceeding to make comments like these. Please, cut it out, as I'm sure you're familiar with Misplaced Pages's civility policy. -- tariqabjotu 01:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


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It was not prudent to follow my warning regarding incivility and personal attacks, with this comment on my talk page. You have certainly received sufficient warnings to warrant a block. I'll even post to WP:ANI for confirmation. -- tariqabjotu 02:11, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

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Request reason:

It was hardly an incivil comment, and whom was it atatcking? It was an observation based on frustration of tendentious editors who get a free pass on wikipedia while sincere users who strive for accuracy get insulted, harassed, harangued and punished.

Decline reason:

It is uncivil to describe a fellow editor as "spreading baseless propaganda," and a violation of NPA to suggest one is suffering "delusions of religious supremacy" or displaying "narrow tribalist ethnocentrism". Declined -- Rockpocket 02:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

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You got yourself blocked just before both us will get a year-long block. C'mon yaar. BhaiSaab 03:02, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Your message

I am shashis, and thank you for your message on my talk page. I am replying late as I am new to wikipedia and did not know that a page such as my talk page existed, I checked it today and found your message. I am still learning the ropes here, and time constraint does not permit me to learn quickly. It seems there are many here with agendas and who do not want correct information to be presented. I have had the first experience with this Ikon ... who seems more interested in making sure that correct information is not presented. He has been playing cat and mouse game with information. Anyway, he is partially responsible for my postings. Initially I had only a passing interest in Misplaced Pages but his rude comments, accusations, and games have made me stay. I don't like bullys. I like to present correct/unbiased information, as much as I can, although it is not possible many times. Happy learning!

best shashis —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shashis (talk • contribs) 02:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

China as an emerging superpower

Mamin is protecting that page from anything Anti-Chinese and seems to have a conflict of views on what a modern-day superpower should be like. He could be a good user though in the future, I simply urge you to place the page on your watchlist. I also found this, it is a logical point, can we trust the figures? Anyway, I don't know how to place them in the article as it isn't a point against and some users wouldn't allow me to put such Anti-Chinese stuff as a note in the Factors in Favour section, thus spoiling China's unblemished face. Nobleeagle 05:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC) If you aren't signed up you can see the article here as well. Nobleeagle 05:59, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

If I may comment, that article is from 1999. Seven years later after a growth of 10% each year and accession to the World Trade Organization, I think we see a very much different China altogether. Plus, back in 1999, there are not articles of "China as an emerging superpower", nowadays, you see a bunch of them. 128.101.105.79 01:23, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

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Your ban

Is an appeal possible? Nobleeagle 06:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Something to think about. I wish there was some way you could contact me.Hkelkar 06:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
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This totally sucks. Well, at least bhaisaab got banned as well.--D-Boy 07:35, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Hkelkar, just learnt about your ban. This is really sad. --NRS | /M\ 06:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Its perfectly alright for a user to edit his/her page. If the ban/block doesn't stop them from, they very well may. Where does it say that a user may not edit a page that they have the right and ability to? It is his user page after all. You should also try for an appeal. You're not required to respond to this message, but do so if you see fit. Also, how is that enforcable?Darth Zantetsuken (Grovel/Beg/Praise) 23:17, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

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Offensive user name

Kindly see the talk page on Hindu, a user has taken up an offensive user name. What can be done about this. Regards. 59.178.10.68 14:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

آپ کو کیا ہوا یحود؟

اے یحود۔ آپ کو کیا ہوا؟ آپ کہان گیا؟

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bhaisaab gets away with socking all the time and I get an indefinate

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This is not a reason to allow you to violate policy. — Yamla 19:20, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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What about Siddiqui? Creates a bunch of socks for edit wars and all he gets is one year.Why am I the only one to get indefinate?

Decline reason:

An indef block doesn't mean we won't consider unblocking you after a year, it just means we're under no obligation to unblock you after a year. If you don't go sockpuppeting throughout the course of the next year, I'll likely be quite happy to unblock you. I intend to protect your talk page for a couple of days short of one year now. Nick 20:00, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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