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== June 2023 ==
This is from {{citation |last=Fergusson |first=James |authorlink=James Fergusson (architect) |title=Tree and serpent Worship, or illustrations of mythology and art in India |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=M5FDAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA46 |year=1868 |publisher=Allen|pp=46-47}}
{{talkquote|''It is not, however, only in the valley that our Chinese traveller (]) repeats the Hindu legends about serpents and their power, but at every stage of his journey from Cabul to Cashmere, he everywhere finds some spot where a dragon king or Naga Raja resided, and played an important part in the legendary history of the land.'' These legends, as might be expected, were found in the seventh century very much altered from their more primitive forms, but they are interesting, in the first place, as showing how ''essentially the north-west corner of India was at one time the seat of Serpent Worship, and also, in what manner it was eventually—except perhaps in Cashmere—amalgamated with Buddhism.'' (p.46)}}


{{ping|Fowler&fowler}} Shouldn't we include the phrase ''Indian-administered'' somewhere in the lead since we have ] written there? - ] (]) 10:56, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
{{talkquote|These accounts by native authorities are fully confirmed by such scanty notices as we glean from classical authorities; ''] tells us that two ambassadors sent to the king of Cashmere by Alexander, brought back news that the king of the country cherished two large serpents of fabulous dimensions.'' Maximinius of Tyre tells us, that when Alexander entered India, Taxilus (King of Taxila) showed him a serpent of enormous size which he nourished with great care and revered as the image of the god whom the Greek writers, from the similitude of his attributes, called Dionysus or Bacchus. (p.47)}}


:Yes. I'll take a look. Thanks. ]] 11:42, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
{{talkquote|The latest authority we have, is that of ], who tells us that in the reign Of Akbar (1556—1605) there were in Cashmere 45 places dedicated to the worship of Siva, 64 to Vishou, 3 to Brahma, and 22 to Durga, but there were 700 places in the valley where there were carved images of snakes which the inhabitants worshipped. (p.47)}}


== September 2023 ==
{{talkquote|''All this is fully confirmed by the architecture of the valley; with very few exceptions, all the ancient temples of Cashmere seem to have been devoted to Serpent Worship.'' They stand in square courts which were capable of being flooded and were crossed by light bridges of stone, some of which still remain. Even at the present day some of these temples are unapproachable without wading, in consequence of the water which surrounds them, and all might be rendered so by a slight repair to their waterworks. There are, of course, no images in the sanctuaries which long prevented antiquaries from perceiving the form of faith to which they were dedicated. But where the deity is a living god and mortal, when he and his worshippers pay the debt of nature, they leave no material trace to recall the memory of their past existence. (p.47)}}
== Why is a group photo of prostitutes of ambiguous origins from 19th century is being shown as "representative" of Kashmiris ==


Why is a group photo of ambiguous origin prostitutes (or Nautch girls) in 19th century Srinagar are being shown as an example of "Kashmiris". These prostitutes were always of cosmopolitan origins from various regions of South Asia and were related to prostitutes found in neighboring kingdoms like Punjab, Delhi and Lucknow etc. These were never of any kind of pure origin. Only farmers of Kashmir valley living in the villages of Kashmir valley since centuries are the true representative of the ethnicity called "Kashmiris".
-- ] (]) 10:14, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

== January 2024 ==

Christianity should be added as a religious 'Minority' following Sikhism in the list. https://www.census2011.co.in/data/religion/state/1-jammu-and-kashmir.html

I don't know how to make edits and would appreciate someone who does know how to edit, to please do so. ] (]) 14:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

== Census 2011 ==

{{ping|C1MM}} Hi, could you correct the 2011 census data according to the new administrative union territory. Thanks. - ] (]) 13:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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June 2023

@Fowler&fowler: Shouldn't we include the phrase Indian-administered somewhere in the lead since we have Kashmir Valley written there? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:56, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes. I'll take a look. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:42, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

September 2023

Why is a group photo of prostitutes of ambiguous origins from 19th century is being shown as "representative" of Kashmiris

Why is a group photo of ambiguous origin prostitutes (or Nautch girls) in 19th century Srinagar are being shown as an example of "Kashmiris". These prostitutes were always of cosmopolitan origins from various regions of South Asia and were related to prostitutes found in neighboring kingdoms like Punjab, Delhi and Lucknow etc. These were never of any kind of pure origin. Only farmers of Kashmir valley living in the villages of Kashmir valley since centuries are the true representative of the ethnicity called "Kashmiris".

January 2024

Christianity should be added as a religious 'Minority' following Sikhism in the list. https://www.census2011.co.in/data/religion/state/1-jammu-and-kashmir.html

I don't know how to make edits and would appreciate someone who does know how to edit, to please do so. Teresa Gill (talk) 14:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Census 2011

@C1MM: Hi, could you correct the 2011 census data according to the new administrative union territory. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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