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	== Translation ==
	Can somebody translate that second paragraph from Portuguese? It's been here since last December! -- ] 02:47, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
	:done ] 16:26, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

	== Extinct modalities deleted ==
	Why have the extinct modalities, and winnings from them, been deleted from Sporting's record? History is just supossed to be erased??! I don't get it. One's wins aren't real achievments because the club has stopped the modality?? Really, I'm stunned..


	I completely agree.
	Can someone PLEASE add the main titles of the Extinct Modalities. This is perhaps on of the main problems of this not so well written article about this great team.
	] (]) 14:15, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

	== Sporting's uniforms ==
	I think we should change the colours of the uniforms represented in the pictures, it doesn't look very correct.
	We could also post the actual uniform picture and all other old uniforms.

	== Response ==
	The uniforms are fine. They are the new 2006/2007 Sporting official uniforms changed because of the new contract with Puma. I agree with having pictures of them, but until now there are no pictures available. We have to wait till the start of the season

	] 16:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

	:what about all old uniforms?

	== Shorts ==

	The shorts' colors are wrong, they should be black instead of white!

	== Transfers ==
	I have removed the recent transfers section, as ].] 19:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

	== Something wrong with the flag of Slovakia ==
	I cannot fix the flag of Slovakia. On the left of the player Marian Had is not the flag, only words with link. By hit on this link, the SVG-graphic loads. Whta happened? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]){{#if:14:25, August 20, 2007 (UTC)\| 14:25, August 20, 2007 (UTC)}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== ] ==
	] with the text :

	:'''Adrien Sebastian Perruchet Silva''' is a ] ] from ] ] in ] ]. He is currently on the books at ], after graduating in the youth academy.

	:Having performed very well in a couple of pre-season friendlies the youngster is being touted as one of the brightest portuguese prospects for the coming years.

	is currrently up for deletion. ] (]) 08:04, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

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	== Transfers 2008/2009 ==
	Is there any confirmation for buying Marat Izmailov - Lokomotiv Moscow for 4.5 million €? I've found only rumours about it, but no info, that the deal is finished and contract is signed. Can you provide any references? ] (]) 19:43, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

	== Wrong reference - André Martins ==

	The André Martins link is wrong. That's not the André Martins who's playing in Sporting U19 Squad. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:54, 2 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== Young Squads ==

	Shouldn't the young squads section be moved to Academia de Alcochete article? Sporting is the only team with a young squads section, we should move it to an academy article(in this case Academia de Alcochete), like most of the english clubs articles. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:19, 17 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== referred to incorrectly.. ==

	how is calling Sporting, Sporting Lisbon incorrect so to speak?

	They are based in Lison, hence Sporting Lisbon. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:26, 28 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Because it's not actually part of their name. It's like calling ] "Glasgow Rangers", which is also sometimes done. ] (]) 00:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
	::A colloquial name for a team doesn't have to be part of their official name though. Many colloquialisms are technically inaccurate, so stating that Sporting are "referred to coloquially as Sporting, Sporting CP or, erroneously, Sporting Lisbon" is somewhat awkward usage in my opinion. ] (]) 21:59, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
	:::Although I agree with your first statement, the fact is the club in question should not be referred to by the expression "Sporting Lisbon". I personally don't refer to Everton as "Everton Liverpool" or to Juventus as "Juventus Turin". It's an usual custom in Britain to refer to foreign clubs (whose name isn't inherited from the city in which they're geographically located) by appending their respective city as a suffix. In this particular case, the club should be referred to as "Sporting" or "Sporting Portugal".] (]) 11:19, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
	"Sporting Lisbon" is what they are commonly known as in the UK, regardless of whether it's official or not. Similar to "Inter Milan". <span style="font-family: Verdana;">] • ]</span> 10:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

	== Use of Sporting Clube de Portugal / Sporting Lisbon ==

	Does anyone know the correct way to refer to the club in links to this page?
	Sporting Clube de Portugal may be correctly technically but the club is known almost exclusively as Sporting Lisbon in England. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:02, 11 November 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:This same issue seems to be causing debate now between myself and ] - the text read
	:''and often incorrectly as Sporting Lisbon by English-speaking nations''
	:I dispute that this is incorrect, so have reworded the sentence.
	:My reasons are as follows:
	:* This is the common name used across the English speaking world, so even though it is not the "official" name, it is not incorrect. Language is defined by its usage. And on English Misplaced Pages we have the ] policy.
	:* The argument is that we don't say "Chelsea London" to denote ]. Well, we don't in English, but in Polish, the club really is known widely as "Chelsea Londyn" and that's where the Polish article on the subject is located: .
	:* The official club website acknowledges that the club is widely known internationally as "Sporting Lisbon" - it does not suggest that such usage is "incorrect". I've included that as a reference in the article.
	:Thanks! ] (]) 09:35, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

	::The club can be refered to as any name anyone wants to refer it to. That, I think, is not disputed here. As such, one of the links to call the page can be Sporting Lisbon.
	::What I assume is more important is how the club is wrongly called. Sporting Clube de Portugal has, since being first labelled "Sporting Lisbon", tryed to get rid of the name and has reached some agreement within UEFA on that matter. That is encyclopedia material. Someone researching for the club must know how the club itself treats the incorrect name its being called, and that the well-known-abroad name is in fact wrong.
	::I believe that the '''''and often incorrectly as Sporting Lisbon by English-speaking nations''''' statement is a good introduction to letting people know how to correctly speak of the club (or anything for that matter) even if they choose not to.
	::] (]) 01:23, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

	:::Hi Ricardo. Do you know of any outside sources (e.g. newspaper articles, websites, books) which mention the fact that the club does not wish to be known by the name "Sporting Lisbon"? I notice that the ] section does not currently have any citations. A sensible compromise here for the introduction to the article might be to state that the name is widely used in English countries but that the club does not wish to be known by that name. I would like a reference for that, though, because otherwise it sounds like ]. Thanks — ] (]) 10:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

	::::Agree with ], have requested references in that section of the article. What ] described as "correct" is not the top issue here. Names commonly established in English are used, with good reason. Since Sporting CP is barely used in English-language media, it is illogical to refer to the club in that way. <font face="Century Gothic">]]</font> 21:01, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

	A simple query in any search engine shows that "Sporting Lisbon" is commonly used in the English-speaking world. ] ] (]) 18:30, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

	== Incorrect information about their European titles ==

	"Sporting is, after Barcelona, the club with more European titles across all of the disciplines in which the club competes."
	This information is constantly being input in the Sporting page, but it's not correct. And the link related to that information has no reference to it!!!

	Sporting is not even the Portuguese club with most European titles in the disciplines the club competes, the club is Maratona Clube de Portugal. And there are some more European clubs with most titles than Sporting, as Luch Moscow, Real Madrid... ] (]) 10:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
	<span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:06, 25 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Hy Paulojmartins, after a small amount of research I have come to a conclusion that the information could be innaccurate, but not in the way you intend it to be.
	:Information at Sporting Clube de Portugal's website states that Sporting is the third club with more European Cups in all disciplines , after Barcelona and Real Madrid. Here, refering only to wins in major European championships.
	:What I believe is in fact correct is that Sporting, after Barcelona, is the club with more European Titles across all disciplines. This, I assume, would include all medals and other titles in all sports the club participated. In the same way Sporting is probably the European club with most Titles across every sport (here including World titles), after Barcelona. All of Sporting Clube de Portugal's medals and titles can be checked at .
	:] (]) 04:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

	RicardoFachada, either way the information is incorrect. And none of the sources sustain it. One of the links you refer is about medals won by Sporting athletes representing their country not Sporting, I believe those are not Sporting titles. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:True, and that's why I am removing that information. ] (]) 13:38, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

	== Olympic gold medals (Continental and Global) ==

	"(...) the teams and the athletes of Sporting won 50 Olympic gold medals (Continental and Global)"

	What does this means? Continental and Global Olympic gold medals!?

	Sporting athletes have won 1 Olympic Gold Medal. ] (]) 10:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)<span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:12, 25 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== Requested move ==

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	:Shouldn't it be "Sporting Lisbon"? That's its usual English name.--] (]) 13:05, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
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	== Sporting_Clube_de_Portugal#Museum ==

	It is highly unclear what is ment with the sentence under "museum". Can someone make something readable out of this? ''Sporting Club of Portugal have in exposition in is Museum situaded in Stadium of Jose Alvalade more than 16.000 Cups and Trofees.''--] (]) 12:13, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

	== Biased Content ==

	The contents of this article are clearly biased. There are numerous references to Olympic titles that go without official support. There is no mention about the club's dark ages. In a period of 40 years the club won less than 10 football titles. There is no substantiation of any of the reported numbers. Everything seems to be written with an obsessive focus on big numbers and empty european references of glory such as the vague "has more european titles than most clubs in the world", "more than x titles", "more than x cups", etc. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:46, 19 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:This article is biased indeed. ] (]) 13:36, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

	== False information ==

	This article presents false information sourced by the club itself and its fans. ] (]) 13:36, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

	== Honours ==

	Archimedes1973 reverted me without justification, he's doing ]. ] (]) 13:58, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

	Sporting didn't win Intertoto. Sporting was runner-up twice in third most important competition, the league cup. Regional honours are unsourced. ] (]) 13:59, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

	== Lie ==

	''3.5 million fans spread across the globe'' The source doesn't support the claim. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 06:46, 22 December 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	Maybe some unbiased reliable volunteer should do a bit of canvassing throughout all the "Casas do Sporting CP" spread all over the world to ascertain with some degree of certainty what the approximate number is. ] (]) 14:28, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

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	== Logo ==

	{{user\|Pddalmeida}} has been adding a different logo over and over for no reason. This is getting tiresome. ] (]) 14:31, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
	:Yeah, the logo ] is adding isn't the right colour. I have access to the correct logo, I'll upload it. – ]] 17:08, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

	== Merger proposal ==

	'']'' clearly fails ], just like '']'' did (see the ]). It should be merged into this article. ] (]) 17:11, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

	== Requested move 31 July 2017 ==

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	– Per ] and ]. This request was made before years ago, but no one voted on it, so I'm requesting it again. Sporting Lisbon is another option if people think that is better. ] (]) 02:31, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
	* <del>'''Oppose'''</del>'''Support''' Where are the references in support of ]? Their website states Sporting Clube de Portugal as site title and in footer. Same with FB . ] (]) 03:34, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
	:{{reply\|Hmlarson}} the sources you linked are primary ones; it doesn't really matter what they use (in Twitter they display "Sporting CP"), for example, Benfica's website also presents the club's full name despite being internationally known as "S.L. Benfica" (SL Benfica), or just "Benfica". ] (]) 15:06, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
	:: {{reply\|SLBedit}} Hmm... well, based on the actual examples you provided below, I'll change my indication. Maybe next time, you'll include them in the nom as your basis/evidence per ]. ] (]) 00:27, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
	* '''Support''' "Sporting CP" is the common name used on Misplaced Pages. It's also used on the following websites: FIFA, UEFA, ESPN, Goal.com, Soccerway, Transfermarkt, Macron, World Football, European Handball Federation etc. ("Sporting Lisbon" is used on many English websites.)" ] (]) 15:06, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
	* '''Support''' as the "CP" term is like the "FC" of Barcelona or the "AC" of Milan. ] (]) 13:48, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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	:Post closing comment/rebuttal: used Sporting Lisbon, Sporting Clube de Portugal; Sporting CP may be also used by the media, but not the only common name ESPN used. For consistency, why not ] (with dot) to match ] and other Portuguese club in the cat {{c\|Football clubs in Portugal}} (except ])? ] ]] 02:38, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

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	== Honours; Is being runner up an honour or not? ==

	According to logic, every conqueror has vanquished an opponent and the vanquished deserves as much mention as the conqueror. Misplaced Pages is supposed to be an impartial verifiable fact depository. In sports every winner defeated the opponent and in a elimination tournament we need two opponents in a final. However, according to some, finishing second is not worth mentioning as an honour. Following that logic, why give finalists a silver medal? Should we lobby against such a recognition? Who needs runner ups... Are we going to wipe out all the silver and bronze medals from competition all together? Who are these administrators, policeman and censors that decide unilaterally what is an honour or not? I say, reaching a final or finishing second or third is an Honour worth mentioning. ] (]) 14:19, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
	:Finishing second in the league is not considered an honour. When runner-up honours are mentioned in the article's body, they can be removed from Honours section. You can get more information at ]. ] (]) 16:07, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

	Hello, I did check the place you suggested. There's no official policy regarding omission of a tournament runner up... Besides, I wasn't talking about a league as in a national championship like Serie A, La Liga, Ligue 1 etc, I'm referring to knock out competitions like FA Cup, Taça de Portugal, Europa League and so forth. In this case the format is designed to create two streams that lead to two finalists and that on its own is already a milestone for any participant. As such, the organizers issue finalist medals to the losing participants precisely to recognize the losers importance. Although you say if mention is already made in the main article, there's no need to listed in the honours section... It sounds more like personal opinion than general consensus. In fact "runner up" credits shown in the honours sections are more common than otherwise and rightly so, for once it shows a quick to glean summary of the entity's history highlights. Anyway, it seems you have the knife and cheese in your hands but you also do lots of good work as well. ] (]) 02:44, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
	:I know the difference between a domestic league and a knockout competition. Only Misplaced Pages guidelines are considered official, but even those can be challenged and consequently changed when consensus is reached. The listing of runner-up honours has been discussed several times at ] – it's not my opinion – you can search its archive (e.g. "runner-up honour"). As a rule of thumb, if a club or player has won a trophy or medal in a specific competition, there's no need to list a runner-up honour related to that competition. If a club or player has only been runner-up, and that honour isn't mentioned in prose, then we should add the runner-up honour. ] (]) 23:21, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

	Thanks for the reply, I understand your point and Misplaced Pages's policy parameters. I concede having the history portion mentioning such achievements, as not rendering it ignoble. The point I'm making has to do with the ease of a quick glancing of the history achievements in the Honours section, instead of needing to peruse the whole content of the web page. If someone picks up... runner-up 2005-6 UEFA what ever, it raises a level of curiosity as to which team won the final... That's the reason for my persistence. At any rate, keep up the good work you do. ] (]) 15:19, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

	:Club articles are generally different to player articles when listing honours, As a rule of thumb on previous consensus you don't list runner up on club articles in honours. Per seasonal prose know, there is no problems listing runner up in competition that year and it should be sourced. ] (]) 11:03, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

	== Rivalary ==		== Rivalary ==
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	:Firstly, Misplaced Pages is not a forum, and definetely not Reddit. Secondly, both Porto and Sporting are involved in judicial processes for corruption, especially the latter – Cashball. Lastly, just stop creating new accounts. ] (]) 20:50, 5 January 2019 (UTC)		:Firstly, Misplaced Pages is not a forum, and definetely not Reddit. Secondly, both Porto and Sporting are involved in judicial processes for corruption, especially the latter – Cashball. Lastly, just stop creating new accounts. ] (]) 20:50, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

			Hi there. I confirmed the fact that the futsal derby (https://www.zerozero.pt/jogo.php?id=3666265) happened before the football derby (https://www.zerozero.pt/jogo.php?id=3597315). Also I don’t think that when describing the Sporting Porto rivalry, one can say that they formed an alliance against Benfica, it just seems biased and simplistic. Also Sporting CP has a new president since 9th September 2019, following the dismissal of the previous president by the club’s “sócios”. Regards. ] (]) 17:53, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
	== Youth systeam ==

	A user that goes by a already bias name of SLBedit is constantly deleting any kind of information about it, leaving alone a not updated link to a wiki page, I dont understand the reason, since it give clear information and interesting facts about it in a very short way, just as present in the page of SL Benfica, i dont understand why in Sporitng CP keeps being erased and left with no information about it. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:14, 27 July 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:I don't know why SLBedit removed the first paragraph as it was more or less covered by the Guardian citation in the paragraph below it. That content should be restored, and sourced using that. Also OctopusFactCheck, you are hardly being ], it's really not nice to accuse someone of being bias. ] (]) 11:14, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
	::{{re\|Govvy}} I removed it because ''The Guardian'' source doesn't say Sporting is known for its academy, nor it says it's among "top three clubs" or anything like that, and because there was no footnote in the paragraph. ] (]) 08:18, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

	== Requested move 6 August 2018 ==

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	] → {{no redirect\|Sporting Clube de Portugal}} – The previous move discussion was closed improperly as no evidence that Sporting CP is the common name in English language media (or the most common English name of the club).

	Per guideline ], "Sporting Clube de Portugal" should be used, as it is used in the club's .

			Hi there. I revised the text regarding the number of members ("sócios") of the club and created a more recent and accurate citation in that regard. I also revised the text regarding the incidents that took place in the Lisbon Derbies of futsal and football, that happened respectively on the 7th and 8th February 2015, as it's described in the citations about this issue. I also changed the text regarding the rivalry between Sporting and Porto, since the alleged alliance between the two clubs against Benfica, doesn't exist anymore, given the fact that Sporting has a new President since the 9th September 2018. Best regards.] (]) 00:48, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
	Per ] and ], Sporting CP is not the most common name, as ] was used by , , .
			== Non-notable honours ==

			{{user\|Greenheart69}} has been adding non-notable honours such as the ] and the ], calling them European competitions and without adding sources. The UEFA Intertoto Cup might be considered a notable honour, but it's unsourced; even its article doesn't say Sporting won it. ] (]) 15:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
	''Sky Sport'' had used both and

			== Sporting Lisbon ==
	UEFA.com had used , for the women section and also for the men section. But it still not ambiguity "Sporting CP".
			{{discussion-top\|Entirely unproductive discussion. Continue in the new section below, focusing on the content, not the motivations of others. ] (]) 17:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)}}
			{{ping\|Royk14\|Struway2\|Oshwah}} Even Sporting CP website states that the club is known as ''Sporting Lisbon'' outside Portugal:

			""
	as ], other Portuguese club had abbreviated the suffix, does not mean the ] of Sporting had to do so ] ]] 14:27, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

			Previous discussions:
	:<small>Note: This discussion has been included in ]'s list of association football-related page moves. ] ]] 14:30, 6 August 2018 (UTC)</small>
	*'''Oppose''' - what has changed since the RM 12 months ago? ]] 08:48, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
	*'''Oppose''' I always thought for a long time the club was called Sporting Lisbon, but for English clubs we shorten to FC, why is it any different to shorten to CP for Sporting? Also correct English when shortening name parts you're suppose to add in the periods. C.P. Sporting would be the correct naming convention in true English. ] (]) 11:29, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
	*'''Oppose''' – As per ] and ]. Sporting CP is the most concise version of the club's full name and commonly used<ref>{{cite web\|url=http://www.espn.com/soccer/sporting-cp/story/3523092/bas-dost-william-carvalhoothers-join-sporting-cp-mass-exodus\|title=Bas Dost, William Carvalho, others join Sporting CP mass exodus\|work=espn.com\|date=12 June 2018\|accessdate=7 August 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0710/977715-fernandes-agrees-to-return-to-troubled-sporting-cp/\|title=Fernandes agrees to return to troubled Sporting CP\|work=rte.ie\|date=10 July 2018\|accessdate=7 August 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/dost-re-signs-sporting-cp-after-initially-rescinding-contract\|title=Dost re-signs with Sporting CP after initially rescinding contract\|work=fourfourtwo.com\|date=21 July 2018\|accessdate=7 August 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/ryan-gauld-included-in-sporting-cp-s-first-team-training-camp-1-4766318\|title=Ryan Gauld included in Sporting CP’s first team training camp\|work=thescotsman.com\|date=9 July 2018\|accessdate=7 August 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=http://www.squawka.com/en/news/i-rejected-a-raise-as-sporting-cp-are-in-a-difficult-situation-bruno-fernandes/1046899\|title=I rejected a raise as Sporting CP are in a difficult situation – Bruno Fernandes\|work=squawka.com\|date=10 July 2018\|accessdate=7 August 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/sporting-cp-go-for-real-madrid-striker-raul-de-tomas-4243043\|title=Sporting CP go for Real Madrid striker Raul de Tomas\|work=tribalfootball.com\|date=7 August 2018\|accessdate=7 August 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=http://sport.bt.com/football/transfer-talk-jerome-boateng-now-manchester-uniteds-main-defensive-target-thibaut-courtois-stays-calm-nabil-fekir-twist-S11364287466170\|title=Transfer Talk: Jerome Boateng now Manchester United's main defensive target, Thibaut Courtois stays calm, Nabil Fekir twist\|work=sport.bt.com\|date=6 August 2018\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=Portuguese heavyweights Sporting CP are also keen on striking a deal for the £5m-rated Pérez, but it's thought his preference is to stay in England and prove himself worthy of a Premier League spot.}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/wolves-sporting-cp-patricio-signing-14800650\|title='What a lack of respect' Sporting CP fans react to Wolves signing Rui Patricio\|work=birminghammail.co.uk\|date=20 June 2018\|accessdate=7 August 2018}}</ref>; this suggestion would be like suggesting that the '']'' page should be renamed ''Chelsea Football Club''. ] (]) 18:07, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
	::It looks like a trick on cherry picking source to slide to Sporting CP, which i presented major traditional British/English language media Sky Sport, BBC, The Independent and ESPNFC(ESPNsoccernet) to prove Sporting CP is not the (most) common name. But again,
	::For example ''The Guardian'' had way more usage of than
	::as well as BBC ( v )
	::Sky Sport ( v. )
	::Unless you argued that they are not reliable and unpopular English language source
	::Thus Sporting CP clearly fails ]: " When there is no single, obvious name that is demonstrably the most frequently used for the topic by these sources,", which should be claim the subsequent "editors should reach a consensus as to which title is best by considering these criteria directly.", where the 5 criteria are:
	::;Recognizability
	::;Naturalness
	::;Precision
	::;Conciseness
	::;Consistency
	::F.C. had no ambiguity means football club but it is not for CP. Unlike ] which the club itself used the SL abbreviation in , Sporting itself did not used CP in their English website.
	::As well as other name such as Sporting Lisbon was more frequently use short name despite people argue it was a wrong usage. The previous discussion and this discussion seems fail to show exactly Sporting CP fits the 5 criteria more than the full name "Sporting Clube de Portugal".
	::For example, both the suffix Portugal and Lisbon (or in some foreign language, ) correctly point to the Portuguese club (if people knew Lisbon is the capital) from other club just know as "Sporting" (such as ], ], ]), but CP is not easily recognisable as "Clube de Portugal" nor it is commonly used in traditional English language media. ] ]] 19:13, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
	::: I don't see how I'm cherry picking. I've laid out articles from ] (major US broadcaster), ] (Irish national broadcaster), ] (major football magazine), ] (major Scottish newspaper) and ] (major UK broadcaster), along with a few other sources. These can't be described as rouge sources.
	:::Using the same method that you've used BT Sport favour Sporting CP<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=UPRpW5meDcz18QWrhor4DQ&q=site%3Abt.com+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&oq=site%3Abt.com+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...16009.16200.0.16849.2.2.0.0.0.0.169.334.0j2.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.gxVD7a71mlM\|title="Sporting Lisbon"\|publisher=bt.com\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=About 257 results}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=UPRpW_nzK8L38gXDrISwDw&q=site%3Abt.com+%22Sporting+CP%22&oq=site%3Abt.com+%22Sporting+CP%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...22644.24978.0.25374.20.9.1.0.0.0.223.950.0j3j2.5.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..15.0.0....0.VxVb-HZYZhs\|title="Sporting CP"\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=About 306 results}}</ref>, as does FourFourTwo<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=Y_RpW7KSGoL_8QWCs6xI&q=site%3Afourfourtwo.com+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&oq=site%3Afourfourtwo.com+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...198806.198806.0.199426.1.1.0.0.0.0.163.163.0j1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0._HY5tyICN0s\|title="Sporting Lisbon"\|publisher=fourfourtwo.com\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=About 1,250 results}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=bPRpW6qrOIvu8wWN4oiABg&q=site%3Afourfourtwo.com+%22Sporting+CP%22&oq=site%3Afourfourtwo.com+%22Sporting+CP%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...195029.195029.0.195516.1.1.0.0.0.0.168.168.0j1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.ClZMMOjdpjY\|title="Sporting CP"\|publisher=fourfourtwo.com\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=About 1,450 results}}</ref>and ESPN,<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=oPVpW9K0JoK68QW1nKGoCw&q=site%3Aespn.com+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&oq=site%3Aespn.com+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...15430.15430.0.15837.1.1.0.0.0.0.191.191.0j1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.EO-9P_Qhhws\|title="Sporting Lisbon"\|publisher=]\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=About 9,590 results}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=pfVpW-64I4ib8QWGhqJ4&q=site%3Aespn.com+%22Sporting+CP%22&oq=site%3Aespn.com+%22Sporting+CP%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...17057.18143.0.18274.3.2.1.0.0.0.209.414.2-2.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.kMB-Qj4f1OI\|title="Sporting CP"\|publisher=]\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=About 54,100 results}}</ref> while RTÉ used to favour Sporting Lisbon but now appears to prefer Sporting CP (judging by the article dates).<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=sfVpW7XYLoTz8QXE7bqYAQ&q=site%3Arte.ie+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&oq=site%3Arte.ie+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...125866.126616.0.126874.7.6.0.0.0.0.191.372.0j2.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..6.0.0....0.wieRSsNE13M\|title="Sporting Lisbon"\|accessdate=7 August 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=ufVpW9CxFY_s8wWPl7DQBQ&q=site%3Arte.ie+%22Sporting+CP%22&oq=site%3Arte.ie+%22Sporting+CP%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...129331.129982.0.130248.6.6.0.0.0.0.186.186.0j1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..5.0.0....0.AKc8Bh0sHrc\|title="Sporting CP"\|accessdate=7 August 2018}}</ref> Other sources also favour Sporting CP: ] (major US broadcaster),<ref>{{citeweb\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=mPdpW_j-MoLI_Qb0vrM4&q=site%3Afoxsports.com+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&oq=site%3Afoxsports.com+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...26332.27157.0.27724.9.7.0.0.0.0.239.637.0j1j2.3.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..7.0.0....0.o2lDxg1xFHc\|publisher=]\|title="Sporting Lisbon"\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=About 587 results}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=n_dpW6mxJYac_QaD9Jy4Ag&q=site%3Afoxsports.com+%22Sporting+CP%22&oq=site%3Afoxsports.com+%22Sporting+CP%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...20295.21173.0.21569.9.7.0.0.0.0.238.775.0j3j1.4.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..7.0.0....0.8Y54oGqw11c\|title="Sporting CP"\|publisher=]\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=About 3,590 results}}</ref> UEFA,<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=7vhpW_6ZHoGd_Qbz6a7YDQ&q=site%3Auefa.com+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&oq=site%3Auefa.com+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...95848.96947.0.97172.9.7.0.0.0.0.229.448.2-2.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..8.0.0....0.59scf_PoXMw\|title="Sporting Lisbon"\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=About 50 results}}</ref><ref>{{citeweb\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=6fhpW82mG-emggeN067ADQ&q=site%3Auefa.com+%22Sporting+CP%22&oq=site%3Auefa.com+%22Sporting+CP%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...106822.107627.0.107741.8.6.0.0.0.0.231.418.0j1j1.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..8.0.0....0.qd1Hj2-RHPk\|title="Sporting CP"\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=About 31,000 results}}</ref> FIFA<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=UPlpW8i8Jc-4gge5k4OoBQ&q=site%3Afifa.com+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&oq=site%3Afifa.com+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...127725.128077.0.128334.5.5.0.0.0.0.263.263.2-1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..5.0.0....0.zYM3FUwsnHE\|title="Sporting Lisbon"\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=About 420 results}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=VvlpW-uCJKmf_Qan8ZOACg&q=site%3Afifa.com+%22Sporting+CP%22&oq=site%3Afifa.com+%22Sporting+CP%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...115998.116555.0.116693.4.4.0.0.0.0.286.286.2-1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..3.0.0....0.5PGDjDOdG8U\|title="Sporting CP"\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=About 1,690 results}}</ref> and '''the Sporting CP website'''.<ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=2_hpW5TxHoPq_Ab8xbeoDg&q=site%3Asporting.pt%2Fen+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&oq=site%3Asporting.pt%2Fen+%22Sporting+Lisbon%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...17553.17809.0.17893.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..3.0.0....0.1WPp8ODgNBo\|title="Sporting Lisbon"\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=8 results}}</ref><ref>{{cite web\|url=https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&ei=4fhpW7DLEaWf_Qa_hLXwDQ&q=site%3Asporting.pt%2Fen+%22Sporting+CP%22&oq=site%3Asporting.pt%2Fen+%22Sporting+CP%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i71k1l8.6290.6512.0.6615.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..3.0.0....0.zSah8yInKPg\|title="Sporting CP"\|accessdate=7 August 2018\|quote=About 2,580 results}}</ref> ] (]) 20:05, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

			]
	::::Fox Sports (AUS) use Sporting Lisbon, Sporting CP and Sporting Clube de Portugal on the same article. https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/premier-league/west-ham-transfer-news-sporting-lisbon-respond-to-william-carvalho-rumours/news-story/f1c6174397c6b76dc60e30d0e02c6229?nk=10d626dd88ff738c0235b626a7d67766-1533731060 It still fails as the only/most common name as Sporting CP. ] ]] 13:07, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
	::::regarding google hit result on site:sporting.pt, would you like a more qualitative approach to actually read the article (and cite it). ] ]] 13:12, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
	:::::I have read their website and Sporting CP is used: , ] (]) 03:12, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

			].
	* '''Oppose''' – Sorry Mat, but I must oppose you on this one. Consistency would further mean we shoould then move ] to "Sport Lisboa e Benfica" and ] to "Futebol Clube do Porto". This are the 3 big ones from Portugal and the 3 using shorten commonname makes sense. Changing one of the doesnt. ] (]) 19:05, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
	::It did not fails consistency because Sporting CP is never a common name, while SL Benfica and FC Porto are common name of the two clubs. Sporting Clube de Portugal sometimes refer as just "Sporting", does not mean adding CP would really help to distinguish with others. ] ]] 19:17, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
	::It just likes ] knows as Hotspurs, so abbreviated to ]. or ] known as Wolves so abbreviated to ] or ]. It had to be shown CP abbreviation is so popular in order to abbreviate it. "A.C." abbreviation in Italian football is popular and adapted , but CP is not in both Portuguese language and English. Rather, they instead adding location as suffix in the secondary source. ] ]] 19:29, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

			] ] (]) 19:45, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
	*I would suggest next time any move instead of throwing technical term such as ], ], ] or less popularity ] and then cherry picking citation and/or starting voting instead of discussion, any move discussion should use table/ matrix form for all the criteria as well as inform ] by tagging. ] and closing by an admin that was blocked for other reason and ignoring ] on Sporting CP was barely used by " English-language media" (quoting {{u\|Cloudz679}}). And here is the incomplete matrix :

			If you cared about being honest, you would have pasted the entire quote.
	{\| class="wikitable"
			That sentence is taken from a paragraph explaining that the new badge includes the words "Sporting" and "Portugal" PRECISELY to emphasize the correct name of the club.
	\|-
	! criteria !! Sporting Clube de Portugal!! Sporting CP !! Sporting Lisbon !! SCP !! Sporting
	\|-
	\| ] \|\| {{question mark}} , \|\| {{tick}}{{question mark}} , , \|\| {{tick}}, BBC, the Guardian, the Independent, ESPN \|\| {{no}} \|\| {{tick}}
	\|-
	! ] !! !! !! !! !!
	\|-
	\| Recognizability \|\| (partially used in club crest) \|\| \|\| \|\| {{no}} (used in club crest) \|\|
	\|-
	\|Naturalness \|\| \|\| \|\| \|\|
	\|-
	\|Precision \|\| {{tick}} (as full name) \|\| \|\| \|\| {{no}} \|\| {{no}} (many club had same name)
	\|-
	\|Conciseness \|\| {{no}} \|\| {{tick}} \|\| {{tick}} \|\| {{tick}} \|\| {{tick}}
	\|-
	\|Consistency \|\| colspan=5\| many club called F.C./A.F.C./A.C./S.S./C.D. but not so many called "Clube de Portugal"; "SL" abbreviation was officially used by Benfica (without dot), but only SCP was used by Sporting in their official website; Brazilian football club use full name, many Portuguese club abbreviated commonly known term F.C., S.C. (Sport club or other variant) or in Benfica case, SL (L for Lisboa) which SL Benfica is the primary topic of Benfica. Rarely abbreviate the place name in ] even Man City, Man Utd, WBA were commonly used as nickname, except Benfica, AZ, NEC case (official adoption)
	\|-
	! ] !! !! !! !! !!
	\|-
	\| Used in English version of official site \|\| {{tick}} (it read ) \|\| {{question mark}} \|\| {{no}} \|\| {{tick}} \|\| in the url {{url\|www.sporting.pt}}
	\|-
	\| significant section of the English-language media \|\| {{question mark}} \|\| {{tick}} \|\| {{tick}} \|\| {{no}} \|\| {{tick}}
	\|-
	\| The name is not easily confused with other clubs' names \|\| {{tick}} \|\| \|\| {{tick}} \|\| {{no}} \|\| {{no}}
	\|}
	–– ] ]] 13:07, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
	*'''Oppose'''. Since I've been tagged here, I must mention that I still believe ''Sporting Lisbon'' is the correct title, and moving from one less-desirable name to another does not have any merit. The club not preferring it themselves is not necessarily reason enough not to use it, ] Inter Milan. <span style="font-family: Century Gothic;">]]</span> 21:06, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

	From what I can see, the table is – removing SCP and Sporting (as no-one seems to be suggesting renaming the page either of these):
	{\| class="wikitable"
	\|-
	!width=25%\|criteria
	!width=25%\|Sporting Clube de Portugal
	!width=25%\|Sporting CP
	!width=25%\|Sporting Lisbon
	\|-
	\| ] \|\| {{question mark}} – UEFA, Fox AUS\|\| {{tick}} – UEFA, FoxAUS, BT, ESPN, FIFA, Club's website\|\| {{tick}} – FoxAUS, BBC, Guardian, Independent, ESPN
	\|-
	!colspan=4\|]
	\|-
	\|Recognisability – open to interpretation \|\| {{no\|Doubtful}} \|\| {{maybe\|{{tick}}{{question mark}} – May depend on regional uses and ]}} \|\| {{maybe\|{{tick}}{{question mark}} – May depend on regional uses and ]}}
	\|-
	\|Naturalness – open to interpretation \|\| {{no\|Doubtful}} \|\| {{maybe\|{{tick}}{{question mark}} – May depend on regional uses and ]}} \|\| {{maybe\|{{tick}}{{question mark}} – May depend on regional uses and ]}}
	\|-
	\|Precision \|\| {{tick}} – club's full name \|\| {{tick}}{{question mark}} – contraction of club's full name\|\| {{tick}}{{question mark}} – contraction of club's full name + location
	\|-
	\|Conciseness \|\| {{no}} \|\| {{tick}} \|\| {{tick}}
	\|-
	\|Consistency \|\| colspan=3\|
	*Many club called F.C./A.F.C./A.C./S.S./C.D. but not so many called "Clube de Portugal"
	**Many Portuguese clubs abbreviated commonly known term F.C., S.C. (Sport club or other variant)
	*"SL" abbreviation was officially used by Benfica (without dot); Sporting CP used on their official website (see below)
	**In Benfica's case, SL (L for Lisboa) which SL Benfica is the primary topic of Benfica.
	*Brazilian football clubs use full name
	*Rarely abbreviate place names in ] even Man City, Man Utd, WBA were commonly used as nickname, except where officially used by club (Benfica, AZ, NEC)
	**Location names appear inconsistent when not in club's official name – ''Celtic F.C.'' not ''Glasgow Celtic'' and ''FK Partizan'' not ''Partizan Belgrade'', but ''PSV Eindhoven'' not ''PSV'' and ''FC Zenit Saint Petersburg'' not ''FC Zenit''.
	\|-
	!colspan=4\|]
	\|-
	\| Used in English version of official site \|\| {{tick}} – \|\| {{tick}} – , \|\| {{no}}
	\|-
	\| significant section of the English-language media – see WP:CommonName \|\| {{question mark}} \|\| {{tick}} \|\| {{tick}}
	\|-
	\| The name is not easily confused with other clubs' names \|\| {{tick}} \|\| {{tick}} \|\| {{tick}}
	\|}
	] (]) 03:12, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
	::'''Oppose''', fine as it is, the common name is ''Sporting'' which won't work, and ''Sporting Clube de Portugal'' and ''Sporting Lisbon'' are examples of the extremes of such debate (official cumbersome native language name vs English childish term), so to be me Sporting CP is a decent compromise between the three. Just a general musing here, if we just named every club as their official title with redirects into English and any short/common versions they use, we wouldn't need to have these multiple tedious naming discussions... ] (]) 06:23, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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			"The words "Sporting" and "Portugal", now written as complete words and no longer as abbreviations or initials, where introduced to emphasis the national dimension of the Club and to present the official name of the Club on the international level; " ] (]) 19:52, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
	{{talkref}}

			I'm sorry for my language, but this is a subject that I feel it shouldn't even be under discussion. ] (]) 19:56, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
	== Club Officials ==

			:"If you cared about being honest", you wouldn't divert the discussion to the club's emblem. We are discussing the fact that Sporting is known as Sporting Lisbon outside of Portugal, according to international media and the club itself. I get it that the club is trying to be known as "Sporting Portugal" abroad, but that doesn't make "Sporting Lisbon" erroneous.
	Hi I would like to suggest an important change to this article.
	Can some one please remove the Other from the Club Officials heading?
	Leoes de Portugal are not part of the club officials. They are a separate entity that is authorised by the Club to use colors and logo and such. They are important, and have their place in the article, but so do many other groups that are part of this family. Never as Club Officials, This is wrong. The link (90) that references that entry is for a page outside the sporting.pt FQDN.

			:Apology accepted, but almost everything on Misplaced Pages is subject to discussion. If you are not prepared to discuss, you shouldn't be editing. ] (]) 20:04, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
	Please note these are the club officals atm:
	https://www.sporting.pt/en/club/institution/board-of-directors <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:20, 21 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

			. ] (]) 20:08, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
	== Censorship attempt ==

	{{ping\|~~Oshwah\|Drmies~~}} ~~Could you please~~ stop ~~the~~ ~~pathetic~~ ~~censorship~~ ~~attempt~~ by ~~multiple~~ IP ~~addresses~~ ~~and~~ ~~new accounts? I have requested page protection~~. ] (])		*{{ping\|In0202}} stop edit warring. There is no consensus to remove "Sporting Lisbon". ] (]) 23:26, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
	:] - The article has been semi protected. :-) ]<sup><small><b>] ]</b></small></sup> 23:19, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
	::{{ping\|Oshwah}} Okay, thank you. However, the information was effectively censored and I don't want to get blocked by restoring it again. ] (]) 23:21, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
	:::] - Good call on keeping an eye out for yourself like that. I agree; you definitely don't want to put yourself into a position where you risk being put under the "admin spotlight" because you made a bunch of reverts. Always better to be safe than sorry and just ask for assistance. It's not worth the risk and the trouble. ;-) ]<sup><small><b>] ]</b></small></sup> 23:30, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

			{{ping\|Mwiqdoh}} Stop. ] (]) 14:19, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
	Due to the fact of this article being attacked by a {{ping\|SLBedit}} (notice Benfica acronyms SLB) with support of {{ping\|Oshwah}} I contacted Misplaced Pages for a solution. That "fact" is from a editorialized article(notice CMjornal and Record, portuguese tabloids), and that reflects the bias of Benfica fans, that a agreement between 2 teams to defend their interests is an alliance against Benfica. That goes against Misplaced Pages talk:Neutral point of view of promoting things from a neutral point of view. I don't understand the interest of Oshwah to keep that, looks like a such conflictive issue in a such small point would be very easy to solve with the removal, and not claiming "censorship".
	This matter would be easily solved with a neutral point like: "Recently Porto and Sporting resumed their institutional relationship after 4 years of cuted ties.".--] (]) 11:06, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
	:Great, a ]. ] (]) 21:33, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

			:The fuck do you mean "Stop"? Leave me alone and don't @ me again. ] (]) 18:45, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
	== Number of registered supporters discussion ==
			::Remain civil. ] (]) 21:47, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
	Would it be possible to edit the page with this more up to date information regarding the current number of registered supporters:
	https://web3.cmvm.pt/sdi/emitentes/docs/fsd596518.pdf
	This PDF is a prospectus, with detailed club information to the Portuguese Security Markets Commission, prior to the launch of new debt. As you can see o page 17, there is specific info re number of registered supporters. The document, to an official governmental body, reports that Sporting Clube de Portugal, as of 30 September 2018, had 172.756 registered Supporters distributed in several categories.

			{{ping\|BrunoLxxx}} Why should we? ] (]) 00:43, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
	I am not an experienced user of Misplaced Pages, may I please put it out to who ever reads this talk, to give me a hand editing that paragraph

			:Neither the club nor its fans like that denomination. It seems disrespectful to any institution to be called a name that they are not. I'd consider distasteful if internationally our rivals would be called FC Oporto or Benfica Lisbon, for instance. ] (]) 01:38, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
	Kind regards <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:42, 18 December 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			::You and the club may consider it disrespectful, but this is the English Misplaced Pages, and in English countries people do say and write "Sporting Lisbon" (even Cristiano Ronaldo said it that way). In Spain, it's common for them to say/write "Oporto". In Germany, "Benfica Lissabon" is common. It has nothing to do with being disrespectful; it's a cultural thing. ] (]) 01:55, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
			:::''Sport Lisboa e Benfica'' has the word "Lisbon" on it. ''Futebol Clube do Porto'' has the word "Oporto/Porto" on it. ''Sporting Clube de Portugal'' doesn't have a city name on it but the name of a country (since 1906). That makes all the difference. The way foreigners unfamiliar with the club name and history distort the name of the club is a gross inaccuracy and that should be stated in the lead as it was stated before and promptly reverted by you, a SL Benfica supporter, over and over again. ] (]) 15:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
			::::SCP is known as Sporting Lisbon outside Portugal. Your opinion doesn't matter. Stop removing sources and adding POV. ] (]) 16:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			::::Administrator intervertion will be required if you keep disrupting. ] (]) 16:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::::Sporting Lisbon remains at the lead. The inaccuracy must be explained according to consensus. We already know your opinions, SLBedit. They aren't vinculative. This is the most balanced and equitable way to solve the issue. ] (]) 16:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			::::::You wrote that after another revert. Stop reverting. Don't add "innacurately" to the lead; it isn't neutral. ] (]) 16:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			::::::You are the one with conflict of interest because you are a Sporting Lisbon fan. ] (]) 16:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			::Where is the evidence that the fans find it disrespectful? ] (]) 11:01, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
			:::This section offers plenty of valuable information about the topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/Sporting_CP#Names . ] (]) 14:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
			::::That's no reason to censor it from the lead. ] (]) 15:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

			Sporting Lisbon fans still continue to remove "Sporting Lisbon", ignoring reliable sources. A. Landmesser continues not to reinstate that information because they have conflict of interest. ] (]) 14:17, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
	In the meantime I read how to propose an edit to a protected page, and made a request, as per below.
	I think it can be better worded, but the most important action would be to correct this information

			:Blatant Conflict of interest (COI) editing: even the source SLBedit insists to add is about a degrading episode in the history of Sporting CP. Always the same modus operandi that people are starting to notice. Others left Misplaced Pages for good because of editors like him. The most balanced and equitable way to solve the issue is to properly explain the issues with the use of "Sporting Lisbon" without erasing it from the lead. ] (]) 16:58, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
	The current information, by the way, was published in a Portuguese tabloid, by a compulsive biased reporter, that has published several biased articles.... <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 2018-12-18T15:13:37 (UTC)</small>

			===Sourced content reverted===
	== Semi-protected edit request on 18 December 2018 ==
			This short explanation was reverted without a valid reason by a SL Benfica advocate. I would ask the administrators to pay attention to the multiple abuses by this user, who has absurd prejudices towards Portuguese football and is against anything that is not in the interests of his SL Benfica. ] (]) 08:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
			:You shouldn't have added off-topic advocacy to the Crest and shirt section. ] (]) 20:09, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

			===Edit war started by User:A. Landmesser===
	{{edit semi-protected\|Sporting CP\|answered=yes}}
			"The innacuracy must be explained according to consensus". There never was consensus about that. ] (]) 16:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
	Please change
	"As of August 2018, Sporting has 90,000 members, with around 50,000 being eligible to vote in the club's elections."

			:You don't make the consensus alone. Many users have said it to you. Your actions are a Blatant Conflict of interest (COI) editing: even the source you insist to add is about a degrading episode in the history of Sporting CP. Always the same modus operandi that people are starting to notice but nobody cares. Others left Misplaced Pages for good because of editors like you. The most balanced and equitable way to solve the issue is to properly explain the issues with the use of "Sporting Lisbon" without erasing it from the lead. ] (]) 17:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
	To
			:Will you stop harrassing me and stop copy-pasting the same aspersions? ] (]) 17:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			::Boy, I've better things to this week at Estádio de Alvalade. Have a nice day. ] (]) 17:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::Are you implying that you work for Sporting Lisbon? I do not care about your personal life, but if you are a paid editor, you must tell Misplaced Pages. ] ] (]) 17:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			{{discussion-bottom}}

			== Sporting Lisbon ==
	"As of September 2018, Sporting Clube de Portugal has 172756 registered members, in several categories" as per official clube information to the Portuguese Securities Market Commission here: https://web3.cmvm.pt/sdi/emitentes/docs/fsd596518.pdf, page 17. ] (]) 15:09, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
	:That's a primary source. ] (]) 19:28, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

			You need a new section to discuss this to start afresh. Don't turn it into personal attacks or refer to each other's motives. There are currently cited references to support both points of view.
	You mean the CMVM? A governmental agency? Does this mean Misplaced Pages does not use governmental sources as references in its articles? Because the document is published by the CMVM, not Sporting. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:24, 19 December 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

			What's wrong with this compromise: ''and occasionally as Sporting Lisbon outside other countries''? I don't buy the offensiveness argument, that's unsourced and ]. ] (]) 17:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
	Or as Misplaced Pages puts it: "Material based on primary sources can be valuable and appropriate additions to articles. However, primary sources may only be used on Misplaced Pages to make straightforward, descriptive statements that any educated person—with access to the source but without specialist knowledge—will be able to verify are directly supported by the source. This person does not have to be able to determine that the material in the article or in the primary source is true. The goal is only that the person could compare the primary source with the material in the Misplaced Pages article, and agree that the primary source actually, directly says just what the article says it does. "

			:"I don't buy the offensiveness argument, that's unsourced and ]" That's the whole point. It's only "offensive" to some Sporting Lisbon fans. ] (]) 17:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
	My edit fits the description above, like a glove. Instead of trying to oppose it by default, you could take a few moments to read the definition.
			::So you don't object to the compromise? @], what's wrong with the above suggestion? I agree there's controversy around the name, but the way you expressed it looked like the article was opinionated rather than objective. Misplaced Pages does not take opinions on these issues, it summarises what is in reliable sources. So what exactly is wrong with the above suggestion, which reflects that the name is still used (Google "Sporting Lisbon" and look at the news articles), even if it's not ubiquitous. ] (]) 17:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::{{re\|Local Variable}} ''and occasionally as Sporting Lisbon outside other countries'' is fine. However, that won't please users/IP addresses that have been trying to remove "Sporting Lisbon" for years. ] (]) 17:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			::::Well, we'll wait and see what they say about it, rather than presume their opinion on the topic. None of the above discussion has been at all productive with no attempt to compromise. ] (]) 17:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
			:::::I've only presumed because I know who/what I'm dealing with. It's just sad that they don't accept that there are people in the world that say "Sporting Lisbon". This whole edit warring could be avoided if they hadn't a limited view of their own club. This reminds of the "Inter Milan" story on Misplaced Pages, where Inter Milan fans tried to change it, without success, to "Internazionale". ] (]) 17:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

			Here is a quote from https://www.sporting.pt/en/club/history/the-badge "Various loose affiliations and denominations, in the form of the different names used to define the Club outside of Portugal (with the Club largely being known a "Sporting Lisbon" abroad)". Even the official website acknowledges "Sporting Lisbon". What happens if A. Landmesser ignores this discussion while other users/IPs try to remove "Sporting Lisbon" from the lead? What happens if consensus is reached: will the "restore-reverts" still count as edit warring? Could someone add a note in the lead saying "do not remove "Sporting Lisbon" without reaching consensus first"? ] (]) 17:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
	Also, this corrects a biased article that should never have been used. There are numerous articles about the progress of Sporting's number of registered supporters, over the last 5 years. And you go and use one from a known biased journalist.

			:That will likely go in, but cool your jets: fanboys and people with axes to grind do similar edits, all over Misplaced Pages, thousands a day. There is no practical way for the words "Sporting Lisbon" to be engraved in granite in this article, untouchable for all time to come. If vandalism happens, it will be reverted. It just doesn't have to be the case that you, personally, need to be the sole guardian of the lead's purity. ] 19:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
	It feels like you have an agenda, but I don't want to jump to that conclusion straight away. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:35, 19 December 2018 (UTC)</small>
	:Thank you for confirming that you are the same person who tried to censor information on this article. ] (]) 22:06, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

			All of the sudden, {{user\|A. Landmesser}} stops editing and almost a month later {{user\|SportingPortugaledit}} appears and starts pushing "Sporting Portugal" into the lead. Do you think it's a coincidence? ] (]) 15:57, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
	== Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2019 ==

			:Misplaced Pages has been recklessly vandalized by Lisboa e Benfica fan boy since years ago and you call vandals to those who try to fix this disgusting behavior in the website. ''Sporting Clube de Portugal is informally known as Sporting Lisbon because there isn’t such a thing as Sporting Lisbon (Portuguese sports club), Minneapolis Timberwolves (NBA team), Boston Revolution (MLS team) or Holland (sovereign state or national football team). The article about Netherlands use the term “informally” as well and people and the media around the world still employ the name Holland when it should be Netherlands. Open your eyes!'' ] (]) 22:11, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
	{{edit semi-protected\|Sporting CP\|answered=yes}}
	Iuri Medeiros' loan goes until 30 June 2019, not until 31 December 2018 as it's said in the page. Also, Alan Ruiz is now loaned to Aldosivi, and not to Colón. ] (]) 15:54, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
	:{{done}} ] (]) 01:44, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

			== Number of league titles ==
	== Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2019 ==

			Sporting CP supporters are again pushing their own league title count. Officially, the club has 20 league titles. I will revert ALL those edits per WP:ADVOCACY and WP:UNSOURCED. ] (]) 22:32, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
	{{edit semi-protected\|Sporting CP\|answered=yes}}

			== NOT SPORTING LISBON ==
	#26 is Crisitan Borja

			Hey n word being automatically blocked, stop being offended if i call you n word being automatically blocked, ok? Everybody calls you n word being automatically blocked why are you complaining about it? Just because white people who doesn't like you call you n word being automatically blocked, and everyone else who doesn't care call you n word being automatically blocked what's the point in complaining? ] (]) 04:15, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
	#20 Lumor is on loan
	#18 Carlos Mane is on loan ] (]) 19:11, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
	:{{done}} ] (]) 21:50, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

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On 31 July 2017, it was proposed that this article be moved from Sporting Clube de Portugal to Sporting CP. The result of the discussion was Moved.

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Rivalary

It seems to me that a user is constantly updating this area to something that has no interest to the section, like about a episode about a banner, if we are going to write about every single time a football clube put a banner we gonna need the whole internet, so i dont see the interest of this particular episode. I do agree thoug that the 1996 final of portuguese cup was a key moment in the rivalary between sporting and benfica, since was the first time and only time a fan died consequence of the rivalary, being quoted as the darkest day of portuguese football. The other episodes seem to me a way of enabling the latter episode and justify it even thoug it happended 20 years after and which the severity of it is banal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OctopusFactCheck (talk • contribs) 15:11, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

You lost me a bit here, I read through the rivalry section and don't really see much wrong other than some poorly written English. Porto vs Sporting rivalry could certainly do with being expanded upon. Govvy (talk) 11:17, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

The rivalry section between Sporting and Porto is not elaborated on but it is also wrong. There is no alliance between Sporting and Porto. The sources provided to support this are from tabloid newspapers. Both clubs are supporting the judicial processes against Benfica since both might benefit from it but that does not make an alliance... The clubs even had the official ties cut until recently...--JRosa (talk) 16:49, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Firstly, Misplaced Pages is not a forum, and definetely not Reddit. Secondly, both Porto and Sporting are involved in judicial processes for corruption, especially the latter – Cashball. Lastly, just stop creating new accounts. SLBedit (talk) 20:50, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi there. I confirmed the fact that the futsal derby (https://www.zerozero.pt/jogo.php?id=3666265) happened before the football derby (https://www.zerozero.pt/jogo.php?id=3597315). Also I don’t think that when describing the Sporting Porto rivalry, one can say that they formed an alliance against Benfica, it just seems biased and simplistic. Also Sporting CP has a new president since 9th September 2019, following the dismissal of the previous president by the club’s “sócios”. Regards. Pddalmeida (talk) 17:53, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi there. I revised the text regarding the number of members ("sócios") of the club and created a more recent and accurate citation in that regard. I also revised the text regarding the incidents that took place in the Lisbon Derbies of futsal and football, that happened respectively on the 7th and 8th February 2015, as it's described in the citations about this issue. I also changed the text regarding the rivalry between Sporting and Porto, since the alleged alliance between the two clubs against Benfica, doesn't exist anymore, given the fact that Sporting has a new President since the 9th September 2018. Best regards.Pddalmeida (talk) 00:48, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Non-notable honours

Greenheart69 (talk · contribs) has been adding non-notable honours such as the Small World Cup and the Iberian Cup, calling them European competitions and without adding sources. The UEFA Intertoto Cup might be considered a notable honour, but it's unsourced; even its article doesn't say Sporting won it. SLBedit (talk) 15:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Sporting Lisbon

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Entirely unproductive discussion. Continue in the new section below, focusing on the content, not the motivations of others. Local Variable (talk) 17:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

@Royk14, Struway2, and Oshwah: Even Sporting CP website states that the club is known as Sporting Lisbon outside Portugal:

"Various loose affiliations and denominations, in the form of the different names used to define the Club outside of Portugal (with the Club largely being known a "Sporting Lisbon" abroad), worked to create a little anarchy and diversity in the shaping of the new identity of the Club that has always aimed to be a leader of the national panoramic and to be of international reputation."

Previous discussions:

Talk:Sporting CP/Archive 1#referred to incorrectly..

Talk:Sporting CP/Archive 1#Use of Sporting Clube de Portugal / Sporting Lisbon.

Talk:Sporting CP/Archive 1#Requested move 6 August 2018 SLBedit (talk) 19:45, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

If you cared about being honest, you would have pasted the entire quote. That sentence is taken from a paragraph explaining that the new badge includes the words "Sporting" and "Portugal" PRECISELY to emphasize the correct name of the club.

"The words "Sporting" and "Portugal", now written as complete words and no longer as abbreviations or initials, where introduced to emphasis the national dimension of the Club and to present the official name of the Club on the international level; " Royk14 (talk) 19:52, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry for my language, but this is a subject that I feel it shouldn't even be under discussion. Royk14 (talk) 19:56, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

"If you cared about being honest", you wouldn't divert the discussion to the club's emblem. We are discussing the fact that Sporting is known as Sporting Lisbon outside of Portugal, according to international media and the club itself. I get it that the club is trying to be known as "Sporting Portugal" abroad, but that doesn't make "Sporting Lisbon" erroneous.

Apology accepted, but almost everything on Misplaced Pages is subject to discussion. If you are not prepared to discuss, you shouldn't be editing. SLBedit (talk) 20:04, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Yet another attempt of WP:ADVOCACY. SLBedit (talk) 20:08, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@In0202: stop edit warring. There is no consensus to remove "Sporting Lisbon". SLBedit (talk) 23:26, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

@Mwiqdoh: Stop. SLBedit (talk) 14:19, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

The fuck do you mean "Stop"? Leave me alone and don't @ me again. Mwiqdoh (talk) 18:45, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Remain civil. SLBedit (talk) 21:47, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@BrunoLxxx: Why should we? SLBedit (talk) 00:43, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Neither the club nor its fans like that denomination. It seems disrespectful to any institution to be called a name that they are not. I'd consider distasteful if internationally our rivals would be called FC Oporto or Benfica Lisbon, for instance. BrunoLxxx (talk) 01:38, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

You and the club may consider it disrespectful, but this is the English Misplaced Pages, and in English countries people do say and write "Sporting Lisbon" (even Cristiano Ronaldo said it that way). In Spain, it's common for them to say/write "Oporto". In Germany, "Benfica Lissabon" is common. It has nothing to do with being disrespectful; it's a cultural thing. SLBedit (talk) 01:55, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Sport Lisboa e Benfica has the word "Lisbon" on it. Futebol Clube do Porto has the word "Oporto/Porto" on it. Sporting Clube de Portugal doesn't have a city name on it but the name of a country (since 1906). That makes all the difference. The way foreigners unfamiliar with the club name and history distort the name of the club is a gross inaccuracy and that should be stated in the lead as it was stated before and promptly reverted by you, a SL Benfica supporter, over and over again. A. Landmesser (talk) 15:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

SCP is known as Sporting Lisbon outside Portugal. Your opinion doesn't matter. Stop removing sources and adding POV. SLBedit (talk) 16:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Administrator intervertion will be required if you keep disrupting. SLBedit (talk) 16:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Sporting Lisbon remains at the lead. The inaccuracy must be explained according to consensus. We already know your opinions, SLBedit. They aren't vinculative. This is the most balanced and equitable way to solve the issue. A. Landmesser (talk) 16:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

You wrote that after another revert. Stop reverting. Don't add "innacurately" to the lead; it isn't neutral. SLBedit (talk) 16:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

You are the one with conflict of interest because you are a Sporting Lisbon fan. SLBedit (talk) 16:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Where is the evidence that the fans find it disrespectful? Govvy (talk) 11:01, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

This section offers plenty of valuable information about the topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/Sporting_CP#Names . A. Landmesser (talk) 14:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

That's no reason to censor it from the lead. SLBedit (talk) 15:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Sporting Lisbon fans still continue to remove "Sporting Lisbon", ignoring reliable sources. A. Landmesser continues not to reinstate that information because they have conflict of interest. SLBedit (talk) 14:17, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Blatant Conflict of interest (COI) editing: even the source SLBedit insists to add is about a degrading episode in the history of Sporting CP. Always the same modus operandi that people are starting to notice. Others left Misplaced Pages for good because of editors like him. The most balanced and equitable way to solve the issue is to properly explain the issues with the use of "Sporting Lisbon" without erasing it from the lead. A. Landmesser (talk) 16:58, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Sourced content reverted

This short explanation was reverted without a valid reason by a SL Benfica advocate. I would ask the administrators to pay attention to the multiple abuses by this user, who has absurd prejudices towards Portuguese football and is against anything that is not in the interests of his SL Benfica. A. Landmesser (talk) 08:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

You shouldn't have added off-topic advocacy to the Crest and shirt section. SLBedit (talk) 20:09, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Edit war started by User:A. Landmesser

"The innacuracy must be explained according to consensus". There never was consensus about that. SLBedit (talk) 16:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

You don't make the consensus alone. Many users have said it to you. Your actions are a Blatant Conflict of interest (COI) editing: even the source you insist to add is about a degrading episode in the history of Sporting CP. Always the same modus operandi that people are starting to notice but nobody cares. Others left Misplaced Pages for good because of editors like you. The most balanced and equitable way to solve the issue is to properly explain the issues with the use of "Sporting Lisbon" without erasing it from the lead. A. Landmesser (talk) 17:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Will you stop harrassing me and stop copy-pasting the same aspersions? SLBedit (talk) 17:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Boy, I've better things to this week at Estádio de Alvalade. Have a nice day. A. Landmesser (talk) 17:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Are you implying that you work for Sporting Lisbon? I do not care about your personal life, but if you are a paid editor, you must tell Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages:Paid-contribution disclosure SLBedit (talk) 17:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Sporting Lisbon

You need a new section to discuss this to start afresh. Don't turn it into personal attacks or refer to each other's motives. There are currently cited references to support both points of view.

What's wrong with this compromise: and occasionally as Sporting Lisbon outside other countries? I don't buy the offensiveness argument, that's unsourced and WP:NOTCENSORED. Local Variable (talk) 17:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

"I don't buy the offensiveness argument, that's unsourced and WP:NOTCENSORED" That's the whole point. It's only "offensive" to some Sporting Lisbon fans. SLBedit (talk) 17:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

So you don't object to the compromise? @A. Landmesser, what's wrong with the above suggestion? I agree there's controversy around the name, but the way you expressed it looked like the article was opinionated rather than objective. Misplaced Pages does not take opinions on these issues, it summarises what is in reliable sources. So what exactly is wrong with the above suggestion, which reflects that the name is still used (Google "Sporting Lisbon" and look at the news articles), even if it's not ubiquitous. Local Variable (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

@Local Variable: and occasionally as Sporting Lisbon outside other countries is fine. However, that won't please users/IP addresses that have been trying to remove "Sporting Lisbon" for years. SLBedit (talk) 17:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Well, we'll wait and see what they say about it, rather than presume their opinion on the topic. None of the above discussion has been at all productive with no attempt to compromise. Local Variable (talk) 17:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

I've only presumed because I know who/what I'm dealing with. It's just sad that they don't accept that there are people in the world that say "Sporting Lisbon". This whole edit warring could be avoided if they hadn't a limited view of their own club. This reminds of the "Inter Milan" story on Misplaced Pages, where Inter Milan fans tried to change it, without success, to "Internazionale". SLBedit (talk) 17:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Here is a quote from https://www.sporting.pt/en/club/history/the-badge "Various loose affiliations and denominations, in the form of the different names used to define the Club outside of Portugal (with the Club largely being known a "Sporting Lisbon" abroad)". Even the official website acknowledges "Sporting Lisbon". What happens if A. Landmesser ignores this discussion while other users/IPs try to remove "Sporting Lisbon" from the lead? What happens if consensus is reached: will the "restore-reverts" still count as edit warring? Could someone add a note in the lead saying "do not remove "Sporting Lisbon" without reaching consensus first"? SLBedit (talk) 17:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

That will likely go in, but cool your jets: fanboys and people with axes to grind do similar edits, all over Misplaced Pages, thousands a day. There is no practical way for the words "Sporting Lisbon" to be engraved in granite in this article, untouchable for all time to come. If vandalism happens, it will be reverted. It just doesn't have to be the case that you, personally, need to be the sole guardian of the lead's purity. Ravenswing 19:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

All of the sudden, A. Landmesser (talk · contribs) stops editing and almost a month later SportingPortugaledit (talk · contribs) appears and starts pushing "Sporting Portugal" into the lead. Do you think it's a coincidence? SLBedit (talk) 15:57, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages has been recklessly vandalized by Lisboa e Benfica fan boy since years ago and you call vandals to those who try to fix this disgusting behavior in the website. Sporting Clube de Portugal is informally known as Sporting Lisbon because there isn’t such a thing as Sporting Lisbon (Portuguese sports club), Minneapolis Timberwolves (NBA team), Boston Revolution (MLS team) or Holland (sovereign state or national football team). The article about Netherlands use the term “informally” as well and people and the media around the world still employ the name Holland when it should be Netherlands. Open your eyes! SportingPortugaledit (talk) 22:11, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Number of league titles

Sporting CP supporters are again pushing their own league title count. Officially, the club has 20 league titles. I will revert ALL those edits per WP:ADVOCACY and WP:UNSOURCED. SLBedit (talk) 22:32, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

NOT SPORTING LISBON

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