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=="Hrisi Avgi" origin of name==
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I see you have removed the origin I provided for the name of Greeek ultra-nationalist organisation '']''. (I wrote: "The name derives from the era of ] ], whose regime promised a new, golden dawn for Greek civilisation, following the glories of antiquity.") Could you, then, please explain what you believe to be the correct origin of their name? ] 05:55, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
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== Hey hey == ==Grivas biography==


This is the relevant section from the Karousos interview in Vima regarding Grivas' anti-junta activities:
Thanks for your edit in ]. What's the dispute about the financial repercussions? you put the tag in, but you didn't explain what your dispute is all about. Thanks :) ] | <font size="1">] </font> 18:30, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


"Συγκρότησε στην Ελλάδα αντιστασιακή Οργάνωση. Αποκαλύφθηκε και διώχθηκε με τους συνεργάτες του (Οπρόπουλος-Μουστακλής-Λύτρας, κύπριοι επιστήμονες και φοιτητές). Μετά τη ναυάγηση της προσπάθειάς του αυτής και με σύμφωνη γνώμη αντιστασιακών προσωπικοτήτων αποδέχθηκε αποστολή καθόδου του στην Κύπρο για επιβοήθηση Οργάνωσης από εκεί νέας αντιστασιακής προσπάθειας, σε συνδυασμό με πολιτική επιδίωξη της Ενωσης."
== Conscription in Greece ==


This information is confirmed in other text, including first hand infromation from Griva's colleagues in the anti-junta movement and even acknowledged by Makarios Drousiotis in his own books.] 12:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Ok, just to make a note: the {{:disputed}} tag is not a warning sign... you should really explain in the talk page what you disagree about. Thanks :) ] | <font size="1">] </font> 11:45, 11 June 2006 (UTC)


== About the see also in the KKE page ==
: The {{:disputed}} tag is only a warning to the user that that there's an active discussion about the topic in the talk page and that s/he should look there for further enlightenment on the point of disagreement. on the other hand, Template:TrollWarning *is* a warning label, like this: TrollWarning
: Even if it would be a warning sign, you *still* have to elaborate your point in the talk page, instead of requiring the user to divine the origin of the dispute. ] | <font size="1">] </font> 14:54, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


Hi. I saw your edit in the KKE page. Please note that there is a see also under the appropriate section in the article. Moreover, there is a link in the party's sidebar. The see also for KNE at the end of the page is really unnecessary. Please if you don't agree, before you revert it again, discuss it with me or in the article's talk page. Friendly, ] 09:33, 5 July 2007 (UTC)


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:: Dude, don't tell me, tell the visitors of the page, as in "start a new section and elaborate on your point of view". Thanks :) ] 11:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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:You're right, it did make the article better. We can't just pretend that copyright problems don't exist, though. If I get a chance I'll try coming up with a replacement myself. ] 16:31, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


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Με δουλεύεις; Έχεις αλλάξει όλο το άρθρο και μου ζητάς 'a source'; Find sources (in '''plural''') yourself before u revert again... Gosh! --] 18:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)


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Hi.
Saw your message on my talk page. I'm afraid I'm not an expert at all in Greek far right parties; I just have an interest in elections and politics in general. I think I've seen the name Nikolaos Michaloliakos somewhere before, but I don't know anything about him. You speak Greek, so why not write it yourself? --] 13:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
:Doesn't matter if your English isn't so good. You could write what you know about Michaloliakos in English, and I could copyedit it. That's no problem. --] 15:05, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


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== Σμύρνη ==


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Hi, don't misunderstand me I have no problems with Smyrna or Σμύρνη or the Greek heritage of the city but I think the modern name should be used in that article since the city became İzmir almost 5 centuries before the event.--] 17:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


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== Χρυσή Αυγή ==


== August 2007 ==
Γεια. Τα λινκς που εβαλες στο talk page μου, θα ηταν καλυτερα να τα προσθεσεις στο ιδιο το αρθρο. Αντι να σβησεις το κομματι οπως εκανες ειναι καλυτερα να παρουσιασεις την αποψη της Χρυσης Αυγης για το θεμα (την οποια οντως παρελειψα). Το κομματι το επανεφερα γιατι νομιζω οτι εχει ολα τα χαρακτηριστηκα που χρειαζεται (], ], ]) με την ελλειψη σαφως της αποψης της ΧΑ. Νομιζω οτι το σωστο θα ηταν αντι να το σβησεις εξ'αιτιας αυτης της ελλειψης, να το συμπληρωσεις. Τα λεω και στο talk page του αρθρου (στα αγγλικα για να καταλαβαινουν και οι μη ελληνοφωνοι). Φιλικα. --] ] 12:17, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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Και κατι αλλο. Βλεπω οτι χρησιμοποιεις πολυ το σαιτ του ENF σαν πηγη. Προσπαθησε οσο μπορεις να χρησιμοποιεις "ουδετερα" ΜΜΕ σαν πηγες. Αν ειδες και εγω εχω χρησιμοποιησει σαν πηγη το (μη ουδετερο) A-infos (των αναρχικων) πλην ομως το εκανα μονο και μονο για να πω οτι "Οι αντιφασιστες λενε οτι...". Τα λεμε --] ] 12:26, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


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Και κατι ακομα!! :) Σαν παρατηρηση και μονο, ειδες ποσο εχει αλλαξει το αρθρο απο χτες, ε? Εβγαλες το κομματι για τη συναγωγη στη Θεσσαλονικη, το ξαναβαλα με ρεφς, εβγαλες το κομματι για την αστυνομια το ξαναβαλα και εβαλες τα κομματια Activities και Attacks. Η διαφωνια κανει καλο στη wikipedia!!! Χεχε... --] ] 12:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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Τοτε, θα πρεπει να φαινεται και στο αρθρο οτι το ταδε το λεει οχι πχ το ΒΒC αλλα το ΕΝF (οπως εγω εβαλα οτι το ταδε το λενε οι αντιφασιστες). --] ] 12:35, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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===Φωτογραφιες===
Γεια ξανα. Φιλε εισαι σιγουρος οτι αυτες οι φωτογραφιες μπορουν να χρησιμοποιηθουν στη wikipedia? Εδω στη wikipedia ειναι πολυ αυστηροι με τα copyrights. Ενδεικτικα η φορμα με την οποια κανεις κανει upload εικονες λεει ενα σωρο πραγματα για αυτο το θεμα: http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Upload (στη φορμα αυτη μπορεις να πας και με το λινκ στο toolbox αριστερα κατω απο το search που λεει "Upload file").
Το βασικο ειναι οτι αν οι φωτογραφιες ανηκουν σε καποια εταιρεια (πχ ΑΠΕ, Reuters κτλ) ''δεν'' μπορουν να χρησιμοποιηθουν στη wikipedia λογω των copyrights. Αν παλι δεν ειναι ετσι τα πραγματα και εχεις για παραδειγμα ο ιδιος τραβηξει τη φωτογραφια (ή καποιος φιλος σου) μπορεις να την ανεβασεις και να την χρησιμοποιησουμε, με την προυποθεση οτι θα την ανεβασεις με ενα free licence (πχ GFDL ή CC) (αν ειναι του υποτιθεμενου φιλου σου θα πρεπει να συμφωνει και εκεινος). Περισσοτερα για το θεμα εδω: ]. Και εδω: ]


== Χρυσή Αυγή = Chrysi Avyi ==
Απο εκει και περα, αν ολα πανε καλα, μπορεις και εσυ μια χαρα να προσθεσεις τις φωτογραφιες στο κειμενο. Μπορεις να δεις πως εχουν μπει οι ηδη υπαρχουσες 3 εικονες στο αρθρο και να αντιγραψεις το wikisyntax ή μπορεις να διαβασεις και λιγο παραπανω: ], ].--] ] 21:57, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


Hi.
:Χεχε, ειναι πολυ απλο... Σωζεις την εικονα απο στο πισι σου και μετα την κανεις upload απο το πισι σου. Σου ξαναλεω ομως προσεχε τα copyrights. Και βασικο ειναι, αφου τα ανεβασεις να τους βαλεις ] αποκατω. --] ] 12:41, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

::Φιλε, ειναι πραγματικα πολυ απλο, πνιγεσαι σε μια κουταλια νερο... Πας στη φορμα upload file. Εκει που λεει Source filename εχει διπλα ενα κουμπι που λεει Browse. Πατας αυτο και σου βγαζει ενα κλασικο παραθυρο του λειτουργικου σου (πχ στα windows, του explorer) οπου πας και επιλεγεις απο τον υπολογιστη σου το αρχειο που θες. Το επιλεγεις και αυτοματα γεμιζει και το πεδιο Destination filename. Στο summary βαζεις το source (το antepithesh.net εν προκειμενω) και οτι αλλη πληροφορια για την εικονα θες. Μετα, απο το roll down μενου αποκατω που λεει Licensing, πας και επιλεγεις το καταλληλο tag. Μετα κανεις upload και εισαι ετοιμος. Btw, δεν το ανεβαζω εγω για πολυ συγκεκριμενο λογο: εφοσον δεν ξερω το copyright status της εικονας, σε περιπτωση που καποιος admin αποφασισει να την σβησει θα ερθει σε εμενα να με ρωτησει αν ειναι κατω απο free licence ή οχι και με ποιο rationale. Εφοσον λοιπον, δεν εχω ιδεα γιατι οι εικονες του antepithesh.net μπορουν να θεωρηθουν free δεν θελω να μπλεξω σε καποια τετοια ιστορια. Οι αλλες δυο εικονες που ανεβασα απο το σαιτ της ΧΑ, ηξερα ακριβως ποιο ειναι το copyright status τους και τι tags επρεπε να χρησιμοποιησω και για ποιο λογο η χρηση του ειναι fair use και γιαυτο το εκανα. Σορι αν ακουγομαι λιγο παρανοικος με το θεμα του copyright αλλα εχει μου τυχει αρκετες φορες να σβηστουν εικονες που εχω ανεβασει και μετα να γεμιζει το talk page μου με warnings απο admins. Πχ δες . --] ] 18:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Δες και εδω: ] και εδω --] ] 18:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Α και κατι αλλο. Στο αρθρο εχεις φτιαξει την παραγραφο Ιdeology και σαν πηγη για οσα εχεις γραψει, αναφερεις το παλιο σαιτ της ΧΑ. Καλο και αγιο αυτο, αλλα που το βρηκες το παλιο σαιτ? Υπαρχουν τα κειμενα του πουθενα στο ιντερνετ? Υπαρχουν πουθενα δημοσιευμενα? Παντα οταν αναφερομαστε σε κατι πρεπει αυτο το κατι ο οποιοσδηποτε να μπορει να το ελεγξει μονος του. Ενα λινκ, ή κατι το οποιο εχει δημοσιευτει (βιβλιο, αρθρο εφημεριδας/περιοδικου, φυλλαδιο κτλ) συνηθως κανουν. Θα μπορουσε καποιος κακοπιστος να ισχυριστει οτι αφου αναφερεσαι σε σαιτ που δεν υπαρχει και δεν δινεις κανενα λινκ, αυτα που λες τα βγαζεις απο το κεφαλι σου. --] ] 18:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

The article has the tag for a reason. See , , and . His edits have not been reverted, so the tag should stay. &mdash;<span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">]</span> 22:04, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

:Because it's kinda messed up to rollback on someone's edits when it appeared they worked long and hard to fill the article with bias and POV. That's what I did to him on ], but it's not something I enjoy doing often. &mdash;<span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">]</span> 22:47, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

==Article you might be interested in==

I thought, since you are a proud Greek, that you might like to contribute to the article Homosexuality in Ancient Greece. Something has to be said to argue against the contents of the article.] 07:42, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


==Image:Imia06 2.jpg==
Hi, you uploaded the above image, and it says that it's taken from a website. Did you create the image, or simply download it? Thanks for any clarification. --] 17:54, 3
September 2006 (UTC)

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Καλησπέρα! Βλέπω το ενδιαφέρον σου για άρθρα της νεότερης και σύγχρονης ελληνικής ιστορίας. Γι' αυτό σκέφτηκε ότι ίσως θα επιθυμούσες να συμμετάσχεις και να συνεισφέρεις στο WikiProject History of Greece; που μόλις δημιουργήθηκε. Θα χαρώ να σε δω εκεί!--] 17:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

:Προσθέτοντας το όνομά σου στα member και, ακολούθως, συνεισφέροντας όπου κρίνεις σκόπιμο και κάνοντας και τις δικές σου προτάσεις.--] 17:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

== Mitsara ==

Ekana thn arxh. Apanthste eseis twra, alla monon me phges kai kamia epixeirhmatologia. Ok? ] 09:55, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

==Disruptive editing==

You must cease immediately from editing disruptively, or you will be blocked from editing. Remakrs such as "It's not a minority and nationalist position it's a historical fact. The Pontian Genocide did happen and you 'll better admit it", are not acceptable. Please adhere to ]. ] 08:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
:You've been blocked from editing for 24 hrs due to the removal of the tags; I already told you that, at this stage, it counts as vandalism. ] 13:50, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
::You have been blocked from editing for 72 hours for removing the tags again. ] 22:14, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

== Aaaax Mhtso ==

Re Mhtso? Ti selida htan ayth pou eixes? htan mia kalh arxh, alla fobamai oti h zhmia pou exei proklh8ei einai anepanor8wth (panta yparxei h istoria ths selidas sou). Lypamai pou sou to lew, alla akomh ki an eixa tis pepoi8hseis aytes, 8a frontiza toulaxiston na tis krataw kryfes edw! Kaneis perissoterh zhmia apo kalo. Pistepse me, tous exw faei me to koutali edw. To an exoun dikio h' oxi einai mia allh istoria. ] 10:28, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

:Exeis dikio. Den eprepe na krinw tis apopseis sou dhmosia. Afairesa kai twn dyo mas ta sxolia, ka8oti monon kalo den kanoun sth syzhthsh. Gia to 8ema ths selidas sou 8a syzhthsoume idiaiterws argotera. Den afora tous Pontious, alla dystyxws xrhsimopoih8hke ekei apo 2 xrhstes. Gi ayto sou eipa oti den boh8aei h selida sou. An 8es, steile mou mail. ] 13:31, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

== Turkish Republic of Western Thrace ==

Dear Mitsos,

It is very hard to understand your logic. "If you dont know anything about something then these things coulndnot take place". Please investigate Near History of Greece also.Greece was first country that recognized that state.
Please take look references of that article, I am sure that some of your friends knows Turkish.
Whenever I find English references, I will place them also.
Regards.
] 20:24, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

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== Your edit to ] ==

Mitsos, I'm not sure how closely you've been following the dicussion at ], but your edit to this article removed some text that was the result of extensive discussion, and replaced it with a version pushed by a banned user. I have reverted your edits, but if you feel that the article is unsatisfactory, you would be welcome to discuss changes at the article's talk page. Thanks. ] (]) 15:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

== Καταστροφή της Σμύρνης ==

That's what I was trying to explain to you, but I gave up because you were so fixed on removing the dispute tag. So, I let you have it your way. &mdash;<span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">]]</span> 20:52, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

== Allied War Crimes ==

Hello, and thanks for your note. Please see the section headed 'Crimes and Acts of War' on the ] talk page for my original point on this question. Move it down to your new section, if you wish. My essential point is that this whole argument verges on the edge of a moral abyss, where there is no objective difference between genocide and genuine acts of war. I do not accept the reliability or objectivity of those sources who seek to confuse this issue; and therefore the disputed tag should remain.
] 22:56, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

== Pontian greek genocide ==

Colleague, this page not the only one with an acute clash of opinions. Take Israel-Palestine for an example. Only community can resolve disagreements. Unilateral actions of admins are not the way of solving conflicts. What makes you believe that Turkish position is 100% wrong and Greek position is 100% right? May be Greeks are right only for 85%? Please take a look into ]. `'] ] 16:34, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922) ==

Mitso, this is bad wikiquette. For one, you should use edit summaries, especially when you revert: flat reverts, especially when some debate has taken place is a really rude thing to do. Other wikipedians give their reasons for doing the edits they do and then you come in, as a deus ex machina and do a flat revert, as if you had the ultimate authority, the ultimate truth or something. Apart from that, and regarding the actual issue of the revert, there is really no point in talking about the "Turkish view", unless you can back it with some evidence. Are you talking about the Turkish government? About some Turkish historian? What is it that makes it the "Turkish view"? If you think that to say that greeks used a scorched earth policy paints greeks in a bad light, that does not make it a turkish view. Moreover, the whole thing is attributed to a specific person, a brit m'lud historian. Readers do have minds of their own and can determine weather a guy who has written a hagiography for Kemal is biased against the greeks or not. In short, the wiki is not a war, treat other wikipedians with common courtesy. And remember something else: "Εθνικόν το Αληθές". --] ] 17:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

== just stopping to say hello ==

Hello, I just wanted to say I like your user page and the general attitude it conveys. ] 09:46, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
:See my talk page for a lengthy reply. ] 11:20, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:and again... ] 14:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:and again... ] 16:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:You may be interested in ]. ''I felt like a Nazi, but it had to be done.'' ]] 21:13, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

== Ρε Μήτσο! ==

Σε παρακαλώ, σταμάτα τα ρατσιστικά σχόλια! Δεν έχουν απήχηση και κάνουν κακό. Κράτα σε παρακαλώ τις αντιλήψεις σου για τον εαυτό σου! Θέλεις να φας μπλόκ? Θέλεις να λένε οτι όλοι οι Έλληνες είναι ρατσιστές? Θέλεις να χάσουμε όλες τις ψηφοφορίες και όλα τα θέματα? Αφού το βλέπεις, όλοι αντιδρούν σε αυτά που λες, γιατί το ξανακάνεις? Ενεργοποίησε το μειλ σου στις προτιμήσεις αν δεν το έχεις κάνει, θέλω να σου μιλήσω ιδιαιτέρως. ] 14:34, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

:Δεν πειράζει εσένα, αλλά πειράζει εμένα. Θέλω να σου μιλήσω ιδιαιτέρως. Αν έχεις την καλοσύνη, δήλωσε ενα μειλ στα πρεφερενς. Αν σκέφτεσαι οτι μπορεί να χρησιμοποιήσω το μειλ για οποιοδήποτε άλλο λόγο, κάνεις λάθος. Παρ'όλα αυτά, μπορείς να δημιουργήσεις εντελώς ανώνυμες διευθύνσεις, που να μη συνδέονται καθόλου μαζί σου. Ενδεικτικά δες το www.1net.gr . ] 13:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

::Κανένα μπινελίκι, το αντίθετο μάλιστα. Και να το διαγράψεις, μένει στην . Στη γουικιπίντια τίποτα δεν σβήνεται! Καλά, τί σε πειράζει να γράψεις το μειλ σου, αφού δεν μπορεί να το δει κανένας, εκτός από αυτούς στους οποίους στέλνεις? Ειδικά όταν αυτό θα είναι και ανώνυμο και ασύνδετο με σένα? ] 14:06, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

We (me, you, all) are from 1% to 99% racist in some way or another. We've all mocked, not hired, not dated or whatever a fat, a silly, a slow, an old, a bold, an ugly, a thin, a whatever person. We even mock, judge, discriminate against racists, nationalists, communists, capitalists, socialists and radicals in our private conversations. And then, we categorize ourselves with those who are against racism. Just because we have the ability to hide those discriminating thoughts even from ourselves. Guess what: Mitsos doesn't. I respect that. I disagree (because I have to?) but I respect it. Now go do your business all of you, and let the man think openly what he wants (and face what society reserves for those who do it). ] 22:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

ΗΡΕΜΗΣΤΕ ΡΕ!!! ΕΛΕΟΣ!! Επεσε ολοκληρο το ελληνικο λομπι πανω μου!!!!! '''Σε ] να πατε να κανετε κηρυγμα!''' Αμαν πια! Νικο οτι θες να μου πεις πεσ'το εδω ελευθερα. ] 09:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

:Μα σου απάντησα οτι δεν θέλω να πω δημοσίως πράγματα που αφορούν ''εμένα''.] 10:24, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

::Δεν θέλω να δω τι κάνουν οι άλλοι. Εγώ, δεν μιλάω για τα προσωπικά μου στη γουίκι. Δες το 1νετ, και πάτα ''Subscribe now'' σε αυτή τη σελίδα: http://www.1net.gr/1netmail.shtml . Οκ? ] 10:32, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Mitso, pigene . Den hriazete na valis ta alithina su stihia (vale os onoma "Mistos Mitsaras" px) ;-) --] 10:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Exw mail sto yahoo me ta kanonika stoixeia. Tha ftiaksw sto allo kai tha sto dosw. ] 10:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

:Sto word verification nomizw grafeis ekeinh thn epithdes sygkexymenh le3h pou fainetai sthn eikona. To e-mail pou 8a ftia3eis mhn to 'dwseis' se kanena. Apla, otan 8a to egkatasthseis sta preference, 8a mporeis kai esy na stelneis (kai oi alloi na sou stelnoun) xwris pote kaneis na dei th diey8.e-mail sou, an den tou apanthseis! ] 13:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

::Mitso den to leei to panepisthmio! Kapoio mirror sto site tou panepisthmiou einai. Asto se parakalw... ] 20:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Re. that picture caption: I argued with Niko and the others over that previously; since you didn't have access to that discussion, here's it again for you:


Perhaps you are not familiar with el->en transliteration, but ''Hrisi Avgi'' is certainly incorrect. Innacurate may be a better word and pretty dense, really. ''χ'' is transliterated as ''ch'' when it precedes a consanant: hence, '''''Χ'''ρήστος'' becomes '''''Ch'''ristos'' and ''Ψυ'''χ'''ράμη'' accordingly becomes ''Psy'''ch'''rami''. Similarly, '''''Χ'''αράλαμπος'' is better as '''''H'''aralambos'' rather than '''''Ch'''aralambos'' (which is still often used (mistakenly, in my view)). English words deriving from Greek follow this rule (''oligar'''ch'''y'' from ''ολιγαρ'''χ'''ία'', ''anar'''ch'''y'' from ''αναρ'''χ'''ία'')
Attributing the picture "to the University of Western
Thrace" is a cheap trick of using "university" to give the picture an aura of pseudo-authority. But the source doesn't have such an authority, at all.


As for ''γ'', in cases where it precedes ''ε'' and ''ι'' '''sounds''' (not necessarily the same letters), it is usually transliterated as ''y'' ('''''Γι'''''άννης -> '''''Y'''''annis; ''Πανα'''γι'''ώτης'' -> ''Pana'''y'''otis''). Having said that, '''''Gi'''annis'' and ''Pana'''gi'''otis'' are still utilised, which is extremely lazy and ignorant, in my view. I have spoken in the past with professional el,->en translators who agree. Transliteration is a matter of transferring the ''sounds'' of one language to another as best as possible. The fact that ''γι''/''γε'' do not sound as ''gi/ge'' obviously reflect this.
That site it's taken from is apparently *hosted* (maybe just mirrored) by a
web server of the university. That doesn't mean the university is the author
of its contents or even that it endorses it.


And finally, ''υ'' can acceptably be transcribed as ''i'', but an art of transliteration is that one can know and recognise a letter in its origin language - using ''y'' for ''υ'' is already in practise and differentiates it from ''ι''.
Even if it was, a university (as an abstract institution) isn't a reliable
and authoritative source to quote about history. A notable named academic
historian *working for* a university is a reliable source. The university
itself has no business having opinions about history. In academic life, only
people have academic credentials, institutions don't. It's like the pope
making a pronouncement about tomorrow's weather, we're not going to quote
that either.


My good work on grammatical errors, unnecessary tautological sentences (that was somewhat tautological in itself, wasn't it?), re-wording, and additional information was reverted, which i feel is a bit inane. I shall revert the article back to how I did it.
The website is a blatant propaganda site, anonymous, has no author
attribution, nothing. It's the very model of what is *not* a reliable
source.


] 18:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
And even if we knew its author, and even if he was trustworthy, he couldn't possibly be a reliable source
about what the picture is showing. He has himself no way of knowing, since
he can't have been present when it was taken. The only way for this to
acquire a reliable meaning is if we are given photographer, date, place, and
reference to its ''original'' publication. The fact that the website doesn't
give such a source is a ''very'' bad sign. Until we have such information, the
only thing we know is it shows dead people.


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"Hrisi Avgi" origin of name

I see you have removed the origin I provided for the name of Greeek ultra-nationalist organisation Hrisi Avgi. (I wrote: "The name derives from the era of dictator Ioannis Metaxas, whose regime promised a new, golden dawn for Greek civilisation, following the glories of antiquity.") Could you, then, please explain what you believe to be the correct origin of their name? The Gnome 05:55, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Grivas biography

This is the relevant section from the Karousos interview in Vima regarding Grivas' anti-junta activities:

"Συγκρότησε στην Ελλάδα αντιστασιακή Οργάνωση. Αποκαλύφθηκε και διώχθηκε με τους συνεργάτες του (Οπρόπουλος-Μουστακλής-Λύτρας, κύπριοι επιστήμονες και φοιτητές). Μετά τη ναυάγηση της προσπάθειάς του αυτής και με σύμφωνη γνώμη αντιστασιακών προσωπικοτήτων αποδέχθηκε αποστολή καθόδου του στην Κύπρο για επιβοήθηση Οργάνωσης από εκεί νέας αντιστασιακής προσπάθειας, σε συνδυασμό με πολιτική επιδίωξη της Ενωσης."

This information is confirmed in other text, including first hand infromation from Griva's colleagues in the anti-junta movement and even acknowledged by Makarios Drousiotis in his own books.Larisv 12:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

About the see also in the KKE page

Hi. I saw your edit in the KKE page. Please note that there is a see also under the appropriate section in the article. Moreover, there is a link in the party's sidebar. The see also for KNE at the end of the page is really unnecessary. Please if you don't agree, before you revert it again, discuss it with me or in the article's talk page. Friendly, Magioladitis 09:33, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

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Χρυσή Αυγή = Chrysi Avyi

Hi.

Perhaps you are not familiar with el->en transliteration, but Hrisi Avgi is certainly incorrect. Innacurate may be a better word and pretty dense, really. χ is transliterated as ch when it precedes a consanant: hence, Χρήστος becomes Christos and Ψυχράμη accordingly becomes Psychrami. Similarly, Χαράλαμπος is better as Haralambos rather than Charalambos (which is still often used (mistakenly, in my view)). English words deriving from Greek follow this rule (oligarchy from ολιγαρχία, anarchy from αναρχία)

As for γ, in cases where it precedes ε and ι sounds (not necessarily the same letters), it is usually transliterated as y (Γιάννης -> Yannis; Παναγιώτης -> Panayotis). Having said that, Giannis and Panagiotis are still utilised, which is extremely lazy and ignorant, in my view. I have spoken in the past with professional el,->en translators who agree. Transliteration is a matter of transferring the sounds of one language to another as best as possible. The fact that γι/γε do not sound as gi/ge obviously reflect this.

And finally, υ can acceptably be transcribed as i, but an art of transliteration is that one can know and recognise a letter in its origin language - using y for υ is already in practise and differentiates it from ι.

My good work on grammatical errors, unnecessary tautological sentences (that was somewhat tautological in itself, wasn't it?), re-wording, and additional information was reverted, which i feel is a bit inane. I shall revert the article back to how I did it.

Cypriot stud 18:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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