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	== psychologist, sociologist ==

	She is psychologist, sociologist,] (]) 12:08, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

	== ] isn't ''fringe'' ==

	It's quoted by the Center . Poor Center, with friends like Icewhiz they will loose.
	] (]) 10:34, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

	== ''Dzieje Najnowsze'' is academic ==

	Please don't remove the reference.] (]) 07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

	== unclear what this is about or why it needs to be included ==

	Maybe you should read something to obtain a clear view?] (]) 07:19, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

	== POV ==

	Any critics by Gontarczyk is being remved but prizes by Chrobaczyński are quoted. ] (]) 07:30, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
	:''Czy bracia Hryć byli polskimi mordercami Żydów? Czyli uwagi na temat naukowej wiarygodności badań prof. Barbary Engelking'' - ~''Were Hryć brothers Polish killers of Jews? Remrks regarding academic reliability of Professor Barbara Engelking's research''.] (]) 06:28, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

	== You know what's a BLP vio? ==

	Derisively calling a bone fide historian a "radio historian" just because he gave an interview on the radio. More to the point the very idea that just "speaking on the radio" turns an actual historian into a non-reliable radio historian is so freakin' absurd that it's hard to see how anyone could advance such an argument with a straight face. ] just interviewed some Pulitzer winning authors. Does that turn them from "authors" into "radio-authors".

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	Can we stop with this nonsense please? Putting up with it is quite tiresome.] (]) 03:12, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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	: Regular appearences actually, not one. Please show why Gontarczyk's radio interview is DUE, given Gontarczyk's record in these matters and coverage of Gontarczyk - who works in the archive of the much maligned IPN - {{tq\|"After 2015 the IPN converted into an institution promoting revisionism in reference to Polish-Jewish relations. Previously open attitudes to research and teaching about the Holocaust were amended.}}. If we were to include opinions of IPN personnel, then we would have to start with an introduction on the present (as opposed to early 2000s) fringe status of the IPN.] (]) 06:40, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
	::Gontarczyk is a professional historian. "Much maligned IPN" is your own POV and bias. Not even gonna take that extremist nonsense form you seriously.] (]) 15:06, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

			==Comment==
	== May 2019 edits ==
			* '''What I think should be changed''': "In February 2021, a Warsaw court ruled that Grabowski and Engelking must apologize for their claims about Malinowski (the sołtys of the Polish village of Malinowo), in Dalej jest noc, but it did not order them to pay compensation. Grabowski and Engelking will appeal the verdict. The Polish Center for Holocaust Research published a detailed response by Engelking to the accusations and trial." should be updated to reflect the international condemnation and the successful appeal of this shameful verdict.
			* '''Why it should be changed''': sources
			* '''References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button)''':

			] (]) 13:44, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
	Preserving here by providing . See on my Talk page why some of the edits were problematic. On more recent edits, IIRC, the chapter in question was written by a contributor; this material is coatrack for this BLP and belongs in the article on the book. --] (]) 14:36, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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			:] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a ] if appropriate.<!-- Template:EEp --> ] (]) 20:13, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

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What I think should be changed: "In February 2021, a Warsaw court ruled that Grabowski and Engelking must apologize for their claims about Malinowski (the sołtys of the Polish village of Malinowo), in Dalej jest noc, but it did not order them to pay compensation. Grabowski and Engelking will appeal the verdict. The Polish Center for Holocaust Research published a detailed response by Engelking to the accusations and trial." should be updated to reflect the international condemnation and the successful appeal of this shameful verdict.
Why it should be changed: sources
References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

80.51.76.250 (talk) 13:44, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

References

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:13, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

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