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==Shadowrun wiki==
Jestem mattness -


==Lurking stats ==
Witaj, Piotrze.
<br>Znalazłem cię poprzez Twoje wpisy w , anglojęzycznej wiki o Shadowrun RPG.
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<br>Tak się składa, że sam prowadzę wiki o tym systemie, ale po polsku (tak. Wiem, że bliższy jest Ci EDek, niż SR.).
! Page views for this talk page over the last 90 days
<br>Widzę, że masz doświadczenie w posługiwaniu się wiki. Byłbym wdzięczny, gdybyś rzucił okiem na , i podzielił się uwagami (sam nie wiem, jak ulepszyć nawigację po niej :( ).

Jeszcze jedno - z założenia NIE LOGUJĘ się na wikipedii - dlatego najlepiej po prostu skomentuj na stronach dyskusji, bądź na .<br>
W razie czego jest jeszcze mail: mattness@op.pl

Pozdrawiam i z niecierpliwością czekam na opinię.

mattness

== Kaczism problems ==

Redirect pages blocked me from moving Kaczyzm to Kaczism. Thus I was forced to copy&paste it again. Additionally article was IPA corrected by me, thus reverting would waste new good changes in it. Please move old Kaczyzm history to Kaczism history.<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

==Commons endanger Wikipedias==
Piotrus, as per , please, as a courtesy, do not tag my images such that they are deleted from enwiki with the copy left in commons only. Commons, being largely ruled by copyright freaks represent a true danger for Misplaced Pages as those fellas change their rules as they see fit based on the whims of certain unsatisfied in the real life ambitions of becoming copyright lawyers or otherwise being in a position to tell others what to do.

I can reasonably defend most images in en-wiki, whose whatchlist I check regularly, but if the image gets copied to commons, then (based on the copy being present in commons) deleted from enwiki, and ''then'' due to another twist of mind by Lupo or his likes becomes ineligible for commons and gets deleted, it becomes totally gone from wikispace and all info on the source becomes lost as well, since I don't keep local copies and lists of sources of all images I upload.

As per this, each action of an image being copied to commons from Misplaced Pages thretens to reduce the amount of useful content rather than enriches that. If you need an image in Polish Wiki, make a local copy there as you see fit. Of course I cannot demand an exceptional treatment of images I upload since there is no policy that authorizes me to demand anything in connection with free license images but I hope you see the reasons of my request and will honor it as a courtesy to me.

I have always viewed commons with suspicion due to the paranoiac attitudes that was prevalent there and mostly avoided uploading anything to commons. But nevertheless, due to the series of the catastrophes perpetrated by certain wannabe experts some of the images I uploaded to Misplaced Pages are lost forever as someone copied them to commons (with best intentions), someone else tagged them redundant ''after that'', then someone yet else whimsically decided that the acceptable image is no more acceptable and deleted it from commons. To make a long story short, please do not do it if possible. --] 06:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:Correct me if I am wrong, but can't deleted images on enwiki be undeleted now? -- ] ] 19:28, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

::They can. Of course you have to be an admin.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 19:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

::The problem is not an undeletion. The problem is tracking. If I see the image frivolously deleted, I can request an undeletion. But note that the deletion does not show up in the watchlist and the corpses of deleted images are removed from articles by bots in no time. I cannot possibly keep track of every image all the time. ] 00:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

You know I share your sentiment on copyright paranoia, and I completely agree that the recent deletion of SovietPD can only be described as a catastrophe. Nonetheless I would like to think that eventually all images egligible for PD and other free licences will be nicely organized on Commons. I have found in the past that if an image is deleted from commons, a friendly admin can restore it so I can either correct the missing source/copyright info or take it to wiki for fair use. If I see your image, I will ask you before tagging it with NC in the future - but perhaps we can have some sort of a tag that sais 'although this image is in Commons, please leave a local copy here'? On another note, which version do you think is better: ] or ]?--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 17:18, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:I am afraid your solution is not universal. How do you know that images eligible for free license will remain eligible forever if the rules are changed on the whim by a certain cabal motivated by anything '''but''' the content (see my past comment). Additionally, commons rules may change to, say, allow only images that are free worldwide. How do you know then that what's PD in US is also PD in Fiji? Are you sure there are no countries with copyright terms of 300 years past the author's death. I cannot predict other possible twists in the minds of Lupo and his likes. The safest way is to avoid commons. If you want to play with it, it is your business. I only request that you do not endanger my images by copying them to commons. You are free to ignore my request as I don't own any of the images I uploaded. It is just a request for a personal favor. --] 00:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

==Soviet invasion of Poland (1939) and DYK==
It was originally in the template, but due to the short right-hand side of the Main Page, I commented it out. It's still there (see ), and I left a note at the time for the next updating admin to include it. Apologies for the trouble caused. ] <sup>]</sup>⁄<sub>]</sub> <small>&bull;&nbsp;18:10, 15 November 2006 (UTC)</small>

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== Bad style? ==

Hello. You wrote on my talk-page:

Please don't link to other wikipedias like this; this is bad style. Most of those articles have articles on English wikipedia which are linked properly to Polish one - so please remove the :pl: links, and instead add English wikipedia links, like this. Thanks! -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 02:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

All I did is add links to where there was no links at all. In my oppinion active links (to a term explained in a foreign language) are better than nothing. I will check though if any of those terms are featured in the English Misplaced Pages. Poeticbent 03:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Właśnie sprawdziłem. Haseł tych nie ma w angielskiej Wikipedii. Pozdrawiam.

You searched for Sąd Najwyższy No page with that title exists.

Poeticbent 03:16, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Poeticbent"

Proszę usunąć moje aktywne linki samemu, jeżeli uważa je Pan za zbędne. Chciałem pomóc naszej stronie na ile byłem w stanie, bo spełnia ona rolę nie tylko informacyjną, lecz także pomocniczą.
Kłaniam się

] 03:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Obawiam się, że nie zrozumiał Pan moich intencji. Proszę sprawdzić w angielskiej Wikipedii następujące hasła:

Sąd Najwyższy

Naczelny Sąd Administracyjny

Trybunał Konstytucyjny

Trybunał Stanu

Rzecznik Praw Obywatelskich

Są to zwroty polskie, których nie ma w angielskiej Wikipedii, bowiem znajdują się tam wyłącznie ich angielskie tłumaczenia. Skoro podajemy polską wersję tych zwrotów, możemy podać także linki na strony, gdzie są one użyte w języku polskim.

Jeżeli moja motywacja nie przekonuje Pana jednak, możemy wrócić do początku i uczynić te zwroty martwymi.

Pozdrawiam
] 04:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

*Skoro twierdzi Pan, że „zwyczajowo” nie linkuje się polskich zwrotów do polskiej Wikipedii wobec tego pomogę Panu i usunę te linki sam. Jednocześnie zwracam uwagę, że nie istnieje możliwość użycia funkcji „Redirect” w wypadku zwrotu, który nie jest aktywny, jak pokazane przeze mnie polskie słowa z nawiasów. ] 04:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Proszę pójść na stronę i zobaczyć, które linki są, a których nie ma. ] 05:00, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Moje gratulacje. Sprawę linków uważam za zamkniętą. ] 05:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

I removed this image from ] and tagged it as replaced orphaned fair use, because there's already ] of the original edition's cover. No offense, but I think fair use images should be avoided unless absolutely necessary. If you disagree with my actions, please ]. --] 06:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

:I have replied to your message on ]. --] 08:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

== fr ==

''Pardon my french'', mais mon anglais n'est pas terrible ;-) Ouis, pourquoi pas. Enfin, je peux rien promettre, surtout au niveau de la vitesse. Mais si tu a des idees, n'hesite pas a me signaler, de temps a l'autre. --] ] 12:14, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
: Oh, Piotrus, I'm a native speaker of koalang ;-) I've seen your post ''there'' and I've already tried to respond to it positively ;-) As for userboxes - now you know me well and this is far enough ;-)--] ] 17:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:: Yes, I know... Still ''hesitating'', though. For example, someone could be surprised with what I declare ;-) More seriously, I see too much nationalism here and I prefer not to publish ''any'' personal stuff (there are some other reasons too). Many users do the same. Maybe when I get more accustomed to, I'll change my mind. :-) --] ] 18:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::BTW, If you speak my native language we could use it from time to time ;-)
:::Probably, you're right. We'll see. Anyway I ''try'' to subscribe to this: ''Most people assume the fights are going to be the left versus the right, but it always is the reasonable versus the jerks'' (guess the source). Actually, nowadays, even German natives become "Polish nationalists" ;-) I think ] will make you smile :-) Best, --] ] 23:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:ca y est. On verra bien ce que ca donne ;-) --] ] 14:52, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:More precisely, I've translated a fragment from frwiki. Otherwise, frwiki is not that much different from what can be found here. --] ] 14:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

Just a comment about this bishop, as I just came across him in a book and then went to the wiki article. Robert Bartlett, in his award winning work, ''The Making of Europe: Conquest, Colonization and Cultural Change, 950-1350'', writes the following:
:"Racial animosities surfaced in a clear-cut form in the dispute between Archbishop Swinka and Bishop John of Cracow, which culminated in the bishop's suspension in 1308. The charges brought against the bishop, by members of his own chapter among others, include the accusation that 'he is attempting to expel the lord Wladyslaw, duke of Cracow, the true heir, from his land, and to expel the Polish people and to introduce aliens into their works and possessions'. He supposedly affirmed: 'If I cannot complete what I have begun and expel the Polish people, I would rather die than live'. A recurrent charge, raised by no less than ten of the witnesses in the commission of inquiry, was his failure to appoint Poles to ecclesiastical office: 'he does not promote the Polish people, but foreigners and Germans; 'he does not promote worthy Poles, saying that they are unfit for benefices'; 'he does not promote Poles born in the land but foreign Germans' ... 'he has placed virtually none but Germans in the church of Cracow'." (pp. 224-5, with notes on p. 267 giving the individual citations.)
This presumably means he was not Polish, no, or not a Polish-speaking one at least (the article implies he was)? He certainly seems to be an interesting character, and this whole inquest looks like it would make an interesting article. '''] ('']'')''' 22:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

== Kiev ==

I will most surely fix redirs. I was goind to this right away, but decided to see how the talks go in ]. `'] 23:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

==Katyn censorship==
Dear Piotrus,
thank you for your message. While we are at it,
I want to mention to you that your censorship of
Katyn pages does not look nice. In fact it made
me think that the revisionist theory (that all
documents were forged by KGB, trying to discredit
Communism) is likely to be true. Otherwise there
would not be any reason for anybody to censor it.

I would not go into deletion wars with you,
of course, but I will mention this to some people.

Best regards
] 23:44, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

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==]==
There are several issues that the WikiProject needs to address.
#Do we need a ] (or more than one) to coordinate our efforts and act as an arbiter? Please place your thoughts ].
#Could someone work on archiving the talk page ]?
#Do we need to develop ] for the ]?
#Finally, could you please weigh in on the following discussions so we can move them to conclusion:
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Sincerely,
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==Katyn==
Add link about stalin dying at 10 pm on march 5th 1953, under trivial, i do not see that, i suggest, you as a polish dude, brush up on your history.<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 16:43, November 18, 2006.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
:Dear anon, please see ].--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 20:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

== Gaius Julius ==
Et tu, Brute ... (...contra me?)] 20:58, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

== 64.107.3.104 ==
Thank you for taking action about this user. He edits from several IPs and has been a nusiance on the ] article for several days. --] 21:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
:Please note that user is evading block by editing as {{ipvandal|66.99.3.172}}. You can see the edit history of ] to see how the two are making the exact same edits in order to advance an edit war. He also edits as 66.99.3.172, 64.107.2.2, 66.99.1.109, 66.99.0.8, and 64.107.1.221. --] 22:23, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Drobna uwaga ==

Proszę wybaczyć, ale „Talk page” jest jedynym prywatnym podwórkiem każdego Wikipedysty. To miejsce, gdzie sami decydujemy o wszystkim. Osobiście lubię mieć moją własną stronę czystą. Prawo to mam zagwarantowane regułami portalu. Oto odnośny cytat:

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“The does not apply to the user's own Talk page, where users generally are permitted to remove and archive comments at their discretion…”

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Jedną z przyczyn mojej decyzji o nie zachowywaniu treści roboczych rozmów jest to, że rejestrowane są one przez wszystkie poszukiwarki (jak np. Google), co bardzo mnie irytuje.

] 10:29, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

* Mam nadzieję, że nie poczuł się Pan urażony moją raczej niestandardową postawą w tej sprawie. Zarazem dziękuję Panu za ładny wpis na mojej stronie na temat „contributions related to Poland”. Ten wpis pragnę sobie zachować w drodze wyjątku.
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Pozdrawiam ] 17:58, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
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'''Re: Prawo'''<br>

Wolność Tomku, oczywiście.--<br>
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== Prośba ==

:Mam prośbę. Nie wiem jak stworzyć odpowiedni link do artykułu, który stworzyłem. Tytuł artykułu brzmi: ]. Chciałbym aby linkował się on także z hasła: ]. Z góry dziękuję za pomoc. ] 20:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Przepraszam za zamieszanie, ale sam nauczyłem się w międzyczasie, jak to zrobić. Wykorzystałem funkcję „move” dwukrotnie tak, aby tytuł powieści Tadeusza Dołęgi-Mostowicza linkował się z trzech alternatyw.

Pozdrawiam raz jeszcze. ] 22:17, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

== Polish-Russian Wars ==

OK, I created ] (I took liberties with the name, hope you don't mind). It's kind of plain now, but we can work on that. ] (]) 21:21, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

:Piotrus, would you want me to make another overall review specifically for you to explain why the incorrect usage of the M. word as a substitute for Russia is not just wrong but also offensive and POVish? I did that a couple of times, but I can do it for you again if you need such an overview. For now, compare ] with ]. --] 03:42, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Please do (or provide a link to a place you did that); bear in mind I'd like to see a reference for that being offensive, and I'd expect that issue to be discussed in the article on ] itself. For the record, I don't use this term to offend, and I think it's as applicable and non-offensive as using 'Polish-Lithuanian' for the times of PLC.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 03:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I am afraid, I cannot quickly come up with a bunch of English language sources here (will do if you insist) but the issue is ''very similar'' to the Little Russia/Ukraine terminological dispute. Both are proper when used in the right context and imporper and offensive when used in the wrong one. Part of the problem is the claim that the Rus-rooted term was usurped by the Moscow rulers, whose state and its successors (including the modern RU empire and even modern Russa) has nothing to do with Kievan Rus legacy, which whole and fully belongs to Ukraine and, perhaps, Belarus, while the Muscovites are not even East Slavs, but have originated from ... (pick the version you like: Mongols from the east, Finno-Ugric tribes of the north, frogs and snakes from the swamps, etc.)

It is not uncommon at the Ukrainian nationalist web-sites to not ever encounter the word "Russian people" or "Russian government", but only "the Muscovites" or the "Muscovite authorities".

Similarly, using ] interchangeable to the ] in the context of the 18th and most of the 19th century (and earlier), reflects the proper usage. Using the term Little Russian as a substitute of Ukrainian language in the later context, is not just improper but is often done on purpose to imply that such language does not exist. --] 04:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

:Beware of ]. For example, Polish ''moskal'' is offensive and derives from ''Moskwa'' (Polish for Moscow) - but that doesn't mean Muscovite, deriving from Muscovy, has the same derogatory meaning in English. If you have refs to prove that it does I will immediatly stop using it, otherwise I will stick with what seems to be majority of English academics.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 21:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

== Dwie rzeczy do naprawy ==

:Gratuluje szybkieko opanowania "move", dwie rzeczy o ktorych trzeba pamietac:
*avoid ]
*use ]
--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 03:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Dzięki. ] 03:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Niestety nic z tego nie rozumiem.

'''How to fix a double redirect'''

Suppose page title A redirects to B which in turn redirects to C.
Follow a link to A. You will see a page containing: (a) the page title B; (b) a large link to C; (c) a very small notice in the corner saying "redirected from A".
Click the "A" in "redirected from A".
You will see a page containing: (a) the page title A; (b) a large link to B.
Click "Edit this page" and change B to C.

Pozdrawiam ] 04:11, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

:Prosze klinkac na ] i zobaczyc gdzie ta strona nas zaprowadzi.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 04:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Zrobione. "Double redirect" jest poprawiony. ] 14:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

== Recovered Territories ==

Should I understand that your concept is in English speaking counties the possession of Recovered Territories by Poland is not accepted? If so check the atlas. In English speaking counters the term Recovered Territories can be unknown, but the territories are accepted as integral part of Poland. Do not put together the attitude of English speaking countries in the same sentence with German attitude. It equalize some Germans arrogance with lack of knowledge in USA, for example. Andrew <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 12:30, November 20, 2006.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
:I am sorry, I don't understand your post, could you work on the grammar and style? I gather English is not your native language?--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 16:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

== DYK nom ==

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== Block ==

Hi Piotrus, could you block ], who has been warned and blocked many times. He recently vandalized ]. ] (]) 19:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks. And by the way, I'd be interested to hear from you ]. ] (]) 22:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

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I've added more inline cits to some areas that were lackning them. I hope that can get your support. ] 07:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== ksiaceta wirtemberscy ==

The German site Oels mentions that the last Podiebrad Carl Frederick died and Sylvius Nimrod , Düke of Württemberg-Weiltingen († 1664) inherited Oels. But only as a mediated principality, which means it hasnt full souvereignty anymore.
I hope that helps a bit.--] 13:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

:see:] --] 17:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== Your queries ==

Hi, and thanks for the notice. I'll be glad to help, although I only have one source available for that period - ]'s ''History'' (I may have some more in the historical magazines collection, but it is hard looking through them for particular topics, and it may take a long time to get to do so). I have done some quick research into the matter of Sasowy Rog, but could not come up with a proper name - all I can remember is that I have heard the name before, in the sentence "the place that the Poles call Sasowy Rog". I wish I'd remember what Romanians are supposed to call it :). From what I have seen so far, the book does not deal with that battle at its proper place in time - it may be mentioned some place else in the narrative, but I'll get back to you on that.

The article on Koniecpolski currently has some style problems that I would like to solve in my edits (such as a link to ] which leads nowhere, the spelling of Bukovina as Bukowina, etc.). I'll give editing a go as I did in the past for the Magnate Wars, and will add my sources for his activities southwards as I look through the aforementioned book (as Romanian-centered as it is,it may yield some valuable information).

I hope my copyedit for ] was okay. Cheers. ] 20:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks. That was a very frustrated permabanned user (]), who has attempted to sign my name to a string of personal attacks on wiki projects I do not contribute to.
:I won't feed the troll on the issues of Bucharest stupidity and the languages I speak (suffices to say I have translated articles from Spanish, French, Catalan, Portuguese and Italian on en:wiki - and have preferred to speak French to French users). However, something else he spewed allows me to mention something I wanted to tell you a long time ago: I have visited several countries (8 in all) - of all, Poland was the most beautiful and interesting. In fact, I would say it is an astonishing country.
:Oh,before I forget: I don't think the ] article is going to make it as a good article as long as it has googlebook links in it. Something more systhematic ought to be attempted in referencing those. ] 21:33, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::Last time when you said, you visited zero countries...You had made a remarkable progress..And you haven't visited much if you say Poland was "the most", I've been to Poland, and they are like us, I would say even worst (sorry Piotrus, I like you a lot but I have to say the truth), you know Piotrus, unemployment, social system, health..etc, Poland it's like Spain in the Slavic countries. Romania helped a lot Poland, don't forget about WWI and polish gold, exile polish gvt etc. So Dan, you speak just spanish and few words of french, italian don't count because it's too similar. Tell me Dan, have you solved your narcisism problems? There are people smarter than you are, who got even PhD :)))) something you'll only dream to..spend your time here and you'll loose everything, pls don't bother to answer me, I will not read it. Fair well, if you don't want me to be mad on you, you should be more active on defending romanian articles, including the issues related to Moldova. But I know, your lack of experience and your naricisit pride won't let you...I see all, after all I'm Bonaparte, der Kaiser, move over son ;-) ]

::I'll see about the links issue some time soon (though I too would rather have someone else do it :)). It is a good article indeed (I had been sniffing around it before I began contributing, but I felt I should detail it as I was simultaneously working on the articles for ] and ], where the story would just line up...). ] 10:12, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

== Sulmierzyce ==
Nie ma sprawy. ;) - ] 21:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== Re: nowe artykuły ==

: Będę wdzięczny jeśli mógłbyś dodwać swoje nowe artykuły do ]. Pozdr,--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 21:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Nie ma sprawy. Na razie dziękuję, że już dodałeś tam moje nowe strony.
Pozdrawiam ] 23:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

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==Merge==

How do we merge two articles created without the knowledge of the other because of a one letter, not at the Western keyboard?

Please compare:
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] 00:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

'''Na marginesie'''

Panie Piotrze, w żadnym atlasie na kontynencie północno-amerykańskim nie pisze się naszego miasta "Cracow", ani "Kraków". Pisownia tego typu należy do błędów robionych przez rodaków, z czym zetknąłem się będąc w Krakowie z wizytą. Jedyną praktykowaną w atlasach pisownią jest Krakow. Mam zamiar zrobić „merge” obu stron, czyli tej, stworzonej przez Pana oraz mojej, pod końcowym tytułem „The Academy of Fine Arts in Krakow”.
] 02:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

'''Merge (2)'''

: Check ] for merging. It would be useful to see what's the official name (as used by the school in question itself). As for Kraków, well... that's a long story; IIRC the official name of the city in English is now 'Krakow' but since it's so close to 'Kraków' the latter one is used on Wiki. Since it doesn't seem to be too controversial, I'd suggest we should not bother changing it - but if you disagree, I'd suggest seeking input from editors at ].--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 06:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


I've been living in North-America for so long I forgot there was a controversy surrounding the English spelling of the name Krakow... or Kraków... or Cracow. The spelling I'm accustomed to has been around for at least 50 years. That's why, if I had a chance of finding out about your page created under a Polish name I wouldn't have bothered wasting time creating a new one just like that with its English spelling. However, I think we can use your original idea, but also create a bunch of redirection pages including all possible alternate spellings for those who care to search for it in Misplaced Pages like I did (including Jan Matejko - though not Matejko's - Academy of Fine Arts). What do you think? ] 07:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

The proper spelling, "Kraków", is listed in The Canadian Oxford School Atlas Fifth Edidtion 1985, so there's a good point of reference. I wonder, would you agree to a new name of ]? If not, we could "redirect" all other names to ].

See also ]. Greetings ] 16:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

:Ok, lepiej pozno niz wcale spojrzalem na : nazywaja siebie ] - i tam powinnismmy przeniesc zmergowany artykul, tworzac redirecty z wszystkiego innego co nam przyjdzie do glowy.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 17:24, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Panie Piotrze, moim zdaniem nie powinniśmy lansować pisowni, która nie jest praktykowana w języku angielskim na kontynencie amerykańskim. Pisałem wcześniej na temat tego, jak niektórzy krakowianie lansują nazwę miasta jako "Cracow", chociaż jest to pisownia wychodząca z użycia. Czy w Wikipedii nie powinniśmy być w gramatycznej czołówce? Pozdrawiam i czekam na reakcję.
] 17:37, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:Zwykle jestem przeciwny 'Cracow', ale jeśli to jest oficjalna nazwa stosowana przez instytucje w danym języku, to jest to nazwa którą powinnyśmy stosować w tym języku. Jeśli chcemy więcej opinii, ] byłoby dobrym miejscem to dyskusji.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 17:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Studenci zagraniczni referowani są po angielsku do ] - Krakow, Poland . Nie wiem co mam o tym wszystkim sądzić? Urodziłem się w Krakowie i nie lubię przeinaczanych nazw mojego rodzinnego miasta... Proszę samemu zadecydować.
] 17:59, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

:Jak napisalem, mysle, ze dobrze byloby zasiegnac opinii innych na WP:PWNB.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 18:24, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Będę wdzięczny, jeżeli sam Pan wystąpi z tą kwestią na ]. Ja dostosuję się do końcowej decyzji innych, bo przedstawiłem już w szczegółach mój punkt widzenia. Poza tym, nie zauważyłem śladów podobnej dyskusji na forum i nie wiem, czy mogę się spodziewać racjonalnej sugestii w tej sprawie. Pozdrawiam ] 21:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== Troll ==

Zobacz dokonania ] i twórczy wkład 75.4.119.198 - na pl i na en. ] 01:55, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== Łapanka ==

Witam!

Piszę artykuł o ] dla norweskiej Wikipedii. Czy istnieje możliwość wykorzystania zdjęcia "]" w tym celu? Zdjęcie nie znajduje się w Wikimedia Commons - czy wynika to z jego licencji?

Pozdrawiam, ] 13:46, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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