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==Usability and discoverability==
== Where is Niki Lauda? ==
I would expect the main page of the encyclopedia to prominently feature both a table of contents and a search feature. This page has a lot of trivia, which is a nice secondary function, but no longer seems to serve its primary functions very well. It does have a search feature, but it's a small icon up at the top in a bar of icons, rather than being front and center and already open with a box to type in words (in the style of a search engine, like ).
To my view he was notable enough that his death should be listed in the Main Page, 'Recent Deaths' or even get a post in the 'In the news' section. Why not?

] (]) 23:31, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
: See ]. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family:'Trajan Pro','Perpetua Titling MT',Perpetua,serif">''']'''</span>&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> '']''&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> 23:56, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

::As with the death mentioned a few sections above 'and many others which appear in the archives for this page' - there is only a certain amount of space on the Main Page, so value judgements (as to both the notability of the person and also the quality of the person's WP article) have to be made.
::Even if the Main Page were the size of 'the largest TV to date' and all biographies were well written there would still be comments as to why wasn't a particular death/anniversary/ITN entry included. (When will the resignation be included on ITN?) ] (]) 10:32, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
:::See ].-- ] (]) 14:31, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

:::I seriously think the WP purists must come to their senses here! If a perceived lack of quality of an article prevents its inclusion, the Main Page will run the risk of being skewed. After all, isn't the WP Main Page for the public, not for the cognoscenti to get their quality requirements enforced? Notability must be the firat and only criterion! (Lauda is unimportant to me, it's the principle.) ] (]) 09:19, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
::::No, article quality is the primary consideration. The main page shows the best of Wiki, not the most notable. Often the two are one and the same but not always. If there's a difference between the two - you could always fix it yourself. ] (]) 10:00, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
::::Serving the public is exactly why there are quality standards. It does not help the reader if we direct them to an article about something or someone significant but the article is unreferenced, woefully incomplete, or erroneous. --] (]) 14:20, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

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The five copies of the Main Page above seem to use old syntax and should be synced with the current source of the Main Page. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family:'Trajan Pro','Perpetua Titling MT',Perpetua,serif">''']'''</span>&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> '']''&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> 02:02, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
:{{done}} — ] <sup>]</sup> 16:27, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

== Minor correction ==


It's a bit weird we visibly link to ], but the only link to ] (which is important enough it's linked to from every page on the site) is hidden behind the pancake menu icon in the upper left. We do have templates like ] that could be used directly on this page as a better gateway to actual articles, for those that are curious but don't have any particular query in mind or are looking for inspiration. ] (]) 20:26, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Prem Tinsulanonda, Regent of Thailand died on May 26. Can't you add him on the recently dead list? ] (]) 03:34, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
:See ]. ] (]) 03:43, 28 May 2019 (UTC)


:Agree about the trivia, but remember opinions here come from the trivia writers. Last time I looked at portal usage statistics, it looks like a few people click to see what they are, and most of them don't click anything further. ] (]) 03:55, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
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:This appears to be an objection to the ], not the contents of ] itself. The default skins on desktop and mobile both have a large search box or icon right at the top of every page. The desktop skin also has a link to ] in the menu shown on every single page. If you don't like the way that requires opening the menu before that link is visible, I suggest you bring it up on an appropriate talk page for the skin (perhaps ]) or at the ]. ] ] 14:09, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Armenian to English ] (]) 05:50, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
::Yes, I'm objecting to the fact that the primary functions of the main page are hidden in a menu and in an icon rather than being directly on - if not the most prominent things on - the page.
: See ], although I don't think there are currently any Armenian-to-English translators available. Please use the ] for questions unrelated to the Main Page. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family:'Trajan Pro','Perpetua Titling MT',Perpetua,serif">''']'''</span>&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> '']''&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> 06:11, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
::Wouldn't changing the skin change ''all'' pages? That seems like the wrong answer, since it wouldn't make sense to put the Contents listing on every page, nor would it make sense to have an open search bar on every page. Unlike the main page, I would expect the primary means of navigation to be clicking on links to related articles, as opposed to browsing through topics. (Search is sort of intermediate on those pages, so an icon seems like a good compromise.) -- ] (]) 21:52, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
::I see no reason why we can't have in the top box "Welcome to Misplaced Pages" a visually predominant search bar. Doesn't touch the skin. ] (]) 22:31, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

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I would expect the main page of the encyclopedia to prominently feature both a table of contents and a search feature. This page has a lot of trivia, which is a nice secondary function, but no longer seems to serve its primary functions very well. It does have a search feature, but it's a small icon up at the top in a bar of icons, rather than being front and center and already open with a box to type in words (in the style of a search engine, like ).

It's a bit weird we visibly link to Misplaced Pages:Contents/Portals, but the only link to Misplaced Pages:Contents (which is important enough it's linked to from every page on the site) is hidden behind the pancake menu icon in the upper left. We do have templates like Misplaced Pages:Contents/TOC navbar that could be used directly on this page as a better gateway to actual articles, for those that are curious but don't have any particular query in mind or are looking for inspiration. Beland (talk) 20:26, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Agree about the trivia, but remember opinions here come from the trivia writers. Last time I looked at portal usage statistics, it looks like a few people click to see what they are, and most of them don't click anything further. Art LaPella (talk) 03:55, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
This appears to be an objection to the WP:SKIN, not the contents of Main Page itself. The default skins on desktop and mobile both have a large search box or icon right at the top of every page. The desktop skin also has a link to Misplaced Pages:Contents in the menu shown on every single page. If you don't like the way that requires opening the menu before that link is visible, I suggest you bring it up on an appropriate talk page for the skin (perhaps Misplaced Pages talk:Vector 2022) or at the village pump. Modest Genius 14:09, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes, I'm objecting to the fact that the primary functions of the main page are hidden in a menu and in an icon rather than being directly on - if not the most prominent things on - the page.
Wouldn't changing the skin change all pages? That seems like the wrong answer, since it wouldn't make sense to put the Contents listing on every page, nor would it make sense to have an open search bar on every page. Unlike the main page, I would expect the primary means of navigation to be clicking on links to related articles, as opposed to browsing through topics. (Search is sort of intermediate on those pages, so an icon seems like a good compromise.) -- Beland (talk) 21:52, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
I see no reason why we can't have in the top box "Welcome to Misplaced Pages" a visually predominant search bar. Doesn't touch the skin. Masem (t) 22:31, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
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