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This page got deleted a decade ago, and seems to have been ressurected a few years ago under everyone's noses. I wouldn't have even noticed if he wasn't tagging this article by putting captions under notable people's profile pics like 'soandso by David Shankbone', with his name linking to this page. Nothing has been added since the ancient deletion, and this page reads like a resume, not an informative article. I hope wikipedia can bill him for the money he made using them as a sponsor. A user by the name of 93 seems to have taken special interest in the ressurection of this deleted page against arbcom's will. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.221.146.93 (talk) 07:11, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because it's unclear how WP:G4 actually applies; IOW, whether this is substantially the same article as it was when it was deleted in 2009 or a new one. --Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:37, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

The article was deleted through AfD and later subject to two deletion reviews, and it was decided not to be restored. The article is largely the same as it was in 2009, when it was deleted. See It is not that different, just three new sources. --Kuatrero (talk) 21:47, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Those three new sources are a fine reason to restore. The nomination was specifically due to the fact that there weren't enough reliable sources: "This article uses spurious sourcing (namely the subject's blog, various other blogs, and Wikinews) to create a piece that appears to be a valid article, yet really isn't. It should be noted that the subject of the article has an account on Misplaced Pages (User:David Shankbone). While there are news references to the subject, there isn't sufficient coverage to merit inclusion. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:39, 18 October 2009 (UTC)" Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/David Shankbone --GRuban (talk) 15:17, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

I've added a cite of the Business Insider article about him that included examples of his work. That "Articles for deletion" discussion took place 11 years ago. David Shankbone is notable. Carlstak (talk) 16:43, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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@FMSky: You tagged this page as having characteristics of an advertisement. Can you describe what you are seeing? Bluerasberry (talk) 15:11, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

"He is described by PBS as "arguably the most influential new media photojournalist in the world" for his numerous copyleft photographs, uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and seen in Misplaced Pages, documenting celebrities, political officials, and events, notably the Occupy Wall Street protests. As a Wikinews citizen journalist, he was the first to interview a sitting head of state, Israeli President Shimon Peres. His photography has been featured in magazines and news websites such as The New York Times, the Miami Herald, and Business Insider, and featured in an exhibition at the Museum of the City of New York. " --this is the whole lead--FMSky (talk) 15:16, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

It's also a defense against deletion, which this page has been nominated for before, and which you'll notice this talk page is dedicated to. It's Catch 22 - if we point out what makes him notable, it's an advertisement. If we don't, it's nominated for deletion for lack of notability. --GRuban (talk) 16:56, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

@FMSky: I fail to recognize the problem. Can say what is the problem? Or alternatively, here is the entire lead for another photographer. Can you say if this one is the same or different and why?

• Annie Leibovitz

Anna-Lou Leibovitz is an American portrait photographer best known for her engaging portraits, particularly of celebrities, which often feature subjects in intimate settings and poses. Leibovitz's Polaroid photo of John Lennon and Yoko Ono, taken five hours before Lennon's murder, is considered one of Rolling Stone magazine's most famous cover photographs. The Library of Congress declared her a Living Legend, and she is the first woman to have a feature exhibition at Washington's National Portrait Gallery.

Bluerasberry (talk) 17:21, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

@FMSky: Can you articulate what is wrong the paragraph you quoted? Is it inaccurate? Is it not supported by the citations? Does it employ slanted language? Tell us your problems with it. Nightscream (talk) 04:26, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

In need of update

The content here peters out in 2009. - Jmabel | Talk 21:14, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Looking at the page, I am not sure it is really notable actually at this point. Hardly anything new in 15 years. Might be worth an AfD @Jmabel? Iljhgtn (talk) 07:53, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

"Notability is not temporary; once a topic has been the subject of "significant coverage" in accordance with the general notability guideline, it does not need to have ongoing coverage." --GRuban (talk) 20:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

He is retired. I have a pending request from him to convert his uploads at commons:User:David_Shankbone from the original copyright license, to the more permissive CC0 license. That is not exactly the kind of update requested but if there is further news about them, then it would be in any retrospective examination of their media collection.

Can anyone direct me to where I should go on Commons to request mass changes of licenses to his several thousand image uploads? I can manage the email to VRT for permission. Bluerasberry (talk) 16:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

@Bluerasberry: If VRT gets the permission from him, and it applies to all of his uploads, that is trivial to change with VFC (at least for the Wikitext part, and I assume a bot will follow up and fix the SDC). Note that when we do this, we add the CC-0 license; we don't remove a legitimate old license just because a more generous one is now available. - Jmabel | Talk 20:12, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

@Iljhgtn: I would say that the lede amply justifies an article, but one would think that the article should say how long he continued doing this, when (and possibly why) he stopped, and possibly what he has been doing since. - Jmabel | Talk 20:14, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Ok. Care to take the lead on that reworking of the article? Or should I Iljhgtn (talk) 20:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Also looks to be written in a very WP:PROMO-like manner and with a lot of WP:PUFFERY which should be entirely removed or greatly toned down at a minimum. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:17, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

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