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Just to be clear, accusing someone of having a political POV or bias, is a personal attack? I ask so that I understand the rules. ] (]) 03:39, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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:The way you're going about it, yes. Stop making judgments about other editors based on your feelings about the topic. If you can't edit neutrally and without attacking other editors, your editing privileges will be restricted or removed. Walk away from the keyboard for a while. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:41, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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== Discussion at Talk:Cardi B#Hennessy Doesn't Need a Page... Not Famous Enough ==
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But as for the case of a famous rapper, namely that of Cardi B has younger sister named Hennessy Carolina. (no really that's her given moniker, as it comes from the fact of her dad showing up boozed during her birth)
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Since subject isn't a well known social media personality to the likes of the Paul Brothers, a page removal should be accepted. Yes page blanking is a giant no no but that HAS to happen.
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==Sock confession==
:The deletion discussion came to no consensus. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:25, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Can you please look at this ? <span style="font-family:'Forte';">] (])</span> 12:55, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
:They are back <span style="font-family:'Forte';">] (])</span> 11:18, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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Given their (if sporadic) of regardless of the citations attached, I might have indeffed this editor per ]. ] <sup>]] ]]</sup> 18:58, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
:The thought crossed my mind, but then I really needed to wind up lunch and get back to work. We'll see what use, if any, they make of my tolerance. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 23:42, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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== Three-Revert Rule Warning ==
Hi sir,
I am curious where this three-revert rule applies to me. Please provide evidence. I have actually not reverted a single page. I am not even on one, yet you flagged my account as three. Why is this?] (]) 01:57, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
:You're right that you've donne it once in a given article (I thought you'd done it twice in the Biden article, I was mistaken). However, you're bouncing from place to place adding lengthy digressions about a lawsuit that has a long way to go before it reaches a threshold of due emphasis. Warnings do not mean that you've breached a threshold, they are just reminders not to. I recommend that you wait until any court action becomes a significant feature of someone's life. Mere existence is not notable. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
== Would you mind cease reverting the positive changes I make to the page ==
The statement I made was a highly neutral statement, that is pure fact, that is so embedded in Christianity- can it be more "neutral"?
Or how would you define "neutral"
It is not personal commentary, it is neutral explanation that is designed to make the text less ambiguous than it already is - as it seems biased towards the religion.
The sentence "19th century priests - including Donders - showed no respect towards existing beliefs (including Winti) is by any standard not neutral, since:
1. Is authos's presonal opionion not covered in bibliography
2. Contains only half of the truth: most (if not all) missionaries does not show respect towards existing beliefs, becuase '''it does not go on par with Christianity''' ] (]) 13:21, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
:Misplaced Pages is not a messageboard for your personal views or analysis. I have no particular issue with the removal of that statement, but amplifying or explaining it strays into personal analysis. ff you persist in editorializing you will lose editing privileges. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 13:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
== 71.65.65.144 ==
Less than 2 weeks after the last 6-month block expires, somehow . <b>] ]</b> 00:50, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:Well, more like 18 months, if I'm reading the block log right, but we can find comfort that they've at least moved on from Matthew Garrett. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:48, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
== Hi, I replied on my talk page and on the administrators' noticeboard ==
By mistake, I pinged a different editor. I edit it back, to your username, but I don't know for sure if it notified you or not. ] (]) 04:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
:I replied at AN. I think you probably need to take a step back. I'll reply at greater length on your talkpage. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 04:12, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
== Recent block ==
You recently blocked a disruptive IP. I suspect this account is the same person. They left a comment defending the IP's edit and then made the same disruptive edit at ]. ] (]) 01:10, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
:Yeah, I'd been waiting to see what else they'd do, there's no doubt that they're a logged-in version of the IP. Indeffed. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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== Removingmycorrection ==
== Rev/delete of defamatory content ==
Hi Acroterion, can you rev/delete the latest BLP violation at ]? Thanks, ] (]) 01:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
I am Walter Johnson’s Daughter. Why would you remove my correction ? ] (]) 00:25, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
:Thatwasn'tacorrection-generally children aren't named in biographies unless they're independently notable, with sources in major independent media to prove it, and we have no way of confirming who anybody is that makes an anonymous edit. Everything in a biography must be sourced to published media'''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 00:28, 8April2019 (UTC)
:Looks like Materialscientist got there first. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:09, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
::Nope, I did.--] (]) 04:20, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Much appreciated. ] (]) 04:24, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
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Your Link to this article had started a translation of the French. ] (]) 15:51, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
== Socking ==
== Xwpis ONOMA ==
Thank you for blocking ]. I think you may want to just go ahead and remove TPA, I missed on another page until I went looking through their previous contributions. This person definitely doesn't need to be allowed back. — <b>]:<sup>]</sup></b> 18:52, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi, Acroterion - I noticed in one of your discussions above there was an issues with an IP messing with filters, and I'm now wondering if 91.248.142.3 and 85.16.226.58 are one in the same with that IP. If so, is that considered sock activity? ] <sub>]</sub> ] 14:33, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
:Those two are clearly the same person, but since IPs can change, sometimes, we shouldn't be quick to say that it's socking just because the IP has changed. I'm not sure which discussion on this page you're referring to - neither of the IPs you've mentioned have triggered filters.
:The various fascism-related pages have seen a steady stream of drive-by edits by folks who've taken Jonah Goldberg seriously, or who take the "socialism" in National Socialism literally, or people who think that a given political stance is defined by its extremes - which would make my socially-active stepmother a follower of Pol Pot by that definition. I've never thought that any particular person was doing that, it's just part of the background chatter. It's all a bit tedious, because most of those edits are motivated by name-calling in both directions, with a lack of understanding that extremists have more in common with each other than with the directions to which they're attributed. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 17:07, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
:There's been a bit of trolling by a couple of socks who've advanced the novel idea of extremist centrism, which at least is a refreshing change - see the grandiosely-named ArcusLordOfGods and Stormcloak EthnoNationalist. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 17:16, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
:::I guess it really doesn't matter. I'm still in the learning process and obviously a slow learner. {{Justcurious}}can CU tell if someone is masking their static IP address by using a VPN app? ] <sub>]</sub> ] 21:45, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
::::I certainly wouldn't say that, but it's admittedly easy to go into full Poirot mode and see sockpuppets everywhere. I've made a few mistakes, but over time I've almost always been right about a suspected sockpuppet, even if I don't know who it is. I'm not a CU, but a VPN app should look like an open proxy, which is often flagged by various WHOIS services, or as an unlikely geolocation. One of our most notorious abusive sockpuppets used to routinely use open proxies in Venezuela. I think he likes Belarus nowadays.
::::If you think there's something fishy about somebody or an IP, feel free to run it past me, I'll tell you if I see any red flags. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 23:34, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
::Mr. butt-in-ski MONGO here...I've grown very tired of all politics especially lately...but were I to return I want everyone to know that I most closely align with the ] based mainly on their primary platform of "free beer and sex for pensioners, and the construction of laughter clinics".--] (]) 17:40, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
:::{{Buttinsky}} <-- here's the template, Mongo. OMG, you're not kidding about the Rock 'n' Roll Loony Party.
:Oh boy, I didn't see that either. I won't remove TPA unless they abuse it, but I will amend my comment, I see no redemption available to them. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 18:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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== Block Followup ==
== Hi, there's another edit war ==
You recently blocked ] for personal attacks, but I'm seeing very similar IPs (like ] and ]) continuing to post on the talk page in question. Maybe not making personal attacks, but it feels like block evasion. Asking here because you did the original block and it's honestly not clear whether this is something that needs to be reported/where that would even happen/whether a block expansion is even warranted. Can't wrap my head around rangeblocks, but when I tried to look at contributions over ] the edit history seemed to line up. ] (]) 01:02, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi. The user Wizeone2 which you have blocked previously, is back with another edit war. Please see ] and ]. Although I have tried to talk and reason with him in his ], he continues to undid my sourced revisions (, ), add unsourced content (, ), and remove issues (, ). His explanations (]) are not justifiable, but he does not seem to want to give up. I ask you for help because you have already intervened previously. ] (]) 11:40, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
:Want to be clear I'm not requesting that you expand the block, just asking what the protocol is here... Misplaced Pages policies can be positively oracular at times. ] (]) 01:08, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
== Edit war on Van Badham and Sally McManus Pages ==
::Rangeblocks take some getting used to, especially with IPv6. I think it bears a closer look, because blocked is blocked. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
There are two users, "ChangeTheRulesComrade" and "Emuwren" who are engaged in an edit war on the entry pages for Australian writer Van Badham (https://en.wikipedia.org/Van_Badham) and Secretary of the Australian Council of Trade Unions, Sally McManus (https://en.wikipedia.org/Sally_McManus). Their edits relate to adding in a false reference that Van Badham co-authored a book with Sally McManus. This can be seen in the change logs. There is currently a Federal election in Australia, and obviously political activists are attempting to cause trouble by doing this edit. I'm happy to keep an eye on the pages, but would it be possible to have the pages locked? (I have left a copy of this on the page of fellow editor Primefac (https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Primefac#Edit_war_on_Van_Badham_and_Sally_McManus_Pages) Thanks. ] (]) 13:00, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
:The disruption at Badham;'s article was confronted and stopped a few days ago. I've left a strong warning on Emuwren's talkpage - their conduct is not acceptable. I haven't protected the article at this point - Emuwren is autoconfirmed, so semi-protection would not work, and I'd rather deal with the disruption at its source. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 14:05, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
:::On inspection of their edits, the first edit from that range was probably the most telling. I guess they've learned from the first block to tone down the personal attacks, but not quite enough. Iv'e blocked the new range. I suspect they'll find another /64 range, though. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:32, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
== WTC wide flange columns ==
::::Thanks for the attention. A new block was more than I was expecting. If he does find a new /64 I'm not sure we can continue this game of Whac-A-Mole. ] (]) 02:50, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::They should be tolerably obvious, for reasons I won't go into in public. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:48, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
== Comicsgate ==
Hi, can you tell me how the information that the impact zone core columns were wide-flange columns (supported by NIST report with citation)violates the rules of Misplaced Pages? Also, my picture was well referenced (citations to its size, density of thermite and its fire resistance). Also, it was clearly stated that it is a conspiracy claim and a forum can be a source of conspiracy claim - since it is not mentioned as a fact but as an example of conspiracy claim. Also, I do not support conspiracy theories (as evidenced by the text) but I though that the section deserved some more detailed info on that subject since it is rather small.] (]) 17:26, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
:Your edits have collectively amounted to original research, mainly sourced to conspiracy theory fora. That's not acceptable. Find better sources, and avoid speculation about theoretical locations for explosives. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 17:41, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Hi Acroterion. I know you keep an eye on ], which is frequently targeted by irate editors. If you have some time, it would be appreciated if you could keep an admin eye on ] for a while, too; I anticipate some talkpage sealioning. ] (]) 22:49, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
:That is clearly not true. My sources were mainly links to NIST (type of beam, cover, it's lack of e.g. HVAC duckts) and the fire resistance/weight of the specific beam. The only conspiracy link was to the idea that a charge (not explosive) could have been hidden in that cavity. Also, it was quite clear that it is a conspiracy speculation - as is the rest of the Truther nonsense. To be clear - as far as my motivation goes, I find the claims/works of National Geographic, et. al. insulting to the energetic materials research community. Thermite is clearly capable of attacking and destroying large columns - such as those used in WTC. I'd be happy if the article reflected that in some way.] (]) 17:59, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
::Your edits amounted to original research. Conspiracy theory fora are not reliable sources under almost any circumstance - secondary sources that examine conspiracy theories in reliable independent media with a reputation for editorialoversight and fact-checking are needed. I don't know what the issue is with National Geographic - I didn't see anything about any reference to NG, and I'm completely indifferent to whether it's insulting to the "energetic materials research community." Misplaced Pages isn't a forum for presentation of research. Use the talkpage to present your proposed edits, their sources, and how their combination doesn't run afoul of ]. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 18:07, 14April2019 (UTC)
:Thanks for letting me know, watchlisted. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 00:17, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
== Revert question at September 11 attacks ==
Why did you this IP editor? I don't see it mentioned in the summary. --] (]) 00:25, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
:Did you read the edit? It wasn't a question, it was a garbled test edit at best, and was not an edit request or a suggestion for article improvement. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 00:41, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
::Yes. I just thought maybe the new IP doesn't know the rules yet. I a welcome banner that has the rules and hopefully they will learn the ropes here. :) --] (]) 03:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
:::By all means. I interpreted it as a child who had a slightly garbled idea of what had happened who was trying out editing. We see that fairly often, though less than we used to, unfortunately. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Would it be possible to help? A convoy supporter is removing well-sourced content. It appears that the edits are politically motivated - they wish to remove any content that is critical of the convoy occupation (e.g. anything referring to the class action lawsuit). They are also adding inaccurate content. Thanks! ] (]) 09:46, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
:Whatever the issue is, you have both wildly exceeded 3RR. I’ll look it over and figure out what to do, but reverting like that is never a good idea - it should be reported at AIV or AN3 before it ever goes that far. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:08, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your help!
::I'm not going to have the time to sort this out before I go to work, I'm going to leave a message at ] for other admins to look at. You should expect to be scolded for simply reverting instead of soliciting admin help from the beginning. I realize you didn't necessarily know that, but it leaves you open to sanctions too. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 13:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
:Someone has protected the article. I contacted info-en@wikipedia.org to ask for help, but received a reply 9 hours later. Sorry, I didn't know who to contact - I haven't encountered these issues before. ] (]) 17:08, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
::I don't think anybody expects you to know, from limited experience. In general, editors are limited to three reverts, at most, for anything short of really obvious vandalism or defamation, which this was not. In general, if you encounter this kind of thing again, I would advise reporting it at ] for simple vandalism, or ] for more complicated issues, and resigning yourself to the understanding that the article may have the wrong version until it can be dealt with. For flat-out edit-warring, like you saw, ], but it's best to go there without having done it yourself,and formatting it can be tricky. ] is a good resource. It can be hard to find help in the North American nighttime hours. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 17:29, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks, I appreciate the detailed info. I will definitely seek help if I spot any similar issues in the future. In this situation, it looks like a former protester/occupier is really keen to remove or counter any negative coverage. In response, we can talk about the use of reliable sources, and the importance of maintaining a balanced, neutral point of view.
:::On the contact page: it could be helpful to add some more details there.
:::"3. For vandalism, it is best just to fix it directly yourself; however, if you cannot fix it, you can email info-en-v@wikimedia.org and include the address or title of the article and a description of the vandalism."
:::] ] (]) 18:24, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
::::I've never seen a mechanism via email, at least Iv'e never participated in such a mailing list. I'll figure out where such emails actually go, I'm not optimistic that it's very closely monitored I'd avoid email response and just contact somebody on-wiki. Nighttime requests would be very unlikely to get attention via email in any case. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 00:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
== Lower protection of United Airlines Flight 93 to semi ==
Hello. Extended confirmed did make sense on the 20th anniversary, but it’s been 2 and a half years and the page is still extended. It could potentially be lowered to even pending changes or no protection, but extended confirmed is overkill as of now. ] (]) 16:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
:I've removed protection entirely, as the specific disruption has been dealt with. There are a couple of LTAs that might cause trouble, but they can be dealt with by semi-protection if needed. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 17:48, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
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== Gary Concepcion (politician) ==
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Looks like the guy who made ] also has ]. might want to delete and salt that also. ] (]) 02:15, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
:I missed that there were two drafts of the same thing. One of them is going - the other should go when the AfD is closed, unless there's sentiment to put it back in draft space, which looks unlikely. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:24, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
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This isn't a disruptive edition,the people who they're recognized as Japs are a group of fascist group believe in fascism genetically,and this fascist group've killed about 38k Chinese people especially POWs and civilians in Nanjing December 13 1937,so the changing in ] isn't a disruptive editing. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:36, 20 April 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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Hello Acroterion, I see that you've protected the violence against men article. I personally disagree with your move and request the move to be reversed, however I am happy to hear your thought process as I'm not up to code with page protection. You cite an IP persistently removing material without explanation. There was an explanation for the move on the talk page. This user has also only removed this content once before, which was a day ago so is that considered "persistent"? Further, this user has added well-sourced content, so I've assumed that the editor is acting in good faith. From what I see, it didn't need to be protected. —<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">]</span> ] 12:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
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:I take a less benign view. The IP appears to be trying to turn around the article's discussion on domestic partner violence, flipping the statements on women vs. men (i.e., persistently removing content not to their POV). They added a source that at least on its face appears to support their apparent POV, and then removed the reference that supported the original statement, with a talkpage comment that effectively stated that they just didn't like the reference. This particular statement has seen disruption in the past. The IP can clearly find the talkpage, and is welcome to discuss why they think such a significant reversal should be made, with a consensus of sources. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 13:02, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello, but he is a famous punjabi singer so how come thats inappropriate? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:34, 24 April 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:However, since I have commitments for the rest of the day and won't be available to respond, I've removed the semi-protection, since the IP appears to be able to present talkpage discussion. Please keep an eye on things, the article has been a battleground in the past for this very statement. Any admin is welcome to reinstate or modify if needed. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 13:43, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, will do. —<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">]</span> ] 22:39, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
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== Diatribe ==
is such an interesting word. ] (]) 03:24, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Someone posted spammy content + a problematic URL. It's all been removed from the article itself but probably shouldn't be left in the edit-history of Hyde Park on Hudson . Thanks, ] (]) 06:40, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
:"1. An abusive, bitter verbal or written attack, criticism or denunciation. 2. A prolonged discourse; a long-winded speech." '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:28, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
::Indeed. ] (]) 03:43, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
== Givemethearbitrationcase page ==
== Why shouldn’t I edit the talk page for Far Right? ==
I was trying to polish and refine the comments on the talk page for the Far Right, but you undid my revision. Why? ] (]) 16:24, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Hey mate, you gave me the wrong notice page. The notice page you gave me is stuck to a case that was more than a decade ago. Seriously?? It hasn't been active for over a decade.
:Don't alter other peoples' comments. Period. And why are you using two accounts? '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 16:28, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
:Julkhamil, I removed your recent post, which was not on-topic for the article talk page. I second Acroterion's advice that you not edit other people's comments. You cited ], but none of your changes were of the types suggested at that how-to page. ] (] / ]) 04:55, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
::I am close to blocking both accounts for general lack of clue and abuse of multiple accounts. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 04:56, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
You gave me this link. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Falun_Gong
== Need help, don't know what to do. ==
Please send me the correct link or if it is the current one, then give me details of when to expect to see the page be updated. Because I want to be fully involved in my case that you claim to be aware of.
Hello @]! There is an ongoing discussion in the ] talk page. This discussion began after a disagreement on when the Christianization of Amhara began, with me believing it started in the 4th century during the reign of Emperor Ezana and the other user "Socialwave597" believing it happened "in the late Aksumite period, as hinted in the missionary activities of King Degna Djan." Throughout the discussion I gave a lot of reliable sources, however to no avail. He (I don't kow if it is on purpose or not) misinterprets them and/or gives some excuse not to accept them as valid. He also provided some sources, however when you look at them they don't state what he said, on the contrary, some even prove my point. I saw that It was a waste of time and asked ]. Thankfully it was answered and the Administrator gave his opinion, which seemed to me that he wasn't certain or just tried to be as neutral as possible. Me and Socialwave597 made our proposals and have yet to been answered, it's been more than 2 weeks. I have no idea whether Admins respond back when giving third opinions but we really need a concrete answer so we can reach a consensus as fast as possible. Would you be able, if possible of course, to check the situation and possibly resolve this? Please let me know if I need to contact someone else or do something as I really have no clue of what to do, I'm kind of new to Misplaced Pages and I am just trying to solve ] Thanks! ] (]) 22:55, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
IT is Incorrect. Case Opened on 05:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:On superficial reading, it looks like Ilywrch (who is not an administrator) did a very thorough review, more than I could do. But , at least while acting as an administrator, I can't arbitrate content, and I'm completely unfamiliar with the topic, so I would need to do a lot of homework to be of much use in any case. I would suggest ] for a moderated discussion if you think the issues are intractable. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
::All right. I believed Llywrch was an administrator as it was stated in his profile page but in any case I'll see what I can do, thanks for the response. ] (]) 18:04, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
:::You're right, they are, but they aren't commenting from an administrator's point of view. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 00:27, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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:I agree. The Internet has plenty of other places to post glowing odes. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 23:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
::"Uniquely" triggered one of my alarms. OP at ANI ({{u|Binksternet}}) thanked my edit, so that's three in agreement. ] (]) 12:04, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
== 31 hour block for the Talk:Leo Frank editor? ==
Also you exhibited you only got Double standards of deleting one pov ~ whilst allowing another person's actual soapboxing to be added freely in which I responded to directly after it was added.
I think it's warranted. Good close to that discussion. I got caught up in an edit conflict with you, wrote: Quick response before I block you for personal attacks. Source1mag is a conspiracy theory site. Eg "Shocking Mini Hidden Camera Shows – Corporate, Big Pharma Plot to Fire Tucker Carlson" and "Bizarre Oddities: Oh My, Obama’s Brother Says Barack Sold His Soul to Satan To Join the Illuminati" The American Chronicle is no better. ] ] 12:16, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
:No objection, they're headed for an indef one way or another for POV pushing. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:17, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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You showed clear bias and hypocricy. What was Marvin 2009 comments if not political irrelevant soapboxing added to the same
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== Semiprotection – thanks! ==
Hi Acroterion, it's been a while and I hope you are doing well. I decided a few days ago that I would see if I could make a low-key return to Misplaced Pages editing without too much anxiety, and the first thing I found was that Nsmutte had returned while I was gone... I came here to ask if you could help me with a renewed semi-protection of my user talk page, but I just noticed that you already did while I was typing the previous, so I'll change to a thank you! --'']'' <small>] ]</small> 13:41, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
:I considered making it indefinite protection, in fact, I think I will, if you don't mind. I'm happy to help. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 13:44, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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:And I have replied. Good luck with that. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
== deletion of my wiki page ==
You ignored his soapbox about off topic going on politics but not when i replied directly to it using relevant arguments that Li talked about aliens which satisfies the simple definition of cult and ironically for the other person to not debate off topic politics, but instead focus only whether something are facts or not.
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Also I want to know how to take my topic to arbitration. Because you abused your editor powers out of spite. Turning a blind eye to one soapbox added while deleting my reply. Clear double standards?
Hi there,
I recently noticed that my Misplaced Pages user page, which was dedicated to well-known saints with followers worldwide, has been deleted. I'm writing to inquire about the reason behind this deletion. I've observed similar pages for saints from various countries, including the USA, China, Japan, and India. like similar content what my page was so if similar content with other page can work what is issue for my page..?
Given this precedent, I'm curious as to what specific issue led to the removal of my page.
Could you please provide me with more information regarding the deletion and any guidelines or policies I may have inadvertently violated? I'm eager to ensure that any necessary adjustments are made to comply with Misplaced Pages's standards.
Thank you for your assistance.
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Warm regards,
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== your deletion of my posts ==
Yatharthgeeta24 ] (]) 04:23, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
I am making suggestions on the talk pages
:As noted in my notice to you, userpages are not workspaces for drafts, or alternate hosts for articles. Additionally, the content included repeated links to what I take to be your personal website, yatharthgeeta.com. Misplaced Pages does not permit that kind of spamming. Please do not use Misplaced Pages as a free webhost. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 15:59, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
In the case of BDS rightly point out that it is targeting Jews and is anti-Semetic and that should be equal weight to the apartheid lie. On Antifa, they can claim to be anti facists, but many regard them as facist removing anti facists makes it NPOV. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small>
::Ok… thanks for your kind reply
:You're posting complaints about things you don't like under a thin veneer of "suggestions." Talkpages are for specific discussions of sourced improvements, not for general griping. To quote from a recent noticeboard discussion "This is an admin conducting straightforward policy enforcement, specifically WP:TALKNO, WP:FORUM, ... Expressing personal views on talk pages is prohibited. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 14:18, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
:: You mean if I do not use links of websites so I can Create a page for famous india saint..??
::I was new on Misplaced Pages just started contributing here I will keep in these points in mind for my future page if any. ] (]) 18:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
:::You could start at ], and build an article there, using independent sources (not your website), and avoiding anything directly copy/pasted from anywhere, printed or on the Internet. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 18:45, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
== 173.206.254.88 ==
== Why the protection at ]? ==
Today'seditandrevertwereunrelated to the thrice reverted edit of several days ago. I don't see anything resembling persistent disruption going on there. ] (]) 03:25, 2May2019 (UTC)
Some people just need to stick to decaf. -] (]) 20:20, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
:Fora relatively sleepy article it's been getting a goodbit of partisan editing over the past month, I felt that semi-protection for a few days wouldsettlethingsdown. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 11:48, 2May2019 (UTC)
:It was a little on the shrill and manic side. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 20:22, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
== Reverts on flight 93 passengers ==
== ArbCom 2019 special circular ==
There is no actual way of knowing that the claims of the four men being the ‘ones who organised a revolt’ are true. The only evidence is from reports of what happened which have changed over time, and their accuracy has been questions. There is no way of knowing that the four men actually were the only four who decided initially. That is just what is reported through popular media and what was reported as being said in unrecorded telephone conversations. Tge use of names when referring to the 9/11 commission report is also wrong as the simply says ‘native English’ or ‘native Arabic’ speaker. The voice recordings have never been made public just a transcript, so any attributions to individuals is not confirmed. The definitive claims of ‘these four men did x’ or ‘x said this’ when not a recorded call in wikivoice is a misuse of wikivoice. ] (]) 16:00, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
:Your language implies far more doubt than actually exists. Reliable sources are reasonably concordant on these matters. There is room for modification, but I don't think the may-or-may-not tone is helpful. We follow the conclusions of reliable sources rather than introducing our own analysis of primary sources. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 16:21, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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I saw to 49.185.208.16. (Thanks for the backup, btw. It's good to know that someone else found that edit sketchy) Do you know if there's a discussion/policy that specifically addresses the issue of "Jew-tagging"? Or is it something that is enveloped by ] and ]? ] ] 00:10, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
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:It comes up at ANI from time to time, and it's condemned each time. In the MoS it's specifically deprecated - see ]. We get two kinds of editors that do that - proud promoters of Jewish accomplishments, and bigots. Before edit filters prevented it, we'd get ] instead. I'll look around for a discussion, I know one exists, and I've probably quoted it at some point. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 00:43, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:There's this and here . I haven't gone and looked for the AN and Jimbo discussions. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 00:54, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
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:<ec>Strictly speaking, consensus is not to change from one to another per ], so I misspoke somewhat in the edit summary. It's sort of like sticking to one language variant once it's established. Personally, I think it's kind of anachronistic to use gendered language for ships.'''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 00:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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:Thanks, there appears to have been a group of accounts doing the same things there. I’m still looking at some earlier edits to see if they’re worth reveling. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 11:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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I read your article.....and while I appreciate you asking me, I am not sure how much help I can be with it. (Although if you have specific questions from specific references, I might be able to help.) First off, I am not a bridge guy (I do mainly industrial buildings). AASHTO is kind of a world unto itself. Bridge design is a specialty area in structural (kind of like precast/prestressed). We use to gripe about the fact the SE exam was 20% bridge questions.....and we (i.e. building guys) were clueless. (I had to get AASTO's 16th/17th ed. and try to pick off the easy questions.....but I digress.)
All that being said, here is a good thread (with some references) on this topic on Eng-tips.com: . Like some of the posters said: we tend to think more in terms of "redundancy" than "Fracture Critical". I am not sure if I've even heard that term before.] (]) 20:45, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
:Well, I'm an architect, so I'm worse off than you - my competency is in building structures, and as you observe, we generally think in terms of redundancy - there are few non-redundant tension-loaded elements in a building. Thanks for the clue, I'm going to try to stick to generalities and avoid getting down into the engineering weeds, and hope somebody in the AASHTO world looks at it. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 20:49, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
::I came across another paper on this . I am kind of fascinated by the history of this.....mainly because I haven't heard of it. It appears this has been a focus in more recent decades. (After most of the references I am familiar with were written.) Of course, fatigue checks have always been a part of AASHTO.....but I didn't know this was part of their intent (i.e. a overall failure of the whole system).] (]) 21:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
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:AGF doesn't immunize you against criticism for your behavior. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 22:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
::This is directly addressed in what I posted above. I am not seeking to be "immunized from criticism". But if you fail to understand the difference between constructive criticism and unfounded accusations and not assuming good faith, then I do criticize you. In fact, my track record can show that I do seek objective feedback for my actions out of my own volition. And I do accept and recognize objective criticism and even when I make mistakes. But I don't like when people make unfounded and false accusations or rumours against me, much more administrators, who should know better. Thanks. <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">]</span> ] 22:22, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I think you're acting in good faith. That doesn't mean that everybody is compelled to agree with you, or never to criticize you. The tendency to filibuster the slightest criticism is another characteristic that I'm seeing on this page. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 23:07, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
== Oh dear ==
Yeah... so... – ]/]! Hope you see what I was ''trying'' to do! I think my logic is sound, even if the geography isn't!!! ] (]) 09:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
:Well, you got to within 400 miles or so the cities began with B and the states with M. However, I take your point, see my discussion on the talkpage about a pedantic insistence that the bridge ran from Dundalk to Baltimore, which may make sense in a legal sense, but is otherwise nonsensical, and I did say "outside Baltimore" or "to the east of Baltimore" would be fine. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 10:01, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
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This is not a hoax this is culturally significant local legend back by reputable news source. It also helps to further display the cultural impact the Chupacabra cryptid legend has stretched to other area of the world outside of mexico. ] (]) 17:12, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Hey uh it's been a while. I'm improving, but still have some issues. However today I discovered I made a major error with this image.
:Then I'm sure that you can provide several references in reliable sources that actually describe the alleged appearance in Huntingdon Valley. The reference you used made no such mention. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 19:37, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
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So on March 31 I uploaded this image and as it was in the report I thought it was the public domain. I knew the license for uploading images from the NTSC, so I uploaded it. However today I was just looking for other images when I noticed the REAL source:https://www.airliners.net/photo/AdamAir/Boeing-737-4Q8/1115292?qsp=eJwtjbEKAjEQRP9lay1EsLjubFN4hWC9bIYzEC9hs4LHcf/uGuyGN4%2BZjaQsho/d1woaqIFVnnSgysqvRsNGijk1U7ZUllHszdm9KRxDeLjXitp1dRLZMIqgGuKf3zRCfxWa9MnZL04eoFPPdL44j6nVzH0DxinTvn8BWDgyTQ%3D%3D
I realized that the NTSC had removed the watermark in the image and edited its size. Unless this made the image entered the public domain, I've accidentally stolen an image! ] (]) 01:08, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
:Isn't the government great? It's happened with images of historic buildings - we see that often. It's also possible that the original photographer granted the NTSC permission. Go ahead and nominate it for deletion on Commons as a good-faith misunderstanding, Thanks for being conscientious, and thanks for taking the time to learn how to do things right. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:14, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
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== Foul mouthed IP hopper has returned ==
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The IP hopping vandal who has targeted my talk page and various pages has returned under a new IP address.
{{You've got mail|dashlesssig=] (]) 19:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC)}}
His original one is 68.197.237.168, which he abandoned after getting blocked. I can tell as he is acting the same as he has before, saying that all Admins and Non IP users on Misplaced Pages are jerks. He only said that on my talk page was because I demanded him to never talk to me again after he was last blocked through another IP and for bullying non-IP users.
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Here is the link, just to show I’m being truthful.
...a couple times for "Jew tagging" and in general bad editing practices has picked up where they left off after the latest 3-month block expired: ] A good number of their recent edits involve some form of apparent anti-Jewish animus (e.g. ) or whitewash well-known antisemitic conspiracy theorists (e.g. ), while others have simply been reverted for being unsourced or undue. As the most recent blocking admin, I thought I'd bring this to you first rather than give this person a platform at ANI. Cheers, ] (]) 01:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
:Blocked. I can't say that your comment does you much credit - IPs are people too, and registered users aren't "better." '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:01, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
:If this was their first rodeo I’d warn or give them more rope, but they seem to be trying to skirt on just the edge of what they were doing before. 1 year this time. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
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== IP39.40.248.48, ==
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{{You've got mail|dashlesssig=] (]) 22:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)}}
Hi Acroterian. You blocked {{no ping|39.40.248.48}} and revoked TPA, but they seem to be back as {{no ping|39.40.219.199}}, {{no ping|39.40.248.160}}, {{no ping|39.45.67.159}}, {{no ping|39.45.75.28}} and {{no ping|39.40.199.196}} to basically copy-and-paste ] onto various user talk pages. I've blanked the talk pages, but I suspect they'll be back to do it again. -- ] (]) 06:40, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
:I've blocked them and deleted the user talkpages so they can't be used. In composing the rangeblock I found a couple more. Thanks for the heads-up. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:16, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks for checking on this. I only stumbled across these particular accounts because of the non-free logo used in the copied-and-pasted content was flagged for a ] review. Not sure how to catch them otherwise. -- ] (]) 01:43, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
:::I think I'll check for the logo use now and then, they seem to be pretty persistent. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:44, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
== VisualDiff crashes on pages with complex/manual HTML changes ==
== AE 9/11 page ==
Can you please restore my user page until after ] is resolved? The example links for reproducing the bug are no longer working. Otherwise, could you please recommend where/how I might post the ''exact'' same history so there's a working example the MediaWiki/Wikipedia devs can reference? Thank you! ] (]) 02:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
If you could do something about this Clip on username person on the A&E for Truth page(https://en.wikipedia.org/Architects_%26_Engineers_for_9/11_Truth), I'd appreciate it. You left a message on his page (already) to knock it of. Thanks.] (]) 21:42, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
:What on earth does a copied course syllabus have to do with that? User pages aren’t hosts for copyright violations or HTML debugging or whatever you’re trying to do. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
:Somebody else already blocked him for 31 hours. Thanks for your attention in this matter.] (]) 22:07, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
::It's the delta (change) between the revisions that's relevant to the bug report. Wikimedia asks for "clear how to reproduce the situation" (]). Unfortunately, I only know the contents that trigger the bug in ] and/or the ], not the root cause that I would need for crafting an example from scratch. There-in, the relevance is to provide Misplaced Pages's software developers with a ''working'' example of the bug to help make visual diffing work more reliably for us all!
:Just got home from work - I don't edit at the office. Looks like it's stopped for now with C.Fred's help. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 22:52, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
::All that in mind, I understand that user pages aren't the intended place for providing Misplaced Pages's developers with such an example for debugging the underlying MediaWiki software, my apologies for that oversight. <s>Could you recommend where I should post a working example (solely for the lifetime of the bug report)?</s> Please disregard. I've attached the information directly to the bug report. Thanks, again, for the guidance. ] (]) 04:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
:::Well, yes, that's what you would do. Putting a course syllabus, code source or not, in Misplaced Pages itself is a copyright violation from what I saw, and Misplaced Pages itself isn't a Mediawiki or coding forum. You might want to try the Mediawiki wiki for that sort of thing: . '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>'''
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{{You've got mail|dashlesssig=] (]) 19:28, 21 April 2024 (UTC)}}
Previously you blocked this user for employing personal attacks, they have resumed. His behaviour is bizarre but it is not up to me what should be done. If you believe I should be going to an ANI and not troubling you, please just let me know. Thank you.] (]) 00:11, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
:He's been warned, and right now his behavior doesn't rise to ANI or blocking territory. I'll keep an eye on him, he's having a bad evening, it seems. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 00:20, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
::He got caught trying to end-around the undeletion rules, which he has been blocked for before, and received no warning. Unless you count my clumsy intervention. He called me names, which he has been blocked for before, and received no warning. He persisted in behaviour that he is fully aware is not okay (removing a speedy deletion tag from an article that he created) and for that I guess he did receive a warning. So.... we are all afraid to give him more attention for bad behaviour then? Sorry I bothered you at all.] (]) 01:36, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
:::You asked for my opinion: I don't block people on demand. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:38, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
== Pouvez fermer mon compte Sur le Wikipédia de langue anglaise ==
== Zack milkovich ==
Monsieur le ministre@heures, je ne veux pas vous faire perdre votre temps comme vous me le dites sur ma page de discussion. Je ne veux pas perdre mon temps. Vous pouvez fermer mon compte sur le Wikipédia de langue anglaise. Cordialement Laurange Jolicœur ] (]) 20:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
I wasn't done citing. What did you flag that needs citation? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small>
:Everything you've added needs to be cited. Don't leave it to the end. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:41, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
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== I tried to file an SPI report but I mangled it... ==
Hey, I have written you an email. ] (]) 12:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
You blocked Robinbanks12345 and an IP took up right where Robin left off so I filed an SPI but I seem to have mucked it up. ] was originally ] but now there's like a warning thingy on the new page that the new page might be wrong? Help.<br>
Heh, it's been so long since I filed an SPI I followed the directions and it looked wrong so I changed it but now I'm not sure what to do. Thankeverso in advance - ] (]) 18:19, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
== Meyerarticle ==
== Partial blocks ==
So I just partial-blocked my alt account from ] and the template namespace (but disabled autoblock), and logged into it and visited https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages%20community&action=edit. If I'd fully blocked the account, this would trigger an autoblock on my IP and this account; I'd like to try this, but ]. What happens if a partially blocked user attempts to edit one of these pages, and then logs out: is an autoblock applied, and if so, is it a full block, or is it limited to the scope of the original partial block? ] (]) 21:47, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Can you look a little closer at what C. Fred has just repeat and weigh it up against the Misplaced Pages's guidelines?
:Well ... damned if I know, to be honest. I'm not sure if the autoblock would apply only to the partial block topic, I hadn't considered that. I would ''think'' so, but it's outside my experience/understanding. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 21:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
:Zzuzz or another checkuser would probably have better insight on that topic, since they'd see the consequences. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 21:54, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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== George Stinney "Talk" comment ==
Note the summary I left.
If you wishtojudgethespecifics,pleaseallowmeto provide them. Thank you. --] (]) 01:51, 11May2019 (UTC)
Why did you delete ALL of my "Talk" on George Stinney? ] (]) 20:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
:Talkpages are for specific, sourced, actionable suggestions for article improvement. They're not fora for the opinions of individual editors or for general discussion. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 20:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
::In 1968 in Orangeburg, law enforcement officers shot thirty African American students, killing three. These students from Claflin College and South Carolina State College had been protesting a segregated bowling alley. Two year later, in Lamar, two hundred white men armed with ax handles, chains, and stones stormed three school buses transporting African American students to the high school. ] (]) 20:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes, it was a terrible time and place. But this encyclopedia's article talkpages are for suggestions on article improvement, not for general observations on how awful things were. Misplaced Pages is not an Internet forum. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 21:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
{{hat|Not a forum here either, please read ], which has lots of sources}}
::::How do I say this "Wiki" Proper? I will do my best. But first I would like you to know a little something about me. I am a "FACT" checker from day one. My Grandmother imbedded in my little pea sized brain the following quote:
::::"Believe NOTHING of what you HEAR and ONLY HALF of what you SEE".
::::Let me start with 2 questions for you.
::::Q1). BEFORE Misplaced Pages, where did YOU get your "FACTS"? (Please answer below)
::::A1).
::::Q2). My last reply to you (Orangeburg 1968), is most definitely a "FACT" but not from "WIKI". It is straight out of The Smithsonian Magazine, and it is only ONE paragraph of "The Orangeburg Massacre" in 1968.
::::A2). You don't have to answer this question. You can try, but....
::::Moving FORWARD...
::::It is only ONE of the many "FACT CHECKS" I do when someone decides to, ohhh, "Underestimate Me". So, for you, I have attached a link of "The Smithsonian Magazine" article (Note that they do NOT have {#} please) as, quite frankly, I do not have the time to give all my FACT resources to WIKI.
::::Lastly (I really hope you read this article), I NEVER come to Misplaced Pages for FACTS. I saw a "Documentary" about it on a "True Crime" (I am a True Crime buff) channel I "TRUST" and when I typed it into my browser (NOT GOOGLE) the "Wiki" page was the 1st to POP up (I bet you all pay billions for that spot) and I foolishly clicked on it (Because I know UNEQIVICALLY better than to trust this info). I read what "Wiki" had to "SAY" about "George Stinney" (the youngest EVER to be EXECUTED), saw hundreds of your blue {#}'s which I know UNEQUIVICALLY that they mean it was either "Edited for WRONG FACTS" or "Misleading", "Sorry, wrong, here's an update", "Sorry you were fooled by a so-called Historian", blah, blah de, blah ditty blah.. noticed the "TALK" tab and like a dumbass, signed up so I could write what I did the first time. Which, by the way, is so very true and I saw many others doing the exact same thing.
::::In summary, Misplaced Pages is commonly referred to and known as (and ALWAYS has been from day ONE) "Wiki-Rumor-Has-It but we'll fix it with blue {#} if you call us out on something".
::::My knowledge comes from a lot of research, fact checking and being or living someplace where I SEE, HEAR, and WITNESS the TRUE goings-on of what I UNEQUIVOCALLY KNOW as a FACT still happen to this very day! And I am NOT afraid to say it directly to anyone's face who attempts to "call me out" on a fact that I UNEQUIVOCALLY KNOW, LIVE and BREATH due to incompetent hacks who crossed my path of life.
::::And finally, in the "Southern Schools" students are "NOT ALLOWED" to use Misplaced Pages for "ANY and ALL assignments or you will fail with a big fat F and have to do it all over again". That is a TRUE FACT that I know UNEQUIVOCALLY. And if you do not believe me? Please allow me to introduce my "Genius" son.
::::I will now leave you to spew more "wiki" and I will kindly unsubscribe to "TALK". Just for YOU :).
::::Here is "The Smithsonian Magazine" link. Enjoy and it has been my pleasure to tell you what IS.
::::
::::Sincerely and from the bottom of my heart,
::::TOPSECRETSQUIRRELL ] (]) 01:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
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:::::This is somehow a response to my request that you not use ] for general discussion? We have a very detailed article on the ], extensively referenced to scholarly sources. Please feel free to read it. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::I did! Then immediately went back to "Britannica.org" and "The Smithsonian's Library". ] (]) 12:10, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
== Hey ==
:You've been doing this for some time now with an account and IPs, and it's been disruptive - I've read the reference and it supports the content that you kept removing before. Provide reliable sources for the individuals involved - the ''Times'' is a reliable source, and it's no less reliable because the reference is offline. I've protected the article - again - because of your removals. If you have a policy-based argument, take it up on the talkpage, remembering that Misplaced Pages isn't a showcase for fringe theories, or for the notion that a perpetual motion or free energy machine is real. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:05, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
who was inviting to be site blocked? I did not see the message because of an edit conflict. ] (]) 17:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:it's preferable to find sources instead of summarily removing it, unless it's agreed to be dubious or unsourced and tagged as such for a long, long time. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 23:34, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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:::::I don't know what counts as exciting, {{u|Drmies}}, but you may want to have a look for yourself. My response was "meh..." ] (]) 16:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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== Why ==
Why did you revert my edit on List of Fictional Countries of the Earth? There was nothing wrong with my addition ] (]) 11:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
] (]) 19:55, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
:It is unsourced, and I missed the link back to the main article. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 19:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
::It is not my fault there is no article about the book yet. That is why i linked to the author's article where the book is mentioned
::There are also plenty completely unlinked cases on the article so i don't get why you're singling this one out specificially? ] (]) 19:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
:::There really ought to be an article on the book first, and there really ought to be sources for the others, and for your addition. I've left it there though. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 19:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
== You're too kind ==
== GeekyAviation ==
I want to indef - with a statement that I'dacceptan appeal with an indefinite topic ban. ??? ] ] 09:50, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
You might want to remove Geeky's TPA. . ] <sub>]</sub><span style="color:#6B8E23">\</span><sup>]</sup> 03:51, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
:Nevermind, Bbb23 has taken care of it. - ] <sub>]</sub><span style="color:#6B8E23">\</span><sup>]</sup> 03:54, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
:I probably am, but given their prior history of uncontroversial Irish buscruft, I figured I'd warn first. It was a close decision. I expect to regret it. 12:25, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
:Kebman has been warnd as well. I expect more trouble there,giventheirhistory. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:34, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
::Good, I was in the shower. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 04:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
::I'm watching that. ] ] 12:41, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
:::I went back to his last Talk:Islamophobia edit which had been hatted and deleted the whole thing. He claims it's not a rant - despite ending it with "Resist! Resist it while you can!’ " It's hate speech. ] ] 12:46, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
::::He's speaking through a Hitchens quote. It has no place on the talkpage though, and it has no bearing on article improvement. It's just an approving copy/paste of Hitchens' rant. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:49, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
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== Why Did You Remove RossoSPC's Sandbox ==
== Pearson manager ==
Let me get myself clear. RossoSPC's sandbox is a '''sandbox'''. Not an article, a sandbox. He's not making that a real article. Yes it is a hoax, but it's a sandbox, not an article. I do sound uneducated but I'm still somewhat confused that you deleted a sandbox
Regarding the part I put in and you removed due to sourcing, would these be be sufficient for the point's inclusion.
:Hoaxes aren't permitted anywhere on Misplaced Pages. See ] and ], G3, which applies everywhere, not to mention that Misplaced Pages isn't a free webhost for fiction. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
] (]) 06:53, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
::he said he was testing out how to work on combat articles though ] (]) 02:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
:::war articles*
:::also im going to migrate it to my own website do not make a big deal about it please ] (]) 02:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
:supposed to be a work of fiction not a hoak but ok ] (]) 02:36, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
::You wrote something in the format of an article purporting to describe a civil war in Texas. It's both. Not here. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
:::i will migrate it to my fiction wiki then ] (]) 02:39, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Which is perfectly fine, I understand your motivations for creating it, I've done things like that too (long ago, before the Internet). '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
== You can't fire me! ==
:No. C&L is a partisan source, and Facebook is Facebook, not a reliable source. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 11:48, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
I actually quit a couple minutes before you fired me! ] (]) 13:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
== RevDel ==
:And people who tell me I'm doing something wrong have to be punished for being meanies. I think they're a teenager based on the edit to Bearcat's userpage and the edits to their own userpage that had to be suppressed for TMI, so it all goes together. I think they're not yet living in the Real World and are finding out what adults expect of other adults the hard way. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 14:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
::Yeah, that seems pretty likely. ] (]) 16:12, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
== May 2024 request ==
Thanks for the quick deletion, but you may also want to hide my edit summary, which includes the name of the user I reverted. Thanks, --] (]) 02:14, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
:thanks --] (]) 02:17, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks for doing the revert! '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:18, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Acroterion}} No problem. I saw the user name and knew it was an LTA - if you take a look at ], it may make sense to put the phrase on the title blacklist? --] (]) 02:19, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
::::Nope, nuh uh - I have no experience with that, haven't seen it before, and have no business editing it. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:26, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::El C got him. There are more of us than there are of him. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:33, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
::::::I semi protected AN/ANI. Time for a break from that nonsense. ] 02:36, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::::{{ping|El C}} Thanks. Also, you may want to hide ]. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go file a task on phab explaining that I can still see the username in {{logid|99222439|this log entry}}, despite it having been deleted. --] (]) 02:38, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
::::::::Sure thing. Anyway, looks like Acroterion got to it already. ] 02:44, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::{{ping|El C}} just to double check, the log entry I linked to, the user name is deleted, right? I shouldn't be able to see who it is? --] (]) 02:45, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::I can't, at least without doing a special secret admin thing - have you refreshed? '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>'''
:::::::::::Refreshed, purged cache, restarted browser, the ~hack~ still works - does this qualify as a "security issue" for phab? --] (]) 02:51, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::::I'm an architect, not a coder. You're miles ahead of me in anything phab-related. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::::{{ping|Acroterion}} I'm not sure about that, but I filed it as security to be on the safe side --] (]) 03:04, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::::::As in, I design buildings for a living, and can give a lively talk on ''building codes'', but a coding class in graduate school led to my only C grade. We used terminals on a mainframe for class ... the terminals had bell keys. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:09, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::{{ping|Acroterion}} nice. Also, I can see past , and I didn't see anything about that user until I saw that you had reverted at talk:CU and went to investigate - guess the protection El_C applied wasn't enough... --] (]) 03:14, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::], you design buildings? How cool! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 03:44, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::Thanks! As with most professions, once you've been doing it for a while you have a clearer picture of what the work entails - in architecture, a high proportion of time is spent arguing about money, rather than designing things, for instance, but it's still fun when we get back to the designing part. I mostly work on educational projects, from kindergarten up to university work. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 16:44, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Not sure if {{Diff|Sweet Trip|prev|1224286030|this content}} should be ], but the link to the Reddit thread is definitely slander. Thanks in advance for looking into this.]] 12:59, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
== User:Vnkd and ] ==
:I think so, it makes criminal allegations and, while that doesn't appear to be the primary intent, includes a promotional link. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 14:00, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
== 200.88.232.145 ==
See , (which is the most obvious) and basically the whole of the article history today. As you previously blocked this editor for making the same sort of pointy deletions on the same article, this may be of interest to you.] (]) 16:06, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
How do you know they're using a proxy? Or, is it just an assumption because that second Talk:AOC comment made it clear it was LTA? – ] (]) 22:13, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
bunch of idiots. You, different admins should check for what reason we need to know about that Su-22 shot down over Syria and tons of other information, but we cannot really report incidents involving Indian MiG-21s. This is becoming a bunch of idiots fest. Keep your wikipedia for yourself and ban all other users at this point and your IP trick is very idiotic too and proves what a bunch of nuts you are. - Signed: vnkd
:The IP shows as previously blocked as a proxy. My assumption of course is that the previous block was correctly attributed. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 22:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
::You mean with ? Or a different one? – ] (]) 22:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Well . Maybe that /24 needs to be shut down. I think it's highly unlikely that person is in the Dominican Republic, but whether or not he is I think that range can get a longer block. Expanding to a /22 shows edits that clearly originate in .do. ] ] 22:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Oops, never mind - just noticed you blocked the /24. ] ] 22:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
:::No, when I went to block the IP for awfulness, the Twinkle block window told me that the IP had been previously blocked twice by ST47ProxyBot,which also shows in the block log for that IP. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 23:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
== PicturePerfect666 ==
:You are entitled to work to find consensus for inclusion. You are ''not'' entitled to disrupt articles to make a point, or for some sort of payback for being disagreed with. That is why you were blocked, and why this IP is now blocked, for doing exactly the same thing after being told not to. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 16:56, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
I’d take a look at the user’s talk page history, at least, before continuing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Ironically, I warned all involved users in a discussion taken there that accelerating rather than trying to communicate leads to things getting heated and makes it worse - but they called the whole section ridiculous and removed it without, per their edit reason, ]. I wanted to try AGF asa far as possible, but if that behaviour has got to the point of a temp block, the message isn’t getting through. I also don’t know how old the account is, but the aggressive weaponising of irrelevant policies ] to me. ] (]) 09:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
== Yet another sockpuppet of Unicornblood2018 ==
:That kind of conduct is something I see on a practically weekly basis all over the 'pedia, and it's not a subject area where I have an extensive knowledge of the perennial problems, but I'll take a look around. At the moment I'm trying to remind a bunch of people to stay out of trouble. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 13:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
::I'm not going to comment on the article talk page itself because of my previous warning about the contentious topic marker, but I'm pretty sure PicturePerfect666 has just created a sock to continue their edit war. See the "Revert needed" section of ]. ], signs up at 01:42, posts that topic at 01:47 with knowledge and opinion of the editwar, and then immediately retires the entire account (a process new users aren't normally aware of) at 01:48. Big ] to me. ]] 07:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
:::To go through proper channels about this, ]. ]] 10:14, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
::::As Bbb23 notes, it's not something that's actionable on its face. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 13:01, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
== 1RR on Eurovision article ==
See .
Just a simple question: does the 1RR on the article apply only to content that relates to the Israel-Palestine conflict or to all content? ] (]) 12:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Sigh... ]] 02:45, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
:Only for edits that relate to Israel/Palestine. 3RR applies otherwise. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 13:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
== Hello, ==
:Blocked. RBI. Thanks for the note. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:51, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
I added CORRECT info to the ``''North Korea and weapons of mass destruction''`` page which YOU have reverted, I have intelligence about this subject, b/c my Cousins in laws cousin is part of a mission discovering the EDP445 missile, thanks! -UI ] (]) 02:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
== Article review ==
What is missing or should be culled from ]. I feel we have too many sections and some areas could be combined. I have a period of free time and may try and push this to peer review after I reread the NIST report. If you're inclined, feel free to post any suggestions to the article talkpage so we can get a dialogue started.--] (]) 19:33, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
:I'll take a look in the next couple of days. I'm at a conference right now and have a fairly intense week. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:21, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
== Arbitration request opened ==
== seriously ==
Hi Acroterion - just wanted to let you know that has opened an arbitration request about ARBECR - just thought you would like to know, seeing as the other day, and the arbitration request case relates to the same group of users, so you might have specific insight into the topic. Only posting in case you didn't see it and would like to make any statements - feel free to completely ignore this
attacking? Im tired of his repeated and uncalled for revisions. Who is yalls bosses? who holds yall accountable? Questioning someones ability to be impartial is not the same as an attack
:Seriously, yes, this is an attack. However, could you tell me which article you're concerned with, so I can review? we're not clairvoyant, and Kuru isn't either, since there are no other edits to you IP's name. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:27, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
:I'm guessing you mean this edit .? As Kuru noted, the first reference is a circular reference to a Misplaced Pages mirror, and the second is a Facebook page, which isn't a reliable independent source. Pointing that out doesn't deserve abuse in response to a statement that the material has to be sourced correctly. Find a source, like we expect, and it will be fine. Until then, don't harass editors for enforcing the referencing policies. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:42, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment#Clarification_request:_Extended_confirmed_restriction ]] 17:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
== What should be done about BubbleGuppiesIsTheBest? ==
== Removing stuff from my talk page ==
Hello there Acroterion, and thanks for backing me up with BubbleGuppiesIsTheBest. I am wondering if something should be done with them? This isn't a new user, they have done stuff like this before, and have been blocked on similar grounds. I am getting strong ] vibes here. Should we give him ''one'' more chance? Thank you.
you reverted a junky comment on my talk page. It would be good if you'd at least use an edit summary to say why when doing such things. ] (]) 18:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
P.S: Can you please process my file mover right request, I've been waiting 2 weeks for a response. This isn't me demanding the right, I am very kindly asking for an admin to review my request. Thanks again. ]<sup>]</sup> 15:37, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
:Sure, will do. There were dozens of similar spammy edits made by the same block-evading IP. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 19:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
==IP rants again==
:They're perhaps a little young, and if they don't change it's likely that they'll be blocked, but I don't like to summarily block kids if they're not vandals.
:As for the permission, can you give me a couple of examples of files you've renamed and files you'd like to rename? '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 16:24, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
Given this latest bit of lunacy, including the continual use of a variation of "retard", and some weird kind of self-promotion, maybe it's time to shut that guy down. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 22:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
*File:Aloofbobcat with his Daughter.jpg Renamed per ].
:Um, yeah. I'm thinking of founding a think tank too. Its first position paper will examine "Gelato vs sorbetto: which is more satisfactory after dinner?" Research is warranted. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 22:40, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
*File:Cover art of Wham's Music from the Edge of Heaven.jpg Renamed per .
::Mmmm. Sounds like a savory subject. :) Better be careful about that block. He says it's illegal. :) ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 23:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
There were a few other ones, that were deleted for other reasons.
:::Apparently national security is at stake. I say gelato, at least until I run out. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 00:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Yummy stuff. :) Meanwhile, I advised him that this is a privately owned website and that his threats are meaningless here. I'm just wondering if he's going to yap his way into making a full-blown legal threat. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 00:45, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::And I see what you mean about the /64 range being mostly undisruptive. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 00:53, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, I was a little surprised that they're taking a leap off the high board, their editing history doesn't give any hint that I saw to lead to this Double Top Secret special security police business. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::I've turned off their talkpage access because TERRORISM and DHS and all. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:03, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Very good. It was actually getting kind of comical. I've been here a number of years, and have been accused of various things, but I think this was the first time alleging I was a national security threat! In any case, the California-based IP has said enough by now that any recurrence of this rhetoric under another ID should be easy to recognize. ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 02:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::::I was kind of hoping they'd invoke ], since it's clearly of such high-level national importance. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:26, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
== Things to confess, and a desire ==
I would rename files that are tagged, so that they can get addressed quickly, and are not left for days. I would also check ] regularly to check if there are files that need renaming per ]. Any other questions, I would happily answer them. Thank you. (Please ping me, so I can see it quickly. Thanks again.) ]<sup>]</sup> 16:30, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
:Done, though I tend to agree that it looks a lot like you're just collecting hats. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:15, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
You *have* , haven't you, Acroterion? ] @ ] (]) 22:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! However I can happily assure you I am not a ]. All my permissions were for a useful purpose, not for showing off. Like my page-mover for ], my Autopatrolled so that my articles don't need inspected, and my file-mover for ]. Stuff like that. I am not showing off with the permissions. I hope I've cleared up a few things up. Thanks again. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:30, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
== I mentioned you in an AE report ==
== IP issues ==
The thread is '''].
Hello.
I'm not clear on where this belongs, and IPs and sock puppetry confuse me, especially ipv6, but here goes:
Thank you. ] (]) 13:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Back in March, you blocked a range which covered 2601:42:800:A9DB:* and I think some others. That editor was laser focused on race and intelligence articles, and also posted on some experienced editors' talk pages in a way that seems like borderline canvassing to me.
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Strictly from behavior it's obvious that editor has moved and is now using a different range. The topics and content are mostly the same, but comparing from the blocked range to seems like a good demonstration.
] from the past month (May 2024).
I was hoping to avoid the headache, but ] happened. This new IP changes very rapidly, but the massive quantity of these posts is disruptive. I would appreciate if you could take a look, or at least link me to the page that explains how to properly file an SPI for a IP range, or even how to identify a range, because after ten years I still don't really get it. Thanks. ] (]) 02:11, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
:The edit you've linked appears at first glance to be the blocked IP on a new range. They're still blocked, so that's evasion. You say there's a massive quantity of posts? Can you give me a few more?
:SPIs on IPs are a waste of time in most cases. Give me a little more to work with and I'll see if another range needs to be blocked. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:21, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
:I see the conversation on DGG's talkpage that apparently was the motivation for Sinuthius' filing. I'll look around among those IPs. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:26, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
:The range I blocked was a Comcast range in the Philadelphia area. The latest IPs are Verizon IPs in the Knoxville area. The distance between doesn't mean it's not the same person, but it does complicate things a little, and it removes the new IP from the realm of an easy automatic block for evasion. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:32, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
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{{ec}} Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. It's hard to even know where to start, but ] has a lot.
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:Thanks. Don't bother with more right now. I'm about to pack up - I'm alternating between work emails and WP, and I'm about done for the evening on both fronts. I'll look into the IPs above over the next day or so - tomorrow is wall-to-wall meetings 60 miles apart. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>'''
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::Thanks. Have fun and/or don't overexert yourself. For future reference, the ones I struck out are part of this :], which I assume is separate. ] (]) 03:01, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::I tend to think the (original) LA, Philadelphia and Tennessee IPs are related, based on what I see behaviorally, via DGG's talkpage. The Tennessee incarnation appears to have realized that they overdid it with the nonazis business. Admins at AE aren't terribly impressed with the complaint against you or the means by which it arrived. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:30, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
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== I need help ==
ad you have helped me in he past. My name is Einar, on wikipedia I am carptrash and today I was blocked from editing on wikipedia. When I tried to report it through the suggested channel I was informed that there was o block, but there was one everywhere else. I am now at a friend's house, where I am not blocked. How can I get unblocked at home? Thanks, ] (]) 05:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
:Hello Einar. I’ll see what I can do, but it will probably need a checkuser o see what’s going on with your IP. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 11:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
::Asking other CUs. ] ] 12:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
:::{{u|Carptrash}}, from a CU perspective I'm not seeing any blocks that should be affecting you. Were you logged in to your account when trying to edit? Most IP blocks will not affect registered accounts. ] (]) 12:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
::::If you ''are'' unable to edit while logged into your account, please send me an email with the message you get while trying to edit, including the IP, and I'll look into it. ] (]) 15:58, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::Thanks all, I have been unable to log into my account for perhaps a month but was still able to edit as a number, but no more. But I can at a friend's house. ] (]) 23:34, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::I will try and do that, the problem is that all that sort of information is on my computer at m house but I can't edit there. I need to email it over here. Maybe I'll try and do that now. It just involves some driving around. ] (]) 23:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
== Reply For My Page That Has Been Deleted ==
why you deleted my artist about page? that was for my google page with all my social network, when you type slainix on google there's a page that show with social network etc, i don't understand why it got deleted, it's not to promote myself i do that, it's for people who don't know me yet this p*ss me off. ] (]) 10:00, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
:Misplaced Pages isn’t a place to promote yourself. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 11:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
== Today it is this ==
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:{{u|Carptrash}}, that block is set only to affect logged-out users, so you should be able to edit as long as you are logged in to your account. If you're having trouble logging in, you can try resetting your password using ]. ] (]) 11:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
== Bilseric evading block again. ==
See ]. They even link to the discussion you closed where they admitted being a sock. ] ] 19:36, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
:The IP is blocked now. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 20:42, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Thanks for making those edits on behalf of me, revoked TPA for the account and blocked the IP. ] (]) 10:03, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
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== Your vandalism ==
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may '''contest the nomination''' by ] and removing the speedy deletion tag. <!-- Template:Db-catempty-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 18:02, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
I made four careful edits to an article, and they improved it. I described what I did in the edit summaries:
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Someone came along and undid all those changes with the edit summary "". That is egregiously insulting and frankly moronic. It is not possible for it to be anything other than an act of bad faith. They sought to provoke, by undoing a 100% good and positive edit, for no reason at all, thus restoring the article to an inferior state. And you endorsed their action, protecting the article in addition, to prevent me or anyone from restoring these good and productive edits. Your deliberate effort to undermine the integrity of the encyclopaedia is vandalism. Why did you vandalise this article? Why did you encourage an act of bad faith trolling? ] (]) 20:15, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
:If you can’t address other editors appropriately, you’ll be ignored. DIsagreement isn’t vandalism - vandalism often involves the word “poop.” '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:59, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
::Vandalism is ''editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, which is to create a 💕, in a variety of languages, presenting the sum of all human knowledge''. Mere disagreement is obviously not vandalism. Undoing good edits for no reason certainly is. If you are not able to say why you undid my edits, then you did it for no reason. So all you need to do here is explain why you undid my edits. Why are you not prepared to do that? ] (]) 04:06, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
:::And angrily demanding that other editors treat with you as though you were the Emperor of Misplaced Pages furthers the project's purpose how?--] (]) 04:48, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
::{{ping|Acroterion}} See also ] --] (]) 07:39, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
::::Your edits were made in good faith, they were reverted in good faith, but your comments about other editors do not reflect good faith. Make your case (politely) on the talkpage for your changes, recognizing that consensus is required. You will get discussion when you approach other editors respectfully. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:14, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::Stop being naughty you big meanie administrator!!!--] (]) 15:03, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello - you hid a revision on my talk page () as grossly insulting or degrading. I do not find this edit insulting or degrading and did not ask for it to be hidden; can you please un-hide the edit? Thank you ] (]) 19:56, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
:''Your edits were made in good faith'' - yes
:We were more concerned about potential outing, not that I believed that any of it was real, but we wanted to err on the side of safety. As long as there are no concerns on your part, I will un revdel it. The "grossly insulting or degrading" was more a term of art for the revdel. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 20:48, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
:''they were reverted in good faith'' - no. Leaving an insulting edit summary is not a good faith action. ] (]) 19:59, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
::Whatwasyouroldaccount?Youknow, theoneyouuseduntilyougotblocked?--] (]) 21:18, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
::Oh, no, from the snippet that I was able to read, there is no danger of real information being divulged in that edit. ] (]) 06:40, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
::Behavior is similar to the BKFIP, now in Greece. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 23:34, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
:::I'm leaning towards that conclusion as well, looking at the previous 3 IPs. ] ] 23:50, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
::::Thanks ] (]) 18:46, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
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== Why Does Misplaced Pages Take Tom and Jerry Articles that Seriously? ==
I realized you downgraded protection for ]. Can you as well do the same for ]? Its protecting admin is currently less active than you are.] (]) 17:41, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
:I can, but given a history of attempts to move titles, I am reluctant to do so. What do you think would need to be done with the redirect if it was unprotected? '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 18:45, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
::Downgrade edit-protection to semi. Just keep the move-protection settings as it is (extended).] (]) 19:01, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
:::I'm OK with that. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 19:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
::::Wait a moment! I mentioned ''extended-confirmed action'' for move-rights, not ''autoconfirmed access''! Aside from that, I am alright with your changes to edit-rights.] (]) 20:43, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, we're really not supposed to keep ECP if it's not needed, so I brought it all to autoconfirmed. My decision. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 21:25, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::This time, ''I am the one'' who is uncomfortable. You mentioned that there are {{tq|attempts to move titles}}, though not sure if you're typing about the target page or redirect, but that case was unfortunately true with ] five years ago which eventually got admin-move-protected. Furthermore, with the ongoing calamity in mid-east, I fear that both the target page and the redirect would experience a move-war given that both of their current move-protections are non-extended. Are you still confident about half of your decision?] (]) 21:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Yes. There are always possibilities, but we can bump it up if needed. The general guidance for ECP is to not make it perpetual except in unusual circumstances, and I think most of the potential move warriors have gone on to hotter topics for the time being. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 21:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
== A barnstar for you! ==
I mean even children don't read them, do they? BTW Misplaced Pages should clear out all the Tom and Jerry articles. PS It was just ridiculous of how I got blocked just because I was experimenting on a Tom and Jerry article. ] (]) 22:26, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
:Your personal opinions and bitter grapes about getting blocked for repeated vandalism are noted. Having said that, neither are valid justifications to invalidate the inclusion of Tom and Jerry themed articles.--] (]) 22:58, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
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Can anyone delete ] ] revisions?] (]) 22:26, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
:Yeah, those are only less bad. I see an OS hit the others, which is good because work intervened for me. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 22:36, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Drmies}} It's special, isn't it, having that status? We should form a club. People who never realized they'd be acknowledged as "victims" by the FBI for their participation in, and administration of, Misplaced Pages. Who knew?
:If only it were easier to shut that kind of stuff down for good. ] ] 20:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
::Hi, I'm Drmies, and because I do things on a website people email my bosses and tell lies about me, threaten to kill me, and threaten rape and murder on my family members. My case against one of these abusers (just one) went pretty far, all the way to the California State AG, apparently, and then--well I don't know what happened then. It's been quiet for a few years. What I'd love to see is the WMF taking these concerns seriously, and pressure law enforcement and start civil procedures. The real kicker? As a boy I have it relatively easy compared to our female colleagues. ] (]) 20:43, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Antandrus probably has even more experience along those lines than you do, unfortunately. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 21:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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Hey, do you reckon the page should just be semi-protected indefinitely? I don't think the issues are going to go away. We aren't going cover (what are typically) symptoms of psychotic disorders in an in-universe way, so I think our coverage of the topic is always going to be upsetting to its proponents. ] (]) 04:27, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
:Probably. I won’t do it tonight, I’m about to signed, especially since it would turn into an argument about involvement, but feel free to ask at RFPP. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 04:50, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
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== User-generated sources ==
== ] and ] - Help please. ==
Literally every source (unless AI) is user-generated. Every book is written by a person. Every story told by perspective. ] (]) 17:21, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Looking for some advice. I note you chose to become involved in the "discussion" I began on the above on the Talk page of ]. There is no way I want to become involved in an edit war at ], but I see a problem with an article, and a somewhat rude editor defending it, with what I see as not logical, just angry comments. I see no point in discussing it further with him. Where do I go and what do I do next? ] (]) 22:43, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
:I wouldn't call the response to my comment an apology, but at least they acknowledged that there's a problem. The most that can be said is what the articlesays, thatitwas shot down by a missile fired from Russian-controlled territory. I don't have a lot of patience for the use of peripheral articles to advanceapoint of view that's at odds with the main article - Kennedy assassination articles are notorious for that kind of thing, and I think your edits and comments are appropriate. Contesting their edits doesn't make you a forum-stylecommentator, and I would leave it alone unless they keep trying to put it back in.. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 23:35, 9June2019 (UTC)
:That's not the same thing, please read ] to see what constitutes a reliable source. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 20:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks. But it's back in right now. That's the problem. I am trying to remain polite through this, and as I said above, I don't want to be accused of edit warring. ] (]) 23:49, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
:::I've reverted it with a rather long edit summary. That could be construed as becoming involved, but I have little patience for nibbling around the edges of subjects like that, obnoxious edit summary and all. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 23:56, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
::::Thanks. ] (]) 00:09, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
== IPhopping ==
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Hi. Wikiaus98's talk page has had offensive posts on it made by some IP's again. The posts are very similar to how they originally if not the same. I think that those other IP's are block evasion by the previous IP(s). You may wish to therefore semi it for some time. Thanks.] (]) 03:39, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
:Since the IPs are dynamic, I've semi-protected the talkpage for a while. Thanks for the note. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:49, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
::And maybe block the range?] (]) 03:51, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
:::Not really worth the trouble, they're focused on the one page/user, and we don't rangeblock for minor stuff like that, given collateral damage. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:54, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
::::My concern is that someone's been IP hopping. PS it's confusing as to when the page protection will expire. I thought it said 03:48 10 June 2019, not 03:48 10 July 2019 :).] (]) 03:59, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::Interestingly enough, everytime I've removed effensive posts from talk pages (probably of indeffed users - I don't remember finding offensive posts from IP's talk pages - who have been for variety of reasons. I've seen nothere, sockpuppetry and vandalism only accounts so far), this case was the lastest and among at least a few where the page has been edited afterwards. In this case, very similar if not the same things were posted, as if being restored from page history.] (]) 04:03, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::We need more data points to properly rangeblock, since they appear to be using two ranges, and for three IPs who are just being silly a rangeblock is a bit extreme - the economical approach is to keep them away from their target. In any case, it's late here, and I'm not feeling smart enough to do a proper rangeblock. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 04:05, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
::::::Thank you.] (]) 04:08, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
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== ''The Bugle'': Issue 219, July 2024 ==
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On the Tupac Shakur page on the lead where it says "african Americans" can you put the word "other" in front of African Americans since Tupac was also black. Action heroes are real keeps removing it and vandalizing the page. Thanks ] (]) 15:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
They are now operating on:-
:No. Read ] and work it out on the talkpage or at ]. If I see anybody else calling someone a vandal they're likely to get blocked. Disagreement isn't vandalism. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 16:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
::so if ActionHerosAreReal says in his edit summaries "this is original research", even though he's removing multiple sentences in this Tupac article that is sourced, and he says "we agreed with my edit on the talk page" "see talk page" even though everyone disagreed with his edits even administrators and he's still warring with people, that's not vandalism? Ok it's not, since I didn't Read the rules about vandalism, but I'm pretty sure it breaks another rule. ] (]) 19:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:::No. A sincerely-held, mistaken opinion isn't vandalism. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 20:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
::::ok ] (]) 21:03, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
== Some, if not all. ==
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I think you should go back and review at least some of those based on their recent editing history and consider self-reverting. While it might be correct for not all of those to have the tag, to have removed all of them includes cutting out the kidneys with the cancer. ] just as one example where this absolutely is being affected by the latest shooting and we should at minimum leave the tag in place for days, if not weeks. This was a world changing event. ] (]) 02:52, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Still in the same part of Greece, although according to another editor, they are subject to world-wide abuse with ]. I have made a request for page protection. Perhaps this should be for a longer period? Regards, ] (]) 13:14, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
:I left a couple when I reviewed. No, your spammed templates were unnecessary and disruptive. They can be placed if needed by someone, but not the way you were doing it. No, it's not a "world-changing event," it's the kind of awful crap we have to deal with without overdramatizing. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:55, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
== No seriously, who asked you? ==
:Favonian got it. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 04:03, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
Hey, so you left a response to something I said and when I said; "Who asked you?" You felt the need to say that just because you were an administrator nobody needed to ask you. Can you tell me why you feel like nobody should need to ask you even though you're the equivalent of a glorified hall monitor? ] (]) 03:43, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
== ] ==
:Can you explain why you think aggressive comments like this help us write an encyclopedia? If you just want to treat people badly, find someplace else to do that. I see that another janitor (we like that term better) has blocked you. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 04:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
== IP 2600:1007:B009:12EF:45F8:15C6:83CE:3639 ==
We may have someone taking part in the AFD both through their registered account and unsigned. Both made unsigned edits to the AFD, one was the creator of the article and the other an IP who made edits there within minutes of the article being created. Both are using RAPID as an argument too. I hear a duck quacking. Can you please check this out?], is the complaint department really on ] 19:10, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
I understand that different admins have different opinions on how to handle this sort of thing, so I'm bringing this up in an attempt to understand that discrepancy. Did you feel that my warning to ] was insufficient? – ] 15:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
{{ping|WilliamJE}} and {{ping|Acroterion}} How dare you accuse me of something like that. I ran WHOIS on that IP and it is located in Arizona. I am currently working in New York close to the crash site and I also live in Connecticut. The timing of that IP is purely a coincidence. I have been on encyclopedia for two years and would never violate a policy. ]<sup>(])</sup> 19:13, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
:After the second trolling/forum post at ] I had decided to block if they did it again. I didn't see your warning at their talkpage until after I'd blocked ,and considered unblocking and leaving your note there, but decided to leave it, since I was more concerned with the trolling nature of the comment than with the issue you'd warned them for. I'm OK with unblocking and giving them a little more rope.'''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 15:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
::No need to unblock, I was just curious, for my own benefit, whether you disagreed with my handling of the issue or if you just didn't see it. Either approach is fine. – ] 15:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
:::We were just looking at two different aspects of their conduct. Recent events are likely to encourage this kind of soapboxing, and while we don't need to get to Barney Fife levels of bud-nipping, I think it'll be another thing we have to contend with. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 15:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
== Requesting early admin attention at concerning edit ==
:As AmericanAir88 says, it looks coincidental. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 04:04, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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Came across on a user talk page requesting sort of offline information prima facie might sound innocuous but to read with sentence not a very good vibe and I suggest some early admin look into the issue. ] (]) 17:50, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
:I see what you mean. I've left a note on their talkpage. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 18:54, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
== Also posted about this on Jpgordon's user talk but could you also please take a look at ==
a legal threat ? I reverted the post but thought an admin who had edited the article or posted on the article talk should probably check it out. I also notified Jpgordon since they had edited the article/article talk as well. Thanks, ] (]) 17:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
:FYI, I blocked them for the legal threat, but I suspect they were not long for this project anyway. ]] <small><sup>Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!</sup></small> 18:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you both. People believe what they want to believe. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 20:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC).
== Truefacts24 ==
Thanks for dealing with the ] report regarding this editor. Could you follow up with them regarding ] once more? Their after your warning about personal attacks was to double down on this notion that I somehow have an ulterior motive to supress the truth here. Thanks in advance. ] (]) 03:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Nevermind, you seem to have already done so. ] (]) 03:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
:The axiom that a username containing some version of “truth” is a red flag remains intact. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:27, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
:: FYI they are now trying to circumvent their partial block by canvassing others to change the article back to their preferred version . I've just noticed this after reverting some interesting SYNTH and OR of theirs on a different article. ] 05:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
=== Redux ===
They've returned from their week block by claiming that ] is a "fake news" website (it's Spain's foremost sports newspaper) and reverting more material to their preferred POV. I've final warned them, but I think we've run out of patience here - what do you think? ] 15:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
* Yeah, the warning didn't do down too well so now indeffed with email and TP revoked. ] 15:31, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
:*I was down to my last nerve with them anyway, so it would have taken a lot less than that torching of any doubt to indef them. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 15:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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] of this as gross BLP violation. Thanks.]] 11:55, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
:Done, and /64 range blocked. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 11:59, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks for jumping on that block. That was rather half-baked from me! ] (]) 16:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
:Stopping it is the main priority, then we can take further action. No worries, thanks for jumping in too. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 16:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
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While you deleted my comments on that talk page instead of providing any reply: Maybe you might answer here on your own page? Thank you and greetings from France's Atlantic coast. We do not have mountains here where you could remove any tops so all we are afraid of is that heaven might fall on our heads. ] (]) 21:26, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
== Sock again ==
You may wish to block another sock: ]. Thanks. ] (]) 16:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
:Oops, sorry. ] is the sock you want to block. Sorry about that. ] (]) 16:55, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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Your reversion of my edit left an errant ref tag and some very poorly worded text. Please review your changes. Thanks ] (]) 22:36, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
:Your edit introduced informal commentary and removed a reference. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 22:44, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
::Actually, no. My edit removed the informal commentary and restored the reference. ] (]) 22:57, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes and no: "became the stuff of legend" is hardly appropriate, but yes, you added a ref. You might want to reconsider that line. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 23:06, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
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Can you please ban and protect the page ] as I'm tired of rollbacking it. '''''Warm Regards''''', ] (]) (]) 14:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
:Note: I request RPP and Ban of the account '''''Warm Regards''''', ] (]) (]) 14:07, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
:Oh boy, another one. Yes, I'll semi-protect, along with blocking. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 14:08, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
:::I didn't realize it went beyond that account. Now long-term protected. Thanks for looking out. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 14:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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Mt. Rainier has one name, the official name. It’s not disruptive to remove the non-existent other names, Mt. Tacoma or Mt. Tahoma. You’re a douche.
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:No. Do anything like that again and I'll block you. This is an encyclopedia, not your private world where things may only have the name you designate. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 00:30, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
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{{User|Dino Moro}} has been doing many edits to ]. This article was protected by you due to the history of socking there. I have strong reason to believe Dino is a sock of another account, User:Psychonot, who you indefinitely blocked. Besides Mercy College, both these accounts have edited here.], is the complaint department really on ] 00:49, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
:::{{User|Roachmoan}} also looks suspicious. Mercy college related edits and stuff like here and here. What do you think?], is the complaint department really on ] 10:07, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
:::Another thing- Dino added ] to Mercy College's notable alumni only minutes after Roach created the article. If you decide this is another sock, can you deep six the Reitz article (Mango's socks have a long history of creating articles on Mercy College alumni of dubious notability) per ]?. Reitz is only a local judge and fails notability guidelines BTW.], is the complaint department really on ] 10:29, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::{{User|Doilyminis}} is also slightly suspicious.], is the complaint department really on ] 15:42, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
::::::Probably, but they haven't edited in two weeks, so we'll see what they do. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:15, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::{{User|Karperfish}} after years of not editing (and after those other accounts were blocked) has come active and came to Mercy College.], is the complaint department really on ] 01:03, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
::::::lolIdidn'tknowall this wasgoingon.Idon'thaveanyotheraccount.BTW,William'seditlookedlikeamassivevandalismtome,asexplainedoneditsummary.IamnotrelatedtoMercyCollegeinanyway, but IbelieveweshouldhelpbuildMisplaced Pages,andnotact like vandalsbasedonpersonalvendetta.--] (]) 01:10, 21June2019 (UTC)
I know ], but they seem to have gone off road again with ]? For the most part, they seem to be making OK edits or edits that at least look OK, but then they create something like this draft. It almost seems like two different people are making the edits. Do you think something like that is possible? -- ] (]) 01:02, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
:It's possible. One way or another, I've placed a short block to see if that gets their attention. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:30, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Here's an edit to Mercy College's talk page by an editor with no prior edits.], is the complaint department really on ] 02:03, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::::::Probably a Karperfish/Mangoeater1000 sock, I'd like to see what else they do before I block. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:09, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
::::::::::I think this follow up edit confirms it.], is the complaint department really on ] 11:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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:{{tpw}} Mr E. There are several problems with . First, it creates a ] as there is no article for the "tsardom" readers will have no idea why the link leads to the ] island article. Second, wikis cannot be used as a ref as they are ]. Third, and most importantly, there is no mention whatsoever of the tsardom at the CI article. While exists on another wiki it has nothing to do with CI and it still cannot be used as a ref. ]|] 19:48, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
:And there is no indication that the experiment undertaken by two teenagers meets Misplaced Pages's guidelines for notability: see ] for the general criteria. It needs to have received significant coverage in major independent media with a reputation for fact-checking. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 22:47, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::I saw that, but hadn't done anything about it. I will blank it for now, and if it comes back it can be MfD'd or speedy-deleted. The editor seems to be otherwise good. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:34, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
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Hi! You have blocked {{u|Jazz1972}} for one month for ''"continued personal attacks after previous block for same, nationalist POV warring"'' in February 2019. The user was absent from WP since then, only to re-appear yesterday to repeat his personal attacks against me and {{u|IamNotU}} . His edits were reverted by a third user, {{u|TU-nor}} . Previous discussion at ANI . I thought I should let you know. Thanks. ]] 20:25, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
== Revdel on page Molly White ==
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Could you possibly have a friendly word with {{User|Eibln}}. He keeps creating categories with just one entry and here for just two examples] or NAVBOX with just one or two. Even though around 20 of his NAVBOX are currently at TFD, and I tried having a friendly word with him, he went ahead and created two more NAVBOX (here and here) like all those at TFD. If you don't know, NAVBOX with zero to two links are routinely deleted at TFD. BTW, Smithtown New York one of the sportspeople categories I linked to is very close to where I lived till I was 15 and due to my father owned two businesses in that town. Smithtown was also home to cousins of mine, so I spent alot of time there. Thanks for the help.], is the complaint department really on ] 15:14, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
I see you rev-del-ed (is that a verb?) one revision in the page history for ] today, but there may be one other, by the same user, also earlier today. Same reason (RD3). The revisions are five minutes apart. Thanks for looking into it. ] (]) 13:46, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:I'm about to run out on errands, I'll look at it when I get back. I agree that navboxes should have at least have half a dozen links, preferably live, to justify their existence. It's not exactly disruptive, but it is something of a time-waster for all concerned. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 15:20, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
::We agree. It isn't disruptive, just time wasting. When you have time some gentle words from you might help. The editor does otherwise very good work on softball related artices.], is the complaint department really on ] 17:11, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks, I've got three videoconferences this morning, so real life takes priority. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 14:07, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Coordination of separate contracts and timelines for rootop HVAC unit replacement and a re-roofing project could be more exciting than you might think, but alas, it isn't. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 14:25, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Page protection got downgraded and leaving this edit-request on the discussion's talk page won't gain any user's attention.] (]) 20:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
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] was a redirect to ]. {{User|Sonoftheshahismael}} has created an article from it, but it is entirely unreferenced. I reverted once but before I could leave a message, they have reinstated it. I don't know what to do now? Can you advise? ] (]) 16:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Hello Acroterion, Could I just call your attention to the activities of {{userlinks|181.127.141.143}}, based in Asuncion, Paraguay; who has now changed dates on ] three times without any supporting sources. I have left two notes on their Talk page to no avail and they are still reverting to their unsourced version. Can I leave with you please? Regards, David, ] (]) 09:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
:I've movedyourquestionfromthe]articlespace (an understandable mistake) to here. I'vesemi-protected the article for a week or so. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 13:17, 6July2019 (UTC)
:I've given them a welcome-unsourced and told them where I draftified the content. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 16:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
::Many thanks for all your help and my apologies, butlifehasbeendifficultrecently. Regards,David, ] (]) 13:27, 6July2019 (UTC)
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Editor Eibln (The one I wrote about who was creating categories and NAVBOX) came to my talk page. You might want to read it and comment. ], is the complaint department really on ] 23:58, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
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:Yes they do - revisions deleted. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:09, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
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== Storrs-Mansfield ==
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{{User|Libbycoifs}}. A recently created account and every edit of theirs is related to Mercy College in New York.], is the complaint department really on ] 12:39, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
:You're not to blame for this person's obsessive pedantry. I don't think they're compatible with WP; we deal with lots of ambiguity and either-or issues, and this kind of absolutism isn't productive. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 16:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
::I don't think I am, though this is probably the first time (and I have more than 100,000 edits) that I have seen someone immolate is such a pendantic way. So *when* he shows back up, I'm not sure where to report it...] (]) 17:53, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Just tell me, or Cfred. I've seen people like this before, who are willing to die on a hill to prove that "The Beatles" is better than "the Beatles," for instance. Some people can't coexist with ambiguity or contradiction. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 17:56, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Will do. Again thanks.] (]) 18:15, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Done undoing. In mainspace, only ], the UConn Student newspaper still has the string Storrs-Mansfield. At least two other experienced editors left it in the address for the main office for the newspaper while reverting other changes. Inside a street address, I don't think common name applies, so I think we are good, I'll do a check in a few days after his block expires.] (]) 03:47, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
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Would it be at all possible if I could ask your assistance to have an IP blocked, for a while? {{checkip|139.195.53.91}} is the latest IP being used by a long term, block-evading, IP-hopping vandal who, when haunting the IP ranges of 139.XXX.XX.XX and 140.xxx.xx.xx constantly spams pages with inappropriate, nonexistent, and or inappropriate and nonexistent categories, as well as insert poorly written original research opinions. And, if not blocked, the vandal will continue with its unhelpful edits until it moves onto another IP or is blocked. I would give it warnings, but, years of dealing with it show that it never bothers using its (IPs') talkpages beyond misusing them as sandboxes.--] (]) 01:04, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
::''Arigato gyoza Christmas''--] (]) 20:43, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
:Also, could we renew the block you gave 139.195.53.91? It's active again. THank you in advance.--] (]) 14:15, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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HiAcroterion.Sorrytobotheryouagain.Couleyoutakealookat the contributionsof{{IPvandal|118.104.114.31}}. They are unsourced and appear tobedefamatory. I believetheyshouldbe revdel'ed. Thanks, ] (]) 05:58, 20July2019 (UTC)
Fun fact, I just ran into an account from another LTA that had used the same proxy as this one. I've never seen that before. ] (]) 22:08, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
:They're all identical musings on connections with Alibaba and airdrops and stuff and things. I don't see that it's really a BLP issue, so I don't think it qualifiesforrevdel. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 18:03, 20July2019 (UTC)
::I've been dealing with this sock for the last few of days. Although I've tagged the protections as BLP, I also did not feel they needed to be actually revdel'd. ] 18:08, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
:::Thanks both. I'd thought of it more in the "smear" category of ], but more than happy to be guided by you on this. ] (]) 21:07, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
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:Meh, I'm immune to that kind of puerile crap by now, but I've gotten rid of the one that got him blocked - I'd meant to circle back but was probably distracted by my family acting like normal people, instead of this obnoxious child. Simple vulgarity (without any particular non-bot target) isn't eligible for revdel. Is there another specific comment made about another editor somewhere? '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 19:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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::Not to my knowledge, no. Thanks. ] (]) 20:37, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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:It took me a while to disentangle the mangled syntax in your comment above, but I eventually figured it out. Your Miley Cyrus edit was unsourced - you were out in front of the news cycle, and you provided no substantiation. Everything requires sources, particularly statements that somebody got married. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 23:44, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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On the flight 93 page, you will see that three articles are together as part of the same reference, and I was simply making them separate; they have been on the same reference for quite a while now; the references pertain to Leroy Homer’s widow and her belief that her husband was alive after the hijackers took over the plane. I was trying to make them be on separate references. You will see what I mean when you look at reference number 40. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:06, 22 July 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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I just read the body of the article and it is full of affirmations without any source. It cannot be accepted that almost an entire article is devoid of sources. It is true that some parts do have and carry sources together with scientific studies, but many others do not.
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:I see at least seven references. While the referencing is not optimal, it's far from unsourced. Please use the article talkpage to discusss specific concerns and to propose sources to back up proposed changes. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:12, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
] (and ], their last IP) has been edit warring on ], insisting that the recent remake of the game does not belong in the lede. Other users as well as myself say otherwise, because full remakes are notable for the lede and are often in GA and featured video game articles such as ]. They last edit warred on ] as ] and you blocked them, and they still have not learned their lesson.] (]) 18:29, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
I do not say that there are no references, but there are many phrases that do not have any type of source or reference. I will not delete parts with sources or references, it would be appropriate to delete opinions and phrases without source of the article.
:I'll keep an eye on the article for trouble. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 19:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
::As with the Chad McQueen article, they've been accusing us of 'advertising' for adding information that's relevant, and it looks like they are deliberately shifting around IPs.] (]) 02:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
:::I've blocked the current IP range and protected the article for a while. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:20, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
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If you look at the body of the article there are many unsubstantiated statements, which seem subjective opinions like that Portugal led the entire Age of Discoveries among many others.
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Are there references in the article? Yes of course. At least 7, but that does not eliminate the fact that many sentences are undocumented and lacking of sources. {unsigned|46.222.202.7}}
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::Check all of the references in detail, and don't make large changes without getting consensus on the talkpage first. Be specific, and always discuss on the talkpage. References aren't required for every phrase, but it's best to at least have every paragraph referenced. That doesn't mean that removal of unreferenced paragraphs is appropriate. The talkpage is where discussions belong, not here. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:21, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
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I will not eliminate large parts, but small details that are clearly opinions and agenda, and the rest I will do once I start a Talk. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small>
Hi there, I saw you were on the list of active admins and I think we've edited in some of the same spaces before. I just wanted to keep admin aware that the GSL ] is especially active these days which is of course partially my fault (involved). Just giving a heads up that there is current discussion on the talk page and at ].
::::Thanks. Don't forget to provide sources for your own proposed edits, and remember that talkpage discussions can unfold over days and weeks. You can place <nowiki>{{cn}}</nowiki> tags at places where you think citations are needed in the article. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:34, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
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I have as much right to post to talk pages about disputing content in articles as anyone else. No article was changed, but i protest and demand a moderator look into the anti conservative bias in several articles linked to Russia collusion investigation as well as presidency of donald Trump or the lack of mentions of hillary Clinton campaign involvement in the Russia fusion gps scandal ] (]) 06:19, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
::Understood, I know you have bigger fish to fry, and THANK YOU for doing what you do. ] (]) 03:20, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
:You are subject to the same rules as any other editor. You may not post defamation anywhere on Misplaced Pages, and you may not abuse talkpages as a forum for your personal views. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 11:44, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
:::I took a quick look at the talkpage and while it's a voluminous, unresolved discussion, it looked like everybody's being reasonably respectful, or at least are not actively fighting. In any case, it's getting late and I'm wrapping things up for the day. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 03:22, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
::::Of course, I just hope you aren't in Florida. ] ] (]) 03:32, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::No, I haven't been to Florida since 2012, I'm about 900 miles north of there, near my ]. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
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You left a threatening note suggesting I had engaged in "disruptive editing" on the page for ]. You threatened me with a block if I "persisted", as it were. What are you talking about? Can you list the "disruptive edits" you're referring to? ] (]) 21:53, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
:It would be this nonsense ,. but you already know that. Whatever the document is, it's not a "communist manifesto," and it has nothing to do with anti-fascism. If you keep making up nonsense like that you'll lose editing privileges. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 23:37, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
::It also wasn't 'my' edit. For all of the sixty-odd edits to that page in the past 48 hours, you're awfully belligerent over a single revert. You need a break. ] (]) 01:06, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
:::You took ownership of the vandalism when you reverted its removal. You're warned for that. Don't do that kind of thing again. Bluster is a poor rsponse. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 01:13, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
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No need to use the harsh words "isn't appropriate" or block me from editing.
:Most current airliner pages are on my watchlist because they're favored by two or three LTAs, so it was pretty clear somebody was acting up. Glad I was able to cut that short. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Quite a shame, as the book is public and reveals truths about the institution advertised. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small>
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Hi Acroterion. Would you mind restoring the visibility of the reverted edits made at this page? I've previously discussed with two other admins about the issue of hiding death-related revisions from this talkpage, which can be seen ]. Thanks, ‑‑] (] <b>·</b> ] <b>·</b> ]) 21:54, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:I disagree with Primefac's view that "we get death notices all the time, they're easily checked and not that serious of a BLP vio." In my view, maliciously stating that an elderly (or any) person is dead is as serious as it gets, and we have enough ghoulish fascination with being first to report someone's death that we don't need to encourage the trolls. And this is an LTA, so "purely disruptive" comes into play, with ]. Primefac's entitled to his opinion, but I see no value in unhiding the abuse. That said, if someone else thinks it's fine, they are free to do it. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 23:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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:::I agree, the boundaries aren't clear. I tend to resist defining things rigidly, since rigid boundaries can be tested or exploited, and we have as much instruction creep as anybody can stand already. I am not wholly in disagreement about death vandalism; checking really famous people is trivially easy. It's the less obvious or easy-to-check cases that are more pernicious. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 13:37, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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What do you mean? As soon as I got your messages I refrained from further writing. I think it isn’t “appropriate” to be mean to people. I had no idea about these rules until you said them and I took no further action. Please be nicer and more appropriate. ] (]) 02:14, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
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Hey, for ], would you call it a "pseudo-pediment" like the NRHP document does, or can it properly just be called an ]? --] (]) 07:44, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
:{{tps}} reads article ]. Acroteria are very pretty! ] | ] 11:28, 1 August 2019 (UTC).
::@Bishonen: Think of them as Greek gargoyles, things perched up there to pretty up the corners, usually derived from a vegetable form. We don't get to do them very often nowadays.
::@Doncram: I think the author of the NRHP doc was free-associating it a little. It looks to me like they are interpreting the very slightly sloping top of the front parapet as an allusion to a pediment, and the knob at the middle as a sort of acroterion form. Acroteria go on the ends and middle of a pediment, the terms are not interchangeable. Me, if I was describing it without reference to the NRHP narrative, would call it something like a "slightly sloping parapet resembling an attenuated pediment, with a central projection alluding to an acroterion." You can really get down in the weeds in Greek-derived design terminology, with ], ], ] ... '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:01, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::*I've always thought it sounded a bit pretentious. User:Egg-and-Dart might be a good alternative, though it might be interpreted as a chain of breakfast restaurants offering activities that might not be wise first thing in the day. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 00:55, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
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I'm near 100% certain that this is an LTA sock; I've modified the block to be indefinite and with talk page access and email disabled. If you object, please let me know (ping me if you respond here so that I'm notified) and I'll be happy to discuss it with you. I doubt you're going to care, but I figured that I'd let you know just in case. ;-) Cheers - ]<sup><small><b>] ]</b></small></sup> 12:27, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
:]: I meant to block indef - that tendency for Twinkle to reset block durations if you change the reason is irritating. All good. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 22:32, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
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What do you think of ] now? I plan to get some new pictures next week. ] (]) 16:55, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
:It's much better, but I think the text is a bit tangential in places. I'll leave a few review comments on the talkpage. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 18:58, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks. I appreciate any help. Might be hard to believe, but I cut out much of the harassment of Catholics in Maryland content that was in a sandbox version—too off topic. Shamefully, I live in Maryland but knew little about its beginnings. Just about anybody from Maryland that goes to the MD-DE beaches is aware of the church, but few know anything about it. ] (]) 14:51, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
:::Acroterion—you for your help with ]. I have taken the advice and changed the very last citation from a web page (with the scroll down advice) to a book. The old web citation is still there, but commented out. The "trouble-maker" citation in the Info box is still there—hopefully that problem will be fixed everywhere soon, and I want to be consistent with other pages that discuss something in the National Register of Historic Places. The trouble with the National Register link is why I used the Maryland Historical Trust (the second citation) to link to a copy of the National Register Nomination Form. The church was fun to work on—a nice break from my usual American Civil War or glass making. I have two more (in Easton) that I might do next spring. Your time was appreciated. ] (]) 21:27, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
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:It certainly earns a block for racist vandalism. It's not awful enough for revdel though, it can remain as a memorial to that editor's behavior. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 19:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
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:I can't say I've seen that particular editing pattern, at least not that I remember.. I would think it should be easy to spot via a properly constituted query, which might give more clue. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 15:52, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
::Lol you assume I can put together a properly constituted query? (not even sure what a query is, I just edit stuff around here...) I'll continue to poke around my old edits over the next few days, I know I've seen this editing pattern before... Somewhere. Thanks, ] (]) 17:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
:::That's why I dumped it back on you! My skills are limited in that regard. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 17:44, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
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{{u|Acroterion}}, I hope I don't bother you with these undo requests, but I had a request (not only from me but also from some editors like ]) to restore the Misplaced Pages article of ], which is the same request for the same reason (because he in this season has debuted in ] which ]) as ] for the Misplaced Pages article on ]. ] (]) 08:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
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{{u|Acroterion}}, I hope I'm not bothering you with these undo requests, but ] from {{u|Alkid2023}} (the same editor who made an undo request for ]'s Misplaced Pages article) who apparently is still not used to how ] works and now he wants to undo the Misplaced Pages articles of ] and ]. ] (]) 04:52, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
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:Both are done now. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 15:30, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
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Hi Acroterion. I saw you reblocked this IP, but I can't seem to find any more recent activity from them. Is there something that happened? Thanks. ] (]) 06:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:No, it was me when I was tired and misread the edit filter log. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 14:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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Hi Acroterion, sorry to disturb, but the IP you blocked for edit warring at the ] article has come off their block and . They have, at least, commented on the talk page, but I’m not sure that anything said there is going to stop the disruption. Should I apply for temporary page protection to focus their efforts on the talk page alone? Thanks ] (]) 00:25, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:How about not lying about me, not trying to force jargon that nobody has used in decades into the article, not reverting just for the sake of reverting, and talking to me instead of childishly trying to get me blocked again. ] (]) 00:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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:::It looks like ] to me; I've blocked them for one month.--] (]) 01:15, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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Hello Acroterion -- I won't revert but actually I disagree strongly with this tagging. Imo, single source is intended for articles where (1) the fact it pends off a single source is a significant problem (because the source is unreliable for some reason), or (2) the fact that the meat of an article is from one source is not obvious from the reference list (because there are a mass of trivial sources). In this case, the source appears reliable, independent and secondary.
It is my strong belief based on the behaviour of the sock Lamptonian, as well as the userboxes on the sock master, that the intent of almost all their edits was to discredit material about liberal/feminist/queer academics or similar, and I'm sad to see this goal achieved in this case. I'm busy right now, but I will try to look for another source when I have a moment; I assume reviews of the subject's work will be available. Did you search for one and fail to find it? If so you should state this explicitly. Regards, ] <small>(])</small> 06:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:Feel free to revert. I was trying to sample the good, bad and indifferernt edits Lamptonian made. That one falls into "indifferent." As I've said elsewhere, it will take months to properly search and improve the articles Lamptonian tagged or slashed. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 14:00, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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No idea how to put this gently, but the ongoings under Heiar and Moccia were serious and are common knowledge in the I-25 corridor. Three players sexually assaulted three other players and two student workers, and a UNM player was killed by a NMSU player. "Hazing" doesn't describe what happened at all. ] (]) 16:43, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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I'm sorry, but recent sources such as this and this are unambiguous, they use wordings like "sexual assault" and "sex abuse" for the happenings on the NMSU basketball team. KFIX and ESPN are mainstream news sources with no particular agenda. It's permitted to call a spade for what it is. ] (]) 20:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:To add to this: two of the men who were assaulted were paid 8 millions in restitution. If you can get that amount in a settlement you know the cSe had merit. ] (]) 20:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::Then don't call it "rape." And we don't infer from sources that anything "has merit" in that manner from a civil proceeding, that doesn't establish criminal culpability, only that there was a settlement. Yes, bad things happened, but we can only report on what reliable sources explicitly state. Inference is of no use here; stick to the sources and don't embellish or interpret. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 20:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
The report from NM DOJ does not mince words. The executive summary on pg 3 uses words like "sexualized hazing" and "sexual assault", and on page 10 the DOJ is explicit in stating that Heiar was terminated for cause shortly after the abuse was reported to police. That Moccia was terminated for cause is not disputed, that fact is widely reported in the news. "Scandal" is too mild a word for what went on at the institution.
As far as criminal proceedings go, two of the three suspects have pled guilty, and the third one is currently at trial and is looking at 5 years of prison. The complaint from the State is for "Criminal Sexual Penetration", "Criminal Sexual Conduct" and "Conspiracy to Commit Criminal Sexual Conduct", it's not great.
(Aside: US criminal law is a mess, many actions that ought to fall under criminal law are instead brought as civil actions, most infamously police misconduct. The public prosecution needs to stay in the good graces of the police, so the injured party brings a civil action and then settles before the case gets to a jury. At some point the "non-admission of liability" clause ends up being not really meaningful. Someone suffered injury, and they are awarded much money, and we can't call it for what it is. Suspicious people will say that was the intention all along.) ] (]) 19:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:We call it exactly what reliable sources say it is. The problem with the edits this weekend was with amplification beyond what the sources said. There is no bar to stating the issues (in accordance with ], and remembering the requirements of ]); we just need to stick to the references. All I want you to do is to stick to what reliable secondary sources say in accordance with policy, and we can talk about the problems with the program. We just have to do it with care and accuracy; this is the #7 website in the world, and we have a responsibility to get it right. No editorializing. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 22:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
== Block of ] ==
This user made one edit, the creation of a promotional userpage, and was reported to UAA. Seeing the report, I deleted the page, and made a choice ''as an administrator'' to warn rather than go for the no-warning block.I made this clear at UAA.
I'm curious as to why you thought it was appropriate to override my decision an hour later, when they had made no further edits? I believe my choice was within the bounds of administrative discretion and should not have been overridden without good reason. ] ] 00:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:We have different ideas of what constitutes a promotional-only account with username issues, I guess, it looked pretty clear-cut to me. I didn't think of it as ''overriding '' you, please don't take it that way, and honestly I didn't check to see ''who'' might have deleted the page; we shouldn't have to go walking on eggshells around certain administrators. We've all had occasions where we've taken a more gentle or lenient approach, or abstained entirely, and had another admin take a different action. This is the nature of our distributed administration of this website. I have a less optimistic idea of what demands a promotional account is likely to impose on our volunteers than you do, I guess.
:However, I am happy to reverse the block, as always, if another admin disagrees. While you may not think so, my overall approach to spammish accounts is pretty close to yours, and I believe I've made that clear in the RFC. I have different reservations about promotional usernames than you do, and it bothers me that we tend to act more harshly on accounts that at least are being more honest with us (like this one) than somebody with a throwaway username that's doing the exact same thing. I don't have a wise solution, except that the editing interface for user page creation might offer better guidance that WP isn’t like Facebook, and if you’re looking to expand your social media presence, you’re in the wrong place. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::To be clear, I don't think anyone need walk on eggshells around me, but I do feel that any admins decision to take a particular course of action shouldn't overriden without a compelling reason. I see blocks I wouldn't have made all the time, but I don't just go undoing them unless they are truly egregious.
::I think the thought of some sort of caution or warning when creating a user page/sandbox is a good one, and not an idea I believe I've seen before. We clearly have an issue where lots of people every day think this is the place to come to "get the word out" and something like that could help curb it at least a little bit, although knowing how the software is we'd want to make sure it actually works on the mobile apps as well.
::As I recall, the community has asked in the past for something similar when usernames are created, that being the obvious other facet of this issue, but I don't think we ever actually got it. ] ] 06:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::An absence of action isn't easily discernable here, and given the way the various queues and happenstance work it's not always the case that a deletion without a block indicates some kind of forbearance. However, I would have figured that out if I'd looked at the talkpage; most of the time it's just a speedy deletion flag, but sometimes not, as in this case. Keep in mind that those who patrol the edit filters look at the edit filter detail output, which is usually more diagnostic than what might have been successfully saved.
:::However, it was my impression that you were not particularly concerned with spam username/spam actions, but rather an apparently good-faith username with spammish content who might be brought around to being a contributor, and userspace deletions. There may be a unicorn out there who registers a promotional name and posts promotional content, who might be persuaded to be a contributor, but I haven't encountered one yet. I've nursed promotional editors along, and can't say that I've had any successes. I've had better luck with vandals, who aren't financially or ideologically committed to vandalism. We've got a recent serial sockpuppeteer who is somehow trying to edit on behalf of the UAE Federal Tax Authority, who is an example of the more extreme sort, who has rejected patient advice and who presumably has been commissioned to establish an FTA presence on all platforms no matter what.
:::Spambots are another matter, and we should show no mercy there. They're prohibited by the ToU, and should be treated as LTA block evaders. They're tailored to superficially look like good-faith accounts, and they've been running as long as I've been here. They're much less of a problem than they used to be.They're instantly recognizable once you've seen a few, and I always tag the deletions and blocks with custom summaries: "spambot."
:::As I've pointed out, my practice, and that of most admins, is to delete and warn for the promotional content without an accompanying promotional username, but the usernames that represent organizations pose a general username policy issue apart from promotion; it would be more of a question whether to softblock or hardblock in those cases. I would generally softblock if there was no accompanying promotion, or more likely just wait and see what they do (which is a standard answer at UAA), since a lot of those accounts have second thoughts and never edit. I'm not actually sure how the 499 edit filter interacts, I think it logs only and doesn't warn. There are a lot of false or ambiguous positives with 499 (as I said at the RFC, about half can be ignored), perhaps a more narrowly-tailored filter might target a smaller subset with a warning, but that's outside my skillset to construct or even propose in much detail. Perhaps 499 could be tailored for a fairly general reminder to not be promotional and to remind that WP isn't social media. I'd prefer proaction over reaction, which is the current state of affairs. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
== ] ==
{{u|Acroterion}} (I'm also tagging {{u|Liz}} in this request as a draft deleter who is), can you undo ] because the player is expected to debut () at ] in the ] which ], and I believe that the draft can serve as a kind of starting point for the development of the article before its debut, which after its debut will be concretized into a full article. ] (]) 01:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:I'll wait for Liz, but as usual, I have no problem with undeleting these drafts so you can work on them. Let me know if you don't hear from her; weather depending, I may be away for a while tomorrow for some minor eye surgery. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 02:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::Okay, if there's no reaction from {{u|Liz}}, then I'll let you know and wish you a speedy recovery. ] (]) 02:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
{{User|GoldRingChip}} keeps insisting on putting redirects into Congressional articles that redirect right back to the very same article in violation of ]. I have found three recently created articles by him full of these violations. Here is a link to the discussion at my talk page and the post I made at his page today. This is ] in my opinion. Remember Neelix and all his bad redirects or goofy pages?], is the complaint department really on ] 22:52, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Could I get a revdel for this please. Thank you. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 20:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Here is an example- ] which GRC created last June or 10 months after the discussion at my talk page. Click on any of the links 'elected' and you get sent right back to the same page. He's made a 100 (At least since August 2018) of these bad redirects even though they know it violates SELFRED. If that isn't a violation of ], I don't know what is.], is the complaint department really on ]
:In general, ''pro forma'' racist vandalism isn't normally revdel'd, unless it concerns a specific individual or is particularly gross (i.e., "kill all ***). But they've earned themselves a week-long block and a place in my watchlist. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 20:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::Got it 👍 ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 20:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::An elaboration - the "grossly-insulting" modifier is important, as opposed to the obnoxious-racist-jackass-who'd-better-watch-their-damn-mouth-if-they-don't-want-to-spend-a-week-at-the-dentist stuff. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 20:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::Okay, so I didn't make the request but I am a little confused. I was earlier told on a talk page to report an edit very similar to the one reported. Am I not supposed to request revdel these kind of stuff? <span style="font-family: Arial; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">] ]</span> 20:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Well, going by the way ''I'' read the policy, it didn't rise to the level of grossness usually revdel'd. We get a lot of dumb nasty vandalism, and we don't need to scrub the histories of all of it; revdel should be employed somewhat sparingly. We remove things that can bring harm or express a desire to harm, are copyright violations, insult or degrade specific living individuals, are the products of sustained disruption campaigns. or reveal the identities of people who wish to remain anonymous. For stupid schoolboy vandalism like this, it can stay there as a monument to their ignorance. Your request above was similar to this one.in its level of obnoxious rather than gross. Other admins may have a somewhat lower threshold for removal from the history, but it has never been meant for all vandalism. There does seem to have been a trend to apply it more generally to ethnic slurs like this one, but it's not uiniversal. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 20:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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The thought crossed my mind, but then I really needed to wind up lunch and get back to work. We'll see what use, if any, they make of my tolerance. Acroterion(talk)23:42, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I am curious where this three-revert rule applies to me. Please provide evidence. I have actually not reverted a single page. I am not even on one, yet you flagged my account as three. Why is this?DivineReality (talk) 01:57, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
You're right that you've donne it once in a given article (I thought you'd done it twice in the Biden article, I was mistaken). However, you're bouncing from place to place adding lengthy digressions about a lawsuit that has a long way to go before it reaches a threshold of due emphasis. Warnings do not mean that you've breached a threshold, they are just reminders not to. I recommend that you wait until any court action becomes a significant feature of someone's life. Mere existence is not notable. Acroterion(talk)02:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
Would you mind cease reverting the positive changes I make to the page
The statement I made was a highly neutral statement, that is pure fact, that is so embedded in Christianity- can it be more "neutral"?
Or how would you define "neutral"
It is not personal commentary, it is neutral explanation that is designed to make the text less ambiguous than it already is - as it seems biased towards the religion.
The sentence "19th century priests - including Donders - showed no respect towards existing beliefs (including Winti) is by any standard not neutral, since:
1. Is authos's presonal opionion not covered in bibliography
2. Contains only half of the truth: most (if not all) missionaries does not show respect towards existing beliefs, becuase it does not go on par with Christianity91.189.141.116 (talk) 13:21, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages is not a messageboard for your personal views or analysis. I have no particular issue with the removal of that statement, but amplifying or explaining it strays into personal analysis. ff you persist in editorializing you will lose editing privileges. Acroterion(talk)13:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Well, more like 18 months, if I'm reading the block log right, but we can find comfort that they've at least moved on from Matthew Garrett. Acroterion(talk)01:48, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I replied on my talk page and on the administrators' noticeboard
By mistake, I pinged a different editor. I edit it back, to your username, but I don't know for sure if it notified you or not. Dante4786 (talk) 04:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
You recently blocked a disruptive IP. I suspect this account is the same person. They left a comment defending the IP's edit and then made the same disruptive edit at Ronald Acuña Jr.. Nemov (talk) 01:10, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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Oh boy, I didn't see that either. I won't remove TPA unless they abuse it, but I will amend my comment, I see no redemption available to them. Acroterion(talk)18:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
You recently blocked this IP range for personal attacks, but I'm seeing very similar IPs (like this one and this one) continuing to post on the talk page in question. Maybe not making personal attacks, but it feels like block evasion. Asking here because you did the original block and it's honestly not clear whether this is something that needs to be reported/where that would even happen/whether a block expansion is even warranted. Can't wrap my head around rangeblocks, but when I tried to look at contributions over a larger range the edit history seemed to line up. Paris1127 (talk) 01:02, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Want to be clear I'm not requesting that you expand the block, just asking what the protocol is here... Misplaced Pages policies can be positively oracular at times. Paris1127 (talk) 01:08, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
On inspection of their edits, the first edit from that range was probably the most telling. I guess they've learned from the first block to tone down the personal attacks, but not quite enough. Iv'e blocked the new range. I suspect they'll find another /64 range, though. Acroterion(talk)02:32, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the attention. A new block was more than I was expecting. If he does find a new /64 I'm not sure we can continue this game of Whac-A-Mole. Paris1127 (talk) 02:50, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi Acroterion. I know you keep an eye on Comicsgate, which is frequently targeted by irate editors. If you have some time, it would be appreciated if you could keep an admin eye on Ethan Van Sciver for a while, too; I anticipate some talkpage sealioning. Grandpallama (talk) 22:49, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Did you read the edit? It wasn't a question, it was a garbled test edit at best, and was not an edit request or a suggestion for article improvement. Acroterion(talk)00:41, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Yes. I just thought maybe the new IP doesn't know the rules yet. I put a welcome banner that has the rules and hopefully they will learn the ropes here. :) --David Tornheim (talk) 03:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
By all means. I interpreted it as a child who had a slightly garbled idea of what had happened who was trying out editing. We see that fairly often, though less than we used to, unfortunately. Acroterion(talk)03:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Persistent removal of well-sourced content - Canada convoy protest
Would it be possible to help? A convoy supporter is removing well-sourced content. It appears that the edits are politically motivated - they wish to remove any content that is critical of the convoy occupation (e.g. anything referring to the class action lawsuit). They are also adding inaccurate content. Thanks! Helikon (talk) 09:46, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Whatever the issue is, you have both wildly exceeded 3RR. I’ll look it over and figure out what to do, but reverting like that is never a good idea - it should be reported at AIV or AN3 before it ever goes that far. Acroterion(talk)12:08, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your help!
I'm not going to have the time to sort this out before I go to work, I'm going to leave a message at WP:ANI for other admins to look at. You should expect to be scolded for simply reverting instead of soliciting admin help from the beginning. I realize you didn't necessarily know that, but it leaves you open to sanctions too. Acroterion(talk)13:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Someone has protected the article. I contacted info-en@wikipedia.org to ask for help, but received a reply 9 hours later. Sorry, I didn't know who to contact - I haven't encountered these issues before. Helikon (talk) 17:08, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
I don't think anybody expects you to know, from limited experience. In general, editors are limited to three reverts, at most, for anything short of really obvious vandalism or defamation, which this was not. In general, if you encounter this kind of thing again, I would advise reporting it at WP:AIV for simple vandalism, or WP:ANI for more complicated issues, and resigning yourself to the understanding that the article may have the wrong version until it can be dealt with. For flat-out edit-warring, like you saw, WP:AN3, but it's best to go there without having done it yourself,and formatting it can be tricky. WP:RAA is a good resource. It can be hard to find help in the North American nighttime hours. Acroterion(talk)17:29, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, I appreciate the detailed info. I will definitely seek help if I spot any similar issues in the future. In this situation, it looks like a former protester/occupier is really keen to remove or counter any negative coverage. In response, we can talk about the use of reliable sources, and the importance of maintaining a balanced, neutral point of view.
On the contact page: it could be helpful to add some more details there.
"3. For vandalism, it is best just to fix it directly yourself; however, if you cannot fix it, you can email info-en-v@wikimedia.org and include the address or title of the article and a description of the vandalism."
I've never seen a mechanism via email, at least Iv'e never participated in such a mailing list. I'll figure out where such emails actually go, I'm not optimistic that it's very closely monitored I'd avoid email response and just contact somebody on-wiki. Nighttime requests would be very unlikely to get attention via email in any case. Acroterion(talk)00:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Lower protection of United Airlines Flight 93 to semi
Hello. Extended confirmed did make sense on the 20th anniversary, but it’s been 2 and a half years and the page is still extended. It could potentially be lowered to even pending changes or no protection, but extended confirmed is overkill as of now. CharlieEdited (talk) 16:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
I've removed protection entirely, as the specific disruption has been dealt with. There are a couple of LTAs that might cause trouble, but they can be dealt with by semi-protection if needed. Acroterion(talk)17:48, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
Hello Acroterion, I see that you've protected the violence against men article. I personally disagree with your move and request the move to be reversed, however I am happy to hear your thought process as I'm not up to code with page protection. You cite an IP persistently removing material without explanation. There was an explanation for the move on the talk page. This user has also only removed this content once before, which was a day ago so is that considered "persistent"? Further, this user has added well-sourced content, so I've assumed that the editor is acting in good faith. From what I see, it didn't need to be protected. —Panamitsu(talk)12:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
I take a less benign view. The IP appears to be trying to turn around the article's discussion on domestic partner violence, flipping the statements on women vs. men (i.e., persistently removing content not to their POV). They added a source that at least on its face appears to support their apparent POV, and then removed the reference that supported the original statement, with a talkpage comment that effectively stated that they just didn't like the reference. This particular statement has seen disruption in the past. The IP can clearly find the talkpage, and is welcome to discuss why they think such a significant reversal should be made, with a consensus of sources. Acroterion(talk)13:02, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
However, since I have commitments for the rest of the day and won't be available to respond, I've removed the semi-protection, since the IP appears to be able to present talkpage discussion. Please keep an eye on things, the article has been a battleground in the past for this very statement. Any admin is welcome to reinstate or modify if needed. Acroterion(talk)13:43, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
"1. An abusive, bitter verbal or written attack, criticism or denunciation. 2. A prolonged discourse; a long-winded speech." Acroterion(talk)03:28, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
I was trying to polish and refine the comments on the talk page for the Far Right, but you undid my revision. Why? Julkhamil (talk) 16:24, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello @Acroterion! There is an ongoing discussion in the Amhara people talk page. This discussion began after a disagreement on when the Christianization of Amhara began, with me believing it started in the 4th century during the reign of Emperor Ezana and the other user "Socialwave597" believing it happened "in the late Aksumite period, as hinted in the missionary activities of King Degna Djan." Throughout the discussion I gave a lot of reliable sources, however to no avail. He (I don't kow if it is on purpose or not) misinterprets them and/or gives some excuse not to accept them as valid. He also provided some sources, however when you look at them they don't state what he said, on the contrary, some even prove my point. I saw that It was a waste of time and asked for a third opinion. Thankfully it was answered and the Administrator gave his opinion, which seemed to me that he wasn't certain or just tried to be as neutral as possible. Me and Socialwave597 made our proposals and have yet to been answered, it's been more than 2 weeks. I have no idea whether Admins respond back when giving third opinions but we really need a concrete answer so we can reach a consensus as fast as possible. Would you be able, if possible of course, to check the situation and possibly resolve this? Please let me know if I need to contact someone else or do something as I really have no clue of what to do, I'm kind of new to Misplaced Pages and I am just trying to solve this issue. Thanks! Javext (talk) 22:55, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
On superficial reading, it looks like Ilywrch (who is not an administrator) did a very thorough review, more than I could do. But , at least while acting as an administrator, I can't arbitrate content, and I'm completely unfamiliar with the topic, so I would need to do a lot of homework to be of much use in any case. I would suggest WP:DR for a moderated discussion if you think the issues are intractable. Acroterion(talk)01:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
All right. I believed Llywrch was an administrator as it was stated in his profile page but in any case I'll see what I can do, thanks for the response. Javext (talk) 18:04, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
I think it's warranted. Good close to that discussion. I got caught up in an edit conflict with you, wrote: Quick response before I block you for personal attacks. Source1mag is a conspiracy theory site. Eg "Shocking Mini Hidden Camera Shows – Corporate, Big Pharma Plot to Fire Tucker Carlson" and "Bizarre Oddities: Oh My, Obama’s Brother Says Barack Sold His Soul to Satan To Join the Illuminati" The American Chronicle is no better.Doug Wellertalk12:16, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi Acroterion, it's been a while and I hope you are doing well. I decided a few days ago that I would see if I could make a low-key return to Misplaced Pages editing without too much anxiety, and the first thing I found was that Nsmutte had returned while I was gone... I came here to ask if you could help me with a renewed semi-protection of my user talk page, but I just noticed that you already did while I was typing the previous, so I'll change to a thank you! --bonadeacontributionstalk13:41, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
You are abusing your power to block, are not providing transparent justification for your editorial decisions, are asserting rules that are not present in Misplaced Pages policy pages, and are reverting edits citing principles that contradict Misplaced Pages policy pages.
I am contesting your conduct as an admin. You have threatened to block me 3 times, which I find to be an unacceptable way to wield your ability to ban users. If you ban me for contesting your conduct, I only take it as further evidence that you have been given too much power as an admin because you are apparently able to overrule anyone who questions your conduct.
I recently noticed that my Misplaced Pages user page, which was dedicated to well-known saints with followers worldwide, has been deleted. I'm writing to inquire about the reason behind this deletion. I've observed similar pages for saints from various countries, including the USA, China, Japan, and India. like similar content what my page was so if similar content with other page can work what is issue for my page..?
Given this precedent, I'm curious as to what specific issue led to the removal of my page.
Could you please provide me with more information regarding the deletion and any guidelines or policies I may have inadvertently violated? I'm eager to ensure that any necessary adjustments are made to comply with Misplaced Pages's standards.
As noted in my notice to you, userpages are not workspaces for drafts, or alternate hosts for articles. Additionally, the content included repeated links to what I take to be your personal website, yatharthgeeta.com. Misplaced Pages does not permit that kind of spamming. Please do not use Misplaced Pages as a free webhost. Acroterion(talk)15:59, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Ok… thanks for your kind reply
You mean if I do not use links of websites so I can Create a page for famous india saint..??
You could start at Draft:Adgadanand, and build an article there, using independent sources (not your website), and avoiding anything directly copy/pasted from anywhere, printed or on the Internet. Acroterion(talk)18:45, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
There is no actual way of knowing that the claims of the four men being the ‘ones who organised a revolt’ are true. The only evidence is from reports of what happened which have changed over time, and their accuracy has been questions. There is no way of knowing that the four men actually were the only four who decided initially. That is just what is reported through popular media and what was reported as being said in unrecorded telephone conversations. Tge use of names when referring to the 9/11 commission report is also wrong as the simply says ‘native English’ or ‘native Arabic’ speaker. The voice recordings have never been made public just a transcript, so any attributions to individuals is not confirmed. The definitive claims of ‘these four men did x’ or ‘x said this’ when not a recorded call in wikivoice is a misuse of wikivoice. PicturePerfect666 (talk) 16:00, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Your language implies far more doubt than actually exists. Reliable sources are reasonably concordant on these matters. There is room for modification, but I don't think the may-or-may-not tone is helpful. We follow the conclusions of reliable sources rather than introducing our own analysis of primary sources. Acroterion(talk)16:21, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
You are saying ‘primary’ sources here where in fact you are using secondary sources.
also you have omitted that I have pointed out inconsistencies from official reports, to the non-official media reports. Also the primary source of the voice recorder has not been released.
the claim of ‘implies far more doubt than actually exists’ is not true as doubt as to who did and said what does exist. There is no way to know who ‘we’ or ‘they’ are when this is reported as quotes in media sources. It is unlikely the passengers all formally introduced themselves to each other.
The issue here is with flight 93 a lot of what is reported in the media is written as being factual and accurate, when it is speculation and conclusion creation on behalf of those organisations who wrote and published those. There is no way of knowing who was and was not involved in the passenger revolt. There is no way of knowing fair was just these four men or others unnamed were involved. It has to be written media and popular narratives attribute the events to be that this is what occurred. The official 9/11 commission report is not definitive but somehow popular media is. Remember popular media uses licence to create a story to sell the medium it is being published in. Stating things as definitive because it is in sources usually considered reliable negates that the accounts are not verified as what happened. Reliable and verified sources must be used, but just reliable. PicturePerfect666 (talk) 16:37, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages uses "the media" for sources. If you have wording that you think more accurately reflects the 9/11 report and reliable sourcing, describe it on the relevant talkpages. Again, your wording is more vague than I think is warranted. I think there are better ways to approach the issue of what is knowable and unknowable than inserting a bunch of waffle. Acroterion(talk)16:40, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
I reject the phrase ‘a bunch of waffle’ it’s not in good faith. Also attributions to who has said an individual thing is common on Misplaced Pages. It is more than common to go ‘according to newspaper’ or ‘publication stated about subject’.
what is being missed here is assumption bias of this is what has been reported for a long time by lots so it’s correct. Which is a form of bias to avoid. Lots of people saying something over a long period is not verifiability in and of itself. PicturePerfect666 (talk) 17:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Please be careful with the "not in good faith" accusations - I am responding to you in good faith.
Attributions are typically used when there are other widely discussed views. Take it up on the article talkpage - the onus is on you to find consensus for your changes. At the very least, they're awkwardly phrased and convey waffling rather than attribution. Acroterion(talk)17:22, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
I want to add my complete support for Acroterion's comments above. To repeat, the onus is on you to find consensus for your proposed changes. You do appear to waffle and find objections to other Misplaced Pages pages. David J Johnson (talk) 17:30, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
I saw your message to 49.185.208.16. (Thanks for the backup, btw. It's good to know that someone else found that edit sketchy) Do you know if there's a discussion/policy that specifically addresses the issue of "Jew-tagging"? Or is it something that is enveloped by wp:rs and wp:undue? Joyous!Noise!00:10, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
It comes up at ANI from time to time, and it's condemned each time. In the MoS it's specifically deprecated - see MOS:ETHNICITY. We get two kinds of editors that do that - proud promoters of Jewish accomplishments, and bigots. Before edit filters prevented it, we'd get Triple parentheses instead. I'll look around for a discussion, I know one exists, and I've probably quoted it at some point. Acroterion(talk)00:43, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
In this edit you said that consensus was to refer to ships without gender. I tried to find the consensus myself but failed to do so. Is it possible that you can share with me the link to the consensus? Thanks. —Panamitsu(talk)00:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
I've just noticed someone mentioning MOS:SHIP which says that either feminine or neutral gender pronouns may be used with ships. Sorry for the mass of messages! —Panamitsu(talk)00:24, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
<ec>Strictly speaking, consensus is not to change from one to another per MOS:SHIP, so I misspoke somewhat in the edit summary. It's sort of like sticking to one language variant once it's established. Personally, I think it's kind of anachronistic to use gendered language for ships.Acroterion(talk)00:25, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, there appears to have been a group of accounts doing the same things there. I’m still looking at some earlier edits to see if they’re worth reveling. Acroterion(talk)11:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Fracture Critical Bridge
I read your article.....and while I appreciate you asking me, I am not sure how much help I can be with it. (Although if you have specific questions from specific references, I might be able to help.) First off, I am not a bridge guy (I do mainly industrial buildings). AASHTO is kind of a world unto itself. Bridge design is a specialty area in structural (kind of like precast/prestressed). We use to gripe about the fact the SE exam was 20% bridge questions.....and we (i.e. building guys) were clueless. (I had to get AASTO's 16th/17th ed. and try to pick off the easy questions.....but I digress.)
All that being said, here is a good thread (with some references) on this topic on Eng-tips.com: . Like some of the posters said: we tend to think more in terms of "redundancy" than "Fracture Critical". I am not sure if I've even heard that term before.Rja13ww33 (talk) 20:45, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Well, I'm an architect, so I'm worse off than you - my competency is in building structures, and as you observe, we generally think in terms of redundancy - there are few non-redundant tension-loaded elements in a building. Thanks for the clue, I'm going to try to stick to generalities and avoid getting down into the engineering weeds, and hope somebody in the AASHTO world looks at it. Acroterion(talk)20:49, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
I came across another paper on this . I am kind of fascinated by the history of this.....mainly because I haven't heard of it. It appears this has been a focus in more recent decades. (After most of the references I am familiar with were written.) Of course, fatigue checks have always been a part of AASHTO.....but I didn't know this was part of their intent (i.e. a overall failure of the whole system).Rja13ww33 (talk) 21:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Assume good faith
On 29 March 2024 you stated I don't see this as a matter for arbitration, this looks like extended forum-shopping. The Arbitration Committee is part of the dispute resolution process. I had legitimate reasons why I went to the ArbCom, which I will explain in the case if my request for extension is approved. You may even think I may have used a mistaken venue. But you stating that it looks like it is forum-shopping is an ill-considered accusation of impropriety and is not assuming good faith. You are an administrator, please follow Misplaced Pages guidance. The Assume Good Faith guideline clearly states,
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This is directly addressed in what I posted above. I am not seeking to be "immunized from criticism". But if you fail to understand the difference between constructive criticism and unfounded accusations and not assuming good faith, then I do criticize you. In fact, my track record can show that I do seek objective feedback for my actions out of my own volition. And I do accept and recognize objective criticism and even when I make mistakes. But I don't like when people make unfounded and false accusations or rumours against me, much more administrators, who should know better. Thanks. Thinker78(talk)22:22, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
I think you're acting in good faith. That doesn't mean that everybody is compelled to agree with you, or never to criticize you. The tendency to filibuster the slightest criticism is another characteristic that I'm seeing on this page. Acroterion(talk)23:07, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Well, you got to within 400 miles or so the cities began with B and the states with M. However, I take your point, see my discussion on the talkpage about a pedantic insistence that the bridge ran from Dundalk to Baltimore, which may make sense in a legal sense, but is otherwise nonsensical, and I did say "outside Baltimore" or "to the east of Baltimore" would be fine. Acroterion(talk)10:01, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
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This is not a hoax this is culturally significant local legend back by reputable news source. It also helps to further display the cultural impact the Chupacabra cryptid legend has stretched to other area of the world outside of mexico. Dancmaster (talk) 17:12, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Then I'm sure that you can provide several references in reliable sources that actually describe the alleged appearance in Huntingdon Valley. The reference you used made no such mention. Acroterion(talk)19:37, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
...a couple times for "Jew tagging" and in general bad editing practices has picked up where they left off after the latest 3-month block expired: 2601:883:C201:8590:0:0:0:0/64 A good number of their recent edits involve some form of apparent anti-Jewish animus (e.g. ) or whitewash well-known antisemitic conspiracy theorists (e.g. ), while others have simply been reverted for being unsourced or undue. As the most recent blocking admin, I thought I'd bring this to you first rather than give this person a platform at ANI. Cheers, Generalrelative (talk) 01:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
If this was their first rodeo I’d warn or give them more rope, but they seem to be trying to skirt on just the edge of what they were doing before. 1 year this time. Acroterion(talk)02:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
VisualDiff crashes on pages with complex/manual HTML changes
Can you please restore my user page until after phabricator.wikimedia.org/T363024 is resolved? The example links for reproducing the bug are no longer working. Otherwise, could you please recommend where/how I might post the exact same history so there's a working example the MediaWiki/Wikipedia devs can reference? Thank you! RDuckDev (talk) 02:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
What on earth does a copied course syllabus have to do with that? User pages aren’t hosts for copyright violations or HTML debugging or whatever you’re trying to do. Acroterion(talk)03:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
It's the delta (change) between the revisions that's relevant to the bug report. Wikimedia asks for "clear how to reproduce the situation" (How_to_report_a_bug). Unfortunately, I only know the contents that trigger the bug in Parsoid and/or the VisualEditor/VisualDiff, not the root cause that I would need for crafting an example from scratch. There-in, the relevance is to provide Misplaced Pages's software developers with a working example of the bug to help make visual diffing work more reliably for us all!
All that in mind, I understand that user pages aren't the intended place for providing Misplaced Pages's developers with such an example for debugging the underlying MediaWiki software, my apologies for that oversight. Could you recommend where I should post a working example (solely for the lifetime of the bug report)? Please disregard. I've attached the information directly to the bug report. Thanks, again, for the guidance. RDuckDev (talk) 04:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Well, yes, that's what you would do. Putting a course syllabus, code source or not, in Misplaced Pages itself is a copyright violation from what I saw, and Misplaced Pages itself isn't a Mediawiki or coding forum. You might want to try the Mediawiki wiki for that sort of thing: . Acroterion(talk)
Pouvez fermer mon compte Sur le Wikipédia de langue anglaise
Monsieur le ministre@heures, je ne veux pas vous faire perdre votre temps comme vous me le dites sur ma page de discussion. Je ne veux pas perdre mon temps. Vous pouvez fermer mon compte sur le Wikipédia de langue anglaise. Cordialement Laurange Jolicœur Héron du fleuve (talk) 20:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Well ... damned if I know, to be honest. I'm not sure if the autoblock would apply only to the partial block topic, I hadn't considered that. I would think so, but it's outside my experience/understanding. Acroterion(talk)21:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Talkpages are for specific, sourced, actionable suggestions for article improvement. They're not fora for the opinions of individual editors or for general discussion. Acroterion(talk)20:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
In 1968 in Orangeburg, law enforcement officers shot thirty African American students, killing three. These students from Claflin College and South Carolina State College had been protesting a segregated bowling alley. Two year later, in Lamar, two hundred white men armed with ax handles, chains, and stones stormed three school buses transporting African American students to the high school. Topsecretsquirrel (talk) 20:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes, it was a terrible time and place. But this encyclopedia's article talkpages are for suggestions on article improvement, not for general observations on how awful things were. Misplaced Pages is not an Internet forum. Acroterion(talk)21:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Not a forum here either, please read Orangeburg Massacre, which has lots of sources
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To Acroterion (04/15/2024 PST Northern California),
How do I say this "Wiki" Proper? I will do my best. But first I would like you to know a little something about me. I am a "FACT" checker from day one. My Grandmother imbedded in my little pea sized brain the following quote:
"Believe NOTHING of what you HEAR and ONLY HALF of what you SEE".
Let me start with 2 questions for you.
Q1). BEFORE Misplaced Pages, where did YOU get your "FACTS"? (Please answer below)
A1).
Q2). My last reply to you (Orangeburg 1968), is most definitely a "FACT" but not from "WIKI". It is straight out of The Smithsonian Magazine, and it is only ONE paragraph of "The Orangeburg Massacre" in 1968.
A2). You don't have to answer this question. You can try, but....
Moving FORWARD...
It is only ONE of the many "FACT CHECKS" I do when someone decides to, ohhh, "Underestimate Me". So, for you, I have attached a link of "The Smithsonian Magazine" article (Note that they do NOT have {#} please) as, quite frankly, I do not have the time to give all my FACT resources to WIKI.
Lastly (I really hope you read this article), I NEVER come to Misplaced Pages for FACTS. I saw a "Documentary" about it on a "True Crime" (I am a True Crime buff) channel I "TRUST" and when I typed it into my browser (NOT GOOGLE) the "Wiki" page was the 1st to POP up (I bet you all pay billions for that spot) and I foolishly clicked on it (Because I know UNEQIVICALLY better than to trust this info). I read what "Wiki" had to "SAY" about "George Stinney" (the youngest EVER to be EXECUTED), saw hundreds of your blue {#}'s which I know UNEQUIVICALLY that they mean it was either "Edited for WRONG FACTS" or "Misleading", "Sorry, wrong, here's an update", "Sorry you were fooled by a so-called Historian", blah, blah de, blah ditty blah.. noticed the "TALK" tab and like a dumbass, signed up so I could write what I did the first time. Which, by the way, is so very true and I saw many others doing the exact same thing.
In summary, Misplaced Pages is commonly referred to and known as (and ALWAYS has been from day ONE) "Wiki-Rumor-Has-It but we'll fix it with blue {#} if you call us out on something".
My knowledge comes from a lot of research, fact checking and being or living someplace where I SEE, HEAR, and WITNESS the TRUE goings-on of what I UNEQUIVOCALLY KNOW as a FACT still happen to this very day! And I am NOT afraid to say it directly to anyone's face who attempts to "call me out" on a fact that I UNEQUIVOCALLY KNOW, LIVE and BREATH due to incompetent hacks who crossed my path of life.
And finally, in the "Southern Schools" students are "NOT ALLOWED" to use Misplaced Pages for "ANY and ALL assignments or you will fail with a big fat F and have to do it all over again". That is a TRUE FACT that I know UNEQUIVOCALLY. And if you do not believe me? Please allow me to introduce my "Genius" son.
I will now leave you to spew more "wiki" and I will kindly unsubscribe to "TALK". Just for YOU :).
Here is "The Smithsonian Magazine" link. Enjoy and it has been my pleasure to tell you what IS.
it's preferable to find sources instead of summarily removing it, unless it's agreed to be dubious or unsourced and tagged as such for a long, long time. Acroterion(talk)23:34, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
I don't know what counts as exciting, Drmies, but you may want to have a look for yourself. My response was "meh..." Spicy (talk) 16:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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It is not my fault there is no article about the book yet. That is why i linked to the author's article where the book is mentioned
There are also plenty completely unlinked cases on the article so i don't get why you're singling this one out specificially? 213.134.244.103 (talk) 19:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
There really ought to be an article on the book first, and there really ought to be sources for the others, and for your addition. I've left it there though. Acroterion(talk)19:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Let me get myself clear. RossoSPC's sandbox is a sandbox. Not an article, a sandbox. He's not making that a real article. Yes it is a hoax, but it's a sandbox, not an article. I do sound uneducated but I'm still somewhat confused that you deleted a sandbox
Hoaxes aren't permitted anywhere on Misplaced Pages. See WP:HOAX and WP:CSD, G3, which applies everywhere, not to mention that Misplaced Pages isn't a free webhost for fiction. Acroterion(talk)02:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Which is perfectly fine, I understand your motivations for creating it, I've done things like that too (long ago, before the Internet). Acroterion(talk)02:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
And people who tell me I'm doing something wrong have to be punished for being meanies. I think they're a teenager based on the edit to Bearcat's userpage and the edits to their own userpage that had to be suppressed for TMI, so it all goes together. I think they're not yet living in the Real World and are finding out what adults expect of other adults the hard way. Acroterion(talk)14:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
I think so, it makes criminal allegations and, while that doesn't appear to be the primary intent, includes a promotional link. Acroterion(talk)14:00, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
200.88.232.145
How do you know they're using a proxy? Or, is it just an assumption because that second Talk:AOC comment made it clear it was LTA? – Muboshgu (talk) 22:13, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
The IP shows as previously blocked as a proxy. My assumption of course is that the previous block was correctly attributed. Acroterion(talk)22:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Well this is unpleasant. Maybe that /24 needs to be shut down. I think it's highly unlikely that person is in the Dominican Republic, but whether or not he is I think that range can get a longer block. Expanding to a /22 shows edits that clearly originate in .do. Antandrus(talk)22:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
No, when I went to block the IP for awfulness, the Twinkle block window told me that the IP had been previously blocked twice by ST47ProxyBot,which also shows in the block log for that IP. Acroterion(talk)23:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
PicturePerfect666
I’d take a look at the user’s talk page history, at least, before continuing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Ironically, I warned all involved users in a discussion taken there that accelerating rather than trying to communicate leads to things getting heated and makes it worse - but they called the whole section ridiculous and removed it without, per their edit reason, reading any of it. I wanted to try AGF asa far as possible, but if that behaviour has got to the point of a temp block, the message isn’t getting through. I also don’t know how old the account is, but the aggressive weaponising of irrelevant policies rings a bell to me. Kingsif (talk) 09:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
That kind of conduct is something I see on a practically weekly basis all over the 'pedia, and it's not a subject area where I have an extensive knowledge of the perennial problems, but I'll take a look around. At the moment I'm trying to remind a bunch of people to stay out of trouble. Acroterion(talk)13:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
I'm not going to comment on the article talk page itself because of my previous warning about the contentious topic marker, but I'm pretty sure PicturePerfect666 has just created a sock to continue their edit war. See the "Revert needed" section of Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2024. The Satanator, signs up at 01:42, posts that topic at 01:47 with knowledge and opinion of the editwar, and then immediately retires the entire account (a process new users aren't normally aware of) at 01:48. Big WP:QUACK to me. BugGhost🎤07:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Just a simple question: does the 1RR on the article apply only to content that relates to the Israel-Palestine conflict or to all content? Traumnovelle (talk) 12:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
I added CORRECT info to the ``North Korea and weapons of mass destruction`` page which YOU have reverted, I have intelligence about this subject, b/c my Cousins in laws cousin is part of a mission discovering the EDP445 missile, thanks! -UI Uyiyughiuhiu (talk) 02:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Arbitration request opened
Hi Acroterion - just wanted to let you know that has opened an arbitration request about ARBECR - just thought you would like to know, seeing as we discussed it briefly the other day, and the arbitration request case relates to the same group of users, so you might have specific insight into the topic. Only posting in case you didn't see it and would like to make any statements - feel free to completely ignore this
Here you reverted a junky comment on my talk page. It would be good if you'd at least use an edit summary to say why when doing such things. Dicklyon (talk) 18:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Given this latest bit of lunacy, including the continual use of a variation of "retard", and some weird kind of self-promotion, maybe it's time to shut that guy down. ←Baseball Bugscarrots→ 22:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Um, yeah. I'm thinking of founding a think tank too. Its first position paper will examine "Gelato vs sorbetto: which is more satisfactory after dinner?" Research is warranted. Acroterion(talk)22:40, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Yummy stuff. :) Meanwhile, I advised him that this is a privately owned website and that his threats are meaningless here. I'm just wondering if he's going to yap his way into making a full-blown legal threat. ←Baseball Bugscarrots→ 00:45, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, I was a little surprised that they're taking a leap off the high board, their editing history doesn't give any hint that I saw to lead to this Double Top Secret special security police business. Acroterion(talk)01:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Very good. It was actually getting kind of comical. I've been here a number of years, and have been accused of various things, but I think this was the first time alleging I was a national security threat! In any case, the California-based IP has said enough by now that any recurrence of this rhetoric under another ID should be easy to recognize. ←Baseball Bugscarrots→ 02:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
ad you have helped me in he past. My name is Einar, on wikipedia I am carptrash and today I was blocked from editing on wikipedia. When I tried to report it through the suggested channel I was informed that there was o block, but there was one everywhere else. I am now at a friend's house, where I am not blocked. How can I get unblocked at home? Thanks, Carptrash (talk) 05:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Carptrash, from a CU perspective I'm not seeing any blocks that should be affecting you. Were you logged in to your account when trying to edit? Most IP blocks will not affect registered accounts. Spicy (talk) 12:47, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
If you are unable to edit while logged into your account, please send me an email with the message you get while trying to edit, including the IP, and I'll look into it. Spicy (talk) 15:58, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks all, I have been unable to log into my account for perhaps a month but was still able to edit as a number, but no more. But I can at a friend's house. Carptrash (talk) 23:34, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
I will try and do that, the problem is that all that sort of information is on my computer at m house but I can't edit there. I need to email it over here. Maybe I'll try and do that now. It just involves some driving around. Carptrash (talk) 23:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Reply For My Page That Has Been Deleted
why you deleted my artist about page? that was for my google page with all my social network, when you type slainix on google there's a page that show with social network etc, i don't understand why it got deleted, it's not to promote myself i do that, it's for people who don't know me yet this p*ss me off. Slainix (talk) 10:00, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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Hello - you hid a revision on my talk page () as grossly insulting or degrading. I do not find this edit insulting or degrading and did not ask for it to be hidden; can you please un-hide the edit? Thank you Chubbles (talk) 19:56, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
We were more concerned about potential outing, not that I believed that any of it was real, but we wanted to err on the side of safety. As long as there are no concerns on your part, I will un revdel it. The "grossly insulting or degrading" was more a term of art for the revdel. Acroterion(talk)20:48, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Oh, no, from the snippet that I was able to read, there is no danger of real information being divulged in that edit. Chubbles (talk) 06:40, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
I can, but given a history of attempts to move titles, I am reluctant to do so. What do you think would need to be done with the redirect if it was unprotected? Acroterion(talk)18:45, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Wait a moment! I mentioned extended-confirmed action for move-rights, not autoconfirmed access! Aside from that, I am alright with your changes to edit-rights.197.2.92.56 (talk) 20:43, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
This time, I am the one who is uncomfortable. You mentioned that there are attempts to move titles, though not sure if you're typing about the target page or redirect, but that case was unfortunately true with gas chamber five years ago which eventually got admin-move-protected. Furthermore, with the ongoing calamity in mid-east, I fear that both the target page and the redirect would experience a move-war given that both of their current move-protections are non-extended. Are you still confident about half of your decision?197.2.92.56 (talk) 21:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes. There are always possibilities, but we can bump it up if needed. The general guidance for ECP is to not make it perpetual except in unusual circumstances, and I think most of the potential move warriors have gone on to hotter topics for the time being. Acroterion(talk)21:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Thanks for your swift suppression and block of that IP user, and for keeping Misplaced Pages a safe place! OnlyNano22:04, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Thank you. Ha, this reminds me that I have official FBI victim status--hasn't done a lot of good, of course. Comments by colleagues like you do help, and I appreciate it.
@Drmies: It's special, isn't it, having that status? We should form a club. People who never realized they'd be acknowledged as "victims" by the FBI for their participation in, and administration of, Misplaced Pages. Who knew?
Hi, I'm Drmies, and because I do things on a website people email my bosses and tell lies about me, threaten to kill me, and threaten rape and murder on my family members. My case against one of these abusers (just one) went pretty far, all the way to the California State AG, apparently, and then--well I don't know what happened then. It's been quiet for a few years. What I'd love to see is the WMF taking these concerns seriously, and pressure law enforcement and start civil procedures. The real kicker? As a boy I have it relatively easy compared to our female colleagues. Drmies (talk) 20:43, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Hey, do you reckon the page should just be semi-protected indefinitely? I don't think the issues are going to go away. We aren't going cover (what are typically) symptoms of psychotic disorders in an in-universe way, so I think our coverage of the topic is always going to be upsetting to its proponents. Endwise (talk) 04:27, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Probably. I won’t do it tonight, I’m about to signed, especially since it would turn into an argument about involvement, but feel free to ask at RFPP. Acroterion(talk)04:50, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
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On the Tupac Shakur page on the lead where it says "african Americans" can you put the word "other" in front of African Americans since Tupac was also black. Action heroes are real keeps removing it and vandalizing the page. Thanks HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 15:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
so if ActionHerosAreReal says in his edit summaries "this is original research", even though he's removing multiple sentences in this Tupac article that is sourced, and he says "we agreed with my edit on the talk page" "see talk page" even though everyone disagreed with his edits even administrators and he's still warring with people, that's not vandalism? Ok it's not, since I didn't Read the rules about vandalism, but I'm pretty sure it breaks another rule. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 19:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
I think you should go back and review at least some of those based on their recent editing history and consider self-reverting. While it might be correct for not all of those to have the tag, to have removed all of them includes cutting out the kidneys with the cancer. Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign just as one example where this absolutely is being affected by the latest shooting and we should at minimum leave the tag in place for days, if not weeks. This was a world changing event. Iljhgtn (talk) 02:52, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
I left a couple when I reviewed. No, your spammed templates were unnecessary and disruptive. They can be placed if needed by someone, but not the way you were doing it. No, it's not a "world-changing event," it's the kind of awful crap we have to deal with without overdramatizing. Acroterion(talk)02:55, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
No seriously, who asked you?
Hey, so you left a response to something I said and when I said; "Who asked you?" You felt the need to say that just because you were an administrator nobody needed to ask you. Can you tell me why you feel like nobody should need to ask you even though you're the equivalent of a glorified hall monitor? Aj631314 (talk) 03:43, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Can you explain why you think aggressive comments like this help us write an encyclopedia? If you just want to treat people badly, find someplace else to do that. I see that another janitor (we like that term better) has blocked you. Acroterion(talk)04:27, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
After the second trolling/forum post at Talk:Antifa I had decided to block if they did it again. I didn't see your warning at their talkpage until after I'd blocked ,and considered unblocking and leaving your note there, but decided to leave it, since I was more concerned with the trolling nature of the comment than with the issue you'd warned them for. I'm OK with unblocking and giving them a little more rope.Acroterion(talk)15:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
No need to unblock, I was just curious, for my own benefit, whether you disagreed with my handling of the issue or if you just didn't see it. Either approach is fine. – bradv15:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
We were just looking at two different aspects of their conduct. Recent events are likely to encourage this kind of soapboxing, and while we don't need to get to Barney Fife levels of bud-nipping, I think it'll be another thing we have to contend with. Acroterion(talk)15:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Requesting early admin attention at concerning edit
Came across this edit on a user talk page requesting sort of offline information prima facie might sound innocuous but to read with their user page sentence not a very good vibe and I suggest some early admin look into the issue. Bookku (talk) 17:50, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Also posted about this on Jpgordon's user talk but could you also please take a look at
a legal threat here? I reverted the post but thought an admin who had edited the article or posted on the article talk should probably check it out. I also notified Jpgordon since they had edited the article/article talk as well. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 17:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for dealing with the WP:ANEW report regarding this editor. Could you follow up with them regarding WP:AGF once more? Their first edit after your warning about personal attacks was to double down on this notion that I somehow have an ulterior motive to supress the truth here. Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 03:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Nevermind, you seem to have already done so. Sir Sputnik (talk) 03:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
FYI they are now trying to circumvent their partial block by canvassing others to change the article back to their preferred version . I've just noticed this after reverting some interesting SYNTH and OR of theirs on a different article. Black Kite (talk)05:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Redux
They've returned from their week block by claiming that Marca (newspaper) is a "fake news" website (it's Spain's foremost sports newspaper) and reverting more material to their preferred POV. I've final warned them, but I think we've run out of patience here - what do you think? Black Kite (talk)15:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
I was down to my last nerve with them anyway, so it would have taken a lot less than that torching of any doubt to indef them. Acroterion(talk)15:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
While you deleted my comments on that talk page instead of providing any reply: Maybe you might answer here on your own page? Thank you and greetings from France's Atlantic coast. We do not have mountains here where you could remove any tops so all we are afraid of is that heaven might fall on our heads. Gwele kloz (talk) 21:26, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Yes and no: "became the stuff of legend" is hardly appropriate, but yes, you added a ref. You might want to reconsider that line. Acroterion(talk)23:06, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
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I see you rev-del-ed (is that a verb?) one revision in the page history for Molly White today, but there may be one other, by the same user, also earlier today. Same reason (RD3). The revisions are five minutes apart. Thanks for looking into it. Mark in wiki (talk) 13:46, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
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Storrs-Mansfield
I *think* I'm responsible for the initial discovery of the issue. I started reverting the Storrs-Mansfield after he had been doing it for a while and the wall of text summaries for the reverts was what brought in even more users to the issue. Yeah, sometimes the users just don't realize that the mops can become lightsabers. I've got a few of the Storrs -> Storrs-Mansfield pages on my watchlist, and I'm trying to keep a count of how many remain as I do cleanup. If I see any changes from Storrs to Storrs-Mansfield, which course of action is preferred, commenting here to you as the blocking Admin or putting a comment at WP:ANI? Naraht (talk) 15:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
You're not to blame for this person's obsessive pedantry. I don't think they're compatible with WP; we deal with lots of ambiguity and either-or issues, and this kind of absolutism isn't productive. Acroterion(talk)16:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
I don't think I am, though this is probably the first time (and I have more than 100,000 edits) that I have seen someone immolate is such a pendantic way. So *when* he shows back up, I'm not sure where to report it...Naraht (talk) 17:53, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
Just tell me, or Cfred. I've seen people like this before, who are willing to die on a hill to prove that "The Beatles" is better than "the Beatles," for instance. Some people can't coexist with ambiguity or contradiction. Acroterion(talk)17:56, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
Done undoing. In mainspace, only The Daily Campus, the UConn Student newspaper still has the string Storrs-Mansfield. At least two other experienced editors left it in the address for the main office for the newspaper while reverting other changes. Inside a street address, I don't think common name applies, so I think we are good, I'll do a check in a few days after his block expires.Naraht (talk) 03:47, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Immolation
Well, I think we've seen it. At this point *any* change to Storrs-Mansfield should end up at WP:ANI or WP:SOCK...Naraht (talk) 14:25, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
Fun fact, I just ran into an account from another LTA that had used the same proxy as this one. I've never seen that before. Drmies (talk) 22:08, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Meh, I'm immune to that kind of puerile crap by now, but I've gotten rid of the one that got him blocked - I'd meant to circle back but was probably distracted by my family acting like normal people, instead of this obnoxious child. Simple vulgarity (without any particular non-bot target) isn't eligible for revdel. Is there another specific comment made about another editor somewhere? Acroterion(talk)19:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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As with the Chad McQueen article, they've been accusing us of 'advertising' for adding information that's relevant, and it looks like they are deliberately shifting around IPs.Yogue (talk) 02:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi there, I saw you were on the list of active admins and I think we've edited in some of the same spaces before. I just wanted to keep admin aware that the GSL talk page is especially active these days which is of course partially my fault (involved). Just giving a heads up that there is current discussion on the talk page and at NPOVN.
OK, but unless there's clear-cut misbehavior administrators won't intervene in a discussion one way or another, at least not in an administrative capacity. Acroterion(talk)02:48, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
I took a quick look at the talkpage and while it's a voluminous, unresolved discussion, it looked like everybody's being reasonably respectful, or at least are not actively fighting. In any case, it's getting late and I'm wrapping things up for the day. Acroterion(talk)03:22, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi Acroterion. You recently blocked two accounts (Cavil5715 and Adelewhite125) for socking, and I bet that Krisheven425 is another sock in the same drawer. Same type of posting on their user talk page, about finding web development companies. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:25, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Most current airliner pages are on my watchlist because they're favored by two or three LTAs, so it was pretty clear somebody was acting up. Glad I was able to cut that short. Acroterion(talk)12:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi Acroterion. Would you mind restoring the visibility of the reverted edits made at this page? I've previously discussed with two other admins about the issue of hiding death-related revisions from this talkpage, which can be seen here. Thanks, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk·contribs·email) 21:54, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
I disagree with Primefac's view that "we get death notices all the time, they're easily checked and not that serious of a BLP vio." In my view, maliciously stating that an elderly (or any) person is dead is as serious as it gets, and we have enough ghoulish fascination with being first to report someone's death that we don't need to encourage the trolls. And this is an LTA, so "purely disruptive" comes into play, with WP:DENY. Primefac's entitled to his opinion, but I see no value in unhiding the abuse. That said, if someone else thinks it's fine, they are free to do it. Acroterion(talk)23:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
RD is somewhat subjective. I have stated my opinion on the matter, but I don't necessarily feel strongly enough to push the issue or reverse the RD. Feel free to take it up at a more centralised noticeboard if you feel that these sorts of things should be more standardised. Primefac (talk) 11:12, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
I agree, the boundaries aren't clear. I tend to resist defining things rigidly, since rigid boundaries can be tested or exploited, and we have as much instruction creep as anybody can stand already. I am not wholly in disagreement about death vandalism; checking really famous people is trivially easy. It's the less obvious or easy-to-check cases that are more pernicious. Acroterion(talk)13:37, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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It certainly earns a block for racist vandalism. It's not awful enough for revdel though, it can remain as a memorial to that editor's behavior. Acroterion(talk)19:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
There is no unanimous opinion on the threshold for revdel, which is probably a good thing, since over-specificity is a temptation for the malicious to see what they can get away with. Another admin may disagree, and there are things that I revdel that other admins might not. The most important thing is that the vandal is blocked. Acroterion(talk)19:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
I think I've come across an LTA
But I can't quite place where it was or the possible socking... I seem to remember something about an obsession with adding numbers to articles, with adding ages at the time of death to articles, numbering people's stations in life in articles (including infoboxes for First Ladies of the US). Please see this edit history. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 15:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
I can't say I've seen that particular editing pattern, at least not that I remember.. I would think it should be easy to spot via a properly constituted query, which might give more clue. Acroterion(talk)15:52, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Lol you assume I can put together a properly constituted query? (not even sure what a query is, I just edit stuff around here...) I'll continue to poke around my old edits over the next few days, I know I've seen this editing pattern before... Somewhere. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 17:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
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Your account was just registered after the other account was blocked, you're demanding retribution against one of the editors involved in that discussion, and while not particularly kind, you're not being insulted. Acroterion(talk)01:28, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
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Because undiscussed pagemoves are disruptive. Articles should not be moved on a whim. New editors don't necessarily know that, so they are warned. The warning was given nine months ago, I assume you have a better understanding of move protocols now. Acroterion(talk)17:51, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
I wanted to know why you gave the level 2 warning instead of the level 1 warning (I've attached the level 1 warning below the level 2 warning so you know what I'm talking about):
I looked at your edits around that time and decided a slightly stronger wording was appropriate. It's a mild admonishment, not a stain on your Permanent Record. Do you really think it's a good use of your time to come back nine months later to wrangle about it? Acroterion(talk)23:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
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It's not a problem, administrators are here to help editors write the encyclopedia. I'll take a look at them and undelete if appropriate. Acroterion(talk)14:35, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi Acroterion. I saw you reblocked this IP, but I can't seem to find any more recent activity from them. Is there something that happened? Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 06:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Hey there Acroterion. I just came across an IP address that you previously blocked. I blocked them again for a period of three days (due to messing around with pages). They have been repeatedly warned in the past, and blocked twice. Was I correct to block someone after being blocked twice in the past and having repeated warnings, or should I have done a warning first? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
If they're doing the same sorts of things that got them blocked the first two times, we can assume they know better already and are just blowing us off. Technically, warnings aren't required, but AGF would demand it until we can safely discard that courtesy. Acroterion(talk)00:27, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi Acroterion, sorry to disturb, but the IP you blocked for edit warring at the Moorgate tube crash article has come off their block and jumped straight back into reverting again. They have, at least, commented on the talk page, but I’m not sure that anything said there is going to stop the disruption. Should I apply for temporary page protection to focus their efforts on the talk page alone? Thanks SchroCat (talk) 00:25, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
How about not lying about me, not trying to force jargon that nobody has used in decades into the article, not reverting just for the sake of reverting, and talking to me instead of childishly trying to get me blocked again. 81.111.22.107 (talk) 00:44, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Stalking too? I have not lied about you: you have come off a block for edit warring and carried in with the same disruptive behaviour. I have explained the rationale on the talk page as to why the current phrasing is better, and it has nothing to do with ‘reverting just for the sake of reverting’: that’s an untruthful claim right there. How about you use the article talk page to try and counter the explanation put forward, rather than just edit warring? SchroCat (talk) 00:57, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Many thanks to you both. If they return at a future point, hopefully they'll aim for the talk page first to discuss properly. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 11:20, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello Acroterion -- I won't revert but actually I disagree strongly with this tagging. Imo, single source is intended for articles where (1) the fact it pends off a single source is a significant problem (because the source is unreliable for some reason), or (2) the fact that the meat of an article is from one source is not obvious from the reference list (because there are a mass of trivial sources). In this case, the source appears reliable, independent and secondary.
It is my strong belief based on the behaviour of the sock Lamptonian, as well as the userboxes on the sock master, that the intent of almost all their edits was to discredit material about liberal/feminist/queer academics or similar, and I'm sad to see this goal achieved in this case. I'm busy right now, but I will try to look for another source when I have a moment; I assume reviews of the subject's work will be available. Did you search for one and fail to find it? If so you should state this explicitly. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 06:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Feel free to revert. I was trying to sample the good, bad and indifferernt edits Lamptonian made. That one falls into "indifferent." As I've said elsewhere, it will take months to properly search and improve the articles Lamptonian tagged or slashed. Acroterion(talk)14:00, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, no surprise. I was busy baking for friends who are coming for lunch, a much more rewarding exercise than trolling the noticeboards or dealing with them. Acroterion(talk)15:43, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Just brownies, nothing complicated, but the kitchen smells great now. We're all going out for lunch and will come back here for dessert. Acroterion(talk)16:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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No idea how to put this gently, but the ongoings under Heiar and Moccia were serious and are common knowledge in the I-25 corridor. Three players sexually assaulted three other players and two student workers, and a UNM player was killed by a NMSU player. "Hazing" doesn't describe what happened at all. 67.209.213.65 (talk) 16:43, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
The references don't support your assertions. If you think it ought to be included, find explicit reliable sources. "Common knowledge" isn't admissible here, and the biographies of living persons policy applies. Don't report rumors or unsubstantiated assertions of serious criminal conduct. Acroterion(talk)18:36, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but recent sources such as this and this are unambiguous, they use wordings like "sexual assault" and "sex abuse" for the happenings on the NMSU basketball team. KFIX and ESPN are mainstream news sources with no particular agenda. It's permitted to call a spade for what it is. 67.209.213.65 (talk) 20:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
To add to this: two of the men who were assaulted were paid 8 millions in restitution. If you can get that amount in a settlement you know the cSe had merit. 67.209.213.65 (talk) 20:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Then don't call it "rape." And we don't infer from sources that anything "has merit" in that manner from a civil proceeding, that doesn't establish criminal culpability, only that there was a settlement. Yes, bad things happened, but we can only report on what reliable sources explicitly state. Inference is of no use here; stick to the sources and don't embellish or interpret. Acroterion(talk)20:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
The report from NM DOJ does not mince words. The executive summary on pg 3 uses words like "sexualized hazing" and "sexual assault", and on page 10 the DOJ is explicit in stating that Heiar was terminated for cause shortly after the abuse was reported to police. That Moccia was terminated for cause is not disputed, that fact is widely reported in the news. "Scandal" is too mild a word for what went on at the institution.
As far as criminal proceedings go, two of the three suspects have pled guilty, and the third one is currently at trial and is looking at 5 years of prison. The complaint from the State is for "Criminal Sexual Penetration", "Criminal Sexual Conduct" and "Conspiracy to Commit Criminal Sexual Conduct", it's not great.
(Aside: US criminal law is a mess, many actions that ought to fall under criminal law are instead brought as civil actions, most infamously police misconduct. The public prosecution needs to stay in the good graces of the police, so the injured party brings a civil action and then settles before the case gets to a jury. At some point the "non-admission of liability" clause ends up being not really meaningful. Someone suffered injury, and they are awarded much money, and we can't call it for what it is. Suspicious people will say that was the intention all along.) 206.206.141.101 (talk) 19:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
We call it exactly what reliable sources say it is. The problem with the edits this weekend was with amplification beyond what the sources said. There is no bar to stating the issues (in accordance with the due emphasis guideline, and remembering the requirements of the biographies of living persons policy); we just need to stick to the references. All I want you to do is to stick to what reliable secondary sources say in accordance with policy, and we can talk about the problems with the program. We just have to do it with care and accuracy; this is the #7 website in the world, and we have a responsibility to get it right. No editorializing. Acroterion(talk)22:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
This user made one edit, the creation of a promotional userpage, and was reported to UAA. Seeing the report, I deleted the page, and made a choice as an administrator to warn rather than go for the no-warning block.I made this clear at UAA.
I'm curious as to why you thought it was appropriate to override my decision an hour later, when they had made no further edits? I believe my choice was within the bounds of administrative discretion and should not have been overridden without good reason. Beeblebrox00:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
We have different ideas of what constitutes a promotional-only account with username issues, I guess, it looked pretty clear-cut to me. I didn't think of it as overriding you, please don't take it that way, and honestly I didn't check to see who might have deleted the page; we shouldn't have to go walking on eggshells around certain administrators. We've all had occasions where we've taken a more gentle or lenient approach, or abstained entirely, and had another admin take a different action. This is the nature of our distributed administration of this website. I have a less optimistic idea of what demands a promotional account is likely to impose on our volunteers than you do, I guess.
However, I am happy to reverse the block, as always, if another admin disagrees. While you may not think so, my overall approach to spammish accounts is pretty close to yours, and I believe I've made that clear in the RFC. I have different reservations about promotional usernames than you do, and it bothers me that we tend to act more harshly on accounts that at least are being more honest with us (like this one) than somebody with a throwaway username that's doing the exact same thing. I don't have a wise solution, except that the editing interface for user page creation might offer better guidance that WP isn’t like Facebook, and if you’re looking to expand your social media presence, you’re in the wrong place. Acroterion(talk)02:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
To be clear, I don't think anyone need walk on eggshells around me, but I do feel that any admins decision to take a particular course of action shouldn't overriden without a compelling reason. I see blocks I wouldn't have made all the time, but I don't just go undoing them unless they are truly egregious.
I think the thought of some sort of caution or warning when creating a user page/sandbox is a good one, and not an idea I believe I've seen before. We clearly have an issue where lots of people every day think this is the place to come to "get the word out" and something like that could help curb it at least a little bit, although knowing how the software is we'd want to make sure it actually works on the mobile apps as well.
As I recall, the community has asked in the past for something similar when usernames are created, that being the obvious other facet of this issue, but I don't think we ever actually got it. Beeblebrox06:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
An absence of action isn't easily discernable here, and given the way the various queues and happenstance work it's not always the case that a deletion without a block indicates some kind of forbearance. However, I would have figured that out if I'd looked at the talkpage; most of the time it's just a speedy deletion flag, but sometimes not, as in this case. Keep in mind that those who patrol the edit filters look at the edit filter detail output, which is usually more diagnostic than what might have been successfully saved.
However, it was my impression that you were not particularly concerned with spam username/spam actions, but rather an apparently good-faith username with spammish content who might be brought around to being a contributor, and userspace deletions. There may be a unicorn out there who registers a promotional name and posts promotional content, who might be persuaded to be a contributor, but I haven't encountered one yet. I've nursed promotional editors along, and can't say that I've had any successes. I've had better luck with vandals, who aren't financially or ideologically committed to vandalism. We've got a recent serial sockpuppeteer who is somehow trying to edit on behalf of the UAE Federal Tax Authority, who is an example of the more extreme sort, who has rejected patient advice and who presumably has been commissioned to establish an FTA presence on all platforms no matter what.
Spambots are another matter, and we should show no mercy there. They're prohibited by the ToU, and should be treated as LTA block evaders. They're tailored to superficially look like good-faith accounts, and they've been running as long as I've been here. They're much less of a problem than they used to be.They're instantly recognizable once you've seen a few, and I always tag the deletions and blocks with custom summaries: "spambot."
As I've pointed out, my practice, and that of most admins, is to delete and warn for the promotional content without an accompanying promotional username, but the usernames that represent organizations pose a general username policy issue apart from promotion; it would be more of a question whether to softblock or hardblock in those cases. I would generally softblock if there was no accompanying promotion, or more likely just wait and see what they do (which is a standard answer at UAA), since a lot of those accounts have second thoughts and never edit. I'm not actually sure how the 499 edit filter interacts, I think it logs only and doesn't warn. There are a lot of false or ambiguous positives with 499 (as I said at the RFC, about half can be ignored), perhaps a more narrowly-tailored filter might target a smaller subset with a warning, but that's outside my skillset to construct or even propose in much detail. Perhaps 499 could be tailored for a fairly general reminder to not be promotional and to remind that WP isn't social media. I'd prefer proaction over reaction, which is the current state of affairs. Acroterion(talk)12:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I'll wait for Liz, but as usual, I have no problem with undeleting these drafts so you can work on them. Let me know if you don't hear from her; weather depending, I may be away for a while tomorrow for some minor eye surgery. Acroterion(talk)02:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
In general, pro forma racist vandalism isn't normally revdel'd, unless it concerns a specific individual or is particularly gross (i.e., "kill all ***). But they've earned themselves a week-long block and a place in my watchlist. Acroterion(talk)20:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
An elaboration - the "grossly-insulting" modifier is important, as opposed to the obnoxious-racist-jackass-who'd-better-watch-their-damn-mouth-if-they-don't-want-to-spend-a-week-at-the-dentist stuff. Acroterion(talk)20:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Okay, so I didn't make the request but I am a little confused. I was earlier told on a talk page to report an edit very similar to the one reported. Am I not supposed to request revdel these kind of stuff? Gaismagorm(talk)20:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Well, going by the way I read the policy, it didn't rise to the level of grossness usually revdel'd. We get a lot of dumb nasty vandalism, and we don't need to scrub the histories of all of it; revdel should be employed somewhat sparingly. We remove things that can bring harm or express a desire to harm, are copyright violations, insult or degrade specific living individuals, are the products of sustained disruption campaigns. or reveal the identities of people who wish to remain anonymous. For stupid schoolboy vandalism like this, it can stay there as a monument to their ignorance. Your request above was similar to this one.in its level of obnoxious rather than gross. Other admins may have a somewhat lower threshold for removal from the history, but it has never been meant for all vandalism. There does seem to have been a trend to apply it more generally to ethnic slurs like this one, but it's not uiniversal. Acroterion(talk)20:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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