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:{{ping|McDoobAU93}} the main issue with the previous photo was that it was being used under a fair use license to depict the "logo" of the Time Traveler ride, even though it apparently wasn't the logo. That fair use rationale therefore wasn't valid and the image should either have been freely published (if you feel that it's not depicting a copyrighted sculpture), or deleted. I wouldn't have thought that there's any issue with showing pictures of the rail track, so taking that out seems overkill, but I'm no expert on the matter. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 21:32, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
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Hey there, I think we both tried to do the same round-robin page move at the same time. See ]. Should I fix it, or will you? ] </span>]] 17:51, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
hello, saw you were the one that ] to Hughes Network Systems, but i dont see the page renamed/moved? Hughes Network Systems still redirects to Hughes Communications. am i missing something? ] (]) 14:00, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Melodies1917}} apologies for this. It seems that there was some clean-up to do, because the target article was merged into the source article in 2009 and needed to be kept for attribution reasons. And I must have then forgotten to actually go ahead and do it. I have now sorted this out by moving the old version to ], and completed the move as requested. Let me know if there any further issues. THanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 14:20, 1 May 2019 (UTC)


:tldr; the article now redirects to what was supposed to be the new title. The new title is a redirect to itself. So the article has been vaporized and we have two nonsensical redirects. Sorry for this mess. ] </span>]] 17:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
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::{{ping|Toadspike}} ooh good grief, that's a silly mix-up, apologies for my part in that - we crashed right into each other! I think it's because I was busy checking the target history while you were moving the page, then I ended up moving the redirect right over the top of the article. HOpefully all sorted now anyway. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 18:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you so much for cleaning up the mess! I knew my first round-robin move was gonna go wrong somehow... ] </span>]] 18:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Toadspike}} He he, not to worry. I didn't realise that was your first one! I'm sure they'll go smoothly in the future, you did the right process anyway. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 18:11, 17 November 2024 (UTC)


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Why are you moving pages back that I had moved as per ]? The lists of international trips by presidents I moved were all in line with naming convention. — ] (] • ]) 03:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
*{{flagicon|Scotland}} ] (1210), our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three DYKs. He also made good use of the bonus points available, more than doubling his score by choosing appropriate articles to work on.
:{{ping|Hemant Dabral}} what naming convention is that? The moves you had made did not look uncontroversial to me - particularly changing the commonly used term "state visit" to be "international trip" doesn't seem in line with our usual naming conventions. Please start a ] discussion if you wish to proceed with those moves. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 10:21, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
*{{flagicon|Wales}} ] (750), last year's runner up, with an FA, a GA, two FLs, and five DYKs.
::There are more articles titled "international trips", it has more search probability and to keep all lists in consistency this title should be used. — ] (] • ]) 11:53, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
*] {{u|Adam Cuerden}} (480), a WikiCup veteran, with 16 featured pictures, mostly restorations.
:::Hi {{ping|Hemant Dabral}} clearly we need to iron out the nomenclature here, but that should be done through an RM if you wish to pursue it. If some articles have a bad title the solution isn't to move even more of them to have a bad title. "International trips" doesn't sound like encyclopedic tone, and also would potentially include holidays and suchlike which I don't think is the intention. "International visits" or "state visits" would be preferable. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 12:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
*{{flagicon|Prussia}} ] (461), a seasoned competitor, with a FA, a GA and an ITN item.
::::It's not some articles that have the title "international trips", all of them are tilted that way except the one related to Nicola Sturgeon. And six others titled "state visit". There are about 100 articles titled "international presidential trips" and about 60 articles titled "international prime ministerial trips". Are we going to move all these back to "visits" or is it more practical to move these seven articles to "trips"? That's the reason I made the move, otherwise I wouldn't have done that. — ] (] • ]) 15:36, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Other notable performances were put in by {{flagicon|Chicago}} ] with six GAs, {{flagicon|USA}} ], {{flagicon|England}} ], and {{flagicon|Saskatchewan}} ], each with seven GARs, and {{flagicon|Denmark}} ] with a seven item GT.
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Hey, {{U|Amakuru}}. Do you think ] would be a good fit for ]? Seems like it covers every structure and has several mentions of the bilayer (ofc), liposomes, and of micelles. <span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:#fff;border:2px dashed#69c73e">] - ]</span> 16:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
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:Hi {{ping|Cowboygilbert}}... I'm actually slightly puzzled about this, because I literally started writing a POTD entry using that very article shortly before I filed the pic as unused, but then backed out because I thought the article ] was only covering one of the three things in the pic (since the bottom part of the diagram is explicitly labelled as "bilayer sheet". But you're absolutely right - it does cover the micelles and liposomes too, not sure how I missed that, and it's a GA too so a perfect choice for a POTD blurb. Feel free to revive it now if you like, otherwise I will do so in the next few days. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 16:39, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
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Hi Amakuru. I tried here--> . --- In answer to my inquiry on an admins' noticeboard I'm told to request so-called userification in my userspace of the "]" blp from you(?) Thanks--] (]) 02:16, 3 May 2019 (UTC)--] (]) 02:20, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
::to simplify cross-refernencing, my comment to {{U|Hodgdon&#39;s secret garden}}'s request to me was, "It is not realistic of you to expect any admin to do anything of the sort while an arb case on the use of admin tools in restoring the article is active. I followed up on a suggestion of yours about this before, and it did not go well. " ''']''' (]) 05:00, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
:::Amakuru, ] - Inasmuch as content formerly at ] namespace hasnt been subject of any AfD / DRV it's _this_ Im wishing ] thx--] (]) 21:34, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Hodgdon's secret garden}} Personally I might have been tempted to grant this request, especially as the other version of the draft is currently restored in draft space. Having the page in user space is a very different beast from having an actual article. But since {{u|DGG}} cautions against it, I will stay out of the matter for now. If someone else wants to userfy it I have no objection. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 07:59, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::Guess that leaves me at square one awaiting the review (arb) discussion ] mentioned to wrap up then. Thanks for your considered response.--] (]) 13:00, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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==DYK for King's Cross Thameslink railway station==
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Good one! - Thank you for fixing the sad quirky, among so many other fixes! --] (]) 12:06, 8 May 2019 (UTC) thank you! - greetings from a trip --] (]) 16:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Gerda Arendt}} thanks for your kind words. Glad to help where I can. And it's good to have a DYK, can't even remember the last one. I need to do more article writing, it's what we're all here for after all... &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 12:48, 8 May 2019 (UTC) :Thank you {{u|Gerda Arendt}}, I was also away over the weekend, nowhere very exciting though, just ] and walks in the surrounding countryside ] &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 17:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
:: You are welcome! - If you don't get to writing articles, you could still review one or two. I have several noms open for review, and some about people who "recently" died but it's no more recently. Look for "nom" on my user page. In some cases, a reviewer just doesn't like my approach to making a hook ... - I don't want to say just a quirky little bit about someone who just died. --] (]) 12:56, 8 May 2019 (UTC) :: Thanks for sharing! - I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang ] at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. --] (]) 20:11, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Gerda Arendt}} Oo I think I sang that song at one point in my youth. Very sorry to hear about the loss of your friend, may they rest in peace. I took part in a performance of Fauré's Requiem yesterday with my orchestra, alongside a local choir. Very lovely and moving music I sang tenor in it many years ago. Sadly my uncle is nearing the end of his life and we may sing some of that Requiem at his funeral. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 22:49, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
:::: Thank you. I sang alto in the Fauré years ago. Went out with my friend now widow and others, to the ] and food - a good time. --] (]) 22:56, 1 December 2024 (UTC)


== Białystok Municipal Stadium closure of RM ==
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Hi! For a possible move review, I want to ask about the closing of the RM on "]" (I have no experience with move reviews yet, so I started to write the same thing in the new RM on that page).
Sigh, I got wrong again, thanks. I've checked the rest of the month; there are no more redirects to a section. Per ], I'd prefer ]s, but I won't push it because the argument can be made that, in this case, the hovertext isn't confusing. - Dank (]) 20:06, 11 May 2019 (UTC)


I disagree with your claim that there is a consensus that is a commonly used name in English. Apart from the proposer, no one has claimed this – one supporter just said that is it more recognisable thant the current name, and one supporter argumented that English name is a standard for stadiums (which I refuted). No one has presented evidence for the statement that the suggested name is the most common or most understandable name. I suggested other names for the page that meet the supporter's request for the move, yet the page was moved to the name suggested by the original proposer. I think closing the discussion was premature and reasoning inaccurate.
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I don't know if a possible move review is necessary (the new RM could serve its purpose), but one of the discussants is asking for a speedy close and asks me to deal with it through move review. ] (]) 09:55, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
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:but his latest edit summar<s>y</s>ies prove<s>s</s> the adage true. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 16:41, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
::Yes ] I saw that. But anyway, hopefully the matter is over and no need to engage, just ignore it. Thanks for the barnstar by the way. Much appreciated. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 17:32, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
:::I am completely disengaged. Treating it like a fart on the elevator (lift); if you know what I mean. Hopefully he will fade away, like a bad distant memory. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 17:42, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
::::By the way, ] doesn't work for me. But <nowiki>]</nowiki> does. Cheers. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 17:48, 13 May 2019 (UTC)


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Hi, the new hook about Filipino Americans is written poorly and not piped well. I would suggest:
: ... that the earliest permanent ''']''' settled in Louisiana's ] country?
:Thanks, ] (]) 16:59, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
::{{ping|Yoninah}} Alright, it seemed OK to me, but I've amended to your suggestiled version anyway. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 17:20, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
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== Request for final decision on "Białystok Municipal Stadium" article title ==
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To summarize: "Stadion Miejski" is not a proper noun but a generic, descriptive term meaning "Municipal Stadium." This naming convention is used generically across Poland and does not denote uniqueness, as seen in other cities like Kraków or Poznań. Translating it into English ensures clarity for a global audience and aligns with established practices, as evidenced by stadiums like "Kazimierz Górski Stadium" and "Wrocław Stadium." Retaining the Polish term would obscure the meaning and set a problematic precedent for similar descriptive names. Examples from other countries further support translating generic terms for accessibility and consistency. The "Chorten Arena" sponsorship name remains secondary and is not a viable contender for the primary title. Given the weight of these arguments and prior support for the move, I hope you will reach a final decision to restore the English title, Białystok Municipal Stadium, maintaining the same rationale that initially justified your move. Thank you for considering this request. ] (]) 22:17, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
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:I wanted to bring to your attention my comment on the discussion page regarding the proposed move. A key point is that even the official website of the stadium refers to it in English as "Municipal Stadium", not "Chorten Arena." You can see this directly here: . I believe this evidence strongly supports the move to "Białystok Municipal Stadium" as the more accurate and neutral title. ] (]) 09:09, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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I was surprised, a decade or so, to learn that the wikipedia had a long-standing convention to take the wishes of BLP subject's into account, and agree to delete otherwise OK BLP articles, as a courtesy, when their notability is near the cusp. In principle it would be simpler if we were tough minded, and ignored all requests from BLP subjects. But we don't. These decisions are very subjective. Aggressive BLP subjects who make demands, rather than appeal to our sympathy are very likely to have their requests dismissed. When there are factors that appeal to the emotions of those deciding whether to agree to courtesy deletion, even a very notable person will win courtesy deletion.


Hi Amakuru, I added some curated summaries of the cities' histories to the two Old City DYKs. I quite enjoyed writing them. Did they address your comments adequately? ] (]) 10:06, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
Because Ms Nelson is an articulate beautiful young woman she would have a very strong sympathy factor on her side, if she appealed for a courtesy deletion. If she were to add to that an assertion like ''"I defended my mother's publication of the naked photo of me, when I was child, but that was half my lifetime ago, and I now agree with the politicians who saw me as a victim of child abuse..."'' This would be the clincher. She would almost certainly win courtesy deletion. ] (]) 12:54, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
* Plus, personally, I don't want to work on an article about her, if she doesn't want to be covered here. ] (]) 12:56, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


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Hi, see ]. The notion that 15th-century paintings have fixed titles like modern ones is wrong. There are standard names for the main religious subjects though. ] applies. See ] for further details. ] (]) 14:40, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
:Hi {{ping|Johnbod}} thanks for your message. And sorry to be always disagreeing with you on art-related titles! But I have to say I'm slightly confused by this. It seems like either the title of the work is ''Annunciation'', in which case we shouldn't include "the" in the prose at all. Or the title is ''The Annunciation'', in which case it should always be included, even in the title. And sure, I understand your point about 15th-century paintings not having precise titles, but it doesn't seem to make semantic sense to write "The ''Annunciation''". The definite article refers not to the painting (as it would if it were a ship, "the ''Mary Rose''") but to the event it depicts. Anyway, I'll have a look around and see how reliable sources style this, and I might consider starting an RM about this if the evidence is there... Thanks, and have a good weekend. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 15:54, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
::I don't see how art is any different to the event itself, so by your logic the main article should be ], as it is always so called. Try getting that past ]. It's the same with most of the events in this template. ] (]) 16:29, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


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==Midland League==
Hi Amakuru. Please start a ] for the Midland League if you think it should be moved. Undoing a reverted move isn't really on. Cheers, ] ]] 21:31, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Number 57}} No, you need to start an RM. The article in question described the 1889 league until it was split without discussion. I have done a history split of the article to clean up the mess, and am currently working on disambiguating all the incoming links between the two. More than half of the links are to the 1889, which means they were pointing at the wrong place... with a fair few for the 2014 too, so it's a fairly clear case of no PTOPIC anyway. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 21:33, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
::No I don't. The article was split a while ago, and the current version has been stable for a couple of years. ] ]] 21:35, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Number 57}} You can't just switch the primary topic like that without discussion. The article was not stable at the 2014 league because *the history pertained to the 1889 league*. Which, as a feeder league for division two of the football league, is clearly a more prominent topic than the level 9 league of the present-day. As I said, I'm in the middle of working on the incoming links, I'd appreciate if you'd please move the article back to 2014 and start an RM if you think it should be otherwise. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 21:40, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
::::It hasn't just been done though. I won't be moving the article back – you need to start an RM to have it moved. I'm amazed we're even having this discussion... ] ]] 21:41, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Number 57}} please can you at least explain the rationale your position? Ignoring the issue of which page was the incumbent primary topic for a second, how can you possibly think a 9th-tier league founded five years ago is more primary than a once third-tier league which existed for nearly 100 years? That's pretty much the definition of ]. I guess I'll have no choice but to start an RM if you refuse to undo the move, but your position makes no real sense from an encyclopedic standpoint. My original move should have been utterly uncontroversial and the original split (which was performed badly, with no regard for page history or incoming links) should never have taken place. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 21:49, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::::The rationale is that a current entity generally takes priority over a defunct one when it comes to the main title, even if it is not necessarily as high profile as the other organisation. See e.g. ]/]. Agree that the original split was not done correctly (and by a user that I have regularly castigated for problematic editing), but the current article would have remained where it was at the point of the split anyway. ] ]] 22:17, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::::{{ping|Number 57}} alright, thanks for the explanation and apologies for the earlier move warring. It's been a useful exercise anyway because most of the 1889 links are now fixed. Lots of Port Vale, Leeds United and Sheffield United players plied their trade there back in the 1890s and 1900s it would seem. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 23:02, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
::::::::No problem, and thanks for sorting out all the links! ] ]] 17:58, 23 May 2019 (UTC)


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:{{ping|Ravenpuff}} I'll look at it now. Been away for the weekend and only just got back. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 14:33, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ravenpuff}} OK, done. I've put '']'' in there.... since there are still a lot of artworks that were promoted in 2015/16, I'm still trying to make sure we don't go more than a week without having one... Do you want to write the blurb, or shall I? &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 14:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Mandarax}} oh, sorry about that. That shows why it's better to be explicit in the first place, otherwise readers won't know which one is meant. I've changed it to "CA$" - is that the correct abbreviation? ] doesn't mention that one... &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 10:02, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
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Hi, I see you changed the image here. Please rewrite the "(pictured, right)" part in the hook, to just ''(pictured)''. Thanks, ] (]) 15:00, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Yoninah}} done, thanks. For some reason I was thinking it meant that the picture was on the right... Which of course we never say. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 16:49, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
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== Whilst ==

was indeed good; I disagree about adding the geographical identifier -- reduces the hooky nature. ]] 15:42, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Winged Blades of Godric}} not sure I agree. "Hooky" is fine, but that shouldn't mean the text lacks basic information necessary to parse its meaning. A lot of readers will be unfamiliar with "the Emergency", and without any other clue as to where the subject comes from, it means than when read on its own, the hook gives no clue as to what's going on. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 15:46, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
::Which means that the reader clicks on the links in the hook to find out what is going on. ]] 15:48, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
:::I have started a discussion at ]. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 16:05, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

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== POTD for 2&nbsp;June ==

I noticed that you didn't copy your edits to ] of tomorrow's POTD over to ]. Would you mind doing so? Thanks. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family:'Trajan Pro','Perpetua Titling MT',Perpetua,serif">''']'''</span>&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> '']''&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> 16:35, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Ravenpuff}} OK, sure. If you're happy with them. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 16:36, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
:: They're fine, yeah. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family:'Trajan Pro','Perpetua Titling MT',Perpetua,serif">''']'''</span>&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> '']''&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> 16:39, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
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== POTD for 8 June ==

Do you think that ] would be a better target article than ]? ] uses the former page, which also seems like a more natural title for the picture to me. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family:'Trajan Pro','Perpetua Titling MT',Perpetua,serif">''']'''</span>&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> '']''&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> 12:23, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Ravenpuff}} thanks for the message. The choice was made by {{u|Adam Cuerden}} because it's his birthday on Sat and he chose the more quirky facial hair topic for a bit of light-heartedness. The image does appear on both articles so could use either but I don't have a strong opinion myself. Feel free to change it consult with Adam if you don't like it. If we're focusing on the facial hair then that should be the main linked article though. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 15:00, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
:: I've replaced the blurb and target article and ] explaining this. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family:'Trajan Pro','Perpetua Titling MT',Perpetua,serif">''']'''</span>&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> '']''&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b> 15:34, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Ravenpuff}} well alright, but really I wouldn't pay any attention to the caption on the FP page. The point of featured pictures is to highlight encyclopedic content, in whichever form. ] at the time of promotion as one of them. Probably would have left it at that myself. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 16:12, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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== Regarding your revert ==

Regarding your revert, you've reverted a similar change last time when Alucard 16 preformed one. I talked to you about ] and exaplined that the move is correct per ], after-which you said you'll raise the issue. You didn't and as it currently stands, you are just exercising some strange ] and preventing a single sub-set of a group of pages to be ] with literally every other television and Big Brother related page, with no backing of any guideline, but your personal preference. Very disappointing. --] (]) 23:28, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Gonnym}} apologies, it had slipped my mind that I promised to start an RFC on the issue, I must have never got around to it. I've therefore now supported the RM request, I don't feel that strongly about it. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 09:17, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

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== I ==

do not believe in faux civility. Urge your friend to refrain from , if he expects favorable treatment. Also, he has made dozens of edits over the course of last few hours and the template usage notes state:- {{tq|Do not use this template unless you plan to '''completely and permanently stop editing''' ... If you later '''resume''' editing, please '''remove''' this template from your user page.}} which is amply clear. ]] 14:04, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
:Of course, if someone does insist on making an obviously false claim about themselves on their userpage, it does help us judge the reliability of anything else they may say. ] (]) 14:12, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
::People will draw their own conclusions on that point. But your opinion on the validity of the template doesn't justify an unwanted edit on another user's page, especially one with disrespectful language about "diva-quits" etc. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 14:19, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
:::That's not my opinion. ]] 14:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
::::Rightly or wrongly, it's clear that Rob didn't want to remove the "Retired" notice from his talk page, given that Duncan had already raised the matter and he'd responded. If you really think the matter is of such importance that he needs to be forced to remove it, then go and file a complaint about it at ]. Otherwise, the relevant guideline is at ] - "In general, it is usual to avoid substantially editing another's user and user talk pages other than where it is likely edits are expected and/or will be helpful". Edits to people's pages accompanied by rude edit summaries are neither expected nor helpful in my expedience. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 14:35, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::Amakaru, if you actually cared about civility, rather than protecting your friends, you would have blocked Rob for his repeated personal attacks on Fram. ] (]) 14:39, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

== DYK Clear template in preps ==

Whatever you are using for this, please see ]. We just changed the ] so it has 9 hooks in the prep area. Might be that way for a long haul, with the going trend of short hooks. ] (]) 14:20, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Maile66}} noted, thanks. My method of clearing is usually just to locate the previous clear-down and reset the page to that version, but will make sure to explicitly use the nine-hook version until that is bedded down in all the prep areas. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 14:27, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
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== Two Owsley articles/McKinsey ==

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== Unprotecting for now ==

Hi, I unprotected ] since I blocked the main IP culprit of disruption. If there are more persistent problems we can reprotect, but I thought it was best to leave it open if possible. Ping {{u|FlightTime}} Thanks. -- ] &#124; ] 15:36, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{re|Fuzheado}} Thank you :) - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 15:43, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
::{{ping|Fuzheado}} alright, thanks. Let's wait and see. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 16:03, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

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== ] ==

There was one support, one oppose, and one "no view" on this. Without going into the strengths of the "arguments" it should have at least been relisted, or closed as no consensus. Also, nb, ] is currently a circular link on the disam page. ] (]) 23:07, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Johnbod}} I assessed it as consensus (with evidence) that the current name is ambiguous, similar to other cases mentioned, and no consensus to move the stadium article. Happy to relist it for you though. I might support the move and someone else can close it next time, since the arguments seem fairly convincing to me. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 06:33, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
::{{ping|Johnbod}} I can't see how this could have been closed as no consensus since the only oppose !vote was that the stadium should be moved instead while it was pointed out that the current title doesn't disambiguate from the current PT, I'm fine with a relist to see if something else should be done but its clear that the current situation cannot remain, see ] for example. ''']''' (]) 07:27, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
:::I was the oppose vote and made it entirely clear I was opposed to the nom. I didn't even clearly support moving the stadium. I'd better quote the lot: "*'''Oppose'''' this frankly crazy idea. Probably move the stadium, per above." Breathtakingly misleading account. ] (]) 13:23, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

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== Rights or wrongs ==

Well, I think ''anyone'' is justified in tagging an article which is about to go the main page when it's packed with unreferenced claims and what was about to be presented on the main page wasn't even accurate. As of right now, if you're not happy with the process I've ended up with, you don't have to do anything. It'd be a shame because history has shown that WP:TRM is about three times more effective than WP:ERRORS. But it 100% depends on dedicated people like you. In any case, thanks for your help over the last year. We're knocking on for 2,000 fixes, which I don't think is something to be sniffed at by anyone. ] (]) 16:01, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|The Rambling Man}} no I totally agree with you, mate. No complaints from me, and please keep up the good work. I just can't be bothered with getting into debates with people at DYK who think you're somehow being disruptive. I have enough other things to stress about. I'll just judge the individual cases on their own merits, fix the errors, pull substandard articles from the queue, and let others worry about the politics of it all. Wishing a pleasant weekend to you and yours. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 18:05, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
::That is ALL GOOD. Same to you, bon weekend. ] (]) 19:26, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

== Inappropriate close revert ==

] and ] were completely inappropriate since you did not follow ], specifically discussing it with me and if necessary initiating a ]. The first was a ]. Reverting the move until any necessary implementation adjustments could be made would have been one thing; however, reopening the discussion was out of process. On top of that, {{tq|ugly red errors messages}} is a completely insufficient description of whatever you were seeing. Finally, you didn't even have the courtesy to even notify me. —&thinsp;]&thinsp;<small>(]'''·'''])</small> 01:19, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|JJMC89}} good morning to you and I'm sorry for not notifying you - that was an oversight. And yes, in retrospect I should have noted what the errors were before making the changes, but obviously my priority was to get the template working again as real articles were being affected. On the matter of the process, the RM had been relisted by {{u|BD2412}} just half an hour before your attempted close, with comments that it should be given another week, so arguably it was your close that was out of process. I see little value in our bickering over that, though - the important thing is that we give more thought and care to this via the talk page, and hopefully a successful resolution will come out through the relist, either for a properly effected and checked move, or to leave the status quo in place. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 11:15, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

== ] ==

Amakuru, can you please stop by the nomination page the next chance you get, since it needs your concurrence to proceed. Many thanks. ] (]) 06:43, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

==Queue 5==
Hi, the last hook in this set was being discussed at ] when you promoted the set to the queue. He was jailed for 13 years, not 12, as confirmed by all the sources. I also added it to the article text. Please change "twelve" to "thirteen". Thanks, ] (]) 09:39, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
:Actually, since he was jailed in 2004 but only sentenced in 2005, his detainment can't really be called "serving time". Perhaps write:
:* ... that a podcast helped overturn the murder conviction of ''']''' after he had been imprisoned for thirteen years? ] (]) 09:43, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
:*:{{ping|Yoninah}} done. Thanks for pointing this out! &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 10:40, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
::Thank you! ] (]) 13:43, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

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:{{ping|Gerda Arendt}} thank you again, it is always a pleasure to receive this anniversary reminder. Is it really seven years already since Rwanda was on the main page? Time flies. All the best to you, and keep doing the good work you do! &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 21:43, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
:: Yes, really 7 years, which means it could appear again, as Kafka will in two days, - fitting in times more kafkaesque than normal, - or is it just more obvious? Anyway, your presence in Main page clean-up is felt daily, - thank you! I just simplified Precious, brave enough now to tell people from the start that it comes from the ], the principal writer of Kafka blocked, the ] banned, and left-behind me keeping the spirit ;) - (and yes, I still quote him in in ] 7 years later) --] (]) 22:00, 1 July 2019 (UTC)


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:::: ] it's another great woman, soprano ], and I found a 1963 Christmas Oratorio detail. 10 years earlier than that cycle, Bach wrote ] for the 1724 season, based on seven songs, - my focus this year. Expect three stories for the three days they celebrated in Leipzig ;) - Enjoy the season! --] (]) 21:37, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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:::::: My ] is about ], 300 years today, and its song, 500 years old. Enjoy! --] (]) 15:30, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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What do you mean by "restore status quo name WP:RMUM"? It's move after the ] article. You wouldn't use FR instead of France or IT instead of Italy etc. The United States are also a country with own name. ] (]) 21:41, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
== WikiCup 2019 July newsletter ==
:{{ping|Eurohunter}} hello and thanks for your note. Well, firstly the text you quote above is self-explanatory - you did a ] move on the page and I reverted you remove as per the procedure outlined at ]. Any potentially controversial move is subject to being reverted and it's then up to you and others to start a formal requested move discussion if you wish to proceed. Secondly, on the merits of the move itself, using "US" (or sometimes "U.S.") as a shorthand for the United States is vastly more common than using "FR" or "IT" would be. There are numerous examples across the project such as ], ], ] etc. where it makes the title more concise to shorten it. The title "Timeline of the United States intervention in the Syrian civil war" is already very long and it seems helpful for readers to make it shorter where we can by using the very well-known abbreviation. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 22:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)


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Hey, @]. Could you take a look at ] and tell me if it's fine to schedule it? One of the articles that it is in, ], contained ] which I don't know if that makes it main page material or not and the ] page is just littered with cns and tags. {{smiley|shades}} Thanks, <span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:#fff;border:2px dashed#69c73e">] - ]</span> 21:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
*{{flagicon|Norfolk Island}} ], our winner in 2016, with 500 points derived mainly from a featured article and two GAs on natural history topics
:Hi {{ping|Cowboygilbert}} thanks for the query, and I've got to be honest - I'm not really sure why this work doesn't have a page of its own... it doesn't really seem like either of the two articles where it currently appears really do it much justice in terms of covering any sort of detail on it, and it is surely a notable work of art in its own right (it's somewhat similar to ] but later and combining all seasons into one; it's also covered in sources such as and doubtless others so shouldn't be too hard to construct something. Personally, given the state of the two other articles - one using deprecated parenthetical referencing and the other very badly sourced, I'd recommend holding off until such time as we can get an article together. But I suppose if you can construct something with what we've got and it's relevant to the painting and cited then I wouldn't entirely object. On another note, I'm always on the look out for things we can put up as little "jokes" on April Fools' Day (see ] for next year, and ] for a particular favourite of mine) so it we could maybe get it up to scratch by 1 April 2026 and then construct a blurb that's a little jokey while also describing the work accurately, that might be a nice date to use ]. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 21:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
*{{flagicon|South Carolina}} ], with 480 points, a tally built on 16 featured pictures, the result of meticulous restoration work
::Yeah, I don't usually create articles that aren't related to pop culture lol. I'll toss it in /Unused and say that {{tlx|sources exist}} and it could be a separate article. I'll try to look out for an April Fools image though! Thanks, <span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:#fff;border:2px dashed#69c73e">] - ]</span> 22:05, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
*{{Flagicon|Cascadia}} ], a finalist in the last two years, with 306 points from a variety of submissions, mostly related to sport or the State of Washington
::I did find the newly promoted FP and it might be perfect for April Fools! ] <span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:#fff;border:2px dashed#69c73e">] - ]</span> 22:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
*{{Flagicon|United States}} ], with 305 points derived from a featured article and two GAs on archaeology and related topics
:::{{ping|Cowboygilbert}} ha ha, yes, go for it! &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 22:34, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
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== The song == == Fishes ==


Thank you for moving the articles I requested. In biology a taxon may have more than one scientific name but an author is expected to choose a name and stick to it. ] project has agreed to use '']'' as the guide to the taxonomy, including specific names. This means that if the article title is a scientific name then it should be the "correct" name, i.e. that used by ECoF, so I don't see how the article titles policy is being circumvented. ''Nun galileus'' is used because the genus name on its own would need disambiguation. ] (]) 14:17, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Well I've heard of it, but I don't know about the opening line. All I know is "it's a gas gas gas...." Certainly not true that most or even many will get it. ] (]) 13:10, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
:Yeah, for some reason I've never been exposed to or listened to the Rolling Stones. The 1960s were before my time, and my parents were more Beatles people. Sounds like that would be a suitable song for Bristol Rovers fans. Anyway, apparently I'm told that we allow different capitalization for the quirky spot... that's nice to know, posting inaccurate information on the main page in the name of a joke that few people will get. I need to be careful, I may become as cynical as you! &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 13:17, 3 July 2019 (UTC) :{{ping|Quetzal1964}} yeah, thanks for the note and as I said, I'll not oppose these and I can certainly see the advantage of using a consistent approach to naming. My main concern was with respect to the ] aspect of the titling policy. From a brief look around it did appear like ''Oxynoemacheilus galilaeus'' was being used by a lot more different sources than ''Nun galileus''. Some may be out-of-date of course, in which case a ] situation is in play; what I mean is that in general I'm wary of relying on one source while avoiding larger usage in others, but in this specialised case it may be justified, and the WikiProject discussion seems to suggest editors are happy with that approach. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 14:24, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
::I read it and thought "I don't know even know what the hell that means" and moved on. I didn't even bother checking if the target article was any good. It was a complete turnoff. Oh and I'm not cynical, I just know where some of the quality issues are around here, today's an exemplar!! ] (]) 16:57, 3 July 2019 (UTC)


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:{{ping|Lightburst}} thanks for the greetings. I hope you had a pleasant holiday weekend. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 15:10, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


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:{{ping|Calvinballing}} yes, seems fair. I've moved the article into mainspace for you. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 16:33, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks! ] (]) 17:59, 4 July 2019 (UTC)


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Then I would suggest proposing ] for deletion. There's no point in redirecting ] to ] and also having this article. I would, incidentally, have no problem with its deletion, but currently information is duplicated. -- ] (]) 11:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi, we're waiting for your response at this nomination so we can promote it. Thanks, ] (]) 22:08, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Necrothesp}} I agree that there's little value in that page. It is very short and the content that's there could easily be merged and covered in ]. Be that as it may, however, there's no justification for end-arounding the recent RFD discussion which concluded there was no consensus to change the redirect at ]. Cheers and happy Christmas. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 10:32, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::I was not aware of that RfD! However, I would respectfully point out that it appears to have been over a different issue. -- ] (]) 23:04, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


== Rollback == == Happy holidays! ==
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Hey, sorry about the revert of your edit at the Fram discussion, was by accident. Sorry again. ] (]) 11:02, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Kante4}} no worries, I've done that myself before! All the best &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 11:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Maliner}} many thanks, and very kind of you to send this to me. Wishing you and yours a joyful Christmas and a great 2025. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 10:33, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


== Thanks for the close == == OTD issue for 1987 Forsyth County protests ==
I received a notification this morning regarding an OTD issue related to the ] article that I wrote a while back. After looking through the edit logs for ], the only conclusion I can come to is that I mixed up the dates, putting the event under December 24 instead of January 24. It was an unfortunate oversight on my part. As I'm not too experienced with OTD matters, I wasn't sure where to send this response, but I nonetheless wanted to apologize for any issues that may have caused with the process. Thanks, -] (]) 12:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|JJonahJackalope}} no worries at all, mistakes happen... I was only worried in case there was some actual event that took place on 24 December that I was missing. Thanks for your contributions to the project, and wishing you a happy festive season. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 14:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


== Happy Holidays!!!!! ==
But the consensus at ] also applies to ], which you maybe didn't notice. ] (]) 14:44, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Dicklyon}} ah, I see what you mean. It must have been formatted weirdly, because there was no RM notice posted on the ] article. It seems like that one follows the others similar, anyway, so I've gone ahead and moved it. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 15:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks. Yes, sometimes when a couple of rejected technicals are converted to an RM discussion they don't do it right. I had fixed Burma campaign, but missed this one somehow. This is one reason I don't like the process of automatically converted rejected technicals to RM discussions without the OP's involvement. ] (]) 15:10, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


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:{{ping|Jerium}} many thanks! Wishing you and yours a wonderful holiday season as well &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 15:21, 29 December 2024 (UTC)


== User page works ==
I saw that you recently moved the Rural Municipality page after the discussion. Thanks. I was one of the ones who thought that since the article as written is entirely about Canadian RMs, it should be re-named.


Psssst, I'm not sure if you ever thought to update it, but all of the works under your football section which use "Final" in the title link to redirects. I probably notice this stuff more than others based on the CSS I use to indicate when pages are redirects, which displays them in green. Also, the GA link for ] is also a redirect. Not at all a big deal! But I personally like to bypass redirects when showing off my work and figured, hey, how often do people click their promoted content from their own user page? ] (]) 18:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
The discussion reminded me of a different page, one that I think should be deleted. It's a mis-spelt redirect for the Canadian territory of ]: ].
:{{ping|Hey man im josh}} ooh thanks, that's a good point. As you've guessed I hadn't notified this and can barely remember what's on the user page anyway. I'm in the middle of things right now but will update it to lowercase when I get the chance. Or you can feel free if you want to do it! Cheers, and wishing you a great festive season. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 18:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::Sure no problem, bypassed those redirects for you. Oh, and also, if you are interested in having redirects highlighted and italized like I am (which I recognize not everyone is), the relevant code is at ]. I hope you have a wonderful holiday season as well! ] (]) 18:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


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It strike me that keeping a mis-spelt page as a re-direct encourages mis-spelling in articles. If an editor incorrectly uses the mis-spelling as a wikilink, there's no indication that it's a spelling error. However, if the ] re-direct page were deleted, and then an editor used "Nunavat" as a link, it would immediately come up as a redlink, alerting the editor that there was a problem.


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I'm sure there's a wiki policy on this somewhere, but I couldn't find it so I thought I'd ask an administrator. :) --] (]) 15:45, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Mr Serjeant Buzfuz}} thanks for your question here. The decision on whether to delete the redirect usually depends on whether it's a useful redirect for users if they happen to type that term into the searchbox. Spelling mistakes that are very often made tend to keep their redirects, but not always. This one was created very early in Misplaced Pages's history, in 2002. My suggestion for you would be to go to ] and follow the instructions there, for proposing deletion of the redirect. Others will then come and comment on whether they think it should or shouldn't be deleted. Thanks, and happy editing &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 15:50, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks Amakuru. It looks like there is a policy and two of the grounds for keeping it would apply here: (1) the redirect link is very old, so eliminating it might affect a number of other pages; and (2) if it redirects a frequent misspelling to a correct spelling: ] Given that, I won't ask to have it removed. ] (]) 14:12, 11 July 2019 (UTC)


== Welcome to the 2025 WikiCup! ==
==Your good name ==


Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2025 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor, we hope the WikiCup will give you a chance to improve your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found ''']'''. If you have not yet signed up, you can ''']''' and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the ].
Firstly, thanks for that scarecrow joke yesterday. Corny, of course, but not in a bad way. Really "grounds" a story about standing alone in a field against semiravenous birds when the crowd is firmly (if subconsciously) in on the notion that buddy won the big one in a ''corn''field. Comedy or drama, corn is metaphorical gold in any town where corn is literally sold. Whether you meant to or not, you struck it rich last night. Congratulations!


For the 2025 WikiCup, we've implemented ] to the scoring system. The highest-ranking contestants will now receive ] at the end of each round, and final rankings are decided by the number of tournament points each contestant has. If you're busy and can't sign up in January, don't worry: Signups are now open throughout the year. To make things fairer for latecomers, the lowest-scoring contestants will no longer be eliminated at the end of each round.
But when I said we'd need to something about your name, that was just part of my act. A callback to a time I wasn't alive for in a place I've only seen on TV, read about in books and tried to reimagine online just "once or twice" before. So not to ruin a bad joke further by needing to explain the punchline aloud, but ''struggling to'' adapt to these "modern sensibilities" I've only heard "the kids" (Joplin, Dylan, Mitchell) sing about while "hepped up on goofballs" (referring to myself), allow me, if you will, good man, a chance to redeem your satisfaction (no guarantees implied):


The first round will end on 26 February. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: {{User4|Cwmhiraeth}}, {{User4|Epicgenius}}, {{User4|Frostly}}, {{User4|Guerillero}} and {{User4|Lee Vilenski}}. Good luck! <small>If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from ].</small> ] (]) 00:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Your name is alright, ''seriously''. It's just that "in my day" ('80s pop culture expositions of purported '50s backstage filth), ''it seems like'' the "thing to do" when discovering ripe new corn-based talent is/was to change their name to something less "exotic" for the domestic market (corn-fed white Midwestern American folk). So I figured you might get a kick out of it, an allusion to "simpler times", as it were. But a day late, it dawned on me that you may likely be a proud African male (18 to 34). It is in this strange spirit of white-but-Canadian guilt I sincerely beg your pardon today, eh?
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My people often forget the cruel indignities imposed on your people's ancestral cousins during, before and after the ] and ] cross-border television eras, onscreen and off, cannot stress it enough. Casual racism is the worst there is, the worst there was and the worst there ever will be. Equally true to this, people have a hard time believing I mean things like this, simply because I'm "always on" with regard to speaking in riddles and referencing old school ephemera ''far'' more liberally than I do scholarly academic articles. I'm blacklisted from performing at the Ref Desk, partially because of that, partially in solidarity with an oppressed StuRat and partially because of "creative differences", but '''never''' for telling a racist joke (Indian burns don't count, I was half-reared by Algonquin in the forest, nothing crude or mean). My ] are more in the style of Homer Simpson (]) Too much TV, junk food, beer, weed, rock music, marital turmoil and sweet glorious head trauma!
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Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw ] by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see ]. Christmas was also great. How about you? -- ] (]) 18:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 20:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Can you, in 2019, forgive me for being born a simple oaf whose only "real mistake" was getting into the entertainment business because he hated children? If not, can I least get some feedback on whether you thought I implied you should have a slave name instead of a stage name? Not that I'm so insecure in my tolerability that I need validation of my non-racist status card from the first black guy I potentially inexcusably insult, but just out of common decency? Please?


My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. - Did you see Masilo talking and dancing? --] (]) 09:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Even if I've just dug myself deeper by putting this wall of dry text between us and you never want to fool around again, I'll understand. But like that nice Jewish boy in South Park, I learned something today. "Amakuru" was never hard to pronounce, or about skin colour or the friends we made along the way. It's not one village, one river or any one of us rowing down this drain called life. Not me, not you, not the feelings in the subcockles of our hearts. Amakuru just fundamentally and basically stands for that one question it always has, the one we ask every morning, evening and underneath the moon. Transcends cultures and beliefs, tragedy and comedy, light and shadow, ''ladies and gentlemen'':
:Hi {{u|Gerda Arendt}} and a very happy new year to you! I haven't seen the Masilo thing yet, but will take a look now... I've been in the ] on a bit of a family break... will upload some pics later. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 09:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


== Administrators' newsletter – January 2025 ==
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:{{ping|InedibleHulk}} wow, this is quite the essay you've penned for me here. Thanks for that. You needn't have worried, though - (a) I confess I hadn't even looked back at that thread until now, so didn't see your response, (b) I didn't think you were talking about me personally, just a general joke, and (c) I'm actually not African myself, though it would be good if I were, as representatives from the continent on WP seem to be few and far between. I'm just another boring white British nerd like so many others here... I did spend many years in Rwanda and Kenya though, and through marriage I now have an extended African family, so can't complain too much. Anyway, I hope your ''amakuru ni meza'' this morning, and, might I add, '''' to you as well! &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 08:05, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
:::Oh. Well in that case, here's a boring white guy joke, stop me if you've heard it before...] Get it? Cause you're a nerd! Anyway, you have a bright future in the industry. Keep on truckin'! ] ] 08:19, ], ] (UTC)
::By the way, your link said no way, I've had enough. So I Googled it and wound up on Twitter. Met a guy who advised "amashyo" was replaced by "warbyibushye" in late 2017. Any truth to that? ] ] 08:42, ], ] (UTC)
::Nevermind, clicked again and it worked. Thanks! I had a cow who had a bull, and he's doing well. Castrated, but well. ] ] 08:48, ], ] (UTC)
:::Ha, you've found a good one there. And actually, it's not just since late 2017 that such a greeting has been used. For as long as I've known Rwanda, people there have regularly greeted each other with "wow, you are looking very fat today!" In a country where many people are very poor, rely on what they can grow to feed their families, and don't have any of the rich fattening food we take for granted, that's a compliment indeed... it means the other person is clearly healthy and doing well in life. When aimed at an overweight westerner living in the country, though, it can cause considerable offence. Cultural boundaries... &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 09:00, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
::::Makes sense. Cheer whatever takes effort. But are these fortunate chunkers actually near American standards of fat? When your weight stops you from breathing OK, that seems unhealthy anywhere. ] ] 18:21, ], ] (UTC) 18:21, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::Oh crap, the guilt has dawned anew. I forgot boring white British nerds can sometimes be as fat as onbnoxious black American cheerleaders and sometimes refer to themselves as westerners. Even if you aren't the type, I meant no considerable offence. Nothing shameful about poor physical fitness, it just objectively isn't healthy, at either extreme. When I named myself this, I was buff, but I'm tree wizard gangly lately, for what it's worth (any my teeth are worse than Austin Powers', utterly unshagadelic). Under no pressure to confirm or deny anything you don't want to, to be clear. Good luck to swingers of all shapes, use what you've got! ] ] 22:16, ], ] (UTC)
:::::<small>In case you're wondering what the difference is, a tree wizard maxes out at two shouldered corvids, while a scrawny scarecrow can attract and support dozens. Instead of corncob pipes of meth, we wield dragonskull bongs of herb. And rather than ultralow frequency soundwaves, we cast and weave through a trinary digital bitstream. Also, all wizards are never blonde. ] ] 23:18, ], ] (UTC) </small>
::::::Nope, I'm not particularly overweight. I even go to the gym and stuff, and try to fix errors on the main page in between reps. So once again, you've failed to offend me I'm afraid. In fact very little offends me, even if it's true, so you can stay safe on this page, I won't report you to the WMF T and S team 🤗 &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 23:24, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Which once again proves my point: A retarded wizard is as common as a brainy scarecrow, in reality. Also, Germans love David Hasselhoff. A little ] for you there, now that I know you can handle it. Is he a thing in the UK or Rwanda yet? Far funnier than Celine Dion or Bryan Adams, if you're worried about gaining the boredom back. I'll bet ''your mother'' would like him, nerd! Seriously though, she's alright and I'll let you get back to work on your delts, brother! Hasta la vista, as they say in Kansas. ] ] 23:47, ], ] (UTC)


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:{{ping|Kevin McE}} eek, I wasn't intending to accuse you of that... do you know I've been on Misplaced Pages all this time and I didn't actually know that ''rvv'' means "reverting vandalism", I just thought it meant the same as ''rv''. Apologies for the misundersanding and of course, your edits were made in good faith. I don't agree with them, but they're certainly not vandalism. All the best to you and wishing you a pleasant weekend. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 18:59, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
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Regardless, on April 30, the page to "2019 Venezuela uprising" without consensus, and as the discussion progressed, more and more agreed that the current title is flawed. Almost all agreed at the very least that if the title contains "uprising" or "coup" then it should contain the word "attempted". Several of us raised the concern during the discussion that a "no consensus" decision would keep the status quo title which had been imposed without consensus and for which there was now a consensus ''against'', and I was hoping that this would be addressed in the closer's rationale. Can you address it? (Apologies again for bothering you.) Thanks, ] (]) 22:18, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Davey2116}} thanks for your message and I will have another look at the RM tomorrow, when I have a bit of time. I would say, though, that there was a previous RM on this topic which affirmed the title of "uprising" (it was closed as "not moved", which usually means a consensus for the status quo). Also, unlike a coup, I don't think an uprising has to be "successful" to qualify as an uprising. But anyway, I will look at the discussion again tomorrow in case there was some consensus that I didn't spot previously. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 22:33, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
::Thank you, take your time. ] (]) 22:55, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Davey2116}} apologies, I've been at the tennis in Wimbledon all day, but I will come back to this, hopefully tomorrow! Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 21:30, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
::::Thanks for re-starting the discussion! We can get a clearer picture of the consensus, whichever way it lands. (P.S.: I hope you enjoyed Wimbledon; sounds fun!) ] (]) 16:15, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Davey2116}} yes I hope so! And thanks, yes it was a great day out. I was on No. 1 Court, rather than Centre Court, so didn't see the big match between Federer and Djokovic, but I did get to see the ] and ] finals, as well as an invitational match featuring former champions ] and ]. First time I've been and it was nice just to soak up the atmosphere and enjoy the strawberries and cream. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 16:22, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

== ] ==

Seriously, you thought this was so urgent that you couldn't bother to talk to me about ''an image scheduled for three months from now'' before going off and posting a debate on the Main Page that failed to mention the historical importance, the notability of the photographer, that the only image we've banned for nudity or salaciousness since '''2006''' was literally a painting of an naked underage woman - and that one seems to have mostly been voted off more to avoid encouraging some sort of nasty situation with sock puppetry and attacks than any issues with it being a nude if you ]. Yes, in the very distant past we'd not schedule something with nudity. It's been over a decade since that's been a thing, and I don't think resurrecting it now helps anyone.

We've featured ]... ], probably ]. Some of the dead bodies were ]. We've had ], and more breasts than I can count. If you had asked me, I would have pointed this all out to you. I really, really wish you had done so. Try to do better in future? <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 6.8% of all ]</sub></span> 05:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
::{{ping|Adam Cuerden}} has civility gone out of the window this morning? The discussion is of a general nature, and I have no doubt the image in question is important, but that doesn't mean it's suitable for the main page. So it's right to get the community's input beforehand. And obviously I pinged you into the discussion. Given the lack of consensus so far, I think a full RFC may be necessary and these things take time to work out. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 06:19, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
::Seriously, you go from a survey where you misrepresent the image, act as if censoring FP was normal when it hasn't been since 2006, and when I confront you about it, you start a survey, with all the misrepresentation in place? You're something else. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 6.8% of all ]</sub></span> 16:40, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Adam Cuerden}} Please stop trying to pin some blame on me for this. I didn't unilaterally delete the POTD or attempt to cut you out of the loop, and the failure of the ping to work properly is regrettable but was not intentional. I started the discussion in good faith, and because it didn't seem like it was going to generate a clear consensus I widened it to An RFC. And whatever you may think about the matter, it is clearly a closeup picture of genitals and the community needs to make a decision if that's allowed on the main page. None of the cited precedents are anything close to this type of image. Honestly you've put a dampener on my day after I woke up to the above telling off, and I don't think it's justified. I'm just trying to do the right thing. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 16:54, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
The thing's scheduled for October. You're pushing this forwards very hard for somethibg with no near time limit. Did you need to start a survey before we xould talk over the issues and work out a neutral wordong, when I've made it very ckear I object to your heading and framing of the debate? <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">''']''' <sup>(])</sup><sub>Has about 6.8% of all ]</sub></span> 17:13, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
:Hostile much? I think using phrases like "try to do better in future" and "you're something else" aren't commensurate to helping here. Also, Adam, you seem to be the '''only one complaining about this being highlighted and discussed in such a fashion'''. The community at large seem to be doing a fine job of discussing it without resorting to such open hostility. ] (]) 17:31, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

==Prep 3==
Hi, did I restore all the right script ? Thanks, ] (]) 10:15, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Yoninah}} yes, it looks like it, and apologies for the mix up. I tried using the "Did you know/Clear" template rather than just finding an old cleared version in the history today, to avoid missing updates that have happened in the last week such as . Bbut it seems I still didn't use it correctly! Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 10:48, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
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== my problem with the U.S - where it is from ==

Hello

I did want to fill you in that I don't have a problem with U.S. editors, I have a problem with people from several right-wing leaning states like Alabama, where dermies is from.

Alabama, Georgia, Texas and several other states that are extremely right and anti feminist.
Mayb eI'm completely missing something as I am an Eritrean who lived in Southend-on-sea and London for most of his life, then moved ot Canada in mid 2018.

I've been tought over my life to have distrust towards such people, unlearning things is like me telling an American to unlearn whateve rvalues is dear to them.

We value freedom, and not invading other countries. So yeah, it's not all of the U.S. it's the right-wing anti abortion anti feminist states that I don't care fore, including Alabama, Georgia and Texas.

Pluss, I do have a problem with a country who's leader calls Africa a bleep hole and who tells Africans to "get out".

Maybe it is my pride being too high or something, it' show I was raised.
I tell people, even though I speak with a British accent, and live din Southend-On-Sea and London for my whole childhood and London for my teenage years, and now Canada, that I am Eritrean, as I am born in Nakfa, and flead to the UK in 1998.
I have similar problems with some parts of the UK, but I forgive the UK as they gave me a home, the U.S. would not.

So it's a combination of how I was raised, Donald Trump, and right-wing republican views in such states as Alabama, Texas and Georgia.

I do try to be civil as bes tI can, but I do not recognize authority from those states due to how I was raised.

I'm still unlearning things from my past, I used to be tought that my blindness meant I'd never amount to anything and i'm learning that that was false.
These changes take time and are rather taxing on th emind.

Also next time an American wants to block me, don't do the short and sweet reasoning, it's like those officers in those TV shows, "you're arrested for murder, " "when?" "you're under arrest for murder, that's my answer."

Again maybe I'm missing something big time, and I trust you to help me understand form a wiki perspective.

I just don't trust pro gun and right-wing trump supporting and anti abortion people.
And i know it's not all in those states, but it's enough that these things happen, maajority rules, and it hurts me to know that.

I do plan on engaging as best I can provided that they are willing to see where I am coming from too.


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== John Hancock Tower ==

Did you intend to indefinitely full protect ] from editing as well as moving when you protected this article? ]★] -- 20:55, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Iffy}} good catch, thanks, and apologies for the mistake. Corrected. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 22:05, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

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== Your close at ITN ==

I don't think it is the end of the world. But that was a bad close. There is no clear indication that there was no chance of a consensus in support and there was no clear consensus in opposition. People cannot double vote so consensus may change as more people participate. There was no harm in leaving it open but by closing it you supervoted to oppose. You should let the nomination last the full 7-days or until there is a clear consensus in opposition. The arguments mentioning "not global" and "only US" should be ignored per established guidelines. ---&nbsp;]<nowiki/>and] 22:59, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Coffeeandcrumbs}} there is no requirement to keep an ITN nom open for seven days, and in many cases the news item would have gone off the bottom of the list by that time anyway. It's quite frequent to close off noms for lack of consensus, 24 hours into a discussion, when people end up talking across each other and the thing becomes a timesink. It would take an extraordinary turnaround for any consensus to emerge in that discussion. I get that you don't agree, but the arguments against posting were as valid as yours, and that's the way it goes sometimes. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 23:18, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
::Indeed, that's the way it goes sometimes. ---&nbsp;]<nowiki/>and] 23:25, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

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== Well, I'm back at RM ==

After about taking a year off of anything dealing with content because of real life things that made doing research through sourcing in my spare time significantly less enjoyable than it used to be, I've decided to take the plunge back into that side of the project. Still as fun and interesting as it used to be. A nice breath of fresh air from sockpuppets and LTAs. Next to finish my 17th century conclave series of GAs this week before the library books are due and I can't renew them anymore. ] (]) 04:08, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|TonyBallioni}} Excellent news, and you are quite right. RMs are a great place to spend time, I personally think article titles is at least as important as deletions. But for the most part you don't get too much controversy or make too many enemies so it's a nice haven away from the rough and tumble of the drama boards! Content creation too. I've been trying to churn out a few more articles when time permits too. I'll look forward to reading the conclave GAs as and they're ready! Cheers, and have a good weekend. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 08:37, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

== Calment close ==

Greetings Amakuru. I am puzzled by your close at ] ("Seeking Consensus" subsection). I would have rated this as no consensus. Most of the supporters argue that the dispute is a conspiracy theory that should be considered FRINGE, but that can't be compared to the "fake moon landings": in one case, experts have relied chiefly on the recollections of the article subject about her own life, or her prior declarations to census officers; in the other case there are thousands of people who were direct witnesses to the Apollo program. Also, you say that you discounted arguments pointing out that the Calment case has been disputed since 2000, because sources had not been presented. All those sources are in the ] article, where numerous discussions since late 2018 have established consensus to describe the dispute in some detail, with appropriate caveats. As I said in my "Oppose" reasoning, {{tq|the controversy about Jeanne Calment's age is now a key part of her notability.}} Hopefully it will be settled in the coming years. Would you reconsider your conclusions? — ] <sup>]</sup> 09:46, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|JFG}} thank you for your query, and I have had another look at this case and the Calment article itself. However, I think given the arguments presented by those participating in the discussion, and the sourcing evidence as it stands, I have to stick by my close. It's certainly appropriate to discuss the issue in Calment's article itself, where several paragraphs can be devoted to nuances of the case, but for the "List of verified oldest people" we're limited to a single binary decision on whether to label it as "disputed" or not. Taking the weight of current published sources, the supporter argument is that it is not regarded in the mainstream as disputed, an assertion that wasn't conclusively refuted. Of course this may change in the future if more evidence comes to light, or more reliable sources jump on the bandwagon with some evidence of their own. Nothing is set in stone. I don't really have an opinion on this issue myself so really was just evaluating the presented arguments. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 10:06, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
::OK, thanks. I think the appropriate action is now to mention the dispute in a footnote, so as not to give it undue prominence while keeping readers aware of its existence. — ] <sup>]</sup> 11:59, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

== I am not certain that you ==

did jump to the wrong conclusion but there's no point in surfacing this in full public glare!

Best. ] (]) 08:27, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Leaky caldron}} yeah, who knows. There are probably several ways to interpret the comments. But it's not really very important at this stage, the RFA is closed now and I'll assume good faith by default! Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 08:33, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, seeking help with an edit war situation related to the RfC close you recently made. Apparently an editor is refusing to abide by the results of the RfC close, and said . They have undone the deleted names two times and . I ]. They are ignoring talk discussions, ignored participation in the RfC, and ignored the invitation to discuss how to implement the close - it is brute force only. I believe this account is a sock, based on the limited SPA edit history, but have not investigated who the master might be. Can you help? -- ]] 03:02, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

==''Tenet'' DRN==
Hi Amakuru,

I have tried to discuss the issue with Cognissonance on his talk page (see the section "Disruptive edits"). When I felt that Cognissonance was edit-warring, I went to 3RR, but was advised that DRN might be the more appropriate place to raise the issue. He has been active in the ''Tenet'' article since the DRN was posted, but appears to be ignoring it; in the meantime, he is reverting everything in the article itself. Between the discussions on his talk page and the DRN, I feel like I'm doing everything I can to address the issue, but I also feel that he has no intention of addressing it. I don't know what else I can do save go to ANI (and my last visit there is not going well). ] (]) 22:25, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Mclarenfan17}} you talk of a dispute, but I don't see any evidence of what it is all about, what the contentious issues are, or any real attempt to discuss and compromise. The first place you should be dealing with this is at the article's own talk page, ], which I note is still empty. Put a section there, with specific ideas or concerns, not about other editors but about the content you wish to see in the article. If you make a good faith effort at that process, and after some days there's no resolution, then fine, seek dispute resolution. But unless you clearly articulate the issues, and make good faith efforts to work through them with other parties, then going to DRN or ANI isn't going to get you anywhere and might even lead to sanctions against yourself. That is my advice to you. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 22:52, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

::I feel that the contentious issue is a hybrid of content and conduct, so I don't really know how to articulate that on the talk page. The edits that I am proposing are edits that I think are common sense and under normal circumstances do not need comprehensive discussion&mdash;for example, indicating that the Pärnu Highway is in Estonia. Now, I understand that Cognissonance might have concerns about that and I am willing to discuss them, but I want to see something that means the discussion is taken seriously. Looking at the edit history of the page, I think that Cognissonance is showing ] behaviour, constantly reverting edits that he disagrees with. He even claimed that the article did not need copyediting as it had already been copyedited despite my pointing out the grammar errors. I am left with the impression that other editors are not welcome. How do I separate the content issue from the conduct issue when I feel that they are so closely related? ] (]) 00:15, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

:::Hi Amakuru,

:::I decided to take a step back from the ''Tenet'' article and watch to see how things play out before going to the talk page. However, I noticed that Cognissonance's behaviour in the article , unilaterally reverting almost every single edit that has been made. There are no edit summaries, talk page discussions or attempts to address editors individually. I believe that this is a clear case of ], and I do not expect him to participate or engage in any talk page discussion (and I will ping him and notify him of the discussion on his talk page so he cannot be unaware of it), but wanted to notify an admin before I did anything more. ] (]) 11:22, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

==Main Page talk==
Please don't delete discussions about items that are still current on the Main Page. – ] (]) 15:35, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Sca}} There was no consensus for any action, and you were the only person who thought there was a problem there. There is no need to keep things on the errors page if there's no prospect of the discussion leading anywhere. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 15:40, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
::Give these things a bit more time, please – they're still relevant as long as they're on the Main Page. – ] (]) 15:42, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

== Your perspective please ==

Amakuru, I am being retrospectively accused of edit warring with you when I reverted your revert , on July 13, and I'm also being accused of unspecified large-scale controversial moves, in an attempt to indef block me. I don't understand why, but a bunch of editors have piled on, while I can't get them to tell me ''which'' large-scale moves were controversial. Your perspective might be useful since they accuse me of edit warring with you. Top section in ]. ] (]) 04:20, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
:Thanks for your kind support there. I'm now appealing the supposed "ban" at ]. ] (]) 15:49, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

== Queue 4 ==

I was wondering if you could fix my Eunice Kettering hook in queue 4 to say age six instead of age 6. I asked yesterday on the DYK talk page, but no one will fix it. ] (]) 20:33, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|SL93}} OK, done. Thanks. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 21:07, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

==Adding hooks for main page balance==
Hi, could you consider pulling something already loaded in the prep sets to balance the DYK column, rather than ? We have six loaded prep sets to work with. Thanks, ] (]) 22:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

== Errors ==

Hi Amakuru, hope you're well. Should I assume that either my comments are now too irrelevant or that you aren't actioning any of them or something else? ] <small>(])</small> 07:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|The Rambling Man}} morning to you, I'm well thanks and hope you are likewise, despite the ignomy of ITFC currently sitting lower in the league than Coventry... I'm not sure what your complaint here is referring to: is there something specific that you asked me to do, and I missed it? Or is it just a general failure to act on issues at WP:TRM recently? If the latter, I'll just have to make the same excuse I made regarding the late POTD last week - I was on holiday with the family, exploring Albanian hillsides and Greek islands and suchlike, hence not able to be on WP as much as usual. Back in rainy London now though, so hopefully will be able to process things in a more timely manner. Cheers &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 08:37, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
::Yes, the latter, didn't realise you were away, no problem. As for ITFC, we're slow-burning and undefeated, and hopefully going to secure three points at home to the original Wimbledon tomorrow night. I am ''still'' optimistic for the season ahead (should be, I've got a season ticket now...!) ] <small>(])</small> 08:39, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
:::{{ping|The Rambling Man}} oh, nice! Hope you have a better season than last time, anyway. Not good seeing the once-great clubs struggling. "Home" games are in Birmingham for us this season... &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 09:59, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
::::Funny that, I drove past the Ricoh Arena (along Jimmy Hill Way) en route to Edgbaston for the cricket a couple of weeks ago. They still have the Cov badge on the side of the stadium... cheeky. ] <small>(])</small> 10:31, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
:::::The stadium is owned by ] these days, and I've been half expecting them to repaint all the seats from sky blue to black-and-yellow for a few years now. Who knows what will happen next, although with our august owners seemingly intent on pursuing never-ending legal action against Wasps, doesn't seem like we'll be back at the Ricoh any time soon. Miss the old days at Highfield Road, it had a far better atmosphere and the decision by the late-1990s management to overreach itself in moving to a stadium we didn't own has played a large part in the club's decline. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 12:12, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

== going forward ==

Hello
I've talked with some people in person about my feelings towards Southern-U.S. editors and I've decided I will work with them going forward. My feelings towards Alabama have not changed, but my plan is to do my best not to let these feelings effect interactions with ].

I was supposed to be away from the country on this date as I had planned on going to London to reunited with some old friends, but due to family reasons that fell through, so I'm here and willing to fix any issues I have done.
As for accusations by Graham87 of me being somebody else, I won't even touch them.
thanks.
] (]) 21:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

== Only one ""... ==
... resorted to personal attacks I'm afraid. And that individual should be being held to a higher standard and shouldn't be edit warring to remove his personal attacks in my own user space. Incredibly poor. ] <small>(])</small> 15:25, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
:Ha, I had a feeling you might come back to me on that one. I don't want to really get involved, but IMHO when one side says "Nonsense" (mildly impolite but not worth getting in a tizz about), then the other side asks them to modify their "TONE" and not be "RUDE", the first person retorts "not that you've ever been one to emulate in that respect", the second says "PISS off", and so on, that's pointless escalation by both sides, and doesn't help anyone. Sure, it was your userpage and you were probably correct about "virtually" not being an encyclopedic adverb, but in that situation I would just argue the issue, not the individual, and let the facts and the apparent consensus speak for themselves. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 15:51, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
::I agree with everything you said. And after two personal attacks, neither of which emanated from me, and then the attempts at removing them, the good faith was gone! ] <small>(])</small> 16:35, 22 August 2019 (UTC)


== Question about Erik ==
*::"... that unlike ]'s previous eponymous songs, all of which use the same set of lyrics, ''']''' is a spoken-word protest about climate change by ] ''(pictured)''?" is mint. Use that, the other suggestions are shite. ] <small>(])</small> 21:53, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
*:::I think it's almost the same as what's there now, except yours says "1975" instead of the "fourth eponymous song". Agree that's better, for concision and avoiding repetition, but we Might have to run that one past the committee since they chit-chatted and consensus-built earlier... &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 22:02, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
*::::It's a perfect solution. One fewer clause, one fewer repetition. Awesome. Sure, run it by the important people. ] <small>(])</small> 22:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
*:::::I'm sure this should get the GERMAN ADMINBOTS after me for proxy sanction avoidance.... Sexing it up for the weekend! ] <small>(])</small> 22:09, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
*::::::Oh yes, rather. They'll say it wasn't an error, and the discussion has spilled over on to my talk page rather than ERRORS2. But perhaps that is OK if I explicitly invite you to discuss it here? And sign a disclaimer not to be offended if you're rude to me... &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 22:12, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
*:::::::Well, of course. But defending "basic English" should be straightforward enough. Unless "GermamBot" swoops in to make an indef block.... ] <small>(])</small> 22:15, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
*::::::::Why not just keep the discussion to your errors page, and save everyone the trouble? Don't bother answering; I just wonder if that would be more productive than stretching the bounds of your restriction, and then wondering if someone, and one person in particular, will get you in trouble for it. <span style="font-family:Papyrus">] (])</span> 01:38, 23 August 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for closing ]. What did you determine as the consensus regarding ]? A minimal closing statement {{tq|Moved}} usually implies that the move was made according to the request, or that the target is otherwise transparent from the discussion. In this case the requested target was ], and there was also some support for the alternative ], but the article was moved to ], which was not mentioned in the discussion. ] (]) 17:03, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
==Campaign Finances of Notable Non-major candidates==
:{{ping|Jähmefyysikko}} apologies, that was an oversight on my part. I thought that the RM was only asking about switching Eric to Erik, I missed the complication over Erik XII. I've now Moved it as you proposed. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 17:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I have opened a discussion of this issue on the talk page of the 2020 Republican Presidential primaries campaign page. Contrary to your assertion, i actually had already opened a discussion on the issue of Rocky De La Fuente's candidacy on the talk page. However I have opened a new discussion regarding the specific issue of campaign finances. I suggest you submit your remarks to the article's talk page.] (]) 21:00, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks! ] (]) 18:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|XavierGreen}} Yes, well that's great, and that is the place to discuss the matter. Ping other editors in if you need to. But when your edits are repeatedly reverted by multiple different editors that's usually a sign that you don't have consensus yet so you'll have to persuade them at the talk page . Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] (]) 21:06, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
::I know, i had left messages on several of these editors talk pages the first time around and none of them bothered to chime in on the talk page.] (]) 21:15, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

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Move conflict

Hey there, I think we both tried to do the same round-robin page move at the same time. See S. M. Marikkar. Should I fix it, or will you? Toadspike 17:51, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

tldr; the article now redirects to what was supposed to be the new title. The new title is a redirect to itself. So the article has been vaporized and we have two nonsensical redirects. Sorry for this mess. Toadspike 17:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
@Toadspike: ooh good grief, that's a silly mix-up, apologies for my part in that - we crashed right into each other! I think it's because I was busy checking the target history while you were moving the page, then I ended up moving the redirect right over the top of the article. HOpefully all sorted now anyway. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 18:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Thank you so much for cleaning up the mess! I knew my first round-robin move was gonna go wrong somehow... Toadspike 18:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
@Toadspike: He he, not to worry. I didn't realise that was your first one! I'm sure they'll go smoothly in the future, you did the right process anyway.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:11, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

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Why are you moving pages back that I had moved as per WP:CONSISTENT? The lists of international trips by presidents I moved were all in line with naming convention. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 03:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@Hemant Dabral: what naming convention is that? The moves you had made did not look uncontroversial to me - particularly changing the commonly used term "state visit" to be "international trip" doesn't seem in line with our usual naming conventions. Please start a WP:RM discussion if you wish to proceed with those moves. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 10:21, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
There are more articles titled "international trips", it has more search probability and to keep all lists in consistency this title should be used. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 11:53, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi @Hemant Dabral: clearly we need to iron out the nomenclature here, but that should be done through an RM if you wish to pursue it. If some articles have a bad title the solution isn't to move even more of them to have a bad title. "International trips" doesn't sound like encyclopedic tone, and also would potentially include holidays and suchlike which I don't think is the intention. "International visits" or "state visits" would be preferable.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
It's not some articles that have the title "international trips", all of them are tilted that way except the one related to Nicola Sturgeon. And six others titled "state visit". There are about 100 articles titled "international presidential trips" and about 60 articles titled "international prime ministerial trips". Are we going to move all these back to "visits" or is it more practical to move these seven articles to "trips"? That's the reason I made the move, otherwise I wouldn't have done that. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 15:36, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@Hemant Dabral: I understand what you're saying, but you'd still need to explain to me why the word "trip" is the best choice here. I'm not here to implement the most "practical" solution, I'm here to build an encyclopedia which is the best it can be for our readers, and that means using the correct names for things according to our article titling policy. That may also mean moving other titles to be better as well. Consistency is a good aim to have if the thing you're making consistent is a good thing, but otherwise it isn't. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 15:46, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Recent addition to Unused

Hey, Amakuru. Do you think Lipid bilayer would be a good fit for File:Phospholipids aqueous solution structures.svg? Seems like it covers every structure and has several mentions of the bilayer (ofc), liposomes, and of micelles. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 16:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Cowboygilbert:... I'm actually slightly puzzled about this, because I literally started writing a POTD entry using that very article shortly before I filed the pic as unused, but then backed out because I thought the article Lipid bilayer was only covering one of the three things in the pic (since the bottom part of the diagram is explicitly labelled as "bilayer sheet". But you're absolutely right - it does cover the micelles and liposomes too, not sure how I missed that, and it's a GA too so a perfect choice for a POTD blurb. Feel free to revive it now if you like, otherwise I will do so in the next few days. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 16:39, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
@Amakuru, All good, . I'll probably construct something but I have been focusing mainly on media for my last couple schedules. Thank you! Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 16:41, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

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thank you! - greetings from a trip --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you Gerda Arendt, I was also away over the weekend, nowhere very exciting though, just New Addington and walks in the surrounding countryside  — Amakuru (talk) 17:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for sharing! - I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang Hevenu shalom aleichem at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:11, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Oo I think I sang that song at one point in my youth. Very sorry to hear about the loss of your friend, may they rest in peace. I took part in a performance of Fauré's Requiem yesterday with my orchestra, alongside a local choir. Very lovely and moving music I sang tenor in it many years ago. Sadly my uncle is nearing the end of his life and we may sing some of that Requiem at his funeral.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:49, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you. I sang alto in the Fauré years ago. Went out with my friend now widow and others, to the service pictured and food - a good time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Białystok Municipal Stadium closure of RM

Hi! For a possible move review, I want to ask about the closing of the RM on "Talk:Białystok Municipal Stadium" (I have no experience with move reviews yet, so I started to write the same thing in the new RM on that page).

I disagree with your claim that there is a consensus that is a commonly used name in English. Apart from the proposer, no one has claimed this – one supporter just said that is it more recognisable thant the current name, and one supporter argumented that English name is a standard for stadiums (which I refuted). No one has presented evidence for the statement that the suggested name is the most common or most understandable name. I suggested other names for the page that meet the supporter's request for the move, yet the page was moved to the name suggested by the original proposer. I think closing the discussion was premature and reasoning inaccurate.

I don't know if a possible move review is necessary (the new RM could serve its purpose), but one of the discussants is asking for a speedy close and asks me to deal with it through move review. FromCzech (talk) 09:55, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello @FromCzech: and thanks for your query. Procedurally, talking to me first and then seeking a move review is the right approach. It's rarely appropriate to start a brand new RM immediately after the previous one closed with consensus, unless the first close was something like WP:NOGOODOPTIONS and editors want to explore in more depth between two possible names that weren't the original status quo. Otherwise, the correct course is to review or reopen the original discussion.
In this case the consensus appeared clear and I had closed it that way, there isn't really scope for a brand new RM, so approaching me rather than starting a new RM was the way forward. Since you've now done that, I am prepared to relist the discussion for a further week, since it does seem like there's more to dicuss and we want a settled consensus rather than something disputed. I'll reopen the discussion and close your new one now. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 10:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for quick response! FromCzech (talk) 11:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

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Request for final decision on "Białystok Municipal Stadium" article title

Hi Amakuru, I kindly ask you to revisit the discussion on the title of Białystok Municipal Stadium. You previously moved the article under this name, recognizing it as the most appropriate and consistent with Misplaced Pages's conventions. However, after vacating that decision and relisting, I have provided additional reasoning addressing misconceptions and counterarguments raised by FromCzech. To summarize: "Stadion Miejski" is not a proper noun but a generic, descriptive term meaning "Municipal Stadium." This naming convention is used generically across Poland and does not denote uniqueness, as seen in other cities like Kraków or Poznań. Translating it into English ensures clarity for a global audience and aligns with established practices, as evidenced by stadiums like "Kazimierz Górski Stadium" and "Wrocław Stadium." Retaining the Polish term would obscure the meaning and set a problematic precedent for similar descriptive names. Examples from other countries further support translating generic terms for accessibility and consistency. The "Chorten Arena" sponsorship name remains secondary and is not a viable contender for the primary title. Given the weight of these arguments and prior support for the move, I hope you will reach a final decision to restore the English title, Białystok Municipal Stadium, maintaining the same rationale that initially justified your move. Thank you for considering this request. Paradygmaty (talk) 22:17, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

I wanted to bring to your attention my comment on the discussion page regarding the proposed move. A key point is that even the official website of the stadium refers to it in English as "Municipal Stadium", not "Chorten Arena." You can see this directly here: Municipal Stadium in Białystok. I believe this evidence strongly supports the move to "Białystok Municipal Stadium" as the more accurate and neutral title. Paradygmaty (talk) 09:09, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Palestine-Israel articles 5 arbitration case opened

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Old Cities

Hi Amakuru, I added some curated summaries of the cities' histories to the two Old City DYKs. I quite enjoyed writing them. Did they address your comments adequately? Onceinawhile (talk) 10:06, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Amakuru, please could you have a quick look before it is timed out? Onceinawhile (talk) 22:55, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Please be more careful

You made the same mistake twice here and here. Do not repeat that. Taivorist (talk) 19:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Musk v. Altman

Hello Amakuru. Musk's suit against Altman/OpenAI/others has gotten continued coverage since the deletion discussion in early March: Bloomberg, The Guardian. It was detailed in a major piece on Musk in the Wall Street Journal yesterday . I think the case easily meets GNG now. Would it be possible for you to put it back into article space? You are welcome to nominate it for deletion if you don't think it meets notability guidelines. Thriley (talk) 13:37, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Picture of the day, 23 June 2025

Thanks for the message about this: Template:POTD/2025-06-23. Do you need a squib? It could be:

Does it need to be cut? If so, by how much? -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:15, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

@Ssilvers: thanks for the message and sorry for the delay - happy new year to you! That blurb looks great, and importantly I think it's fully referenced to reliable sources from the prose in the article too. Feel free to copy that into the template. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 09:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

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December music

story · music · places

Today's story comes from a DYK about a concert that fascinated me, and you can listen! For my taste, the hook has too little music - I miss the unusual scoring and the specific dedication - but it comes instead with a name good for viewcount. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Today: listen to Sequenza XIV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:21, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Nice listening, it's been a busy week so glad to have a bit of fun of relaxation! Wishing you a good Sunday  — Amakuru (talk) 23:41, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, - we sang in choirs today. - On the Main page Jean Sibelius on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's Fifth from the opening of Notre-Dame de Paris concert. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:41, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Listen today to the (new) Perplexities after Escher --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:20, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for all of this! Will listen again to the fifth from Notre Dame, it's a definite favourite, we played it a few years ago.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:28, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Listen today to Beethoven's 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the 2020 DYK set when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with Antônio Meneses, because he was on my sad list this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:03, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
I come to fix the cellist's name, with a 10-years-old DYK and new pics - look for red birds --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:44, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Today it's another great woman, soprano Sigrid Kehl, and I found a 1963 Christmas Oratorio detail. 10 years earlier than that cycle, Bach wrote seven cantatas for the 1724 season, based on seven songs, - my focus this year. Expect three stories for the three days they celebrated in Leipzig ;) - Enjoy the season! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Thank you! We had a requiem mass for one of my relatives yesterday, who sadly passed away recently, with some lovely music including Ave Maria (Schubert). Glad to hear the update regarding Kehl and the cantatas. Wishing you and yours a fantastic Christmas season ahead.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for sharing, also the sad news. As it happens, today is the birthday of my friend, the widow of Ury who died, who celebrates with mother, daughter, son-in-law and granddaughter. Believe it or not, but that Ave verum was her choice of a song for me (which is why I list it among the December songs on my talk.) I just updated what we'll perform tonight, - the choral pieces are those with a composer (besides the postlude). Enjoy! - Don't miss listening to the yt in my story. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
My first Christmas story is about Gelobet seist du, Jesu Christ, BWV 91, 300 years today, and its song, 500 years old. Enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:30, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: thank you, I have enjoyed that. I hope your festive season has been a good one.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Palestine-Israel articles 5 updates

You are receiving this message because you are on the update list for Palestine-Israel articles 5. The drafters note that the scope of the case was somewhat unclear, and clarify that the scope is The interaction of named parties in the WP:PIA topic area and examination of the WP:AE process that led to two referrals to WP:ARCA. Because this was unclear, two changes are being made:

First, the Committee will accept submissions for new parties for the next three days, until 23:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC). Anyone who wishes to suggest a party to the case may do so by creating a new section on the evidence talk page, providing a reason with WP:DIFFS as to why the user should be added, and notifying the user. After the three-day period ends, no further submission of parties will be considered except in exceptional circumstances. Because the Committee only hears disputes that have failed to be resolved by the usual means, proposed parties should have been recently taken to AE/AN/ANI, and either not sanctioned, or incompletely sanctioned. If a proposed party has not been taken to AE/AN/ANI, evidence is needed as to why such an attempt would have been ineffective.

Second, the evidence phase has been extended by a week, and will now close at 23:59, 21 December 2024 (UTC). For the Arbitration Committee, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Timeline of the United States intervention in the Syrian civil war

What do you mean by "restore status quo name WP:RMUM"? It's move after the United States article. You wouldn't use FR instead of France or IT instead of Italy etc. The United States are also a country with own name. Eurohunter (talk) 21:41, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

@Eurohunter: hello and thanks for your note. Well, firstly the text you quote above is self-explanatory - you did a WP:BOLD move on the page and I reverted you remove as per the procedure outlined at WP:RMUM. Any potentially controversial move is subject to being reverted and it's then up to you and others to start a formal requested move discussion if you wish to proceed. Secondly, on the merits of the move itself, using "US" (or sometimes "U.S.") as a shorthand for the United States is vastly more common than using "FR" or "IT" would be. There are numerous examples across the project such as US Senate career of Barack Obama, US missile defense system in Asia-Pacific Region, U.S. state etc. where it makes the title more concise to shorten it. The title "Timeline of the United States intervention in the Syrian civil war" is already very long and it seems helpful for readers to make it shorter where we can by using the very well-known abbreviation. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 22:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Question

Hey, @Amakuru. Could you take a look at File:Giuseppe Arcimboldo - Four Seasons in One Head - Google Art Project.jpg and tell me if it's fine to schedule it? One of the articles that it is in, Synesthesia in art, contained parenthetical referencing which I don't know if that makes it main page material or not and the artist page is just littered with cns and tags. Thanks, Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 21:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Cowboygilbert: thanks for the query, and I've got to be honest - I'm not really sure why this work doesn't have a page of its own... it doesn't really seem like either of the two articles where it currently appears really do it much justice in terms of covering any sort of detail on it, and it is surely a notable work of art in its own right (it's somewhat similar to The Four Seasons (Arcimboldo) but later and combining all seasons into one; it's also covered in sources such as and doubtless others so shouldn't be too hard to construct something. Personally, given the state of the two other articles - one using deprecated parenthetical referencing and the other very badly sourced, I'd recommend holding off until such time as we can get an article together. But I suppose if you can construct something with what we've got and it's relevant to the painting and cited then I wouldn't entirely object. On another note, I'm always on the look out for things we can put up as little "jokes" on April Fools' Day (see Template:POTD/2025-04-01 for next year, and Template:POTD/2019-04-01 for a particular favourite of mine) so it we could maybe get it up to scratch by 1 April 2026 and then construct a blurb that's a little jokey while also describing the work accurately, that might be a nice date to use . Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 21:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't usually create articles that aren't related to pop culture lol. I'll toss it in /Unused and say that {{sources exist}} and it could be a separate article. I'll try to look out for an April Fools image though! Thanks, Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 22:05, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
I did find the newly promoted FP and it might be perfect for April Fools! File:Albert Einstein sticks his tongue.jpg Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 22:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
@Cowboygilbert: ha ha, yes, go for it!  — Amakuru (talk) 22:34, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

"Stafford station" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Fishes

Thank you for moving the articles I requested. In biology a taxon may have more than one scientific name but an author is expected to choose a name and stick to it. WP:Fishes project has agreed to use Eschmeyer's Catalog of Fishes as the guide to the taxonomy, including specific names. This means that if the article title is a scientific name then it should be the "correct" name, i.e. that used by ECoF, so I don't see how the article titles policy is being circumvented. Nun galileus is used because the genus name on its own would need disambiguation. Quetzal1964 (talk) 14:17, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

@Quetzal1964: yeah, thanks for the note and as I said, I'll not oppose these and I can certainly see the advantage of using a consistent approach to naming. My main concern was with respect to the WP:COMMONNAME aspect of the titling policy. From a brief look around it did appear like Oxynoemacheilus galilaeus was being used by a lot more different sources than Nun galileus. Some may be out-of-date of course, in which case a WP:NAMECHANGES situation is in play; what I mean is that in general I'm wary of relying on one source while avoiding larger usage in others, but in this specialised case it may be justified, and the WikiProject discussion seems to suggest editors are happy with that approach. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 14:24, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings!

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Priestess

Then I would suggest proposing Priestess (religious honorific) for deletion. There's no point in redirecting priestess to priest and also having this article. I would, incidentally, have no problem with its deletion, but currently information is duplicated. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

@Necrothesp: I agree that there's little value in that page. It is very short and the content that's there could easily be merged and covered in Priest. Be that as it may, however, there's no justification for end-arounding the recent RFD discussion which concluded there was no consensus to change the redirect at Priestess. Cheers and happy Christmas.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:32, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
I was not aware of that RfD! However, I would respectfully point out that it appears to have been over a different issue. -- Necrothesp (talk) 23:04, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

Hello there, 'tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! A big thank you for all of your contributions to Misplaced Pages in 2024! Wishing you a Very happy and productive 2025!  ♦ Maliner (talk) 17:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
@Maliner: many thanks, and very kind of you to send this to me. Wishing you and yours a joyful Christmas and a great 2025.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:33, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

OTD issue for 1987 Forsyth County protests

I received a notification this morning regarding an OTD issue related to the 1987 Forsyth County protests article that I wrote a while back. After looking through the edit logs for Misplaced Pages:Selected anniversaries/December 24, the only conclusion I can come to is that I mixed up the dates, putting the event under December 24 instead of January 24. It was an unfortunate oversight on my part. As I'm not too experienced with OTD matters, I wasn't sure where to send this response, but I nonetheless wanted to apologize for any issues that may have caused with the process. Thanks, -JJonahJackalope (talk) 12:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@JJonahJackalope: no worries at all, mistakes happen... I was only worried in case there was some actual event that took place on 24 December that I was missing. Thanks for your contributions to the project, and wishing you a happy festive season.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!!!!!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

Hello Amakuru, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025.
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@Jerium: many thanks! Wishing you and yours a wonderful holiday season as well  — Amakuru (talk) 15:21, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

User page works

Psssst, I'm not sure if you ever thought to update it, but all of the works under your football section which use "Final" in the title link to redirects. I probably notice this stuff more than others based on the CSS I use to indicate when pages are redirects, which displays them in green. Also, the GA link for King's Cross Thameslink station is also a redirect. Not at all a big deal! But I personally like to bypass redirects when showing off my work and figured, hey, how often do people click their promoted content from their own user page? Hey man im josh (talk) 18:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Hey man im josh: ooh thanks, that's a good point. As you've guessed I hadn't notified this and can barely remember what's on the user page anyway. I'm in the middle of things right now but will update it to lowercase when I get the chance. Or you can feel free if you want to do it! Cheers, and wishing you a great festive season.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Sure no problem, bypassed those redirects for you. Oh, and also, if you are interested in having redirects highlighted and italized like I am (which I recognize not everyone is), the relevant code is at my css page. I hope you have a wonderful holiday season as well! Hey man im josh (talk) 18:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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January music

story · music · places

Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw a lovely opera by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see here. Christmas was also great. How about you? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Liebster Immanuel, Herzog der Frommen, BWV 123, my story today 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. Dada Masilo will be my story tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. - Did you see Masilo talking and dancing? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi Gerda Arendt and a very happy new year to you! I haven't seen the Masilo thing yet, but will take a look now... I've been in the New Forest on a bit of a family break... will upload some pics later. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 09:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

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Question about Erik

Thanks for closing Talk:Erik XIV of Sweden#Requested move 18 December 2024. What did you determine as the consensus regarding Eric XII of Sweden? A minimal closing statement Moved usually implies that the move was made according to the request, or that the target is otherwise transparent from the discussion. In this case the requested target was Erik Magnusson, King of Sweden, and there was also some support for the alternative Erik XII Magnusson, but the article was moved to Erik XII of Sweden, which was not mentioned in the discussion. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 17:03, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

@Jähmefyysikko: apologies, that was an oversight on my part. I thought that the RM was only asking about switching Eric to Erik, I missed the complication over Erik XII. I've now Moved it as you proposed.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks! Jähmefyysikko (talk) 18:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)