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== Mallika Sherawat ==
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I somehow agree with what you say on Mallika Sherawat's page. First of all, don't get too fascinated by reverting others' work. You had removed the reference I've added. First of all, Rediff.com is the most reliable and unbiased Indian site on the net (you said it's a gossip magazine, quite strange to hear that). Secondly, sex symbol is not a peacock, and see ] for evidence.
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You wrote: ''"Find a source for your claims. Inserting unsourced personal opinions is not in accordance with what Misplaced Pages stands for"''. But there is a source, the Folkting link! And why does it matter whether it is the first or the third sentence? During the Swedish rule in Finland (12th or 13th century until 1809) Swedish was the language of the state affairs and the nobility (at least from the New Age), it was the only official language. Because of this many Finns who wanted to climb the social ladder changed their language to Swedish. Civil servants worked in Swedish, so language change was a must for many. --] 15:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


Regarding the writing tone, I do agree with you. Therefore, I've rewritten it and toned it down. Thanks for the help. Best regards, ] • <sup>'']''</sup>
:It's true that some Finns changed their language to Swedish during the Swedish rule and that some Swedes changed their language to Finnish during the end of the Russian rule. That a significant proportion of both language groups have an ancestry that partially lies within the other language group is obvious. What I take issue with is claiming that the origin of Finland-Swedes is ''mainly'' due to Finns changing language. That is not the case, at least I've never found any source claiming that. ] 15:36, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
::I would say that this section in fi.wiki supports that: http://fi.wikipedia.org/Suomenruotsalaiset#Suomenruotsalaisten_alkuper.C3.A4 It mentions the Swedish immigrants in the Middle Ages, but seemingly puts more value on the language change (notice the word ''kuitenkin'' - however). --] 15:44, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


== RFC ==
:::Proving one thing in Misplaced Pages just with another section of Misplaced Pages does not correspond to external sources. That paragraph does not say that Finland-Swedish ancestry is ''mainly'' due to language change. Even if it did, that would not be an external source. ] 19:25, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
::::It does ''imply'' it, since it talks mainly about language change, only briefly mentioning immigrants from Sweden. --] 15:09, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


== Conventions Being Violated. ==
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== Organic Agriculture Redirect Page ==
Thanks for your comments on my page regarding Finnish people. The other user clearly has some agenda and is not only rude, but not acting in the spirit of Misplaced Pages. He speaks of me using non-sense, but himself uses compeltely unreferenced claims and his own very controversial POV. Not only this, his personal attacks aren't that welcome either and I will report him to the admin. if it continues in such a manner. Thanks anyway and its always good too see more Christians on Misplaced Pages, ciao. ] 21:09, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
:You are a lie spreading , anti-Finnish agenda pushing person who knows virtually nothing about Finnic peoples. I will speak my mind, I have a one month block in Finnish Misplaced Pages for critisizing the ] users there, so I don't mind going down fighting against Finn-haters here as well. --] 15:27, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


Thank you for helping me as I work out how this system works.
::I see no reason why Epf would be anti-Finnish or a Finn-hater and I attribute those comments to your lack of perspective. Once again, you have to accept that people can disagree with you. Whenever someone goes against your personal opinions, you answer with abuses instead of engaging in a civilised discussion. It's not gaining you any credibility. Further insults by you on this page will be deleted, but you're always welcome to make constructive comments both here and elsewhere. ] 10:04, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
I am trying to update and enrich sections of Misplaced Pages which are related to my organization IFOAM the International Federation of Organic Agriculture www.ifoam.org. We are the Umbrella Organization for Organic Agriculture and have an official definition for Organic Agriculture which I am charged with advertising on Misplaced Pages.


'''The IFOAM official definition:'''
== Majorities and minorities in info boxes ==
'Organic agriculture is a production system that sustains the health of soils, ecosystems and people. It relies on ecological processes, biodiversity and cycles adapted to local conditions, rather than the use of inputs with adverse effects. Organic agriculture combines tradition, innovation and science to benefit the shared environment and promote fair relationships and a good quality of life for all involved.'


I understand that things which are posted on wikipedia will be 'mercilessly edited' and that is fine. The issue is that we represent 'Organic Agriculture' It would be advantageous for us to find a way to have a wiki page for 'organic agriculture' rather than 'organic farming' ..
You claimed that no other people article mentions them in the info box, but in the ] it does say ''"87% of Sweden is composed of Lutherans"''. Are you going to remove it too? And why should the box not contain that important information? People might take one look at the article and think that there are about as many Finnish and Swedish speakers and Lutherans and Orthodoxes. --] 18:34, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


== Re: Name of Iron Gate in several languages ==
:I don't mind, I just think we should be consistent. If you want to have it in, I'd suggest you give the acutal percentages within brackets instead of saying 'small minority'. It's both more informative and looks better. ] 18:37, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
::To my recollection I put it in percentages first, but you deleted it... Aiotko poistaa maininnan luterilaisten ruotsalaisten osuudesta väestössä artikkelissa ], vai et? --] 18:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


I guess it is there in so many languages (though the reason for the Slovakian version I don't understand that much either) because of the following reasons:
:::Right you are, although that was because you only gave percentages for the languages, not for the religions, making it seem like a targeting of ] Insert percentages for all four groups if you want, I won't touch them. En, en aio poistaa sitä ruotsalaisten artikkelista mutta minun mielestäni artikkeli olisi kyllä siistimpi ilman sitä. ] 18:51, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
1) the Danube used to be a very important '''international''' shippnig route throughout history, and this point used to be particularly important.
::::Tehty (prosentit vuoden 2005 tilastojen mukaan). --] 19:11, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
2) This region now belongs to Serbia and Romania, you are right, but it '''used to belong to several different countries in the past''', just like Голубац/Golubac = Taubenberg (German --> Austro-Hungary) = Gögerdsinlik (Turkish)= Galambóc (Hungarian), that used to belong to Serbs, Turks, Hungarians and the rulers changed quite often.] (]) 13:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)


I was trying to find out whether the place is called "Iron Gate" or "Iron Gates" in English. Unfortunately, the article keeps the confusion going by being headed "Iron Gate" (singular) and then continuing to talk about "Iron Gates" (plural). Then there's the incorrect statement that the Romanian and German names for the place both mean "Iron Gates" (plural). The Romanian name "Porţile de Fier" does mean "the Iron Gates", but the German name "Eisernes Tor" means "Iron Gate" in the singular. I think the Hungarian name "Vaskapu" is also singular, otherwise it would probably end in "-k".
:::::Ok, tein vaan pikkusen muutoksen niin että näyttää paremmalta, tekstiä ei tarvita.
In short, this article is still very confusing, and makes me wonder how much of the other information in it is correct. For instance, do the Germans really just call the place "Eisernes Tor"? You'd expect the definite article, and then it would be "das Eiserne Tor" (so it isn't just a matter of adding "das" - the ending on the adjective also changes). The Romanian name does include the definite article (the ending "-le"). Bulgarian and Hungarian also have definite articles (the ending "-тe"/"-te" on the adjective and the word "a" respectively), and both are missing from the names given here. The fact that the Dutch word "nederzettingen" (settlements) was originally translated as though it read "bezettingen" (occupations) raises even more doubts in my mind about the reliability of the article.
I'm not proposing to correct the article myself - I don't have the expertise, except as regards translation from Dutch and other languages to native English (that's what I do for a living) - but as a user I hope someone who does can clear all this up.] (]) 11:34, 6 June 2010 (UTC)


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Is it you, Litany? --] 18:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


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:No, sorry. Never heard about anybody by that name. This is the only name I'm using on Misplaced Pages. ] 19:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
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Per your request I have re-introduced Tajik's comments in their entirety. This was not a personal attack on Tajik, but a summary of what Tajik had said. You added a NPA warning to my page, when no one ever asks Tajik to stop personally attacking other users, especially Turks and Pashtuns.


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But no administrator ever calls Tajik to task no matter how outrageous his behavior--and he is continued to allow to flame, call other users racists, not support his arguments, do anything he wants to in creating a hostile atmosphere at Misplaced Pages for Turks and Pashtuns.


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He can ask an administrator to block a user for calling him a Nazi, and a couple of administrators jump to the task. Yet he calls me Taliban supporter, much worse than a Nazi for an Afghan, and nothing.
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:I'm not familiar with the user so I can't comment on his actions. The point here is that possible wrong-doings by other users does not grant any of us the right to do wrong in return. If you feel that you have been attacked, I understand that you are frustrated although it still does not justify attacking others. I'm glad to hear that you edited the part I commented upon. However, you had no right to remove the warning I had put on your page, but I'll put that down as inexperience and not bother about it. Just remember it for the future. ] 21:21, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

::Why can't I remove the warning? It's my talk page. And Tajik simply removes them from his talk page, and no one tells him he can't do that.

::And, again, I did NOT attack him, I simply abbreviated his attack on me, I didn't make anything up, it's all there, even worse than my abbreviated from. How can you not know Tajik? His are the racist words posted on my talk page, that you forced me to put back on my talk page.

::So Tajik can call me a racist, and Taliban-supporter, and that is NOT an attack, but if I abbreviate what he wrote, accurately saying what he said, I'm personally attacking him? How is that? They're his words, not mine.

::Again, Misplaced Pages dispute resolutions should certainly come with a warning: don't waste your time, because more experienced users will simply effectively attack and harass and bully you while you're doing so, via administrator-fishing. What a horrendously unfair double standard. Tajik can post the comments ABOUT ME, but the same comments, if altered by me in the least bit, are a personal attack against him. That's outrageous.

::But there you go, I've put it back up, Tajik calling me a racist left and right, because, after all, I wouldn't want to violate any Misplaced Pages policies about allowing other editors to personally attack me. What an incredible waste of time, too.

::No matter what I do, Tajik will relentlessly continue harassing me with the assitance of administrators like you, who say that Tajik's words are not a personal attack when said by him, but are one when quoted by me.

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== Moving ] to ] ==
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:Thank you for your comment, both advices are very good and I will follow them in the future. Thanks again! ] 11:22, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

Sorry for the Treaty of Fredrikshamn revert, I was looking at Jaakko's edit, went away for a while and returned and reverted, I didn't notice that you had been there.--] 23:45, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

:No problem, I guessed that might have been the case. I'm getting quite tired of the same pages being vandalised by the same user over and over again, guess I'm not the only one.] 23:48, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

::Yes, he's doing the same in svwiki, fiwiki and wikiquote too...] 23:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

:::Really? Well, I'm not surprised to hear it. One apparent flaw in Misplaced Pages policies is that a block in one language isn't carried over to the other versions.] 23:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Tässä joitain hyvä vitsejä sinulle. --] 06:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

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Mallika Sherawat

Hello!

I somehow agree with what you say on Mallika Sherawat's page. First of all, don't get too fascinated by reverting others' work. You had removed the reference I've added. First of all, Rediff.com is the most reliable and unbiased Indian site on the net (you said it's a gossip magazine, quite strange to hear that). Secondly, sex symbol is not a peacock, and see WP:PEACOCK for evidence.

Regarding the writing tone, I do agree with you. Therefore, I've rewritten it and toned it down. Thanks for the help. Best regards, Shahid

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Organic Agriculture Redirect Page

Thank you for helping me as I work out how this system works. I am trying to update and enrich sections of Misplaced Pages which are related to my organization IFOAM the International Federation of Organic Agriculture www.ifoam.org. We are the Umbrella Organization for Organic Agriculture and have an official definition for Organic Agriculture which I am charged with advertising on Misplaced Pages.

The IFOAM official definition: 'Organic agriculture is a production system that sustains the health of soils, ecosystems and people. It relies on ecological processes, biodiversity and cycles adapted to local conditions, rather than the use of inputs with adverse effects. Organic agriculture combines tradition, innovation and science to benefit the shared environment and promote fair relationships and a good quality of life for all involved.'

I understand that things which are posted on wikipedia will be 'mercilessly edited' and that is fine. The issue is that we represent 'Organic Agriculture' It would be advantageous for us to find a way to have a wiki page for 'organic agriculture' rather than 'organic farming' ..

Re: Name of Iron Gate in several languages

I guess it is there in so many languages (though the reason for the Slovakian version I don't understand that much either) because of the following reasons: 1) the Danube used to be a very important international shippnig route throughout history, and this point used to be particularly important. 2) This region now belongs to Serbia and Romania, you are right, but it used to belong to several different countries in the past, just like Голубац/Golubac = Taubenberg (German --> Austro-Hungary) = Gögerdsinlik (Turkish)= Galambóc (Hungarian), that used to belong to Serbs, Turks, Hungarians and the rulers changed quite often.Myrmeleon formicarius (talk) 13:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

I was trying to find out whether the place is called "Iron Gate" or "Iron Gates" in English. Unfortunately, the article keeps the confusion going by being headed "Iron Gate" (singular) and then continuing to talk about "Iron Gates" (plural). Then there's the incorrect statement that the Romanian and German names for the place both mean "Iron Gates" (plural). The Romanian name "Porţile de Fier" does mean "the Iron Gates", but the German name "Eisernes Tor" means "Iron Gate" in the singular. I think the Hungarian name "Vaskapu" is also singular, otherwise it would probably end in "-k". In short, this article is still very confusing, and makes me wonder how much of the other information in it is correct. For instance, do the Germans really just call the place "Eisernes Tor"? You'd expect the definite article, and then it would be "das Eiserne Tor" (so it isn't just a matter of adding "das" - the ending on the adjective also changes). The Romanian name does include the definite article (the ending "-le"). Bulgarian and Hungarian also have definite articles (the ending "-тe"/"-te" on the adjective and the word "a" respectively), and both are missing from the names given here. The fact that the Dutch word "nederzettingen" (settlements) was originally translated as though it read "bezettingen" (occupations) raises even more doubts in my mind about the reliability of the article. I'm not proposing to correct the article myself - I don't have the expertise, except as regards translation from Dutch and other languages to native English (that's what I do for a living) - but as a user I hope someone who does can clear all this up.212.238.222.19 (talk) 11:34, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

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