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	== According to recent studies ==

	{{Ping\|Dmaty63}} I'm reverting your addition of "Although according to studies, gun control would not work due to the 100 million guns currently in circulation. It would take too long to get most of them, so the US would take too long to restrict gun policies. This is according to recent studies."

	# You need to cite the "recent studies".
	# Your comments are excessively vague. For example, why would it matter how many guns are currently in circulation? And what do you mean, "It would take too long"?

	] (]) 23:09, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

	== Replying to your comment ==

	@DavidMCEddy I’m sorry that I couldn’t sore the research. There are in fact 100 million guns in circulation, which would destroy the whole idea of gun control in the United States. If we were to control guns in the US, it would take years to fully control guns in the USA. You have to realize that this site is for pure editing purposes and facts. People want to know how or even if we can institute gun control. ] (]) 00:00, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

			I recently created ], a gun control nonprofit. Any help finding sources would be appreciated! ] (]) 01:47, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
	:{{Ping\|Dmaty63}} I agree that the number of guns in circulation in the US is large and is a problem. I also agree that it will take years to "fully control guns in the USA." I further agree that Misplaced Pages is for facts. In particular, Misplaced Pages policy requires editors to ] Misplaced Pages is NOT for advocacy.
	:I believe that one of the biggest problem driving the large number of guns in circulation in the US today is the common belief that the US got freedom and democracy, liberty and justice for all from the violence of the American Revolution. In ], I document my claim that it didn't happen that way.
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	== ~~Citations~~ ~~-- The Atlantic~~ ==		== Request edit ==

			Adding information regarding public health dimension of gun legislation. ] (]) 22:20, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
	I noticed that 'The Atlantic' is cited as evidence 3 times in the article. Given that this is a more of a American political magazine rather than research or a verified source of facts, should this source be used to cite information under general the "studies" section of the article? ] (]) 03:06, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

			It might be helpful to add a section titled "Public Health" to reference a 2022 correspondence between researchers at the. University of Michigan and the New England Journal of Medicine which states that "generational investments are being made in the prevention of firearm violence, including new funding opportunities from the CDC and the National Institutes of Health." The correspondence refers to "funding for the prevention of community violence (that) has been proposed in federal infrastructure legislation" and the researchers emphasize the significance of such policy measures as a preventative public health solution in light of data indicating rising child mortality as a result of firearm related incidents, citing statistical evidence of firearm-related deaths replacing motor vehicle accidents as the leading cause of child mortality in 2020.
	:{{Re\|Seanjaelee}} Yes. In fact, on Misplaced Pages, citing a magazine article about research is preferable to citing the research itself. "Misplaced Pages articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources." For a full explanation of this, see ]. <span style="font-family: cursive;">— ]<small><sup> (])</sup></small></span> 11:18, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
	::{{Re\|Mudwater}} I understand that policy, but I think the the judgment of which "secondary sources" are "reliable" and even maybe "published" can sometimes be contested. I'd like also to see the primary source as well as the secondary that mentions it. I say that, because sometimes the primary source doesn't exist, or is a blatant fraud or is misrepresented. The role of ] (and others like her) in stampeding the "Coalition of the Willing" into invading Iraq in 2003 comes to mind. ] (]) 14:52, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

			Would this information be a helpful addition? The source is at the URL: https://doi.org/10.1056%2FNEJMc2201761. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:26, 8 April 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	== Studies -> United States ==

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	I just added some info and a supporting cite to this section. In doing that, I noticed that all of the studies in the ''Cross-sectional studies'' section seem to be specifically about gun control. The study which I added info about is about the relationship between firearm ownership and violent crime, not specifically about gun control. I noticed this while trying to reorganize the run-on paragraph in that section of the article into a bulleted chronological list, so I abandoned that reorganization and just left the info on that study where I had added it. Improve this as may be appropriate. ] ] <small>(earlier ''Boracay Bill'')</small> 19:56, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
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			<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by ] (]) 17:18, 4 October 2023 (UTC)</span>
	:Since the article is specifically about gun control, then it is not unexpected that all of the studies included are regarding gun control. The study you added is not about specific gun control initiatives or legislation, so it's not appropriate to the article - for the reason I described. I've removed it. ] (]) 20:06, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
	:I agree, however, that the oversized paragraph with all the study info badly needs reworking into manageable paragraphs. Dunno if I'll be able to get to it today though. ] (]) 20:15, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

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	gun control we need it but we dont hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe ] (]) 15:38, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

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Adding information regarding public health dimension of gun legislation. Bcapdevi (talk) 22:20, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

It might be helpful to add a section titled "Public Health" to reference a 2022 correspondence between researchers at the. University of Michigan and the New England Journal of Medicine which states that "generational investments are being made in the prevention of firearm violence, including new funding opportunities from the CDC and the National Institutes of Health." The correspondence refers to "funding for the prevention of community violence (that) has been proposed in federal infrastructure legislation" and the researchers emphasize the significance of such policy measures as a preventative public health solution in light of data indicating rising child mortality as a result of firearm related incidents, citing statistical evidence of firearm-related deaths replacing motor vehicle accidents as the leading cause of child mortality in 2020.

Would this information be a helpful addition? The source is at the URL: https://doi.org/10.1056%2FNEJMc2201761. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bcapdevi (talk • contribs) 22:26, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

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