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==Contributors welcome==
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If you're interested in writing about community news for The Misplaced Pages Signpost, please contact me (on my talk page or via email, however you prefer) so we can coordinate our efforts. As editor, I would at the very least need to have an idea of what topic(s) you're covering. If you use the wiki to write drafts of a news story, please do this in your user space. --] 09:29, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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== Vandalism Removal ==
==What about ]?==
Will this duplicate what ] is supposed to do? Is there a need to have both? ]] 19:40, Jan 10, 2005 (UTC)


I've just found out that an IP ] me and another user from the list last month. Could we do something to prevent that? Thanks ] (]) 14:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
:It probably does occupy much the same arena, but it's rather a different approach, particularly in providing prose instead of just links. Goings-on has increasingly deteriorated from the initial efforts, which were decently useful. Nowadays I think the people who still follow it must be disappointed with how little is there when they check. Anyway, I felt the concept needed to be reinvented rather than repaired.
:{{Ping|JPxG}} should be easy for an admin to change page privileges?? ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">]</span> (]) 19:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
::Yeah, this is cooked. I do not see a single IP subscription in this whole list, which suggests there is no reason to not have it semiprotected -- have also taken the liberty of TE-move protecting it because inb4onwheels. <b style="font-family:monospace;color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 22:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)


== Writer Request ==
:I don't think both are needed, but I wasn't going to try to absorb Goings-on without establishing that this format is useful to people. If nobody objects, I suppose it can be redirected here instead after a little while. --] 20:45, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)


I would like to help write stories for the Signpost as a official writer. Would that be possible. ] (]) 02:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
::I agree, but the advantage of goings-on is that it is just one page. Will people still be able to get a sense of what is going on from just reading the headlines here? Perhaps that needs to be kept in mind when choosing the headlines so people who don't want to click the links can still remain reasonably informed. ]] 03:35, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)


:Write something good and submit it. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Voilà! ] (]) 03:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:::If I have more time, in future issues I might try to put brief summaries below the headlines to improve that. I think the objective is to give enough information for people to figure out whether they want to know more, not to give so much information that there's nothing to be gained by following the link. Getting everything on one page is a hopeless proposition here. --] 04:14, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)


== Last (12-12-24) issue was not announced ==
::Goings on has been slowing down a bit. Once the signpost is established, most of the content of goings-on could be made into a column, a sort of police blotter with the new admins and such. If that was to be done, there would have to be a formal spot for ongoing contributions, not individual's user spaces as you mention above. {{User:Brockert/sig}} 01:05, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)


Or at least, not through MassMessage. Was that intentional? — ] ] 15:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:::For smaller bits of information, rather than people working on drafts of articles, it would probably make sense to set up a place where people just leave a note about some particular news item, like new admins. Then the reporters can work it into articles for publication. How about ]? --] 03:03, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
:@] it was announced, ]. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 15:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::Probably because I ask for it interwiki, at enws. Seems that all users of ] did not get it (). — ] ] 15:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)


== Reply button is not working ==
==Congratulations==
Congratulations. A great idea implemented well. Misplaced Pages has got to big to keep up with, without wasting too much time looking. I'd be interested in writing the occasional article. :] 20:13, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)


While readinga signpost i tried to reply to a comment showing below the page but the button gave me error said
:Congratulations from me as well. I expect to be an avid reader.-] 21:23, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
" Could not find the comment you're replying to on the page"
] (]) 09:39, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|R1F4T}} - try it now. If you are on the article page, click on the talk tab and then the "edit" or "+" links on the top line. This should work automatically every time, but I think sometimes for the first comment a bit of code gets accidentally removed in the prepublication process (and then it should be just like creating any other talk page). Maybe if the comment was removed while you were typing, you'd get messed up. Maybe if you are commenting on an old article, something different might be happening. ]<sub>(])</sub> <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added 19:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)</small>
::Very belatedly redoing ping to {{ping|R1F4T}} ... ] (]) 15:14, 15 January 2025 (UTC)


== Single-page edition is broken ==
::My congratulations too -- I really enjoy this, and look forward to seeing it develop. I'll keep my eyes open for things I can contribute. ]\<sup>]</sup> 07:37, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)


] is nearly empty, and ] shows the list of stories (slightly broken) but not the stories itself. {{ping|JPxG}} can you take a look? ] (]) <small>(please use ]!)</small> 08:07, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::: Congratulations from me too. I look forward to contributing sometimes. Are we to go all the way with a gossip column, small ads and a letters page??? ] 08:33, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)


:In bed but I think it is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-01-15/Op-ed -- throwing a ref error is what the single page says. Try <pre>intitle:"Signpost/2025-01-15" insource:/\<ref/</pre> to find ref tags in articles ? I would appreciatr someone helping eith this. <b style="font-family:monospace;color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 08:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Let me add to the chorus; I enjoyed reading this, and it was very well done. ] | ] 21:45, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
::ohhhh i bet its the CALCULATORS. well ok here are the pagesizes

::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/From the editors}} From the editors
==Images==
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Traffic report}} Traffic report
I think the images would look better in an antialiased form, rather than one bit representations they are now. {{User:Brockert/sig}} 01:05, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/In the media}} In the media

::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Technology report}} Technology report
:They're just thrown together on short notice with Paint and the best font I could come up with that had the suitable Gothic-typeface newspaper-masthead feel to it. I would be grateful to anyone who has the capability to improve them. --] 03:03, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Essay}} Essay

::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Opinion}} Opinion
== Remarks ==
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/News and notes}} News and notes

::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Serendipity}} Serendipity
Hello. I think such a newspaper on Misplaced Pages is very usefull (mostly for those who don't stick everyday on it but want to stay in touch with the project). I don't know how you will handle archives but it could be interesting to keep old articles somewhere. I would say that, for each link on articles in the main page, one should be able to know a little more on the article : when was it written and what it the real topic. Don't forget that wp is read by a worldwide audience and your English must be "simple" (I know, "simple" prose is harder to write, takes more time, but it worth the effort : it is often the way to write beautiful prose, here I don't criticise those clear and precise article bodies, but their headers, cause I had to follow links to ensure I understood the topic). One more : I often use the "status bar" to check what is linking to what, so I would like the articles' filenames not to be obscure acronyms. I guess a date of publication plus a keyword or two could be better. Anyway, nice idea and nice work. I'm often completely lost in what is "going-on" in wp, what are the major changes and events. Here, I will find this info. ] 05:15, 2005 Jan 11 (UTC)
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Op-ed}} Op-ed

::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/In focus}} In focus

::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Arbitration report}} Arbitration report
== Excellent work, Michael ==
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Humour}} Humour

::<b style="font-family:monospace;color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 08:28, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
When I saw the announcement of this project I was slightly sceptical that there was a niche for it. The depth and quality of your writing proved me completely wrong. I really like it (and not just because you chose to quote me in one of the articles :). Minor suggestions only-
:::Okay, God knows what is actually wrong -- I am severely in need of going back to bed -- but I have gotten some grotesque trailer-park hack to work so that people can, at least, read a working single-page edition for these first few hours. This should be diagnosed and fixed when I wake up. Thanks to {{ping|Tamzin}} for figuring out that just transclusing the articles directly worked... <b style="font-family:monospace;color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 08:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

::::Thank you! ] (]) <small>(please use ]!)</small> 09:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:When coming up with ideas of how best to integrate (if at all) goings-on and the signpost, please also consider the future of ] which itself has died off since goings-on got started.
::::Looks like the original version of the single page edition works now, but <code>Post‐expand include size: 2003573/2097152 bytes</code> is really close to the limit. You are probably right that the calculator examples take up quite a bit of that limit (The calculator article is 892980 / 2097152 bytes which is 43% of that limit). ] (]) 12:57, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Possibly unrelated to the above, I cleaned up some mismatched block and article start/end tags that were causing some of the articles to be too narrow in the single-page edition. A check for matching start/end templates could go on the publication checklist. – ] (]) 18:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:For maintenance purposes consider using a subpage of form SignPost/Issue Number X/Article title rather than the current SignPost/Article title.

] ] 12:21, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

:Yes, I've thought about what role the Announcements page might have as well. Brockert above mentioned the issue of ongoing things like new admins, which currently is hosted at Goings-on. I'm wondering if that kind of material (i.e. terse administrative announcements that don't really have a news story behind them) might be moved back to Announcements, while the Signpost takes over the news-report functionality from Goings-on, which could then be retired from service.

:A proper scheme for organizing and naming the subpages has yet to be determined, but I do anticipate archiving by each issue, possibly in a manner similar to your suggestion. --] 20:06, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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Vandalism Removal

I've just found out that an IP removed me and another user from the list last month. Could we do something to prevent that? Thanks Nobody (talk) 14:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

@JPxG: should be easy for an admin to change page privileges?? ☆ Bri (talk) 19:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, this is cooked. I do not see a single IP subscription in this whole list, which suggests there is no reason to not have it semiprotected -- have also taken the liberty of TE-move protecting it because inb4onwheels. jp×g🗯️ 22:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Writer Request

I would like to help write stories for the Signpost as a official writer. Would that be possible. WikiEditor5678910 (talk) 02:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Write something good and submit it. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Voilà! Carrite (talk) 03:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Last (12-12-24) issue was not announced

Or at least, not through MassMessage. Was that intentional? — Alien  3
3 3 15:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

@Alien333 it was announced, for me at least. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 15:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Probably because I ask for it interwiki, at enws. Seems that all users of the interwiki list did not get it (random example). — Alien  3
3 3 15:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Reply button is not working

While readinga signpost i tried to reply to a comment showing below the page but the button gave me error said " Could not find the comment you're replying to on the page" R1F4T (talk) 09:39, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

@R1F4T: - try it now. If you are on the article page, click on the talk tab and then the "edit" or "+" links on the top line. This should work automatically every time, but I think sometimes for the first comment a bit of code gets accidentally removed in the prepublication process (and then it should be just like creating any other talk page). Maybe if the comment was removed while you were typing, you'd get messed up. Maybe if you are commenting on an old article, something different might be happening. Smallbones(smalltalk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Very belatedly redoing ping to @R1F4T: ... Graham87 (talk) 15:14, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Single-page edition is broken

Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/Single/2025-01-15 is nearly empty, and Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/Single shows the list of stories (slightly broken) but not the stories itself. @JPxG: can you take a look? FunIsOptional (talk) (please use ping!) 08:07, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

In bed but I think it is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-01-15/Op-ed -- throwing a ref error is what the single page says. Try 
intitle:"Signpost/2025-01-15" insource:/\<ref/
to find ref tags in articles ? I would appreciatr someone helping eith this. jp×g🗯️ 08:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
ohhhh i bet its the CALCULATORS. well ok here are the pagesizes
  • 3,423 From the editors
  • 84,211 Traffic report
  • 18,148 In the media
  • 27,219 Technology report
  • 5,495 Essay
  • 8,006 Opinion
  • 16,051 News and notes
  • 11,154 Serendipity
  • 19,101 Op-ed
  • 16,376 In focus
  • 5,760 Arbitration report
  • 4,172 Humour
jp×g🗯️ 08:28, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Okay, God knows what is actually wrong -- I am severely in need of going back to bed -- but I have gotten some grotesque trailer-park hack to work so that people can, at least, read a working single-page edition for these first few hours. This should be diagnosed and fixed when I wake up. Thanks to @Tamzin: for figuring out that just transclusing the articles directly worked... jp×g🗯️ 08:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! FunIsOptional (talk) (please use ping!) 09:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Looks like the original version of the single page edition works now, but Post‐expand include size: 2003573/2097152 bytes is really close to the limit. You are probably right that the calculator examples take up quite a bit of that limit (The calculator article is 892980 / 2097152 bytes which is 43% of that limit). Bawolff (talk) 12:57, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Possibly unrelated to the above, I cleaned up some mismatched block and article start/end tags that were causing some of the articles to be too narrow in the single-page edition. A check for matching start/end templates could go on the publication checklist. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

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