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{{initiated|12 November 2019}} - discussion has died down. '''19''' votes on 12 November, '''20''' votes on 13 November, '''10''' votes on 14 November. Just 4 votes from 15 November to 22 November. Total vote count 53. ''']] (])''' 06:07, 17 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
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{{Initiated|22:57, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at at ]? Thanks, ] (]) 01:25, 22 September 2019 (UTC) | |||
*Archived without closure at ] --] (]) 02:42, 17 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
*{{tl|not done}} per above. Please revive the discussion to assess the consensus. --] (] • ]) 07:36, 28 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|22:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)}} Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. ] (]) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC) | ||
:Since the RfC is about the creation of an edit filter, I'm leaving a note at ] requesting that it be closed by an edit filter manager; it seems pretty clear that the consensus is for the creation of a filter, but such a decision could only be enacted by an efm. --] (]) 01:32, 15 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
*{{not done}} because it is an archived discussion. Please revive the discussion to assess the consensus. --] (] • ]) 07:38, 28 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
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{{Initiated|19:01, 6 November 2024 (UTC)}} RfC expired on 6 December 2024 . No new comments in over a week. ] (]) 15:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
*{{not done}} because it is an archived discussion. Please revive the discussion to assess the consensus. --] (] • ]) 07:39, 28 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
:*Withdrawn as {{not done}} since there is clearly no consensus in the discussion. ] (]) 08:55, 28 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
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{{Initiated|22:32, 23 September 2019 (UTC)}} Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ]? Thanks, ] (]) 08:51, 3 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
Clear consensus that the proposed edit (and its amended version) violate ]. However, the owning editor is engaging in ] behavior, repeatedly arguing against the consensus and dismissing others' rationale as not fitting his personal definition of synthesis; and is persistently assuming bad-faith, including . When finally challenged to give a direct quote from the source that supports the proposed edit, it was dismissed with "" and then The discussion is being driven into a ground by an editor who does not (nor wish to) understand consensus and can't be ] with any opposing argument supported by Misplaced Pages policy or guidelines. --] (]) 22:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|22:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)}} Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Can we please get an interdependent close. '']''<sup>]</sup> 23:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
{{Initiated|00:30, 18 October 2019 (UTC)}} Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ]? Thanks, ] (]) 05:35, 17 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
:{{a note}} Ongoing discussion, please wait a week or two. ] (]) 14:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I cannot close this as I participated in the discussion. No clue as to how any closer will handle the consensus (if any) in the workshop section. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif">] (] <span style="color:#fac">桜</span> ])</span> 20:18, 27 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
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{{Initiated|21:52, 14 November 2019 (UTC)|done=yes}} <s>Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ]? Thanks, ] (]) 09:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)</s> | |||
:{{not done}} as an RfC participant this closure request on my talk page. I do not want to argue about whether this closure request should have been made. I am marking this as closure request withdrawn, without prejudice against another editor filing another closure request. Courtesy pinging {{user|Francis Schonken}}, who for listing this closure request at ANRFC. ] (]) 09:10, 28 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
{{Initiated|21:52, 14 November 2019 (UTC)|done=}} Relisted, interpretation of the outcome appears to be still in dispute, so formal closure would be the best way forward imho. --] (]) 09:20, 28 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|25 September 2024}} Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
{{Initiated|5 November 2019}} Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ]? You are awesome. ―] ] 16:37, 19 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|11:32, 16 October 2024 (UTC)|done=yes}} Experienced closer requested. ―] ] 13:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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{{initiated|7 November 2024}} Looking for uninvolved close in CTOP please, only a few !votes in past month. I realise this doesn't require closing, but it is preferred in such case due to controversial nature of topic. ] (]) 10:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
* {{a note}} I'm happy to perform the merge if required, as have summarised other sections of this article already with consensus. I realise it's usually expected to perform splits or merges when closing discussions, but in this case it wouldn't be needed. ] (]) 20:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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{{Initiated|10:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)}} Contentious move request resulting in no obvious consensus. Relisting may be required under a name that would garner more community consensus. ] 11:25, 25 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
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(Initiated 64 days ago on 6 November 2024) RfC expired on 6 December 2024 . No new comments in over a week. Bogazicili (talk) 15:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Team Seas#Re: the ocean pollution additions
(Initiated 55 days ago on 15 November 2024) Clear consensus that the proposed edit (and its amended version) violate WP:SYNTH. However, the owning editor is engaging in sealioning behavior, repeatedly arguing against the consensus and dismissing others' rationale as not fitting his personal definition of synthesis; and is persistently assuming bad-faith, including opening an ANI accusing another editor of WP:STONEWALLING. When finally challenged to give a direct quote from the source that supports the proposed edit, it was dismissed with "I provided the source, read it yourself" and then further accused that editor with bad-faith. The discussion is being driven into a ground by an editor who does not (nor wish to) understand consensus and can't be satisfied with any opposing argument supported by Misplaced Pages policy or guidelines. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 22:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Israel#RfC
(Initiated 47 days ago on 22 November 2024) Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Can we please get an interdependent close. TarnishedPath 23:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: Ongoing discussion, please wait a week or two. Bogazicili (talk) 14:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#RFC_Science-Based_Medicine
(Initiated 33 days ago on 7 December 2024) slowed for a while Bluethricecreamman (talk) 06:14, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Place new discussions concerning RfCs above this line using a level 3 heading
Deletion discussions
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CfD | 0 | 0 | 22 | 20 | 42 |
TfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
MfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
FfD | 0 | 0 | 7 | 5 | 12 |
RfD | 0 | 0 | 39 | 10 | 49 |
AfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 20#Category:Belarusian saints
(Initiated 20 days ago on 20 December 2024) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Place new discussions concerning XfDs above this line using a level 3 heading
Other types of closing requests
Talk:Arab migrations to the Levant#Merger Proposal
(Initiated 106 days ago on 25 September 2024) Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. Andre🚐 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Donald Trump#Proposal: Age and health concerns regarding Trump
(Initiated 85 days ago on 16 October 2024) Experienced closer requested. ―Mandruss ☎ 13:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Closed by editor S Marshall. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. 20:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Talk:Winter fuel payment abolition backlash#Merge proposal
(Initiated 72 days ago on 29 October 2024) There are voices on both sides (ie it is not uncontroversial) so a non-involved editor is needed to evaluate consensus and close this. Thanks. PamD 09:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Talk:Israel–Hamas war#Survey
(Initiated 63 days ago on 7 November 2024) Looking for uninvolved close in CTOP please, only a few !votes in past month. I realise this doesn't require closing, but it is preferred in such case due to controversial nature of topic. CNC (talk) 10:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Note: I'm happy to perform the merge if required, as have summarised other sections of this article already with consensus. I realise it's usually expected to perform splits or merges when closing discussions, but in this case it wouldn't be needed. CNC (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Talk:Shiv Sena#Merge proposal
(Initiated 43 days ago on 27 November 2024) Discussion seems to have stopped. As the proposal is not uncontroversial, and I, as the initiator, am involved, I am requesting an uninvolved editor to close the discussion. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 11:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)