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			= January 11 =
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	= December 16 =

			== Young adult novel series called Blitzkrieg ==
	== BORAT THE NEXT DR.STRANGELOVE ==

			Does anybody remember who was the author of a novel series, aimed at middle and high school students called Blitzkrieg? It was about a high school football team and I think it was or were published in the 1970s or 1980s. --Donmust90-- ] (]) 00:49, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
	What are the chances that borat will do for the war on terrioism what dr.strangelove did for the cold war.
			:The series was actually called ''Blitz'' and was written by Paul Nichols (about whom we don't seem to have an article). There are some examples . --] 07:46, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
			::"Paul Nichols" is the pen name of Robert Hawks (b. 1961).<sup></sup> More about him . He has also published under his own name,<sup></sup> as well as young-adult horror under the pen name "M. T. Coffin" :).<sup></sup> In any case, neither the author nor the books appear to meet Misplaced Pages's notability criteria.  --] 09:42, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

			= January 20 =
	:If you mean ] movie, in my opinion, the war on terrorism isn't quite as ] as the ] was. ] is probably just another pebble being thrown at the lake of opinion about modern politics. ] 00:27, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
			== Yokohama Chinatown ==
			(14:31-14:56). Please, can you help me to find the name of the dress and the sword of that Chinese antique shop's owner, and that of the statue's face? You can see also these three files: , , . Thank you. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			:Don't post your question on more than one desk. Entertainment was the right place for it. --] 09:06, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Trump presidencies ==
	:I'm not sure I see the analogy. The influence of the character Dr. Strangelove was to become a stock symbol for the (il)logic of nuclear strategy. I'm not sure what Borat is supposed to be taken as a symbol of — the success of the character is less in its own portrayal than the reactions it gets from others, and I'm not sure that has much to do with the war on terrorism as a whole. --] 00:38, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

			Hello. Trump's current term is as the 47th president. The previous term, (45th), should be put together with the old respective dates in the template (2017-2021). Better not to merge the two terms together, it makes no sense, they are two different things: terms, dates and presidencies. Don't you agree? ] (]) 17:37, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
	Borat is a symptom of changing attitudes in the West, not a cause of it. ] 00:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

			:The reference desk is not the place to discuss this. Better venues may be ] or (since the issue transcends the specific person who now happens to be in office) ]. The problem may be due to a limitation of {{tl\|Infobox officeholder}}, the design of which does not accommodate the possibility that the incumbent is a repeat offender. For the only other repeat offender thus far, ], the issue could not arise since his repeated incumbency did not overlap with the lifetime of {{tl\|Infobox officeholder}}.  --] 21:39, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Lord of the Rings ==
			::If I'm reading the documentation right, you should be able to do it with that template. Use the <code>office</code> field for the first term and the <code>office2</code> field for the second term, with <code>term_start</code> and <code>term_end</code> being the dates for the first term, and <code>term_start2</code> and <code>term_end2</code> being the dates for the second term. Or maybe vice versa? --] (]) 22:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::These infoboxes list offices (being) held in reverse chronological order, each with a heading identifying the office in a light bluish grey banner, like {{color box\|#e6e6f9\|'''13th Head honcho of ]'''\|border=#fff}}, below which there is an unbannered heading '''Assuming office''', '''Assumed office''' or '''In office'''.
			:::The convention for nonconsecutive terms of an office held is that they are combined under one light bluish grey banner, as seen e.g. for ], {{color box\|#e6e6f9\|'''34th & 39th Governor of California'''\|border=#fff}}.
			:::The convention for current office holders is the appearance of a second banner {{color box\|#e6e6f9\|''']'''\|border=#fff}}, immediately below the office banner but in the same style; see e.g. ].
			:::These two conventions don't combine well.  --] 08:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

			= January 21 =
	I was wondering if anyone knows of a website where I can find out if Lord of the Rings is going to be playing again. I see that it's on tonight, but I would like to tape all of them, but I can't find a website that would say that. I've tried Yahoo, and T.V. Guide, but they don't seem to help me, any suggestions.

			== Peugeot models only available Europe or North America ==
	:Are you talking about in the US? Go to the movie's page on ], and click on the "on television" link on the left, it will show you when a movie is showing on TV. For example, the "on television" page for "The Fellowship of the Ring" is at http://imdb.com/title/tt0120737/tvschedule. ]\|] 04:10, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

			Which models of Peugeot, made from 1970 to 2010, could be available only in North America if Peugeot was participating in the North American market?--Donmust90-- ] (]) 20:45, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Many Movies,Many Screams ==
			:I don't think they made any model specifically for the North American market. They modified some existing models to make them conform to North American rules. The range of available models was always much smaller than in Europe. ] (]) 11:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			::You may be interested in (YouTube clip). ] (]) 11:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

			= January 23 =
	What do you are some of the scariest movies of all time.
	:I liked ], ] and ], myself, to name a few... ] 02:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

			== Year in review ==
	:Again, On a personal note, I have an extremely high tolerance for scary movies, and I'm picky. The only scary/horror movie I've seen in the last few years that I thought was ''good'', although I wasn't scared, was ]. I thought ] was boring, I thought ] was OK, but the ''only'' horror movie that ''ever'' kept me awake at night, even though I saw it as an adult, was ]. I swear balloons gave me a start for about 2 years after seeing that movie, and if I happened to ''think'' of the movie at bed-time, I slept with the light on. No fooling. ] 02:47, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

			I just received the WP year in review summary. 100 million edits world wide seemed low to me, until I saw 4+ billion bytes figure. Still trying to wrap my mind around these statistics. Did WP publish any kind of "deep dive" into this statistical analysis: minor vs major edits, bots, logged in vs logged off, etc.? Thanks. ] 15:36, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
	I thought The Ring was creepy as hell -- but ] was the scariest (and most thrilling) overall. ] 03:10, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

			= January 24 =
	I thought the movie with Freddy Kruger was scary as shit, granted I was not particular old when I saw it but still its one of the only movies that ever scared the shit out of me. ] 05:32, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:That's ], that and the original ] were indeed good. (Didn't care much for the 2nd Aliens, just felt like a regular action to me...) ] 17:12, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::The movie that really scared me was the remake of ] with Kurt Russell. I couldn't sleep after seeing that one. --] 17:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::'']'' does it for me. Compared to it, made-up horror pales to insignificance.

	:::] 18:59, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::::'']''; depsite being just a PG, the deceptively childish animation and simple yet brutal concept (old couple survive World War II, underestimate power of atom bomb, survive World War III, die slowly and painfully). ]]] 21:12, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Anti-obsesity ==

	Does anyone know a site with a good video that talks about the negatives and risks about obesity in children? ] 01:43, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Well I don't know whether it's any good or not, but has a host of educational videos, including those about childhood obesity, and you can preview them (so you can decide for yourself if they're good). I found the site with ] 02:49, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Being fat or grossly overweight ==

	Whose fault is it?--] 01:46, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	What I really meant to ask was: Is it true that some people cannot lose weight however hard they try? The article doesnt seem to come down on one side or the other.--] 18:19, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Certainly not the fault of a child who is fed lots of empty calories (via soft drinks and junk food, for example) and encouraged not to exercise. ] 02:57, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Blame the original robber-barons, and guys like Henry Ford -- I think that it's an echo-effect of industrialization. You can make cars in a factory -- why not food? ] 03:11, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Its peoples own fault, while they may have gotten fat while they were children then theres no excuse for why they are still fat when they are adults. ] 05:29, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:LC, have you read our article on ]? I'd have expected an experienced Wikipedian like you to know about our convenient search feature, over in the tool panel on the left side of your browser window. Cheers! ](]) 06:21, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Blame the bastard Evolu Sean. It's winter and scare ressources that turned us into fatbags. The absence of predators helps. ] 11:36, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	: There are rare individuals with mutations in genes encoding, for example, ] and the ] and ] receptors, that result in a disregulation in the appetite pathway. These unfortunate indivduals can become ] because their body tells their brain that they are hungry, so they eat continuously, even when they are full. In extreme cases, individual will go to extraordinary lengths to eat. It is very difficult indeed for these individuals to lose weight unassisted, though clinical intervention can help. Rare mutations in the gene encoding ] have a similar phenotype. In such cases leptin replacement can help . It should be noted that such dramatic genetic effects are very rare. While there are very likely complex genetic predisposition in a lot of obese people, the environmental effects (such as doing not exercise and eating high calorific diets) are majorly responsible. Thus for most people, "blaming ones genes" is not a particularly constructive, nor accurate, interpretation of their obese condition. ]<font color="black">e</font>] 02:38, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Misplaced Pages Strengths and Weaknesses ==

	If you had two choose two[REDACTED] articles to demonstrate Misplaced Pages at its best. And two articles that showcase the weaknesses and disadvantages of the[REDACTED] format... which would they be?

	Just out of curiousity
	] 02:50, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	Thats an extremely subjective question, theres no definitive answer to that and thus any answer you will give is a direct opinion of the person answering. ] 05:27, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	I personally like the series on ] -- especially the Monkey vs Dog article.

	The worst? -- anything written in esoteric (specialized) language. If it's worth explaining, it's worth explaining in straightforward, comprehensible layman's terms. ]

	:Yes, many of the science and math articles fall into that category. Others suffer from repeated vandalism or constant edit wars over controversial issues, like ]. Then, we still have articles which simply lack sufficient content and/or lack sources. Misplaced Pages might do best on certain obscure, but uncontroversial issues. One example is the ], a discontinued US spy plane. A paper dictionary would likely have no mention of the plane, or perhaps a paragraph on it, while we have a rather extensive article. ] 05:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::The SR-71 obscure?? What are you, a non-geek or something? --Anon, December 16, 05:55 (UTC).

	:::Tee hee, anon :). Wedgeoli, you may find ] and ] interesting reading (assuming you haven't already read them!) — ]<i>]</i> 10:26, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:<small>''The following answer is a subjective answer to a subjective question. It consist entirely of my own opinions. Although it does not meet ], please do not delete it.''</small> For Wilipedia at its best, try ] for interest and detail (I have to confess bias as I originated that article), and ] as an example of a great objective and balanced article on a controversial topic. Not so good stuff - well, there are lots of rather sad stubs like ] (a random example) that deserve more care and attention. And well-meaning but poorly written articles like ] (another random example) do not show us at our best. ] 12:38, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:I suspect editors will have favorite pages and metapedians will have hated pages. I can think of pages, like ] that I like, but not really any that I don't... The REAL bad ones are generally so bad that the most superficial fix (EG. Blanking) is the best course and so don't survive vary long. Also, edit warrers and noxious editors will probably have favorite pages. ] 06:44, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== how do I destroy my profile on Facebook? ==

	== Incorrect spelling of surname in title ==

	Hi!

	Title for WILLIAM DUFRIS has incorrect spelling (Dufries). There should be NO letter 'E' in the surname.
	:Hi, thanks for posting. The correct place for your comment would be either the ], or the ] of the article in question. If there is reliable evidence that the title is incorrect, the article can be moved. ] 03:00, 16 December 2006 (UTC)



	== "What links here" ==

	When we look at the "what links here" page of a Misplaced Pages article, the articles are arranged in some order. They're not alphabetical, so what is going on there? -]<sup>(])</sup> 06:58, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
	:I think it's chronological based on the date of creation of the articles shown. — ] 07:14, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::The "what links here" articles are kept in a database record. When you click "what links here" the database record is retrieved and I believe the referencing articles are listed in the order they appear in this database record. New references are added on the end, so the sort is chronological by date of creation of the reference (not creation of the article). These database records are also sometimes rebuilt (for example for some software updates), in which case they seem to end up alphabetical. So, in general, there's an alphabetical list of "old" references followed by a chronological list of "new" references. I think the bottom line is you can't really count on any particular ordering. -- ] <small>(])</small> 18:13, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	== how can i join you? ==

	hello.

	first of all whoever is reading this mail.or rather request,i want to thank him/her for spending your valuable time on it.

	as you have requested for some monitory help for this noble mission to spread free knowledge.
	i realize i shuld make myself useful to this organization.i'm a student of B-Tech final year,
	so i dont have any money to help your mission.

	but still i want to help you. may be you have thousands of employee,working on this project.so you dont need another one but i want
	to join your project.

	now my problem is how will i be able to do that? as you know my qualification.what i have to do to join your company/project?

	now again thank you for your time.I'll wait for your sugession.


	Sandeep Laik {{unsignedip\|59.91.176.178}}

	(email removed, to prevent spam).

	:I think you have the wrong idea. We don't have employees, everyone is a volunteer here. I suggest signing up for an account, and/or simply start editing! I've left a message with useful things on your talk page. --]]<font color="red">]</font>] <small>] ]</small> 07:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::If you have particular areas of expertise (like computers), you could either add to articles in that area or answer Ref Desk questions in that area (at the Computer Ref Desk, for example). While it's not required to sign up to do most edits here, it is encouraged. ] 07:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC)



	thnx man............ {{unsignedip\|59.91.176.178}}

	== State colleges without the state name ==

	Hey there Misplaced Pages, there are apparently two state colleges which do not reference the name of the state they're in in their title. One of them is Rutgers; what is the other one? Thanks a bunch! ] 07:45, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:] ? ] 07:50, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	There are ''many'' state colleges in the US that do not contain the name of the state. Just in Pennsylvania, I can think of about half a dozen (including one which bears the name of another state!). ] 13:36, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::Actually, ] doesn't even fit this. Its proper name is '''''Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey'''''. — ] 14:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:If you're referring to the State of Camden and Amboy, check ]. ] 06:37, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	==Serial killers in the news==

	A few weeks ago in Atlantic City, police found the body of four women, most of them prostitutes, in a drainage ditch. There was some coverage in the newspapers/TV, in the region, but that's about it. Now in England, five women were found dead, and it's a ] not just all over Britain, but even in parts of the rest of the world. (It's on the Misplaced Pages front page, for example.) I'm just wonder, how does stuff like this work out? One more body surely didn't change the "newsworthiness" of the story much... So why is one story huge and another not so much? Is it merely random chance? ] \| ] 08:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:How sympathetic the public is to the victims is of critical importance. Here are some factors that make people more sympathetic:

	:*Living near the victim.

	:*Age of the victim, with children and elderly getting more sympathy.

	:*Gender of the victim, with females getting more sympathy.

	:*Rarity of the event.

	:*Heinous nature of the crime.

	:*Morality of the victim.

	:*Similarity with the victim in race, ethnicity, etc.

	:*Attractiveness of the victim and availability of photos/video.

	:So, a young, female, attractive, morally pure victim of a rare and heinous crime with a major collection of available photos and videos gets major media attention, like ], while an ugly, middle-aged male criminal who is shot during a drug deal gone bad may not make the news at all. Of these, I suspect the rarity of the event is the diff here, as Atlantic City has a higher murder rate than England, making each murder less significant. ] 08:20, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::I think it's also to do with the timeliness of the findings - the women whose bodies were found on Tuesday only went missing last week, so the killer is still active and still a threat, and women are continuing to work despite it. Too little is known about the Atlantic City killings yet for there to be the same sense of imminent danger. Most of the coverage in the UK has centred on three themes - the safety of streetwalking in general, the impetus of heroin addiction and 'there but for the grace of God go I' - these were (generally) middle-class girls gone bad. Coverage such as that of the interview with one of the victims last week stating she was well aware of the danger but was compelled to work to feed her habit highlights the sadness of the case, and feeds public sympathy. ] 09:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::] may provide interesting reading for you. — ]<i>]</i> 10:23, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	I was also struck by the disparity of coverage, especially right here on wikipedia. Despite StuRat's and Natgoo's erroneous assumptions, the two stories are nearly identical. The local papers in Philadelphia have covered the AC story in some detail. For example, AC has a fairly low murder rate (as opposed to, say, Philly, which just logged its 400th or 500th for the year-- I forget which). The overwhelming majority of US big city murders are young black men shooting each other over drugs or disrespect and that sad story is too common to be newsworthy. But the road to prostitution and the kind of people who get there seem to be very similar in Ipswich or New Jersey. You will have to come up with some other distinctions than the kind of victims or the local murder frequency. And this is the antithesis of the "MWW syndrome"-- no one even noticed these white women were missing until the bodies were found. ] 13:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:The murder rate is, indeed, significantly higher in the US. Here are the relevant rates in murders per 100,000 people :

	United States: 5.7 England and Wales: 1.61
	], NJ: 3.3 ], England: 2.16

	:] 14:34, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::But notice less than a 50% difference between Ip & AC. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 14:40, 16 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

	:::That's still significant. The 350% plus increase in the overall US murder rate relative to the England and Wales rate is even more significant in the perception of US murders as not newsworthy, relative to England and Wales murders being perceived as newsworthy, however. ] 15:00, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::::Looking at the murder rates and population, I see that Ipswich has 2.5 murders a year average while Atlantic City only has 1.3! ] 16:58, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::::That's why the stats are always equalized by population. Otherwise, even the most dangerous little towns would look safe, because there aren't many people there to kill. ] 17:11, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::::::Plus, ] is legal (although most activities surrounding it are illegal). Therefore, there's much less of a "who cares - they were criminals!" attitude surrounding them, and far more of a "who on earth would do this to five flawed but essentially innocent girls?" ]]] 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Tanning inner arms ==

	Hi there. I just spent a week out in "the bush", being outside a lot of the time with my shirt off. I've come back from my holiday with a nice tan everywhere except on the inside of my arms. The contrast is quite bad: I'm completely pale in that area, but very tanned everywhere else. I figure I now need to do some form of corrective tanning. What are the best ways to tan one's inner arms? Any specific positions or techniques? Any help appreciated. ] 07:06, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
	:It's difficult to answer this without stating the obvious - assume a position in which the inner arm are exposed to light and get into some sun. Arms outstretched in a gesture of openness seems like one possibilty. Alternativelt arm over the head lying on the side is an other. Maybe you could get a t shirt and put slits down the side..] 13:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::Just get some ] in a bottle. It's very cheap. Wash your hands after using it, as tanned palms look weird.--] 13:51, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::What about going somplace sunny, and "pointing" your armpits at the sun? \| ] <small><sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="Tan">]</font> \| <font face="Times New Roman" color="Tan">]</font></sup></small> 16:36, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::: This would also be my recommendation. If you live above the Tropic of Cancer, you'll have to wait until May to do this of course. :) ] 20:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Cost of life near ] ==

	Hi, I tried searching for some info at the and sweden.se, but I couldn't find what I was looking for. What would be the rough cost of life in Stockholm, within commuting distance from ]? I read there needs to be a deposit of around 3-to-6 months' rent, but how much rent would you pay for one month's lodgings for one person, or two? I don't need precise numbers at the moment, so rough numbers would do nicely.

	Much thanks in advance, --''']'''] 15:01, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	: has a great <strike>graph</strike> table to put it in comparison to a few US cities, and as such it appears very expensive (more so than San Francisco!). Also, keep in mind that Sweden is a socialist nation with , a burden all its own. ] 15:11, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::Thanks. :) Um, that's actually a relief, because Seoul (where my brother lives) is number 2 on that list. ;) Yep, I need to keep the tax on my mind. Can anyone give me some pointers about the costs of food, coffee, clothes, housing, and entertainment (CDs), please? --''']'''] 15:35, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::I live in Stockholm. What do you need to know? Rent is generally quite high, reaching thousands of ]/SEK each month (That's a couple of hundreds of Euro or US$), I think commuting is about 600 SEK a month, a CD is about 150-200 SEK, depending on where you buy it, and how popular it is. A movie is between 50 and 100 SEK. I think overall, Stockholm is quite expensive, say, compared to Berlin... ] 17:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Uniross charging times ==

	I recently bought some 250mAh AAA rechargeables and realised that I lost the instructions with the charging times.

	I have a really old Uniross charger that is no longer manfactured by Uniross, so they have no documentation on charging times. So I'm afraid I may blow the batteries.

	What is the charging time for the batteries?!

	The only useful info that I have is that it charges 800mAh AA batteries in 7 hours.

	] 16:30, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Some chargers scale the charging current with battery size while others just run the same current no matter what the size; for this later type, you could just scale the charging time with the battery capacity. I don't suppose your charger knows enough to stop when it's done, no matter what the size?

	:] 19:06, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


	Unfortunately it has absolutely no features - just a light to tell you when it is plugged into the mains.

	] 21:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:In that case you are taking a risk, but I recommend the following: Your charger seems to be a relatively simple model, so I doubt it does anything fancy like scale current with battery capacity, or automatically detect the end of a charging cycle. From "charge 800mAh in seven hours" indicates that your charger charges at around 115mA. For a 250mAh battery, that adds up to just over two hours of charging time. Something to watch out for - NiMH batteries heat up fast when they are full and still being charged, so keep an eye on your batteries when you charge them the first time, if you notice them heating up (or if two hours have passed), remove them! If you have a voltmeter, check their voltage when fully charged (it should be around 1.25V), if it's below 1.2V your batteries are ''probably'' not fully charged (depends on how new they are, NiMH need several charge-discharge cycles to attain their full capacity). Good luck, and if you are planning on using many rechargeable batteries, I recommend you do some research and invest in a good charger which regulates currents and automatically ends the charging cycle when the batteries are full. It will save you a lot of pain in the long run. — ]<i>]</i> 11:26, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Religious publication ==

	I listened to an interview on a radio program sometime ago. I don't remember the the name of the person being interviewed or the person doing the interview. The person being interviewed was the editor of a magizine of religious satire. The name of the magizine was the Guttenburg(or berg) Door. I remember the editor saying that they had misspelled the name but did not realize it until after the first edition was out, so they kept the spelling. I can't find anything on the publication. I want to subscribe. ] 16:33, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:I can't find anything on it. You don't mean ] do you ? That's an attempt to put as many books online as possible. ] 17:23, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::Perhaps you mean ], also see http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/ -- ] <small>(])</small> 17:59, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::That must be it, under it's other name, ''The Wittenburg Door''. ] 19:35, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
	It is the Wittenburg Door. Thank you!] 19:42, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:And so the intended reference was to ]. English-speakers typically confuse the German endings -berg (mountain) and -burg (castle, etc.), because we typically pronounce them both the same way. --Anon, December 17, 03:44 (UTC).

	::Perhaps we need to ask a ] to explain the diff to us. :-) ] 14:15, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Business Sale Price ==

	I have an existing retail business which I will put up for sale. Sale price of anything is generally determined by cost with a profit margin. Putting a price tag on a business is however not that simple as we need to look at certain considerations such as startup cost, current sales, sales potential, location, goodwill, etc. In my case, it's a fairly recently established retail store of somewhat high end characteristics and I have been approached by an interested buyer who will be dealing in different but similar line. Concerns about sales and growth potential thus become irrelevant for this prospective buyer as his decision will seem to be influenced by non-financial factors, most probably the outlook and location. So what would be the best way for me to make an assessment to arrive at the reasonable selling price of my retail store? Thanks. --] 19:02, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Determining what it's worth to him should be relatively straightforward, just look at the prices for similar properties in that area. Determining the worth to you should be done by looking at the amount of profit it generates per year, multiplied by some factor, say 5, to arrive at it's value to you. Now, if it's worth more to him than you, there is a basis for a sale somewhere in that range (where in that range depends on haggling). If, however, the business is worth more to you than the facility is worth to him, then there's no basis for a sale. Also, if you have valuable equipment that can be sold, that could be considered, as well. ] 19:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Forgotten joke ==

	Im trying to remember a rather good joke about an elderly lady who has trouble with her sense of smell and hearing who goes to the doctor. If it is allowed by such an ] community, would anyone be able to remind me of the joke?--] 19:20, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
	:The one I remember goes something like this. I'm just going through the generals:
	The lady goes to the doctor, claiming:
	-You know, doctor. I have a problem of constantly passing gas, but at least there's an advantage.
	They don't sound anything, and completely lack odor.
	Believe it or not, I actually have let four of them out, since I came.
	-Well, lady, first things first.
	First of all, we need to check up your complete lack of smell, and second to that, we should check up on your bad
	hearing.
	(I read the joke in Norwegian a long time, ago, and am too lazy to bother with a good translation...) ] 19:28, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:http://www.leisurecambodia.com/Leisure_Cambodia/No.13/overheard.htm but it isn't told very well, also http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061205/NEWS01/612050361 Um by the way I searched for these, I would not want you to think I have them bookmarked. <small><font color="#000000">]</font></small> 19:28, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Yup thats the one! Thanks. 8-))--] 19:35, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:I heard it about 30 years ago as "Here is a prescription for a decongestant, and this is the address of a hearing aid company."] 21:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	I think I saw that posted to ] by a SPAMmer not that long ago... ] 06:34, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== how to prepare for wcg? ==

	ppl,

	i wanna know........

	1.how to prepare for world cyber games?

	2.what type of systems they use for play?

	3.wheather in india there were any sponcers for this game?

	4.is there any team from india?

	5.how can i join a team for wcg?


	thnx in advance for you'r time. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 19:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

	Have you read ] and their official website, ? ] 20:21, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


	thnx for your info but i have checked both of them out but none can give my answers perticulerly..........

	so i'm still waiting.........for answers.

	== Cost of weapon production ==

	Does anyone know how much it costs for the military to produce bullets and kinetic energy penetrators? Any info would be helpful. --] 19:35, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Normal bullets are proably relatively cheap. The ] spends hundreds of dollars per minute, if not thousands. That's why they only use short bursts. \| ] <small><sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="Tan">]</font> \| <font face="Times New Roman" color="Tan">]</font></sup></small> 12:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Christmas-themed Simpsons episodes. ==

	Does anyone know the names of each Christmas-themed Simpson episode? The ones I can recall are ''Miracle on Evergreen Terrace'', ''Simpsons Christmas Stories'', and ''Marge Be Not Proud'' -- but I know there are half a dozen more. I'd appreciate it if anyone could mention some. ] 20:08, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Google found '']'', '']'', '']'', '']'', '']'', '']'', and '']''. –]<font color="#FF0099">]</font> 20:27, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
	::This year's Christmas episode will be called '']''. ]]] 21:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Medical procedure ==

	Could any one remind me of the name of the procedure to look at the coronary arteries by feeding a camera or something up an artery in the groin?--] 20:24, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
	:]? –]<font color="#FF0099">]</font> 20:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Yes thats it ! Thanks--] 21:56, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Cats at night ==

	I have a freind who says that all that noise you hear miowing and screetching at night , is actually 2 cats (1 m, 1f) having sex. She says the screaming is because the males penis is fitted with spikes thay do not allow it to come out for over 15 mins. and causes a lot of pain to the female cat when finally withdrawn. Is that true?

	:The spike part is true, but I don't think the 15 mins part is true. The spike actually stimulates (painfully) the female to ovulate. Cats don't ovulate on a regular basis like human females. I don't know why a painful spike is required to stimulate ovulation, versus the stimulus of intercourse alone being sufficient, however. ] 22:21, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::The 15 minutes of fame may be a reference to the ] in dogs which can produce long term commitment for as long as an hour. <small><font color="#000000">]</font></small> 03:41, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::However, the yowling you hear at night is mostly cats proclaiming their territory and having stand-offs with each other. (This seems to be missing from our ] article.) They do sex fairly quietly, with little more than a sharp miaow to conclude.--] 10:07, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::Hey well thats more committment than some women can get with some men! 8-)--] 23:13, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::::I remember times that when I was working late at night, I had to close all windows because the cats were simply taking over. I was always wondering.... could it be a combination of sex and fighting... I mean : do male cats often rape female cats??! At some times I tried to intervene... to no avail of course.] 12:34, 17 December 2006 (UTC)



	:::::No, I don't believe male cats often rape female cats. The males aren't much bigger, so it would be difficult for them to rape the females. ] 12:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::::::: Quite how one animal can "rape" another is not quite clear to me. The human concept of non-consensual sex doesn't really apply to animals, for which (in most cases) the purpose is solely reproductual. ]<font color="black">e</font>] 22:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Temporary disqualification or barring ==

	Whats the term for Temporary disqualification or barring from a game of contest? (similar to blocking on WP)--] 23:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	Clar: During a game--] 23:46, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:That's typically called a "penalty", at least in hockey. ] 23:26, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	::Or a ''suspension'', depending on the context. -- ] 23:30, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

	:: In some contests its referred to as "being sent to the ]" ]<font color="black">e</font>] 02:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:It can also just be "being barred". In bridge a player can be "barred from the auction" (although the official term is something like "required to pass for the remainder of the auction"). Different games would likely have different terminology. --Anonymous, December 17, 03:51 (UTC)Z
	::In ], you do not pass ] and go directly to ]. --] 06:22, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::In sports like ] and ] a ], or being red-carded, means you're sent off for the game. In many types of motor racing, such as ], a ], or being black-flagged, means a disqualification. You might also like to check out ]. --] 13:18, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	= December 17 =

	== Oil Pumps ==

	I can't seem to find out what the oil pumps that have a swinging boom arm are called any ideas???
	Thanks Myth... <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 00:21, 17 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

	:Do you mean an ] ? Here's a pic: . ] 00:22, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:] (aka "nodding donkey"). -- ] \| ] 00:23, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	Thanks guys!! I appreciate it!
	-Myth

	== "Golden ticket" scam ==

	A lot of magazines in the UK contain lottery-type promotions by various companies. These normally consist of a scratchcard or similar which offers fantastic prizes (carribean holidays, £25,000 etc.) if you find the three matching symbols. The thing is: every ticket seems to win. And unless I am freakishly lucky (which I'm not), it's a scam. The commonest method seems to be asking people to send text messages to a premium rate number. However, this rarely costs more than £10, when the prize ('''guaranteed''' according to the ticket) is worth at least 10x that. It doesn't appear to be a ]; the tickets give the address, phone number etc. of the company which issued the ticket, as well as a customer service number, and it seems therefore relatively simple to get a refund under the ]. So where's the catch? How can the companies make money by giving everybody a prize? ]]] 00:54, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	: I don't know about the holiday things you describe, but some mail order "prizes" say you've won "a car, a big-screen tv, or a portable music player", and of course you've always won the player, and it's worth about three quid. And you have to pay 4.99 shipping and handling. -- ] \| ] 00:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:I don't know (First thought was ]), but I'd suggest seeing if the ] knows anything about them. ] 06:31, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::They vary. Always read the (extremely) small print. (Sometimes this is hidden on the inside of the envelope.) This has the complete list of prizes, most of which are not worth the £10 phone call. In one I read recently, your call only bought you ''"entry into a draw"'' to win the star prizes. Yes, it is a scam really, but the promoters know the rules and usually manage to stay the right side of the law.--] 10:15, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Anything which appears too good to be true usually is. Even if they did have that money to give away, and the tickets really "won" it, they wouldn't last long so there'd be little chance of collecting. --] 19:23, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Most popular selling item online ==

	To whom it may concern:

	I was wondering...what is the #1 most popular selling item or product
	sold on the internet today?

	I'm looking for several responses to see if there is any concensus.

	Thanks.

	Rich C.

	: Great question. I can't find any reference to a single product - and the nature of Internet commerce would probably mean accurate sales figures would be almost impossible to obtain. However, in 1998 ] calculated that "PCs, porn, CDs—things the consultancy calls “boy-toys”—and gift items such as flowers made up a little over half of all online consumer revenues ." Zoom forward to last year and Forrester reports "The most popular categories were travel (at $62 billion), followed by computer hardware and software ($14 billion), autos and auto parts ($13 billion), apparel ($11 billion) and home furnishings ($8 billion)." . Forrester has a prediction for 2006, but will cost you $279 to access it. . ]<font color="black">e</font>] 01:34, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Weight loss ==

	To whom it may concern:

	Q. What is the '''most reliable''' and successful weight loss product on the market today?

	Rich C.

	: Reducing your calorific intake and ] more. ]<font color="black">e</font>] 01:34, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:]. ] 01:35, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Reducing calorie intake (esp fats)--] 01:36, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:I heard ] intake was just as important to reduce. If you don't use all the energy sugar gives you directly, it would be stored as fat or something... ] 03:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	:: ] has a high food energy content (4 ] per gram) and is used widely to sweeten foods, thus is a major contributor to the Western, hypercalorific diet. Cutting down on sugar is a good start towards cutting calories. ]<font color="black">e</font>] 03:43, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	I can tell you what worked for me: eliminating all meat and poultry from my diet (and replacing it with fish, shellfish, crustaceans, eggs, and cheese), avoiding anything that contains or may contain hydrogenated or partially-hydrogenated oil, and avoiding any foodstuff that contains preservatives, other than harmless stuff like salt, citric acid, and so on. ] 03:30, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:First of all, exercise, eat little, and stay away from sweets. Hiring a trainer can make you lose a pound a week sometimes. \| ] <small><sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="Tan">]</font> \| <font face="Times New Roman" color="Tan">]</font></sup></small> 12:46, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	*In short, weight loss products are usually unreliable if you don't alter your life style to match. Exercise and adjusting what you eat will have more effect (without yo-yoing). 0- ]\|] 20:05, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::Ah I forgot! most important: cut down on alcohol- its fattening.--] 21:14, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Get a high-energy job. I've heard that running a preschool or daycare is especially good -- running around after a gaggle of three-year-olds will burn off pounds like you wouldn't believe. --] 00:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Introduction services ==

	Are there any legitimate mail order bride or marrage introduction services and how would I obtain a list? When you search online for one they come up by the hunreds but I am hesitant to try one.
	Thank you. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 01:39, 17 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->
	:I looked at some of these agencies a while back and this one, , seemed the most legit to me based on the way they conduct their business. There are others too that seem pretty legit; don't know about any list though --] 02:41, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	:: Our article on ] provides some sources of information. See for example ]<font color="black">e</font>] 02:59, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Snack bars ==

	I have a large supply of organic muesli. Is there a simple way of making this into nice tasting snack bars for taking out with me? I prefer solutions without baking.--] 01:44, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	Clarification: The muesli contains nuts (of various sorts), oats and fruit.--] 14:09, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:If you're a bird, you could try mixing it with lard. ] 01:47, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::Are you having a lark?--] 01:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	Microwave some marshmallows to soften them up, then mix them with the muesli and form into bars. Allow to cool and harden. ] 02:26, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::Oooooh, that's a really good idea! ] 02:34, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Have you actually tried that?--] 02:31, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::Not personally, no. ] 12:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::Sounds like ]. <tt>]</tt>\|] 13:25, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	Mix it with little bits of unsalted butter, and brown sugar, and cinnamon, spread it on a baking sheet, and bake it until it smells nice! At least, that works with just oats. Should work with muesli too. ] 03:28, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Add some nuts, honey, and all of the above. You're going to have too many recepies. ;-) \| ] <small><sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="Tan">]</font> \| <font face="Times New Roman" color="Tan">]</font></sup></small> 12:49, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::I was looking for something simple like: mix with honey for sweetness and roll out on kitchen table. Then cut into slices. Would that work- or would it need heating?--] 14:12, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::They wouldn't be very hard, but would remain limp. Baking is one way to remove the moisture. Adding something to harden it is another idea. I believe marshmallows already contain thickeners (probably ] or something similar), so that's why I suggested them. ] 15:15, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::::Yeah but the muesli is very dry as it comes already. I need something to moisten it and bind it.--] 16:04, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	Honey+Muesli = luxury ] am I right? This shouldn't need baking - but it would be hard work to mix the honey and muesli intimately - I've tried this (plus milk powder) and it sticks together (sort of) A press might help if you don't want to cook it] 16:23, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Ah now thats more like it! I agree mixing may be a problem. Maybe you need to let the honey soak in over night? then squeeze out any xs. Could be messy--] 17:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::In practice - it absorbs a lot of honey - and it's very slow to absorb (honey isn't all that runny). I'd suggest a ] type preparation - make the mixture at least weeks before you want to use it.. (You'd probably need more honey than muesli by volume).] 18:09, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Scam ==

	How can you tell if any investment or financial scheme is a scam? Are there any telltale signs? TQ. --] 04:47, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Have you read ], ], ], ], ], ]? ] 04:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:And to summarise, there are a few telltale signs, although more info would be good. One, if you are expected to get other people to participate it's usually a scam. Two, if you 'win' something but must pay something in order to claim your winnings, it's almost ''always'' a scam. Three, if you are asked to give personal information like banking info, credit card info, etc, it's almost always a scam. Four, if it's explained to you, but you just really can't figure out ''how'' everyone's supposed to make money. Things that aren't always dangerous but are warning signs: You're asked to keep it a secret; it's related to someone you don't know - a 'friend of a friend', someone offshore, etc; it's supposedly to help someone out of a jam, but somehow ''you're'' going to strike it rich at the same time; it's a great, sure thing investment that happens to be the best-kept secret in the investment world. ] 05:05, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	To give you more info, I find the scheme well orchestrated as it has stark similarities with the multilevel marketing (MLM) concept in which the lead member would solicit for more members to form a network of member under the lead member, hence multilevel. The scope of multilevel marketing scheme as we know it is usually limited to consumer products such as health and beauty, appliances, etc. and it is indeed a legitimate marketing scheme. The one which I came across is that deals with money or cash between the members. Unlike most financial investment, membership under this scheme only requires as little as $20 and the return is deposited into the member's online account on daily basis. What's more, the principal or invested sum can be withdrawn on demand and to top it off, one may draw on the whole investment after after 100 days or so. I also understand that upon withdrawal, the payment is made through the lead member who may make use of his/her networks of members across the organisation to gather sufficient funds in case of any shortfall anywhere in the system. Does this sound like a scam? That's what I call literally money makes money. --] 06:51, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Sounds like a ponzi scheme, which is the pure cash version of MLM. The question you should be asking yourself is, ''how is the money making money''? In ponzi schemes, the early investors typically win big, but later investors make nothing and some lose their principal. In a closed system (100 investors each investing $20), if ''anyone'' walks out of the project with more than they invested, then someone else will leave with less. Unless the money is coming from somewhere else? Is that the case? ] 07:00, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	I agree with you and that's exactly what I told my friend about the inner workings of this scheme. It seems enticing and the early birds may benefit while those come later may lose their investment completely. I warned him against it but he wouldn't listen as it's not much of a loss for just $20 anyway. But we never know when human desire meets temptation. Thanks. --] 07:24, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Also, it may very well be illegal. ] 12:50, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	How can you tell if something's a scam? There's a simple rule I like - "If it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is." Sort of cuts right to the point. --] 13:02, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:I generally agree, but every once in a while something "too good to be true" really takes off, like Google or Youtube. So, be skeptical, but don't completely reject anything in that category, out of hand. ] 15:09, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::Google was never really "too good to be true", though. It was just a very odd business strategy (building up enough name recognition through free services that one could easily branch into pay services), one which only could work in the information age (and had a very high chance of failure). And in any case, exceptions often only prove the rule — the one or two dotcom successes are only really remarkable when compared to the sea of failures. --] 19:26, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	==Sites with intelligence training==
	I am trying to find websites that have intelligence training. Ideally, ones that have free access or at least free trials. 05:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)]
	:Do you mean improving your intellect? Or espionage? ] 06:15, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	I mean improving my intellect. You know, the sort of thing that is claimed to keep you intelligent, alert, etc despite aging] 06:37, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::Try doing a 5* Sudoku puzzle every day. It's my personal anti-Alzheimer's strategy! --] 09:51, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	I may be biased, but think that reading Misplaced Pages articles, or Ref Desk questions, and contributing to them, is an excellent way to keep your brain active. ] 12:47, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:No, you're not biased; it's true. \| ] <small><sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="Tan">]</font> \| <font face="Times New Roman" color="Tan">]</font></sup></small> 12:50, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== info on a movie ==

	Can you give me any info on a movie that aired once, it was called Amerika. Any information will be appreciated.
	thank you, shirley.
	<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 05:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

	:] may be what you're looking for. It came up using the search box to the left; maybe give that a try next time, as it will save you some time. Cheers! ] <small>]</small> 06:10, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Rape ==

	There's always been talk about woman raping guys. how is it possible. don't men have enoguh muscle power to prevent this from happening? {{unsigned\|219.88.164.105}}

	:That's a stereotype. Not all women are weaker than all men, just as not all men are the same strength as one another. As well, women with training in the martial arts, or a weapon, can overpower men stronger than them. There's always psychological weakness and age differences too. -- ] <small>(])</small> 06:50, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Also, a predatory woman might take advantage of the fact that lots of men don't want to hurt a woman. ] 09:53, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:: But even still? What does it mean when a woman rapes a man, I never got this. Do they mean that the woman managed to force the man to have sex with her (because she's older or because she's beating him up or whatever)? Because - due to male and female anatomy- I don't understand how a woman can force herself onto a man?] 12:31, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::There are two quite different defs of "rape". The older and universally accepted meaning is to force somebody into sex against their will. The newer def is much broader, and includes cases where "consent can't legally be given", such as consensual sex with somebody below the age of consent. Other people deemed unable to give consent might include those who are intoxicated, mentally retarded, unconscious, in a subservient social role, etc. Now, as for women raping men, that could use either term. A woman with a gun could certainly force a man to do sexual things he did not want to do, possibly including intercourse (men sometimes get erections even when in fear). The term could also be applied to a woman who has sex with an underage boy, even if he is a willing participant. In a truly bizarre legal definition of rape, two underage kids who have sex can also both be charged with raping each other, in some jurisdictions (these laws aren't enforced, however).] 12:43, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::::Depending on your jurisdiction, you may also want to distinguish between "rape" and "sexual assault"; in English law, for example, a woman can never commit "rape", because the legal definition of "rape" requires the insertion of the penis of a human male by the perpetrator. As women don't posess these, they cannot commit "rape". --]]] 12:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::::I believe the law has been changed now to define rape to include insertion of any object into any orifice. (except the ears)--] 14:16, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::::Hmm. Not sure about the nostrils either. THat might just be picking a fight, or possibly GBN (Greivous bodily nosepicking. 8-\|--] 19:09, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	::::::Where?] 15:38, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::::::Also, it is important to remember that drugs may be involved. While it is unlikely that a small-framed woman could drag a larger man back to some alley, it may be likely that an already inebriated man could be drugged up a bit more so he 'wouldn't care.' ] 16:41, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:::::::The ] defined "rape" to require 'penile penetration', and also created the offense of "assault by penetration" (as a distinct crime from rape, this can be perpetrated by women). Our article on that act does say that rape has since been redefined, apparently to basically make the definition for 'rape' the same as was for 'assault by penetration', but that comment is unsourced, and I'm not familiar with an act that did this, I may have missed it, but I believe(d) the 2003 act and definition remains in effect. --]]] 16:46, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	::::::::Hm, doesn't English law have the principle that someone who participates in the crime is equally guilty? So wouldn't, say, ] be considered a rapist in the UK? --] 18:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	Yes, woman-on-man rape does exist and has occured.

	I remember learning in Gender Psychology, back in 2002, that a Western researcher encountered a peculiar occurence on one of the islands (or group of islands) in the South Pacific, many many decades ago, perhaps even in the 19th century.

	Apparently, a group of young women would pin down and rape a lone young male (taking turns of course), and after they were finished, defecate and urinate on him. I do not recall enough particulars of this observation, to provide something cite-able, but I am neither making it up, nor did I dream it. Remember though, this was decades if not centuries ago. ] 20:24, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	TMI! Really!--] 20:32, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:There was a notorious case of an ex-beauty queen obsessed with a Mormon missionary. She got a male friend to help kidnap the victim. ] 22:54, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Question ==

	I am a blogger at the popular website, www.steeplemedia.com (actually the "in-training" webmaster) and I was wanted to know a few things.
	1) Would I be able to have an article on Misplaced Pages about it?
	2) If so, I couldnt figure out which topic i should put it under (on the Request Articles page).
	and 3) I would create the article my self but I would never have the time to sit and figure out how to format it correctly.

	If anyone could help that would be awesome!!

	Thanks --] 07:02, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Please see ]. Unless you've been covered in newspapers or other reliable sources, you shouldn't create an article, and even then, creating one of a website you're involved in is a bad idea. --]]<font color="red">]</font>] <small>] ]</small> 09:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	::Yes I recommend not doing so, If someone a senior editor spots it they will most likely AFD it and It will be deleted. — <span style="font-family: Verdana">]<sup>]</sup></font></span> 16:38, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	:::Ok, Thanks for your help!! --] 17:11, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Newtonmas ==

	Why is ] deleted and protected on Misplaced Pages? Is it because it's secular?
	I can't see why really. Newtonmas and Misplaced Pages are similar in many ways, on Newtonmas people are ment to share gifts of knowledge such as books, and Misplaced Pages is even saying "You can give the gift of knowledge by donating to the Wikimedia Foundation!".
	Or has this place been infultrated by radical Evangelical nutcases?
	Thanks. ] 15:33, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Thanks for signing your name - not all newcomers do. You might like to ask : s/he's the dude who deleted it.] 15:36, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:It is not because "it's secular"—Misplaced Pages has articles on all sorts of topics from all sorts of points of view. Take a look at the ] about it. It seems to have been deleted because it did not satisfy Misplaced Pages's ] and ] policies. --] 15:47, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== SACD Players ==

	I found your discussion of SACD very interesting and exciting. I could not determine exactly what is needed electronically, Hi Fi wise, to get the system to work. Do I need two preamps and two amplifiers? I am a loyal dynaco fan, but I have more than two amps and two preamps, is this sufficient or do I need something more, or is this multichannel something else entirely. In other words is it possible to take, say, 4 channels from the SACD player as two sets of two, or three sets of two and amplify separately? I hope you understand my confusion. Do I need three preamps and three amps? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 15:38, 17 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->
	:] is at the minimum two channel - so you'd need a 'set up' capable of reproducing stereo at the very least. I'd guess that most (or at least some) players can downmix multichannel to stereo as well.
	:Multichannel eg 5.1 is 5 normal channels (front(center), left, right, rear left, rear right) plus a separate low frequency channel. To reproduce this fully you'd need 5 amps+speaker and a special subwoofer amp and speaker.
	:Modern multichannel recievers/decoders can downmix multichannel to stereo as well - if you don't want to buy all those extra amps and speakers.
	:A SACD doesn't have to be multichannel - it may just be stereo (of a higher quality than CD), the ouput depends on the disc you are playing.
	:SACD multichannel goes up to 6 channels - so you could need up to 6 amp/speaker.
	:The SACD disc will say (somewhere) on it exactly how many channels are used - I'm not sure what is normal for such a disc.
	:As for taking 4 outputs as two sets of two - i guess you mean join left rear and left to make one channel and right rear and right to make one channel - something like that - yes this is possible to do if you want to - though I wouldn't suggest just 'joining them together via a stereo to mono plug. - You could end up shorting out the op-amps - if you want to do this I recommend a special mixer - eg like a mixing desk to do it, but you will have lost the multichannel effects..(Please ask more questions if I didn't 'get it')] 18:25, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== What does this mean? ==

	Hi, could someone please tell me what "His flower-like hands embraced the thorn" means? Thanks. ] 17:31, 17 December 2006 (UTC) X

	:Yes, it is a ] hugging a ]. Can't tell you more without a lot more context. --] 18:38, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	Thank you for answering. I dont know the context either, someone asked me and I thought of 'Misplaced Pages. ] 22:02, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:It sounds dirty to me, but perhaps that says more about me than the quote. :-) ] 00:49, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Do my lifetime achievements matter in the great scheme of things? ==

	Serious question - nothing sinister underlying it. I am male, happily married (second-time - first time a disaster), 59, British, University Graduate, ex-Civil Servant, Retired, Children, Grand-Children, Solvent, no Criminal Record (not even a parking ticket), saw the Beatles and the Stones performing live on stage, "straight", politically middle-of-the-road, never published a book, or wrote a piece of music, or gave a lecture, or won an award from The Queen: have no entry in Who's Who; not an alumni, got lots of friends and ex-friends all over the world, don't care about religion or race or supremacist faiths, think the world is a beautiful place to be, wish everyone else thought the same. I suppose there must be millions like me, very content with my life overall and looking forward to years more to come - not desperate to change anything significant. But - I am increasingly conscious in a big way of how much I do not know about the world I live in, and even more conscious of how little (if anything) I have done to improve the world I will one day leave behind. Don't want a monument or memorial service in St Paul's Cathedral but would like to face my Maker and be able to say, "But for me.......................". Any suggestions?
	:Sure, find a group that is doing work that you believe in and support them. It would be great if you are in a position to work full-time for a group you believe in. Get politically active too, if you are not already. Point is, join with like-minded; you can do a lot more that way. Also, your entire comment reminds me a lot of ]; the scene where old Ryan is asking "Have I lived a good life?". Always chokes me up. So have you? That is not really the question though; the fact that you ask this question tells me that you know you should be doing more. Good for you! --] 18:35, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	::You can of course immortalize yourself by writing a ]; it will be read by[REDACTED] users and plagiarized by students forever. More seriously, is it really necessary to achieve something great and monumental to influence the world? Can't you live on in, say, a joke or an idea you shared with your friends or the way you helped shape how your children look at the world? As Pessoa said, everyone who ever lived is still alive somewhere.{{citeneeded}} ] 19:03, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


	:: The "great scheme of things" is not fully known to humans, although many groups and traditions will gladly tell you they know the answers. A number of traditions comment that the answer varies depending what level you look at it:
	:::* In earthly life, your achievements live on in the lives of all they touch
	:: all the way through to:
	:::* There is no "one" to "achieve anything, it is illusion in the eye of .
	:: Probably you didn't think Misplaced Pages would have an answer for you. But it does. Check out our article on ]. Also look up ], ], as articles whose subjects quite directly address the same field, and may contain thought-provoking ideas if the question is a real one for you.

	:: Outside Misplaced Pages, three books I can immediately think of which you might also enjoy are: "Only love is real" (Dr Brian Weiss), "The Invitation" (Oriah Mountain Dreamer ''note this is the book, not the poem of the same name''), and "The Bridge Across Forever" (]), all touching on the same isssues from different perspectives.

	:: Ultimately most traditions seem to split into two - the ones that regard life as something one does to "get" something (praise, recognition, remembered, heaven) ... and those that view life as only mattering now, each moment, where what you personally do only matters as you live it. The question for you is, does it matter what the future thinks. if you develop your own view on what a good life should be, the standards it should embody, and then live that way, you surely will not be doing too much wrong. There is an old jewish commentary that states you will be asked by God, why you didn't enjoy the (permissible) enjoyable things in life as well, and alsoone that says we are not expected to complete the work of creation, but neither are we free to ignore it and do nothing. In other words, a balanced and honest caring life, and let God (or whatever is out there) worry about the judging. You are a part of existence, and as such you matter in the same way the number "3" does to mathematics... its one number equal to all others, but also it is by nature irreplacable, needed, and unique.

	::Happy existence and new year! ] <sup><span style="font-style:italic">(] \| ])</span></sup> 19:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:It depends on how you define "in the great scheme of things". Reading articles like ] (especially the ] option, which seems most probable at the moment) can make one feel like ''nothing'' that anyone does on this planet will ever amount to a hill of beans "in the great scheme of things". But helping a child live and learn can make one feel like every little thing can matter "in the great scheme of things". It depends where you set your sights and your scope. Most of the people who have had major effects on the entire world have been monsters. A rare few have helped for the better. It's not necessarily an enviable position. Remember ]'s conclusion: start by "tending your own garden," taking care of the things closest to you. If you can do that, you'll be better off than most of us, and the results will be more or less immediate. That's my philosophy, anyway. --] 19:31, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	I do not want to sound mean, but the very asking of this question reveals doubt. ] 20:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	:You realize, of course, that your question is classic ]. That does not make less of the question just points out that many have faced it and there is lots of helpful info and support to be found. --] 20:26, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	You need to answer this question yourself - society's opinion of you means nothing. Only you can judge yourself. (That's the direction I'm coming from.)
	Or to be more to the point - given what you've told us - No. they don't. It's pathetic. You really are a non-entity. Sorry!] 20:34, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	By the way you clearly don't seem to know the difference between 'me' and 'society' - you've painted a picture of a non-individual - take a look at ], or better still ], or any of these ], ], ], ], ], ], ]. Now I can return to my miserable existence. Thank you.] 20:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	Alternatively - Pull your socks up and make a contribution to the world instead of just filling your belly and your pockets! how does that sound.] 21:13, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:: I really do want to say thank you to all the above respondents who took the time and the trouble to take an active interest in my life - and its meaning and worth. I regard all the comments as valuable to me, without exception, especially the last one from the psychiatric hospital matron who advises me to 'pull my socks up'. A few of the comments have focused too closely on the literal interpretation of my OP question without considering the context of my expansion, but no worry, I still appreciate their contributions. But I especially thank Justanother for his/her input - I had already thought of mid-life-crisis but thought that too trite for someone like me who as well as having seen the Beatles and the Stones performing live, had also had Diana Ross sit on my knee on my 21st birthday, and sing, "Baby Love", in my left ear. Justanother is absolutely correct, I still have much to do and starting tomorrow, I am going to follow the advice given by Skarrioffszky. Thanks to all - immensely. And I intend to once again, skinny dip in the Meditteranean and the Pacific, minus my watch that can withstand mega sub-terranean atmospheres.
	:::You are very welcome. Though I think a "psychiatric hospital matron" would be more interested in giving you your medication than telling you to "Pull your socks up". That sort of stuff usually comes from your dad (laff). Or maybe your best friend (mine tells me to "count your blessings" when I am feeling down). --] 00:08, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

	== japanese seapost to USA ==

	In the 30th seapost was sent to USA by HIYE Maru, HEIAN MARU, TATSUTA MARU, ASAMA MARU, HIKAWA MARU, SHIZUOKA MARU; YOKOHAMA MARU
	Who knows anything about the boat class, schedule or duration of its journeys
	redjul

	:''Maru'' is not a class of ships, but a word attached to many Japanese merchant vessels: ]. ''Tatsuta Maru'' and ''Shizuoka Maru'' were both operated by ] (Japan Mail Steamship Company). ''Shizuoka Maru'' was some four thousand tons and built in 1912. A letter to ] dispatched from San Francisco March 22 arived in Japan April 11. I'm finding a few other random facts about the ships, for instance the British intercepted ''Asama Maru'' outside Yokohama and removed some Nazi officials who we enroute from the U.S., if you are interested.] 23:05, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Article title or suggestion please ==

	I'm unsure where to post this request. Could someone suggest the appropriate article covering government misrepresentation, censorship or mediation, in science? (ie, the correct subject title for the practice whereby scientific research and findings can be slanted to suit political agendas.)

	] doesn't seem quite right, there probably is some better page but I can't think what. It's an important subject not covered in censorship, and I'd like to see what is said about it in other articles if any, or what title such an article might be given (if written).

	''''. ] <sup><span style="font-style:italic">(] \| ])</span></sup> 19:00, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Scientific censorship? is a google of that. Also suppression of infomation; spin; sanitizing. --] 19:10, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:I don't think there's a specific term for specifically government misrepresentation of specifically scientific information. If you want to emphasize the government aspect, you call it "spin". If you want to emphasize the scientific aspect, you call it "bias" or "misrepresentation" or "censorship" or "scientific misconduct" or whatever. I'm not sure there's a catchall that emphasizes both at the same time. --] 19:50, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	::If you are desirous of creating an article on that based on the USEPA global warming report issue and other issues related to perhaps stem-cell research or right-to-life issue then I think entitling the article "Scientific censorship" or similar would be fine. --] 20:11, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	: The words ] and ] spring to mind, whether or not there's government involvement. Tending toward government involvement, there's ] and ]. American authors ] and ] have written much on this sort of thing. ] 20:13, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Looking for information on PH Mourey 1840 - 1910 ==

	I have very little information on the Sculpture Phillipe H Mourey (1840-1910), I know he worked for Japy Freres & Cie the clockmakers Beaucourt France in around 1870. I'm most interested to find out about his life story and if any photographs exist of him.
	How many other clocks did he design and what other work did he do apart from the clock designs.
	Thanks
	--] 19:27, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Seasonal question ==

	When did the old pagan mid winter festival get taken over by the Christians and become Christmas?--] 20:30, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	:I'm pretty sure it was at the time that Christianity was starting to become popular throughout the world. Didn't they do it to make the tansitition from Paganism to Christianity easier? ] 20:35, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:According to ], "It is unknown exactly when or why December 25 became associated with Jesus' birth." However, the article does give a fair bit of background on earlier festivals around the winter solstice and the gradual transition to celebrating Christmas around that time of year. — ]<i>]</i> 22:24, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	Exactly when the early Christians first started to celebrate the birth of Jesus on 25 December cannot be determined with any precision, though it was a well-established practice by the middle of the fourth century. But why they chose December 25 is a question that is far easier to answer: it was a date closely associated with an important mid-winter holiday and several religious festivals throughout the ancient world. It simply made good sense to transfer popular celebrations from one form of religious practice to another. ], the festival of Saturn, had been celebrated by the Romans for generations in late December, the high point of which was 25 December, the winter solstice. In the third century the Emperor Aurelian gave the day an even greater sacred focus by bringing the cult of ]-the all conquering sun-from the east. The birthday of Sol Invictus was celebrated on 25 December. The day is also associated with the worship of ], ] and ], uniting Persian, Egyptian and Greek traditions. As the Bible itself makes no mention of the date of Jesus' birth, and it was celebrated by different Christian groups on various dates, from January right through to May, it made better political sense, especially as the number of converts began to grow, to centre the event on a day that people were already familiar with. Incidentally, the whole question of Christ's birth, and the celebration of Christmas, became a matter of some contention after the Reformation. Stricter Protestant sects dismissed the festival as a pagan practice devoid of scriptural authority; and it was finally banned outright in the seventeenth century by the ]. This hostility towards Christmas continued amongst some groups right into the late Victorian age, as those of you familiar with ]'s memoir, ''Father and Son'', may recall. ] 23:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Willy On Wheels ==

	Everywhere on Misplaced Pages there is something about Willy On Wheels. Who the heck was Willy On Wheels? I heard that he was some sort of vandal but I've looked everywhere and nothing says what he did. Was he like the "devil" in a sense? Thanks. ] 21:21, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	:Page move vandal. Best to google it as it is a disallowed article here. --] 21:24, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	:See ].  --]] 21:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:I've tried to write something up on him, see ]. Basically, he was one of the early vandals. ] 22:04, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:See also ]. We have removed most discussions of him. ]\|] 23:46, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	Holy crud, ]! How did he change the Misplaced Pages Logo like that? Thats crazy! Just how did he manage to do that without people noticing for a few minutes? ] 22:19, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	:Uhuh, see ]. ]\|] 23:48, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

	What would happen if, say, some user who had never vandalized before suddenly claimed that ''they'' were WoW and then still didn't vandalize? Would you think that they were doing it for atention or would you ask an admin to block him/her? ] 00:21, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

	== timewasting questions ==

	Im quite disturbed by all the timewasting questions being asked on[REDACTED] reference desks lately. Dont you have a method to find and silence the perpretators for Gods sake? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 23:39, 17 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->
	:Yes, we ask you to please stop. Please stop. Thank you. --] 23:47, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
	::<sarcasm>Well, we ''could'' block all people in the world from editing Misplaced Pages and then throw the server into the atlantic ocean after filling it with jell-o, or we could launch the server into the sun, or hire an assassin to kill everyone who ever used Misplaced Pages, but aside from that I just can't figure out anything else... </sarcasm>] 00:08, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


	MMgghhh! I see you are intelligent woman. we also have intelligent woman in my country. We like your fightiness Justanother. So just to keep peace between our two countries, I say we equal OK?

	o yes I forget. My freind Igor (my servant) say he like you very much and can he meet you sometime, someplace?

	== Garlic Salt/Powder ==

	What is the major difference between Garlic Salt and Garlic Powder?

	== DVD Thin Pack ==

	Is this a stripped down version, without the extras/outtakes/documentaries? The set I'm considering buying comes in two versions, with the Thin Pack half the price of the other. ] 01:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

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January 11

Young adult novel series called Blitzkrieg

Does anybody remember who was the author of a novel series, aimed at middle and high school students called Blitzkrieg? It was about a high school football team and I think it was or were published in the 1970s or 1980s. --Donmust90-- Donmust90 (talk) 00:49, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

The series was actually called Blitz and was written by Paul Nichols (about whom we don't seem to have an article). There are some examples here. --Viennese Waltz 07:46, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

"Paul Nichols" is the pen name of Robert Hawks (b. 1961). More about him here. He has also published under his own name, as well as young-adult horror under the pen name "M. T. Coffin" :). In any case, neither the author nor the books appear to meet Misplaced Pages's notability criteria. --Lambiam 09:42, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

January 20

Yokohama Chinatown

Detective Conan Episode 418 (14:31-14:56). Please, can you help me to find the name of the dress and the sword of that Chinese antique shop's owner, and that of the statue's face? You can see also these three files: 1, 2, 3. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.17.55.190 (talk) 10:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Don't post your question on more than one desk. Entertainment was the right place for it. --Viennese Waltz 09:06, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Trump presidencies

Hello. Trump's current term is as the 47th president. The previous term, (45th), should be put together with the old respective dates in the template (2017-2021). Better not to merge the two terms together, it makes no sense, they are two different things: terms, dates and presidencies. Don't you agree? 93.150.82.178 (talk) 17:37, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

The reference desk is not the place to discuss this. Better venues may be Talk:Donald Trump or (since the issue transcends the specific person who now happens to be in office) Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Presidents of the United States. The problem may be due to a limitation of {{Infobox officeholder}}, the design of which does not accommodate the possibility that the incumbent is a repeat offender. For the only other repeat offender thus far, Grover Cleveland, the issue could not arise since his repeated incumbency did not overlap with the lifetime of {{Infobox officeholder}}. --Lambiam 21:39, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

If I'm reading the documentation right, you should be able to do it with that template. Use the office field for the first term and the office2 field for the second term, with term_start and term_end being the dates for the first term, and term_start2 and term_end2 being the dates for the second term. Or maybe vice versa? --Trovatore (talk) 22:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

These infoboxes list offices (being) held in reverse chronological order, each with a heading identifying the office in a light bluish grey banner, like 13th Head honcho of Team America , below which there is an unbannered heading Assuming office, Assumed office or In office.

The convention for nonconsecutive terms of an office held is that they are combined under one light bluish grey banner, as seen e.g. for Jerry Brown, 34th & 39th Governor of California .

The convention for current office holders is the appearance of a second banner Incumbent , immediately below the office banner but in the same style; see e.g. Gavin Newsom.

These two conventions don't combine well. --Lambiam 08:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

January 21

Peugeot models only available Europe or North America

Which models of Peugeot, made from 1970 to 2010, could be available only in North America if Peugeot was participating in the North American market?--Donmust90-- Donmust90 (talk) 20:45, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't think they made any model specifically for the North American market. They modified some existing models to make them conform to North American rules. The range of available models was always much smaller than in Europe. Xuxl (talk) 11:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

You may be interested in Here’s how Peugeot tried and failed to remain relevant in America (YouTube clip). Alansplodge (talk) 11:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

January 23

Year in review

I just received the WP year in review summary. 100 million edits world wide seemed low to me, until I saw 4+ billion bytes figure. Still trying to wrap my mind around these statistics. Did WP publish any kind of "deep dive" into this statistical analysis: minor vs major edits, bots, logged in vs logged off, etc.? Thanks. Ditch ∝ 15:36, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

January 24

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