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== Thank you for replying ==


== Your BRFA ==
dear Primefac,
thank you for your reply,
i suppose i did what you recommend me now and waiting the result.
as i'm a beginner on this and need time to start understanding the process.
meanwhile stay safe :)


Hello Primefac, your BRFA at ] was approved. Best regards, — ] <sup>]</sup> 12:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
== Devaagyh Dixit ==
:Thanks. ] (]) 12:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


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I don't understand why you have deleted this page, without leaving any comment on my talk page? What was wrong in it, that kid is guinness world record holder. He holds several world records in his name, what part did you not understand. Or you guys here for bullying only?


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This is sick mentality you just showed, Are you getting bored in this lockdown and just for fun started deleting wiki created by other users?
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:] I would really appreciate if you can please look into it. How can he delete a wiki without any warning or notification?
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::{{u|Poojasharma20}}, the draft was incredibly promotional; from reading the page it sounds like he's just the best at everything. In deference to your interest in writing the article I have restored it to the draft space, but I would strongly encourage you to submit it for review through the ] process by placing {{tls|submit}} at the top of the page. ] (]) 16:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)


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Thank you for restoring to draft space, can it not be moved to AFD instead. I am ok to contest. ] (]) 21:58, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
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:{{u|Poojasharma20|You}} are welcome to move it back to the article space if you feel it meets the inclusion criteria. I do note that the page has been cleaned up somewhat since deletion. ] (]) 16:46, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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* Following ], ] was adopted as a ].
:*A ] asks whether the ] should allowed any unblock request or just private appeals.
* A ] is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.
:*The Wikimedia Foundation {{plainlink|https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2020/05/22/wikimedia-foundation-board-announces-community-culture-statement|announced}} that they will develop a universal code of conduct for all WMF projects. There is an open ] regarding the same.
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* The Nuke feature also now ] to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.


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* Following the ], the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: {{noping|CaptainEek}}, {{noping|Daniel}}, {{noping|Elli}}, {{noping|KrakatoaKatie}}, {{noping|Liz}}, {{noping|Primefac}}, {{noping|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, {{noping|Theleekycauldron}}, {{noping|Worm That Turned}}.
:* A ] was passed to enact a ] restriction on {{tq|articles related to the history of Jews and antisemitism in Poland during World War II (1933–45), including the Holocaust in Poland}}. Article talk pages where disruption occurs may also be managed with the stated restriction.

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== Ismaila Isa Funtua ==
Hi, I created the ] article, and just noticed you deleted the article over copyright infringement. Kindly assist in editing and re-upload. Thanks <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 01:46, 4 June 2020 (UTC)</small>
:I will not restore the content because it is a copyright violation. You are welcome to recreate the article but you '''''must''''' write it in your own words. ] (]) 16:43, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

== 1292simon ==

Hello. I would like to address some concerns regarding recent AfC reviews, particularly with user {{noping|1292simon}}. I invited the user to join the WikiProject a few days ago after noticing some reviews he made on other drafts, as I did not see him listed as a participant. He has since not acknowledged my message and has continued to review submissions against advisory: {{tq|Editors whose usernames are not on the list are strongly cautioned not to review AfC submissions.}} Is there a way this can be addressed to the user? Thanks in advance! ] ] 08:15, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
:I was asked the same question ], and I have to say I haven't had an opportunity to really look into their reviews. As I said then, there's nothing ''prohibiting'' them from reviewing drafts, but of course if they are not doing ''good'' reviews then we can potentially look into taking administrative action against them. ] (]) 19:52, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

== hijacker ==

heya the hijacker is back, is the one you deleted yesterday under a slightly different name. needs a block. For context, see . ] (]) 13:05, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
:Looks like it's been taken care of. ] (]) 19:57, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

== Date errors in 'Lists of killings ... States, <month> <year>' ==

I think (from edit ) you were involved in a conversion of these pages from yearly to monthly. I find the structure confusing, but the end result is that the current state is that ''all'' pages have a lede sentence saying it is a list of killings in 2020, regardless of what year and month the list page is actually giving data for. This affects the popup preview of the page when hovering over the links in ], as well as the text of the page itself.

I hope you can figure out where macro or template stuff is going wrong, or otherwise fix this problem. Thanks. --] (]) 17:39, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
:Actually, it was an error elsewhere, but I've fixed it. Thank you for letting me know.
:If you have further suggestions on how to make it a little more user-friendly I'm happy to hear them. I moved away from the "yearly" lists because those pages weren't actually showing the monthly totals, and to combine them all into one page would make the list/page too big. ] (]) 19:48, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
:: One thing I've noted is the annoyance that each of the tables is presented in reverse chronological order, the opposite of common convention. This is probably a holdover from the time it was part of one big list, where it might arguably be a positive attribute. In present form, I think it has none. Unfortunately, it seems revision of the order would, because of wikitable restriction, require reordering of all entries. That makes it an unreasonable burden to achieve conventional ordering, and clicking the date sort icon is not a huge burden for each reader, so we can live with the current table default ordering.
:: I'm not sure whether having the table in the root article give the number of entries in the lists is really a positive or not. It's probably a bit useful to editors looking for months with low coverage to work on, but many readers may be likely to mistake the numbers for the numbers of killings rather than the number of entries (despite the verbiage above the table). I suppose the numbers could be available in a default-hidden table, while the main table just has a link to the list page (say using the month abbreviation). That might be a way to serve both the naive reader and the more sophisticated reader. --] (]) 05:37, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
:::Yeah, the date order predates my time working on the pages. As far as "entries vs killings", could you give an example? I was under the impression that the table was ''only'' supposed to list killings; if there are "shootings" not resulting in death, then they should probably be removed. ] (]) 15:30, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
:::: I didn't get that across right. I don't know of any nonfatal table entries. The issue I was bringing up is that the numbers in the main table of ] are not counts of the number of people killed by officers in a given month or year, but rather counts of how many have been documented on the related WP List page. The latter number is a small, often ''very'' small, subset of the former number. A naive reader might look at it and think that only 200 were killed in 2016, but other sources put the total for 2016 much higher (e.g., shows 1093). That reader was misled by the presence of the number because he assumed it meant the thing obvious to him: that the number was an approximately right count or estimate of the total number of killings. (Instead, of course, it's just a number resulting from the hit-or-miss activity of WP editors.) I was suggesting avoiding this sort of misleading presentation by not showing those numbers by default. Rather than dropping them entirely, I thought it would be better to keep the numbers available in a "hidden" place (maybe just like the current table), that a reader has to press a "Show" button to expose (a common construct on WP). --] (]) 18:47, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::Ah, yes, I see what you mean. I can revise. ] (]) 19:15, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

== Suspicious move by ] ==

Hi, {{u|Primefac}} I am unable to understand what is this as per this . See the page history . Please have a look. Than you. ] ] 15:36, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
:Someone put a {{t|submit}} tag on the template page, which was then moved to the draft space because "that's where drafts go". I do see that it's been reverted; I probably won't protect the page (given that it's a sandbox) but I'll likely move-protect it just to keep this from happening in the future. ] (]) 17:55, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

== ] ==

The user does exist - it is registered as User:RedWarn. There are links pointing to this page and its talk, so it should not be deleted. <span style="background-color:#000000;">''']]]'''</span> 21:47, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
:] and ] are two different accounts; the former exists and the latter does not. I don't know where you're getting this "it's linked to" thing, because they are unequivocally '''not''' linked from anything. ] (]) 21:55, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
::User talk:Redwarn is linked to. <span style="background-color:#000000;">''']]]'''</span> 22:57, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
:::Sure, from a discussion where you gave the link. As near as I can tell, the ''only'' links to these two user/user talk pages are where you've linked them as part of a message about "these are linked". ] (]) 23:16, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

== Afc Deny ==

Hi, so you are giving regularly users with less than 20-30 edits per day and perhaps 2-3k edits in total the Afc Rights only because they had been logged in 90 days ago!? I am sorry and I know it is pretty unpopular to challenge the rules but this makes no sense at all. I have 130 edits in average per day with a 2% revert quote so I honestly think that I have by far more experience than lots of others whom has given the right. Honestly disappointing and de-motivating. ] (]) 06:47, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
:I think I'll make a counter-example that in a lot of places a 14-year-old is considered unsuitable to drive, even if they have been "driving" (i.e. on a farm or illegally) since they were 12; most countries still require that individual to reach 16 or 18 before being legally allowed to drive. Experience is just one of the metrics we use, "time on the project" is another. The decline is not saying that you can ''never'' help out at AFC, just that you have to wait a little longer. ] (]) 15:41, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
::{{u|Primefac}}, well, chapeau, don't want to extend this unnecessarily but at all the 90 days rules without being able to make exemptions makes no sense, I am editing on all frontlines here (Vandalism, AfCs, COI, CopyVios, Welcoming, CE etc etc) so objectively I am doing a lot of stuff, more than 90% of the AfC approved guys. But of course I will not going to ask any 30 days "oh please, please sysops, let me help you doing your work/reducing your backlog ;)" - I (and any other surely) will stop or at least reduce it. Anyway, thanks for taking the time answering my concerns. ] (]) 16:04, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
:::I'm just one person, if you feel the rules should be bent, feel free to post at ]. ] (]) 16:14, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

== NOC codes ==

Hi, I wanted to ask for some changes in ] but before that I wanted to make sure about one thing, I see for some countries like Bahrain you added all previous or current codes into the list, BRN, BHR, BHN. I'm curious if you are OK do that for some other countries ? I mean what's the policy about that ? thanks. ] (]) 15:13, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
:The short answer is yes, we can add former codes. The slightly longer answer is that those codes are old/deprecated, so if the code was used in an older version of the Games the module needs to recognize that. On the other hand, I wouldn't be okay with arbitrarily adding "SPA" as a shortcut for Spain, because it has (as far as I'm aware) never been used as a three-letter code to represent it. What are you looking to add? ] (]) 15:36, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
:: TMP for East Timor. they used that code for 2002 Asian Games, . actually I was taking a look at this page ] I have to check old documents carefully before asking for any other change, for a simple reason that IOC standardized codes only in 1972 so it's better to not use those pre-1972 codes because they were just random letters used by the host nation. I was curious if it's technically possible to use the same code for more than one country ? for example VNM showing Vietnam for some years and South Vietnam for some other years. I'm not asking for any change now, just want to know if that's even possible. ] (]) 16:03, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
:::Yeah, AIA got used by multiple countries, so I know how to do a workaround. I'll add in TMP. ] (]) 16:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
:::: Thanks again, I hope you don't mind me bothering you again and again. lol ] (]) 19:22, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::Not at all! Always happy to fix things. ] (]) 19:24, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
: Since you were nice I want to ask for some other changes, I checked some official reports to make sure there is no mistake, HOL=NED, NGU=PNG, SAU=KSA, they are mostly NOC codes used for the 1988 Olympics. but I have two more requests, first about Vietnam, right now VNM returns "South Vietnam" and VIE returns Vietnam. but in two Games, before the existence of South Vietnam they still used that code for "Vietnam" '''1954 Asian Games and 1952 Summer Olympics'''. so in short I want VNM returns Vietnam (and not South Vietnam) for those two Games. my last request is probably more complicated. currently MAL returns Malaya, but from what I saw they also used that for Malaysia for a very long time. before 1963 it was Malaya (with MAL as code) but after that until 1990 it was still MAL (but this time for Malaysia), is it possible to make all these exceptions ? 1964, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988 Summer Olympics and 1966, 1970, 1974, 1978, 1982, 1986 and 1990 Asian Games. ] (]) 22:22, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
::Okay, just to double-check:
::#Three new alternate codes, HOL=NED, NGU=PNG, and SAU=KSA
::#VNM essentially needs to trigger VIE for those two Games
::#After 1963 MAL is an alternate for MAS
::Should be doable, soon as I get confirmation. ] (]) 15:23, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
::: Sorry, I wasn't expecting you to message me back here, so I didn't check, I just came to ask you again but then I saw your response.
:::# Yes, sure
:::# Yes, exactly
:::# Yes, until 1990, for 1992 Olympic Games they started using MAS. I know this last one is probably not easy to adjust.
:::] (]) 17:22, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
::::Yeah, probably should have pinged you. Will get on this soon. ] (]) 19:36, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

== Speedy Deletion of Gines Serran-Pagan ==

Hello Primefac, Im Oilenroc who created the article Gines Serran-Pagan which was tagged for speedy deletion, I'm new in Misplaced Pages so I'm in the process of working around how to use it. may I know if I can still
contest the article that I did because compiling and fixing the footnotes took me a lot of months just by fixing it and I have no any copy of it to rewrite my article, I stated there that I know personally
the person Gines , Im helping him create his wiki site because he's already a 70+ who also doesn't know how to use wiki, I only rely my support through wiki community, but since Im also a full time employee
i have less days to check it. Im also looking for professionals who knows wiki writing but its expensive, Its a bit e I been asking the community for help but support is limited aside from providing me links so its taking time for me to polish the article, hope there's a way that I can get what I created it to fix it. it took me 6 months just by creating that short article hopefully I can retrieve it back. ] (]) 02:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
:{{u|Oilenroc}}, I will not restore the content of the draft, because it was word-for-word taken from other sources. However, I do understand the work that goes into formatting and collating 38 references, so I have restored your page to ] with only the references. When you create a new version of the page, please make sure everything is written in your own words. ] (]) 13:57, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

==Revision deletion==
An IP today added a paragraph to ], an article on my watchlist. Suspecting it might be a copyvio, I checked and found that it was identical to , which may date to 1989, or perhaps 1959. Assuming it is a copyvio, is it bad practice for me to revdel it myself, or should I request revdel as I used to do when I discovered copyvios before I was in a position to do revdels myself? In my view it is useful to have two people look at a case like this, because it is often far from clear cut. ] (]) 18:08, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
:If it's clear-cut, just do it yourself; I generally only go for a 2O when it's on the borderline or I cannot determine providence by myself. ] (]) 18:11, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

== Article name at main-space and copy-paste issue==

Hi, {{u|Primefac}} Is ] a valid article name in main-space? The page also has copy-paste and copyright issues too. See Please have a look. Thank you.] ] 12:22, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
:Clearly a typo in page creation, and I see it's been moved to the proper location. ] (]) 13:33, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

== Harassment for reporting at ] by ] ==

Hi {{u|Primefac}} I am being harassed for reporting ] case at ] by ] at my talk page. The person has also filed something at French Misplaced Pages, see (https://fr.wikipedia.org/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Requ%C3%AAte_aux_administrateurs#Appropriation_et_comportement_%C3%A0_l%27encontre_des_r%C3%A8gles_de_Wikipedia). Please help and have a look. Thank you.] ] 14:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
:{{u|Amkgp}}, that's hardly harassment; you brought the user to SPI, and now they're questioning why you did that. ] (]) 14:55, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
::Ok got everything now. Thank you for the clarifications and help. ] ] 15:05, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
:::No. It's not okay dear {{u|Amkgp}} .You can't make accusations against me and just walk away. You slandered me. You made an unmerited accusation against me. You need to apologize. Thank you a lot {{u|Primefac}}. ] ] 15:05, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
:::Plus, {{u|Amkgp}}, I suspect you're against the Misplaced Pages rules. I have the right to write about myself. See : "I'm writing about myself, or a close person/subject" See this in (https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Article_wizard/CommonMistakes) 17:22, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
::::{{u|Jamesnemesis}}, they can do exactly that; just like in the real world, there are no repercussions for making good-faith but completely incorrect accusations/assumptions about people. This is not a situation where ] would come into play - they made an honest mistake (i.e. not realising that you were soft-blocked) which can be justified by their (relatively) short tenure on Misplaced Pages (i.e. I still classify them as a "new editor"). They haven't "broken" any rules, they're just not seeing the full picture.
::::In other words, a mistake was made, but no long-term harm has come of it. If either of you have further questions or concerns in I'm happy to discuss them. ] (]) 15:35, 9 June 2020 (UTC) {{small|And on a minor point, "slander" is spoken attacks, while "libel" is written. In other words, there never was any slander}}
{{u|Primefac}}, thank you ! I don't think it was done in good-faith, but that's no big deal. As long as you're here to make it right. Having said that, I was wondering if there was any chance of taking back a deleted draft. I really want to rework the article, removing the useless "promotional" part and leaving only the facts. Is that possible ?] ] 17:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
:{{u|Jamesnemesis}}, I have restored your draft at ], but if what was in the (now removed) version is the entire truth, then chances are you do not meet the inclusion criteria of Misplaced Pages. There needs to be significant coverage in independent ] that talk about you; if those don't exist, then the draft is a non-starter. ] (]) 16:00, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
:::{{u|Primefac}}, Well, thank you again ! Mostly I needed the code for the page. And yes, I understand perfectly. I need to flesh out my article with a larger biography and facts. And I definitely need reliable sources. It's still WIKIPEDIA, not a family magazine. If I may make a joke... Thank you for everything and have a nice day ! You're doing a great job. Really Great. ] ] 18:15, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
{{u|Primefac}}, P.S : Can I add the languages spoken in the infobox person ? - I'm sorry if I'm taking up too much of your time. ] ] 18:21, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
:"Languages spoken" is not a field at the infobox displays. If it has to be included in the draft, it should probably be in the body of the text. ] (]) 16:25, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
{{u|Primefac}}, All Right. Thank you.] ]

==Draft:Antje Weithaas==
]'s copyright violation notice at ] was unwarranted. The supposedly infringed source site says clearly: . I suggest to restore that draft. -- ] (]) 01:16, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
:{{u|Michael Bednarek}}, I restored it but now we can remove it because this is the English Misplaced Pages and not a place for an article in German, right? ]] 11:39, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks for the restore. There are more than 2 dozen articles on EN WP with her name, plus in 3 ]. I assume that the draft's creator, ], will get around to translating and otherwise making it fit for EN WP ]. -- ] (]) 12:09, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
:::Thanks for taking care of that; it's incredibly rare for drafts to be reverse copyvio so I honestly didn't think to check the source; I'll be a bit more cautious in the future, but it would also be helpful if the copy was mentioned on the draft page itself as well! ] (]) 12:27, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== Sorry to disturb ==

Hello sorry to disturb you on a Friday but I’d have to ask; is there any such thing as a personal AFC log? In the same manner as a personal AFD, CSD & PROD log exists is there such a thing as a personal AFC log that exists or rather, that can be configured/activated/installed? which catalogues all AFC articles reviewed by me? ] (]) 22:43, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
:There is, at the moment, no log that I know of. I suppose it could be added to AFCH if there were enough interest in it. At the moment the closest thing would be to do an edit summary search for the AFCH code the script leaves during a review. ] (]) 19:38, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hello! Here are some clarifications related to the suspected copyright violation ("unambiguous copyright infringement"). arXiv.org "does not ask that copyright be transferred" from an author to arXiv.org (see https://arxiv.org/help/license). arXiv.org just asks permission from the author to post his preprint paper online for free dessimination. Thus, there are no a copyright violation in the case under consideration.] (]) 07:57, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
:Let me ping {{u|Sphilbrick}} and {{u|Diannaa}}, who are my usual go-to folks for second opinions on copyright violations. The main issue is the juxtaposition of the , which is not a ''transfer'' of copyright, and the ], which ''is'' protected post-publication. In other words, you let arxiv post your paper, but you still hold the copyright.
:On a semi-related note, a subject that you researched and has not really been written about by others falls under "original research" (quite literally) and ]; even if I were to restore the page, I'm not sure it would survive a deletion discussion. ] (]) 15:13, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
::{{u|Primefac}}, Diannaa beat me to it but I concur. it may just be my imagination but I think I've seen more instances of something like this happening recently. Some journals are subscription only and I don't know whether they are moving to open access or I am just seeing more open access journals, but there's a difference between open access and acceptably licensed. I think some editors are noticing that the journals are accessible and incorrectly inferring that it can be used. ]] 16:12, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
:::Yes, that was my thought as well. Thank you both for the assistance. ] (]) 16:13, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
:Making something publicly available is not the same thing as releasing it into the ] or releasing it under a ]. The paper still enjoys copyright protection unless stated otherwise. It's not okay to add copyright material to Misplaced Pages, even if you are the author. If you are the copyright holder and wish to release this material under a compatible license, please see ] for an explanation of how to do it. There's a sample permission email at ].— ]&nbsp;(]) 15:17, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

== Is this a valid Template? ==

Hi, {{u|Primefac}} I came across ]. My query is whether this is a valid template. Thank you.] ] 16:01, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
:Valid? Sure. Necessary? Probably not. It really depends on what it's being used for; if it's ''only'' so the text isn't on ], then no (since single-use templates are frowned upon). If the intention is to have it eventually be used/populated across all fifty state articles, then it ''could'' be useful. ] (]) 16:15, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
:::{{u|Amkgp}} and {{u|Primefac}}, I created this template because I want to be able to reuse the table on other articles (], ], etc.) and transcluding only the part of the article that contains this table kept breaking the parser for some reason. Unfortunately, creating this template did not solve the issue. Do you know why the following does not work as expected? <code><nowiki>{{List of disc golf courses in the United States}}</nowiki></code> The following errors display in most cells: <code><nowiki>Expression error: Unexpected / operator%
Expression error: Unexpected < operator</nowiki></code> -] (]) 16:21, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
::::I can take a look. ] (]) 16:28, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
::::I think I've figured it out - I can't find any documentation on the issue, but it would appear that you can't LST the same page twice in one template call. In other words, there's no issue with ] transcluding ] which transcludes ] (i.e. <code><nowiki>{{#lst:Disc golf|USA}}</nowiki></code>, but the "list of" can't call itself twice (as seen in with the {{tlx|lst|AL}} calls). I think the only way around it would be to either put all of the "used multiple times" numbers inside of a template and call that, OR type the values in manually (which would require 4 changes each time the values changed), OR (as a more-involved third option) put the data values into a module and build the entire table that way. Not 100% sure, but I think the way it's currently set up is a no-go as far as transclusion goes. ] (]) 17:56, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::I think the first solution is more elegant. A single, centralized template with raw data that gets transcluded by all other pages and templates will be easier to scale and maintain. How about something like ]? -] (]) 18:04, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
::::::That's already used, and if it's going to be disc golf-centred, it should probably have a related name. If anything, just have it be a subtemplate of {{t|List of disc golf courses in the United States}}. ] (]) 18:28, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::::No, I meant conceptually. I know that ] used a simpler Misplaced Pages-based template with switches a few years ago, before switching to the current Lua template hosted on . I like the universality and the centralization of the latter because it will make the data easily accessible to Misplaced Pages editions in other languages, but I am not familiar with the workflow and I worry that most users will not know how to update the numbers. Is it possible to store data on there in a user-friendly table instead of a json-ish layout? ] (]) 18:36, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
::::::::I'm not sure where you're getting the majority of the numbers, but yes, once it ends up in a switch it can be formatted to make it a bit more obvious where and how to update numbers. ] (]) 18:38, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Check out ]; course numbers are entered manually based on data from the . A weekly bot keeping the numbers up to date wouldn't hurt, but it is not the highest priority right now. Country population data is fetched by ], which transcludes it from the ] article. Country dry area data is static for now, but it should be reasonably accurate since it rarely changes as long as country borders remain intact. ] (]) 18:56, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::I've started going down a rabbit hole. Will probably take me a day or three to get everything coded. ] (]) 19:36, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::Huge thanks for the template cleanup! I will base future templates on your solution. The only minor detail to iron out would be the ] issue, for which I submitted a request. Also, in ], it would be better if the "total number of courses in the USA" were the sum of values in the ] subtemplate instead of a separate source. That way, we can avoid discrepancies in percentages. ] (]) 03:09, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

== ]==

Hello, can you please reverse the deletion of the page I created yesterday titled Alexandria Smith. I do not believe that the whole page was a copyright infringement. I will gladly reword the sentences that were similar to her CV on her website https://www.alexandriasmith.com/pagecv. Thank you, ] (]) 21:21, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Robinsonj7 6/16/2020
:It was pretty much entirely a copyvio. I'm willing to restore it to the Draft space, but it would be stripped down to only the non-infringing text and the references. ] (]) 14:41, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

== Whitgift Misplaced Pages Page ==

Dear Primefac,

How are you? I hope all is well.
I would like to update Whitgift School's wikipedia page. There are a number of facts and figures that are incorrect and the page generally needs updating.
I am new to Misplaced Pages but can see the page is semi-protected. Is there a way to unlock it so that the necessary changes can be made? If not, what are my other options?

Look forward to hearing from you.
Whitgifitian 17.06.20 13.38
] (]) 12:38, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
:{{u|Whitgiftian}}, you should go to the article's Talk page, click "New Section" (found at the top of the page) and use an {{t|Edit semi-protected}} request to propose changes. As a minor note, you might want to look into ], as it could be ] (and thus not allowed). ] (]) 14:38, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your help.
] (]) 21:34, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

== Corrects birth year ==

] (]) 14:28, 18 June 2020 (UTC)== Corrects birth year ==

What would be exceptable to source a DOB for Sarah Nagourney? Also, why would adding a DOB be considered controversial? She has in the past used a year 10 years past her real DOB. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:24, 18 June 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Apologies, the message I left is a generic "unsourced BLP" message, which includes the (sometimes unnecessary) bit about "controversial" information. The information needs to be supported by a ], not just by deducing the information from a photograph or a user-generated website like IMDb, Wordpress, or GeoCities. ] (]) 14:39, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I had only been adding the DOB as I thought all profiles of living persons needed a DOB. ] (] <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 14:56, 18 June 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== About ] ==

] not high-risk template now.] (]) 01:08, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

== ] ==
*If you wanted to change ] to archive-once-a-month, best if you had discussed it with me, instead of leaving me with confusing changes. And, I prefer to preserve the commented "toolkits" at the start of the current month's accepted list and rejected list. Archiving once a month would create 4 times as many archives over the same time period and would make the list of archives unwieldily long. ] (]) 13:15, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
** Can I remind you of ], {{U|Anthony Appleyard}}. We're nearly 20 years into the Misplaced Pages project, we've got just over 6 million pages and just under 40 million users. There's nearly two decades of archives already in various locations, and we really desperately need to simplify archiving across the project, so people can find things easily. If that means generating four times as many archives, then I'd have to say 'too bad'. If the list of archives becomes unwieldingly long, that can be next on the list of things to fix, indeed, that would be easy to fix if you go to a nice, convenient monthly archive, you have a nice drop down list or even a calendar based archive list. ] (]) 14:47, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
**I was obviously unaware of your personal preference for archiving that page. There is no note saying how the archives are set up, and the ] simply makes it look like the months are archived sequentially. However, I don't see how "archiving once a month" means making four archives - if you noticed, I ] to Archive 36; if you want to keep them quarterly, that's fine, but in that case why not just archive May to ], and do the same at the beginning of July? There is no requirement for moving a page to archive it. I do agree with Nick, though, in that "how many" archives is a trivial matter. ] (]) 16:44, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


== Template issues ==
== Help regarding ] issue for ] ==


I don't think you intended (bot edit) with SNE.
Hi, {{u|Primefac}} I am in dilemma whether ] is a copyright violation as I am unable to determine whether https://uudb.org/articles/fanniebarrierwilliams.html is in ''public domain'' or not. Please find the ] report . Please have a look and thank you.] ] 15:39, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
:Bottom of the page, {{tq|All material copyright Unitarian Universalist History & Heritage Society }}. ] (]) 15:45, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
::{{u|Primefac}}, Thanks for the help and {{u|Curb Safe Charmer}} thanks for the necessary changes and comment intended for the editor/creator. ] ] 16:11, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


And your change to ] yesterday has a ] and a ] complaining (just those with "Redirect category shell" or "Rcat shell" mentioned, a few others that show in the searches are unrelated). Given how widely used the template is, I suspect these are just a "quirk, fix at end page" type of issue rather than something in the main template, but that's just based on quantity. I can't identify the specific issue and hope that you know what the issue is. ] (]) 06:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
== RE: G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement ==
:The first was a quirk of AWB subst'ing a template, thought I caught all of them but clearly not (thanks).
:I am not seeing any lint errors related to rcat shell on that page, nor when I search for the template. Where should I be looking to find them? ] (]) 07:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::Oops, broke the links in thinking I could wikilink them by removing the part before "Special:". and is where I'm seeing these issues. And in case these links post funny, they are in Stripped tags, article and template space. . ] (]) 13:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::I am headed out the door, but when I'm back in a few hours I'll give it my full attention. ] (]) 14:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::::So I ''think'' this has to do with the {{para|h}} parameter in the rcat shell. Nothing I did really ''changed'' anything: it went from a switch that called four different templates to a switch that called a single template (which, incidentally, called the same four templates which had simply been moved to subpages). If there are errors it's probably because {{para|h}} is using :: whereas the other rcats (including {{t|r protected}}) use **. I'm not really sure why my edit triggered the lint errors if that's the case, though. ] (]) 21:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::I'm not sure why your edit triggered the lints either, but I think the problem is that the <code><nowiki><div class="rcat rcat-R_semi-protected"></nowiki></code> is on the "::" line, while the closing <code><nowiki></div></nowiki></code> is on an empty line. This is easy to see on ], using <syntaxhighlight>
{{redirect category shell|
|h=Test
}}</syntaxhighlight> and setting the context title to that of a protected page. The opening div is at the end of the second line. I'm not sure what the correct place is to add the newline, whether it should be conditional on something, etc., but I hope this helps. --] (]) 12:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::Oh! Interesting. I'll play around in rcat's sandbox and see if I can get a fix going. ] (]) 13:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Uh... ]. ] (]) 13:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks, that worked! --] (]) 15:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you both! Yup, that cleared everything related to this issue in Mainspace, and cleared most of the templates. I'm not sure if the remaining 6 templates claiming this issue are being lazy and haven't picked up the change yet (despite purging) and just need a bit of time, or if they need an additional tweak, but it doesn't seem to be affecting functionality, so I'm not too concerned and tempted to wait and see.
::::::::It never fails to surprise me how some things can't stand other things being on the same line, and others can't stand being apart. ] (]) 16:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


== I won't to need the seasonal events ==
Hello. Could you read this message I wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:CommanderWaterford&diff=963412931&oldid=963392984 ? It isn't an unambiguous copyright infringement. Greetings. <span style="color:#0645AD">Tajotep</span> (]) 17:43, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
:Hi guys, there was no indication that the wordpress article had been copied by the original WK Article, almost impossible to detect. Sorry. ] (]) 17:45, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
::{{u|CommanderWaterford}} It is very obviously a reverse copyvio and is easily detected if you look at a revision prior to the date of the blog post. The blog was posted 9/19/2016. Our article with a diff prior to this (9/2/2016) already has the content and the link literally says: "{{tq|From Misplaced Pages July 16, 2016:}}. In the future please be more careful and look at revision history. ] (]) 17:50, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
:::{{u|Praxidicae}}, it was marked as copyvio by three persons, also in NPP and earwig&turnitin - I would not say that it was obvious to be seen. But, I made a mistake. Mea culpa. ] (]) 17:58, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
::::That's the funny thing about reverse copyvio, if it's not a mirror site (which Earwig and others ignore) it's easy to miss (Earwig isn't "smart" enough to check and see if a "copied from Misplaced Pages" notice is present). Live and learn! ] (]) 17:59, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
:Yeah, {{u|Tajotep}}, that's entirely my fault; I genuinely don't know how I missed your page creation edit summary. Restored. ] (]) 17:52, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


In ] there are many pages that use this template, especially the Olympics, so it is necessary to change from ] to ]. Also, pages that use ] but are locked specifically on the ] page should be changed now and any pages that ] but are for a single game should be kept as well. ] (]) 08:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
== there is 83.7.0.0/16 blocked for '''WHOLE DECADE''' ==
:If improvements can be made to an existing navbox, suggest changes to that navbox, don't just make an entirely new one that is little more than a copy. Thank you for pointing out the flaws in the current template; I am working on an upgrade. ] (]) 10:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)


== RE: ] ==
*https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A83.7.0.0%2F16


The legislation is neutral, unbiased content.
because of this


I only added quotes from notable people. It was not self-promotion, and it is unfortunate that that was misunderstood.
subsets such as:


The legislation alone really helps the article on an education topic. ] (]) 17:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
*https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A83.7.192.0%2F18
:It was also directly copied from the source, which is ]. ] (]) 18:20, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
*https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A83.7.128.0%2F18
::I changed the wording for the legislation. I can drastically improve that part. The article is about education, and the legislation addresses the education issue. Education is an important issue in terms of articles. ] (]) 18:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
:::You are welcome to re-add any content that was removed, provided you write it in your own words. ] (]) 18:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Okay, thanks. ] (]) 18:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)


== fifteen years ==
can be removed. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:46, 19 June 2020 (UTC)</small>
:I suppose. ] (]) 18:47, 19 June 2020 (UTC) On upcoming January 23, you will complete 15 years here {{p|:d}} —usernamekiran ] 18:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
:It does appear that way, doesn't it! I would probably make the argument that my singular 2010 edit doesn't really count though ;-) ] (]) 18:46, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

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Template issues

I don't think you intended this outcome (bot edit) with SNE.

And your change to Template:Redirect category shell yesterday has a few articles and a few templates complaining (just those with "Redirect category shell" or "Rcat shell" mentioned, a few others that show in the searches are unrelated). Given how widely used the template is, I suspect these are just a "quirk, fix at end page" type of issue rather than something in the main template, but that's just based on quantity. I can't identify the specific issue and hope that you know what the issue is. Zinnober9 (talk) 06:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

The first was a quirk of AWB subst'ing a template, thought I caught all of them but clearly not (thanks).
I am not seeing any lint errors related to rcat shell on that page, nor when I search for the template. Where should I be looking to find them? Primefac (talk) 07:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Oops, broke the links in thinking I could wikilink them by removing the part before "Special:". articles here and templates here is where I'm seeing these issues. And in case these links post funny, they are in Stripped tags, article and template space. This is one such page. Zinnober9 (talk) 13:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I am headed out the door, but when I'm back in a few hours I'll give it my full attention. Primefac (talk) 14:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
So I think this has to do with the |h= parameter in the rcat shell. Nothing I did really changed anything: it went from a switch that called four different templates to a switch that called a single template (which, incidentally, called the same four templates which had simply been moved to subpages). If there are errors it's probably because |h= is using :: whereas the other rcats (including {{r protected}}) use **. I'm not really sure why my edit triggered the lint errors if that's the case, though. Primefac (talk) 21:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I'm not sure why your edit triggered the lints either, but I think the problem is that the <div class="rcat rcat-R_semi-protected"> is on the "::" line, while the closing </div> is on an empty line. This is easy to see on Special:ExpandTemplates, using 
{{redirect category shell|
|h=Test
}}
and setting the context title to that of a protected page. The opening div is at the end of the second line. I'm not sure what the correct place is to add the newline, whether it should be conditional on something, etc., but I hope this helps. --rchard2scout (talk) 12:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Oh! Interesting. I'll play around in rcat's sandbox and see if I can get a fix going. Primefac (talk) 13:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Uh... that was easy. Primefac (talk) 13:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, that worked! --rchard2scout (talk) 15:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you both! Yup, that cleared everything related to this issue in Mainspace, and cleared most of the templates. I'm not sure if the remaining 6 templates claiming this issue are being lazy and haven't picked up the change yet (despite purging) and just need a bit of time, or if they need an additional tweak, but it doesn't seem to be affecting functionality, so I'm not too concerned and tempted to wait and see.
It never fails to surprise me how some things can't stand other things being on the same line, and others can't stand being apart. Zinnober9 (talk) 16:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I won't to need the seasonal events

In Template:Country at games navbox there are many pages that use this template, especially the Olympics, so it is necessary to change from Template:Country at games navbox to Template:Country at games with seasonal. Also, pages that use Template:Country at games navbox but are locked specifically on the Munich massacre page should be changed now and any pages that Template:Country at games navbox but are for a single game should be kept as well. PanImage (talk) 08:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

If improvements can be made to an existing navbox, suggest changes to that navbox, don't just make an entirely new one that is little more than a copy. Thank you for pointing out the flaws in the current template; I am working on an upgrade. Primefac (talk) 10:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

RE: STEAM education

The legislation is neutral, unbiased content.

I only added quotes from notable people. It was not self-promotion, and it is unfortunate that that was misunderstood.

The legislation alone really helps the article on an education topic. Starlighsky (talk) 17:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

It was also directly copied from the source, which is not allowed. Primefac (talk) 18:20, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
I changed the wording for the legislation. I can drastically improve that part. The article is about education, and the legislation addresses the education issue. Education is an important issue in terms of articles. Starlighsky (talk) 18:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
You are welcome to re-add any content that was removed, provided you write it in your own words. Primefac (talk) 18:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. Starlighsky (talk) 18:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

fifteen years

On upcoming January 23, you will complete 15 years here —usernamekiran (talk) 18:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

It does appear that way, doesn't it! I would probably make the argument that my singular 2010 edit doesn't really count though ;-) Primefac (talk) 18:46, 14 January 2025 (UTC)