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Bro you have seen him youself he hasnt got no case now he says "Swatis are Pashtuns Culturally" earlier he was sure they are Bettanis… ] (]) 08:30, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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Yes i understand ... he comes with his own story books not even known even to mention only Olaf Caroe and Sher Muhammad Gandapur should have been enough they all have pointed in concealed or explicit manner as tajik tribe that got pashtunized. I have given him the genetic data also and what Afghan intellectuals at Kabul now think about them. They were indeed rulers in Swat but overthrown because they were from dehqan race of tajiks. Seems like this friend wants to keep his former royal status and become a Pashtun more than Pashtuns thrmselves. Something not possible. ] (]) 09:04, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I tried it have already left to other editors to decide if these pages are educational or otherwise. However, I won't do adding those pages to the category for unreliable sources also, if you say, no issues at all . Cheers ] (]) 15:07, 9 January 2020 (UTC)


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Hi Frank thanks you have been a great help. I will definitely not ignore your advice. Regards and thanks for everything. ] (]) 01:26, 10 January 2020 (UTC) Definitely I will Regards ] (]) 07:21, 28 August 2020 (UTC)


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why are you not Abdali whats wrong with it !!!! you changed your race !!!! ] (]) 09:50, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


No Durranis have many sub tribes like popalzais, achakzais, Tareens and Abdals. ] (]) 09:52, 10 August 2020 (UTC) {{Admin help-helped}} ] (]) 07:43, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
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Yes I am ] (]) 19:14, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
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Dear Jerod Lycett, these were edits based on good faith not vandalism Regards ] (]) 10:11, 15 January 2020 (UTC) * The matter is already under discussion on an admin's talkpage, you need to get Haider khan10 there and wait for the outcome. ] <sup>(])</sup> 12:20, 5 September 2020 (UTC)


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I am familiar with Misplaced Pages standard but seems like putting a dubious tag at some statement in the article is a problem. Leave Misplaced Pages alone atleast. ] (]) 11:19, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks for having noted the fact and he is always coming and destroying these pages. Regards ] (]) 02:11, 25 July 2020 (UTC) :Take it to the talk page. ] (]) 11:20, 15 December 2020 (UTC)


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derogatory remarks for Abdalis no never, i just mentioned them as persian speaking people and thats a fact even it was in Ahmad shah abdil's time when he was in command, the main language of the country was the great persian not the great pashtu, he had a great chance to promote Pashto at that time but he couldn't .. Mr azmarai Regards Haider khan10 (talk) 20:30, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


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Lodhis Ghoris Suris Khiljis Swatis are in bitani tribal tree and you can't defined them at your own will, you will have to delete them all from the pashtun genealogy tree all of them or stop using derogatory remarks against any of them. One of more thing that if you omit all these tribes bitani or ghorgasht, you will have nothing in great Pashtun history because all of them were ruling tribes of Pashtuns or may you will have just a recent past history of Ahmed Shah baba of 18th century....Azmarai sab Regards Haider khan10 (talk) 20:38, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


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you are wrong about gujjar brothers and others, gujjars have their own first mother language is called Gujri and for sheiks they are living almost all over in Pakistan and speak their areas dominating language like in sind they speak sindhi etc mr abdali sab .. Haider khan10 (talk) 20:44, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
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Swatis are Pashtuns but not afghans ... are you rohilla, sulemani, Khurasani or Pathan !!!!! you have half of dozen names mr ... Haider khan10 (talk) 20:47, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
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According to Khan Roshan Khan in his book Tazkara meintioned Batani as the second largest Pashtuns tribe and took some names of the sub tribes like Lodhis Suris Swatis and Khiljis of batani confeferation... Abdali sab ka ta ma namany ... qasam khrum che za ba ta hiiis kala namanam ! Regards: Haider khan10 (talk) 21:02, 9 August 2020 (UTC <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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My dear please don't go back on your own words. Lodhis, Suris, Khiljis are different than Swatis. Secondly, Swatis have never come under any Bettani pedigree. Thirdly, please quote a source that has been there since long. Fourth, I mentioned Sheikh Mohammadis not Sheikhs. Fifth Gujjars have adopted Pashto as their first language in many areas so does it make them a Pashtun??? Please bring source and don't prove you want to change yourself. Regards ] (]) 03:09, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


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its really dificult to meke you understand because you are non pashtun even cant speak pashto so what left for you is just a pathan....i don't need a non pashtun certificate to be a pashtun, i m a pashtun by huge land owner in Khyber Pashtun Khwa and can read and write my language Pashto....i have lot more references to show you of bitani tree but for now it's much engough for people like you who is non pashtun....Ghoris suris ghaljis lodhis swatis all are pashtuns and all of them are form bitani tribal tree.....if karlani was an adopted son then why they would be considered pashtun because no blood line, according to your folklores !!!! Pashtun is Pashtun by its language customs and tradition mr azmarai abdali sab. Regards Haider khan10 (talk) 09:18, 10 August 2020
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why would you cosider ghaljis as pashtuns whereas ther father was a turk prince and his wife was the dughter of Bitan baba, thats what you believe in ... i do believe that Ghaljis are the greatest of all Pashtun tribe even if they were of turko-tajik blood !!!! mr ? Regards Haider khan10 (talk) 09:24, 10 August 2020 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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So you have yourself come to the point I had made Turko tajik blood. It's difficult to hide and that's what's written in Imperial Gazetteers that many Swatis hide their origin. Regards ] (]) 09:31, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


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i don't need your ref whereas i had already shown you from reliable source.....pls don't hide now just tell me are ghaljis father was a turk and was karlani an adopted so and if yes then why they all are pashtuns !!!!! mr abadali azmarai sab Regards ] (]) 09:40, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
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Please do give me some source you don't but other do which Bettani are you ] (]) 09:42, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


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Let's understand may be you want to be something like Kakar Hindus who want to listed now as Kakars from Zhob. ] (]) 09:44, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
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And I told you I amnot Abdali but a popal Durrani. Regards ] (]) 09:45, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
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i don't need your ref whereas i had already shown you from reliable source.....pls don't hide now just tell me are ghaljis father was a turk and was karlani an adopted so and if yes then why they all are pashtuns !!!!! mr abadali azmarai sab Regards ] (]) 09:40, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


As to that article, I left it last year after getting it protected but I still believe the neutral lede which was somewhat agreed back then should be added to it which will be followed by sources to both Pashtun and Tajik claims. But for this I think we need to start a new discussion and get more broader views in line with Misplaced Pages policy. Going to do something in this regard in coming week. ] <sup>(])</sup> 11:29, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
dont try to pin point Swati Pashtuns mr azmarai, just be careful what you doing with my tribe just stop your derogatory remarks !!!! uss tal pukhto hum na razi, kash ka ta da jaba izda kary we nu ma ba ta pukhtun garanly !!! mr azmarai Regards ] (]) 09:47, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


Bro I have just saved it against attacks from others who have been writing you guys Indians, yusufzais and some Dards. But what is written about in Imperial Gazetteers of India is correct. All I'm saying is give me name of the book and don't destroy Misplaced Pages ] (]) 09:50, 10 August 2020 (UTC) I suggest to leave it the way it is and keep it locked. Else more and more will come get it in bad shape even more. Regards ] (]) 09:08, 14 December 2021 (UTC)


why are you not Abdali whats wrong with it !!!! you changed your race !!!! ] (]) 09:50, 10 August 2020 (UTC) I didn't want to use abusive Language but this user Azmarai is urging me again and again to use abusive words ] (]) 13:48, 10 August 2022 (UTC)


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Mara ta sanga pakhtun ye che pukhto dala na razi .. za charta pukhto izda ka bya zaan ta pakhtun waya mr so called azmarai Regards ] (]) 09:53, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


Please avoid vandalism by a frequent visitor to this page by locking. I have given the details and online links in the Further Readings section for easy access. I don't beling to this tribe nor am related in any sense but a few editors are childish activities here without even knowing they can even be confornted at Kripling Society and exposed .This user has no knowledge of history and editing other tribe pages with jealously . Kindly lock it Regards : Huzaifa Swati ] (]) 13:38, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Sorry didn't understand ] (]) 09:55, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


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don't bother yourself to understand you non pashtun Regards ] (]) 10:12, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


Dekh mery bety Software Engineer hun ma Aur Khandan b sara software Engineers se bra Hai .Maine aj dekha tune mera page lock krwaya tha Dekhta hun tery sath sbr kr tu saly ] (]) 13:40, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Pashtun is Pashtun by their language land culture and customs thats all .... no blood line nothing mr azmarai ...when qais baba visited Madina with fourty or more people to accept Islam then where rest of the tribes people had gone, were they not pashtuns ... according to your folklores qais baba had four sons, one of them was an adopted one !!! Pukhto izda ka nu bya ba khabary kaum. Regards ] (]) 10:10, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


Really if that all is a folklore why did you change the article a few days back claiming Swatis are progeny of Qais Abdur Rasheed???? ] (]) 10:12, 10 August 2020 (UTC) {{Afd notice|Jahangiri}} ] (]) 13:11, 26 August 2022 (UTC)


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I haven't been disrespectful to you till now. Just tell me which Bettani you are ??? ] (]) 10:13, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


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atleast jogis speak pashto nevertheless they are not pashtuns but promoting my language and you who claimed to ba decent pashtun don't know a single word of pashto ... just smile now Regards ] (]) 11:16, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


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Well bro you had no other choice but to learn this language that you speak now. It's what people who aren't proud of their race face. Regards ] (]) 11:19, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


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i think this person so called azmarai has some personal grudges with my tribe SWATI, thats why this man even don't know a single word of Pashto but desired to be pashtun want his own pashtun tribal confederation, nonetheless i had given some references that Swati are in bitani tribal tree but he is continuously editing wrongly !!!! want to thrust his own home made views .... Haider khan10 (talk) 21:32, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
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Cha lala Afghan krama - Cha lala Pathan krama - za sada pakhtun yama - za sada insan yama. try to understand azmarai sab ] (]) 22:48, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


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No I'm still willing to know which subtribe of Bettanis are you from??? Regards ] (]) 11:54, 11 August 2020 (UTC)


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this man is continously defaming a pashtun tribe SWATI, he is editing wikipedia with a fake name Azmarai, coward so called pathan without my great language pashto, cant speak pashto and still not interested promote it ... Haider khan10 (talk) 21:40, 10 August 2020 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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ow much time gone, when these lineal trees have been explored or written, just in 17th century by Niamatulla Hirvi, in his book "Tareekh e Khan Jahani - Maghzan e Afghani", who himself was far far away from the land of Pashtuns. Infact Pashtuns were every where in Pashtun Khwa from the thousand of years that's why Herodotus mentions them as Pactyans, Righved as Pakat and Persian Osta as Bagad. mr azmarai ] (]) 22:40, 10 August 2020 (UTC)


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Now another point, how could one adopted son can take place of a real son, and their offsprings will trace their ancestor to Qais Abdul Rashid Baba? According to folklores, fables, an infant was found and adopted might be of some another race but defenitely not Pashtun ! Great Karalanis are more Pashtunic as compare to other Pashtun tribes, what makes you so confident about to accept Karlanis in that lineal tree ? Kindly don't see these great Pashtun tribes on behalf of your own likings and dislikings. Here is a Pashto proverb " che ta sok na manay - ta ba hum sok na mani " ] (]) 22:46, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
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Really if that all is a folklore why did you change the article a few days back claiming Swatis are progeny of Qais Abdur Rasheed???? ] (]) 11:55, 11 August 2020 (UTC)


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It is imposible to accept or believe the whole nation has been delivered by just one man even if some writers mentions him as their symbolic progenitor, if that then it will counted as acceptence, goes in favour of the cultural definition of the Pashtuns ! Haider 17:33, 23 February 2006 (UTC) ..
i m not new to wikipedia mr azmarai abdali sab.
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::Sorry but I have very Nuetral point of view on this Dards are Indo Aryans while other than once reference noone has ever mentioned Dehgans as Dards. The modern genetic studies are there to back my assertion.
Blood is irrelevant to discuss when it comes to ethnicity and race is a flawed concept. Language, culture, geographical location, common interest, common goals, and loyalty to a cause define a nation and people. 2006 azmarai .. ] (]) 22:58, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
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So this is what I am saying ... have you ever served a common cause with Pashtuns???? Aren't you Cis Indus ??? Do you think i didn't fight this case??? I tried but couldn't find sources my friend. I again am telling you if you have authentic sources please let me know. But instead of putting them forth you are fighting. Regards ] (]) 03:18, 11 August 2020 (UTC)


Going through your objections over Swati article, I've a suggestion for you. The Swatis of 16th century were Dardic, but present Swatis probably identify themselves with Pashtuns. So I think you can create a separate article for present Swatis (who live in ''Cis-Hazara'', as you stated) as oppose to the older Dardic Swatis (who lived in Swat). That would solve the issue. Hope you'd agree. ] (]) 04:20, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Remember Pashtun conglomerates were all recorded in what you call "fables" and want to be part of it also. Decide if those are "fables" or yours written in 1960s afterwards. Regards ] (]) 17:07, 12 August 2020 (UTC)


:::::: Dards were never called Swatis as in their times the area was called Udhiyana I hope you would really read in between the lines and not get into edit wars with others like Gibri Sultan and Huzaifa as I see it.
== was karlani an adopted son ==
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wasn't karlani an adopted son of qais baba if yes then why they would be consideres as pashtuns but today we can see tht they more pashtuns than any other.....in same another case bitan babas son in law was a turk prince if yes then why wud they be added as pashtuns, while we observe ghaljis the greatest of all pashtun tribes mr azmarai....tell me your real name !!!! ] (]) 10:31, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
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keep reading books tareekh e khan jahani wa maghzab e afghani written by a non pashtun man sitting thuosand of miles away from land of pashtuns !!! you real name azmarai !!! ] (]) 10:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC) :I have left my response and am collecting more to it for Notice board will take it up with other editors also as you suggested. Onus lies upon you now to clarify. ] (]) 08:16, 1 December 2023 (UTC)


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Yes Swatis are respectabl Pashtun people and for that they don't need your certificate, if you are pashtun try to say something in pashto or leave like a pathan rohilla sulemani khurasani ... and one more thing again that you are just an afghan but not pashtun .. you azmarai Haider khan10 (talk) 11:32, 11 August 2020 (UTC) a man with fake race and identity without name...
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Azmarai sab are you ok, try to get some rest my sweet grandson and somewhere to take great pashto classed ... pashtun wihtout pashto is not a pashtun but pathan man .... Haider khan10 (talk) 11:37, 11 August 2020 (UTC)


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are you ashamed of your race if not than i m a proud swati pashtun but it seeems to be like you are in inferiority coplex due to lack of pashto inside you ... azmarai fake Haider khan10 (talk) 11:37, 11 August 2020 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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you pathan why are you feel so shameful to be called pathan i saw you getting brown when i say you dont know pashto but you can try atleast you poor azmarai now smile ..... ] (]) 11:48, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

This Pashto came after pashtunization by Yusufzais and yes you should be proud of it. Regards ] (]) 11:52, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Really if that all is a folklore why did you change the article a few days back claiming Swatis are progeny of Qais Abdur Rasheed???? ] (]) 11:55, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

what a childish way to to.define pashtun, pashtuns are Pashtuns due to their land language culture customs baba azmari.. . . ] (]) 15:29, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Really, and what makes you think people surrounding Pashtuns like Turkmens, Hazara, Tajiks and Pashahais are different in customs than neighbouring Pashtuns??? Is that Pashtun culture or a common culture of all that people in far away from Pashtuns think is only Pashtun culture???? Regards ] (]) 16:56, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

As far as your statement about adoption of Karlanr he was adopted by Burkis and not Qais Abdur Rasheed. Fakeer Sahib Regards ] (]) 16:58, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Your assertion on culture makes me laugh only anyone living in far away land from Pashtuns like you only would think it's only Pashtun culture. One questions normally Pashtuns still practice "walwar" do you also follow that if you are culturally same as them. Regards ] (]) 17:02, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

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i m editing with wikipedia for more than 14 years and had never been blocked, but now this user with a fake name Azmarai has some personal grudges with my tribe, and had used derogatory remarks for Swati Pashtuns, im active now and keep watching him all the time to barred him fake editing ... swatis are Pashto speaking Pashtuns! Thanks.. . . . . ] (]) 16:41, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Why would I have a grudge??? All I'm saying which Bettani subtribe are Swatis from since long Regards ] (]) 16:44, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

This disruptive editing you been doing since long that's why I confronted you today...... you think a person has to be a Pashtun to be a human and if he isn't born so he will lie about his race. Regards Haider bro ] (]) 16:57, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Don't destroy Misplaced Pages friend, it's an academic forum and not for falsification and that's what you have been doing since the last fourteen years. Regards ] (]) 17:56, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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Well the fellow changes and instead of answering simple questions starts cursing Afghans and Pashtuns. He says Swatis are Bettanis... okay which subsection of Bettanis are they from ??? Regards ] (]) 20:13, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Khan Roshan Khan that he keeps saying has even made Katoors of chitral and Kattani kohistanis as Pashtuns. Ask the worthy fellow does it make them Pashtuns also???

Secondly, half of this tribe speaks Hindko and not Pashto will he categorize them as none Pashtun Swatis????

Roshan Khan was an author or a literary figure himself who wrote that " this tribe may also be Pashtun " but no one considers it so as all land records has been specific about them as Pashtunized tribe these included straight from Emperor Babur to latter British Raj which is the case still officially for them in Pakistan. Regards ] (]) 12:58, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Roshan Khan wasn't a literary figure or author himself. Sorry for the typo. Regards ] (]) 12:59, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

My sources aren't books that people keep writing to their benefits as If they are fighting a case from the scratch to categorize this tribe a Pashtuns. These are as following and verifiable online:-

1. Hazara Gazetteer 1883 and 1907 2. Imperial Gazetteer of India (1 and 2 both official documents) 3. Tribes of Hindukush (John Biddulph 1880) 4. Notes on Afghanistan (Maj. Raverty) 5. History of Afghans by Dorn B. 6. The Pathans by Olaf Caroe. 1950...1952 7. Kindgom of Cauble Elphistone. 8. Hayat e Afghan by Hayat Khan. 9. Khursheed e Jahan by Sher Muhammad Gandapur. 10. An inquiry into Ethnography of Afghanistan.

These are all printed by "publishers" and not by "printers" like the other Haider Khan 10 is presenting to build up his case of the tribe being Pashtun or Afghan.

Late in 1960s some of these communities did try to generate content to prove they are Afghans or Pashtuns all printed by "printers" and poorly sourced. Same is the case with this tribe.

The editors Haider Khan 10 couldn't even answer my simple question if this tribe is:-

1. Sarbarni 2. Karlanri 3. Ghorghusts 4. Bettanis ( he did try to make an edit to call Swatis as Bettani tribe without any idea which Bettanis subsection they are from????

He doesn't believe in fables as he always keep saying but trying to descend from these fables himself. (Strange isn't it)???.

Swatis are Pashtunized Tajiks of an old race once known "Dehqans" that's they name they have been joining the British Army and that Military paper is still valid for official purposes to date. Regards ] (]) 02:38, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

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As you and I know both know it's very difficult to find "Open Sources" to fullfill our ancestral history but we still manage to get sources and have the hard copies with ourselves. He has now filed a request to Administrators that this has been to push our POV of Pashtun when were are clearly just inserting lost pieces of history. He is utterly rude and disrespectful and has vandalized many other articles by pushing his POV and is complaining to Administrators that what we do is unverifiable and unsourced when we clearly provide the correct sources.
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You are tagging me in various pages accusing me of sock-puppetry and are threatening to block my account and then some.
Firstly, I have no relations with this user 'PashtunTribal548'.
Secondly, I can see you have vandalized more articles related to Pashtuns by constantly pushing your POV and claiming that they are not sourced or verifiable, which is entirely the contrary as your assertions are subsequently disproved.
The user 'PashtunTribal548' is not the first. You have always come to this predicament to threaten to block users before you even want to reach a consensus with them on talk pages and instead try to pursue your own agenda. I can vouch for this based on my own experience with you. But you insist.

I will talk to a couple senior representatives on Misplaced Pages and will apprise them of the situation regarding your vandalism and disruptive editing. I will file a full report on you soon. Thank you. ] (]) 15:57, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

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I see nothing wrong written at Tanolies page Regards ] (]) 16:50, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Tanolies have been tested genetically as R1b1 which attest their older version to the claim of being Turkic. Regards ] (]) 16:52, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

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Bro you have seen him youself he hasnt got no case now he says "Swatis are Pashtuns Culturally" earlier he was sure they are Bettanis… Azmarai76 (talk) 08:30, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes will see how long he will be bent on his stance but please follow the talk page guidelines while you discuss it there. WP:TALK USaamo 08:48, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes i understand ... he comes with his own story books not even known even to mention only Olaf Caroe and Sher Muhammad Gandapur should have been enough they all have pointed in concealed or explicit manner as tajik tribe that got pashtunized. I have given him the genetic data also and what Afghan intellectuals at Kabul now think about them. They were indeed rulers in Swat but overthrown because they were from dehqan race of tajiks. Seems like this friend wants to keep his former royal status and become a Pashtun more than Pashtuns thrmselves. Something not possible. Azmarai76 (talk) 09:04, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

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@Azmarai76: While you're right about warning User:Huzaifa Swati for abusive language, I now see ultra-nationalistic behaviour in your editing too especially with regards to Swatis. You know I agreed with your editing when it was based on sources to add their origin and even then there were behavioural issues which I gave a pass. I request you don't show battleground mentality while you edit here or I couldn't differentiate between you and these editors. Please watch out in this regard. Thanks!

As to that article, I left it last year after getting it protected but I still believe the neutral lede which was somewhat agreed back then should be added to it which will be followed by sources to both Pashtun and Tajik claims. But for this I think we need to start a new discussion and get more broader views in line with Misplaced Pages policy. Going to do something in this regard in coming week. USaamo 11:29, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

I suggest to leave it the way it is and keep it locked. Else more and more will come get it in bad shape even more. Regards Azmarai76 (talk) 09:08, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

I didn't want to use abusive Language but this user Azmarai is urging me again and again to use abusive words Huzaifa Swati (talk) 13:48, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

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Please only remove citations if they are not from WP:reliable sources. If multiple reliable sources present conflicting conclusions or complementary information, then both points of view should be presented on Misplaced Pages. – Fayenatic London 11:47, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Sorry but I have very Nuetral point of view on this Dards are Indo Aryans while other than once reference noone has ever mentioned Dehgans as Dards. The modern genetic studies are there to back my assertion.

Azmarai76 (talk) 12:11, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

A suggestion

Going through your objections over Swati article, I've a suggestion for you. The Swatis of 16th century were Dardic, but present Swatis probably identify themselves with Pashtuns. So I think you can create a separate article for present Swatis (who live in Cis-Hazara, as you stated) as oppose to the older Dardic Swatis (who lived in Swat). That would solve the issue. Hope you'd agree. Sutyarashi (talk) 04:20, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Dards were never called Swatis as in their times the area was called Udhiyana I hope you would really read in between the lines and not get into edit wars with others like Gibri Sultan and Huzaifa as I see it.
Azmarai76 (talk) 04:25, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
I would suggest we carry on this discussion where we are already discussing.
Azmarai76 (talk) 04:27, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

November 2023

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Sutyarashi (talk) 17:33, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

I have left my response and am collecting more to it for Notice board will take it up with other editors also as you suggested. Onus lies upon you now to clarify. Azmarai76 (talk) 08:16, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

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