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Please do not post newsletters to this page; news from WikiProjects is always appreciated, but templated messages are much more likely to be ignored. ] (]) 05:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Depth == | |||
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== Calendar of upcoming events == | |||
I intend this to be a sort of calendar of upcoming events, on and off Misplaced Pages (particularly non-obvious events, that might be easily missed) -- things that readers might be interested in. Anyone can add events here. | |||
* Nothing interesting is happening. | |||
== Requests for WikiProject features == | |||
If you'd like your WikiProject featured in an upcoming WikiProject report, feel free to list it here. Note that these requests are entirely advisory, and may or may not be used in future reports. Please do not "support" or "oppose" individual requests, and keep requests '''short and concise'''. ] (]) 05:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
* ], with over 90 members, the Dinosaur WikiProject is really dedicated to dinosaur coverage. See ] for more information. ] 21:51, 18 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
* ] is a lively and productive project that currently supports over 5000 articles, and has a dedicated core group of editors who work toward getting articles to GA and FA. Currently we are ] to the ]'s announcement that they are starting a collaborative encyclopedia project that will somehow be better than Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 02:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
* ], the only project which to my knowledge has gotten a barnstar from an outsider as a project. And, of course, considering it just declared indpendence, ] might be the most timely. ] (]) 19:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
* ] nearly died and came back to life. Originally begun in early 2007, by the start of December it had dwindled to just two active members. For a view of how much it's revived, here's its ] (featured pictures, good articles, DYKs, and a featured portal drive). ] 09:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
*I think ] might be a nice success-story to include in some edition of the Signpost. Various gnomes have hacked away at this backlog ever since bots like ] started populating it a year and a half ago. Of course, this is a never-ending task but it's an important one and the backlog typically hovers around 2000 articles (compared to 10 times that a year ago). ] (]) 13:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
*]. Theres tons of things that happened in WP:LINY that would be great for the signpost. ] 13:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== WikiPediaVision: Watch Realtime Misplaced Pages Edits == | |||
*{{cite news | |||
| last =Forrest | |||
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| title =WikiPediaVision: Watch Realtime Misplaced Pages Edits | |||
| work =O'Reilly Radar | |||
| date =April 10, 2008 | |||
| url =http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/10/wikipediavision-watch-realtime.html | |||
| accessdate =2008-04-10 }} | |||
:This looks neat. ] (]) 21:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
http://www.lkozma.net/wpv/index.html | |||
That's the actual site, it's really interesting. ] (]) 21:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
: It's so cool. But how come 9 out of 10 anonymous edits are from U.S.? ]] 21:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::: Surely it would depend upon the time of day. The US would of course dominate during the hours when the Western hemisphere is most active. Also, the tool only tracks anonymous edits, and doesn't include IPs that can't be tied down to a single country, which may introduce unintentional biases. Still, I find this incredibly cool, and actually kind of inspiring.--] (]) 18:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
==wikipedia and Suicide== | |||
The BMJ put wikipedia as the forth most common result of suicide releated terms and catigoriesed wikipedia as "Information site: factual" | |||
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/336/7648/800 | |||
] 15:15, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
Maybe this could make a little blurb in the next issue: ]'s , some of which are used on Meta (], for example), has added a new way to gauge the relative quality of a Misplaced Pages language edition: ''depth''. It's calculated as: | |||
:Note that it's not claiming any of the suicide-related articles on Misplaced Pages are factually correct, only that Misplaced Pages falls within a class of sites deemed to present fact-based information about the topic (instead of, say, promoting suicide, or offering news reports about people who committed suicide). ]] 16:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:<math>\frac{edits}{articles}\times\frac{pages-articles}{articles}</math> | |||
== Is Misplaced Pages a reliable source for sources? Seems so! == | |||
For Wikipedias with less than 1,000 articles, a depth of more than 200 isn't counted. If you'd like something more mathematical-looking (and thus more impressive): | |||
From seems we are getting better at citing our sources. ]] 01:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:<math>\tfrac{e}{a^2}(p-a) : a \ge 1000 \lor \tfrac{e}{a^2}(p-a) \le 200</math> | |||
''The Internet-based encyclopædia Misplaced Pages has grown to become one of the most visited Web sites on the Internet, but critics have questioned the quality of entries. An empirical study of Misplaced Pages found errors in a 2005 sample of science entries. Biased coverage and lack of sources are among the “Misplaced Pages risks.” This paper describes a simple assessment of these aspects by examining the outbound links from Misplaced Pages articles to articles in scientific journals with a comparison against journal statistics from Journal Citation Reports such as impact factors. The results show an increasing use of structured citation markup and good agreement with citation patterns seen in the scientific literature though with a slight tendency to cite articles in high-impact journals such as Nature and Science. These results increase confidence in Misplaced Pages as a reliable information resource for science in general. Many citations also go to Australian botany journals, seemingly because of the ] that has made well-referenced articles for this genus of plants with the beautiful flowers. A number of the articles for these plants has become so-called “featured” on Misplaced Pages: ], (this Banksia is listed as endangered), ] and ].'' | |||
But really, it's just a small way of deemphasizing the article count as an indicator of a Misplaced Pages edition's progress. | |||
== Newspaper picks up on local vandalism == | |||
– ] <small>(], ])</small> 08:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
A that some IPs have been randomly vandalizing the article on their town (see ). Paper apparently knows nothing about Misplaced Pages, saying "Efforts to reach Misplaced Pages officials for comment Tuesday were unsuccessful." ] (]) 16:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Wikimania 2007bulletin: 2006-12-4 == | |||
::Just a personal note: did someone really take the time to write a whole article on this? Must be a slow news week. And note that a municipal department had to be "alerted" about it! --] (]) 15:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::True, though I think it also stems from a complete ignorance of what actually goes on here, so when they see something funny happening to an article relevant to them, it seems a lot more important than it really is. ] (]) 15:57, 17 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
And on a series of vandalism to ]. ] (]) 13:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
BBC TV too, . ] (]) 22:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
Just a note that the latest has been released, and may include some points worth covering. ]<font color="green">]</font>] (<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small>) 01:14, 5 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
] has also picked it up, . ] (]) 13:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Google Earth layer == | |||
--] (]) 15:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
Has this been covered yet? I've been talking with Greg Maxwell via email, and he's explained a lot of FAQ that hasn't been discussed so far elsewhere. I'd be willing to forward the email to any of the 'post's writers. -- ] 20:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
: I believe this was covered ] under '''Other news'''. let me know if you are referring to something else. --<font color="#06C">]</font> 22:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:: Yeah, that's it. I though I remembered something being in. If I were to do a small, say 300 word article on how it works, would that be welcomed? What coordinate templates work and which don't, why some markers are out of place (our fault, it seems!), how it gets updated and at what rate, that sort of thing? -- ] 22:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
::: I suggest proposing it to the editor (]) first ] --<font color="#06C">]</font> 22:36, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::: Thanks, forgot that list existed. -- ] 22:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::: Yeah; go ahead. ] (]) 04:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
] (]) 21:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
To update, I'm attempting to have this done for the end of the week, for the next issue. -- ] 20:01, 19 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Misplaced Pages, climate change, National Post and ] == | |||
== Sidebar == | |||
Well, well. National Post has some editorial about Misplaced Pages on climate change, and the writer does not seem to be pleased with ]. ] (]) 01:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
It looks like the sidebar has finally changed (at least in monobook). May be worth covering. – ]] 09:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:It has? Is there a before and after picture? It does look different, but I can't remember what it looked like before... Ah! Found the link: ]. It looks like they changed the top two boxes (with minor differences), but left the bottom box (the toolbox) unchanged. I seem to recall that some people said something about technical difficulties in doing changes to the toolbox. Anyway, I'm copying this thread over to the talk page of the redesign page that I linked to above. ] 10:49, 18 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
::], it looks like. – ]] 07:43, 20 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Britannica WebShare== | |||
== Misplaced Pages 6th most searched site on google == | |||
"", by Michael Arrington, discusses Britannica's new widget trial program, , in which web publishers of various sorts are given free access to the full version of Britannica online, and the ability to link to individual articles for their readers to access. Most news coverage is describing this as an attempt to cope with what Misplaced Pages has done to their business model. | |||
I suggest that the ''Signpost'' attempt to sign up as a web publisher, so that we could start a new feature of weekly in-depth comparison's of individual articles. It's a long shot whether they would accept us simply because we're part of their competition, but the ''Signpost'' would seem to fall within their definition of who is eligible for the program.--] (]) 16:55, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
'wikipedia' was number 6 and 'wiki' was number 10: --] 20:49, 18 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I am a bit confused why the possibility to link to a full article is being touted as news - this has already been possible for a long time, actually without the need to sign up as a web publisher. I am not sure when I saw that invitation to web masters on the EB site first, but I recall that this kind of free access had already been enabled when I made in July 2007. already use this. | |||
== UK Indymedia accuses Misplaced Pages of lying == | |||
:By the way, last time I checked it didn't work for links on a preview page; you had to actually save the page. This probably means that they do not trust the ] alone, but check the page given there to verify that it actually links to the Britannica URL. (Or that someone at Britannica has taken some time to study MediaWiki URLs.) | |||
:Regards, ] (]) 17:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks for the clarification. Maybe the only difference is that they are adding free 1-year subscriptions for "web publishers" to encourage more people to link to their (excessively ad-filled) articles. Some articles were describing this as part of a soft launch. In any case, now might be a good time to start a regular ''Signpost'' feature comparing specific articles.--] (]) 19:08, 20 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
A recent Village Pump (miscellaneous) addition refers to this external item: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/12/358569.html. For your consideration. --User:Ceyockey (<small>'']''</small>) 14:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
== User interface changes == | |||
== Ottawa Sun quotes us as if we were a news bureau == | |||
Two changes were recently made: | |||
. -- ] 14:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
: Oh, Wikinews ain't gonna be happy about that. <tt>;)</tt> ]]<sup>(])</sup> 21:23, 21 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
*{{tl|talkheader}} was changed on 8 April; it now automatically includes links to archive subpages, assuming the archive subpages are numbered in the standard manner (Archive 1, Archive 2, etc.). (].) That means it is no longer necessary to add the {{tl|archive box}} template to a page in order to provide links to archive subpages (again, if named in the standard manner). | |||
== Misplaced Pages in China still ranks high == | |||
*The tab at the top of discussion pages that was labeled "+" is now labeled "new section", per ]. Editors who prefer the "+" label will find, at the "Gadgets" tab of "my preferences", the option (check box) that reads ''Change the "new section" tab text to instead display the much narrower "+"'', to put the tab back the way it was. -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 21:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
According to Andrew Lih's blogs, the Chinese government department involved in running the "Great Firewall" is involved in releasing a list of the most popular sites in China. ... -- ] 15:04, 20 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
Another new change: | |||
== An online debate: What's the meaning of Zanta?: He may be local, but fans say he belongs in Misplaced Pages == | |||
Search now uses a suggestion drop-down— see . This can be disabled by checking: | |||
:] → Search → Disable AJAX suggestions. | |||
--<i><b>— ]<font color = "darkblue"> <sup>]</sup></font></b> - </i> 18:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
If folks have not looked under My Preferences in a while, all sorts of options have been added in the last month or so, especially under Gadgets. See ] for definitions of all the installed gadgets. --<i><b>— ]<font color = "darkblue"> <sup>]</sup></font></b> - </i> 23:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20061223.ZANTA23/TPStory/TPEntertainment/Ontario/ | |||
==Pro-Israel POV group== | |||
-- ] 14:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
With all the rumors swirling around about pro-Israel cabalism taking place, possibly including some admins, this thread may be of some interest to Misplaced Pages participants . One long-time editor has already been indef blocked over it. ] (]) 23:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:The episode has attracted press attention: . I'll try to add something to the ] article about it. ] (]) 05:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Although El Reg normally isn't a source ''Signpost'' would cite, this is currently on the front page of Slashdot. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 00:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::I suspect that in discussions in the future about advocacy groups trying to control a subject or view in Misplaced Pages that this case will be one the examples most frequently referenced. ] (]) 00:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::There have certainly been other instances of people attempting to manipulate content for ideological or profit motives. What I hope results from this is a realignment of the community's priorities. ] ought to be getting as many eyes and as much traffic as ]. When the Wikiscanner came out last summer, three weeks of worldwide headlines proved that we weren't keeping our own house in order. That ought to have been a big eye opener; it wasn't. If it were reasonably certain that a campaign like this one would be caught - and swiftly - by Wikipedians, then this wouldn't be so much of a problem. Coordinated ideological manipulation of any sort is a direct assault on this site's credibility; our dedicated featured article writers would work in vain if the public weren't reasonably confident that most of Misplaced Pages is honest and most of the site is worth reading. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 18:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
This didn't get covered in the latest edition of ''The Misplaced Pages Signpost'', but FWIW here was the info covered in '']'' from April 29 (new sources have covered it since then) - ]. ] (]) 17:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Ah, I see {{user|Ragesoss}} mentioned this below. ] (]) 17:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Mention in ]'s latest novel == | |||
== Centiare trying a semantic wiki == | |||
I don't know if this is the sort of thing the Signpost runs, but just in case ... Misplaced Pages plays a minor but noticeable role in Fowler's latest novel, ''Wit's End''. The novel includes (on pages 144 to 146) the text (somewhat modified) of a real article from Misplaced Pages, ], illustrating what the protagonist finds as she researches Holy City on Misplaced Pages. Another major character, a fictional mystery writer named A.B. Early, is involved in a minor edit war over her own article. Fowler is most notable as the author of '']''. ] ] 02:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
I think it would be of interest to readers to read this that compares a new semantic wiki () to the Yellow Pages, Misplaced Pages, Hoover's, and MySpace! --] 06:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Mentioned in court by David Irving == | |||
: Doesn't seem that different from , , and . And I don't see anything ] about it. --] 20:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
], a "much-criticised historian", was recently evicted from a B&B due to his behavior. In an unsucessful breach-of-contract suit against the landlady Irving alleged that she "cooled towards him after her solicitor sent her a copy of his Misplaced Pages entry detailing his views and controversies." She denied it. The case was the written up in '']'' of London. ]] ] 10:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Centiare appears to be different in that the first creator of a Directory space article actually "controls" or "owns" that article (i.e., other editors are locked out of it). So, Wal-Mart's page about Wal-Mart would say what Wal-Mart wants it to say, regardless of what the community thinks it should say. Community would be welcome to edit the Wal-Mart Talk page, I presume. As far as Centiare (not?) being ], scroll to the bottom of and play around with that sortable list of entities that have tagged their primary NAICS code. Each column is sortable. I don't think you can do anything close to that on Misplaced Pages, AboutUs, Qweki (a link farm, not a content hub), or Richdex (which isn't even working properly). I don't know... Centiare looks pretty damn different to me. --] 02:21, 2 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
== wikipedia in mountain bike uk == | |||
::: Since most companies already have a website that can be found with a search engine, Centiare doesn't seem that revolutionary. The sortable tables is just a bit of JavaScript. It can be done on Misplaced Pages. See ]. --] 13:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
wikipedia was in mountain bike uk fearuring some mountain biking terms ] (]) 13:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::Pmsyyz, I'm sorry to take issue with what you're saying, but I don't think you have a full understanding of how Search Engine Optimization works. Just because an organization's website "can" be found with a text-based search engine, doesn't mean much. That's because 95% of search engine users fail to click anywhere lower than the 3rd or 4th search result on 95% of their searches. Centiare has scripted a very informative about how their directory could help any organization that currently fails to come up toward the top of both general and specific Google searches. They've already proven it, and they're running more tests to prove it further. And that's why it is revolutionary. --] 15:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
== article 2,345,678 == | |||
We announced article number 2,222,222. Do we announce 2,345,678? (I don't know which article that was). ] (]) 19:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Wikipe-tan in the Tabliods... == | |||
:What's the point of looking for articles like that? I can see the importance of the 1 mill, 2 mill, and 2.5 millionth article, but what's the point? ''''']]''''' <small>]</small> 20:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Don't quite know if it's newsworthy, but... ]: | |||
"Two Wikipe-tan ]ers have been spotted in a cosplay activity in the ]. One of them, , was interviewed by Hong Kong magazine ] weeks later. In that article, more images of Wikipe-tan were used to illustrate how Heung became an "international icon". As an aside, the article erroneously told how she was invited by Kasuga and ] "administrator" ] to become the real-life Wikipe-tan. ] went further on that error, saying Heung became a representative for Misplaced Pages. " --] 09:22, 31 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
== GA debate == | |||
: That's hilarious and amazing. -- ] 14:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
I woul certainly hope that the next Signpost will include something about the rather fierce debate at ] about putting the GA symbol on GA articles, similar to FAs. I have only see pros to this no cons. I would like to know if there are any cons to this. ] (]) 03:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Unified login == | |||
:Actually, compared to previous discussions on the matter it's pretty tame. ]] 03:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:The current count as of 19:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC) is 47 in support and 25 opposed. There is also some discussion of which symbol to use. ]] | |||
:: Further, I've offered a Dispatch slot to Geometry guy if he wants it, but I don't think this is yet worthy of the Signpost. ] (]) 19:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Misplaced Pages in the News - ] article == | |||
It would be interesting if you could post an update about the status of . I can't find any current information online, so you would probably have to ask Brion Vibber directly. ] | ] 10:25, 3 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
Recent editing to the] article (refer to the ] nickname) has been mentioned in the ''Marine Corps Times'' in discussing the current perception of the term amongst Marines: | |||
: The short answer is, don't ask brion about it, or he'll smack you :) As far as I know, it's been tested and seemed to work with some degree of success. I think that after the fundraiser's done, we'll start hearing more about it. Then again, I would have thought the same thing about stable revisioning, too :) I'll check with brion later this week. ] (]) 13:30, 3 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
*{{cite news|accessdate=2008-04-27 | |||
|url=http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2008/04/marine_devildog_042708w/ | |||
|title=‘Devil Dog’ term taking a beating | |||
|author=Tilghman, Andrew | |||
|date=April 27, 2008 | |||
|work=Marine Corps Times}} | |||
— ] (]) 18:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Item for ''In the News'' == | |||
== "Misplaced Pages links used to build smart reading lists" == | |||
; Eddie Izzard discusses his use of Misplaced Pages, amongst other topics. also mentions that Izzard reads from (and riffs on) Misplaced Pages as part of his current stand-up tour.--] (]) 07:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
From : "Software that generates a list of reading material tailored to a person's individual interests has been developed by a PhD student in the US." ] 19:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
: I don't think it's confidential... some of the Communications Committee have contacted this student, asking whether it will be made publicly available, and whether we can help him in any way. -- ] 14:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Technology author and blogger endorses Misplaced Pages == | |||
== From the "It's a small world file": == | |||
See , ], 30 April 2008, by Paul Gilster. ] (]) 13:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC) <small>Mentioned by IP editor.</small> | |||
], from ], was being used in the ] article, where it was seen by Professor Russell D. Fernald of ], who then used the image in the article in the academic journal ]. The graphic that it became part of can be seen or . '']]'' 11:41, 4 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
: Ironically, to view the larger image you need to log in to the website, which requires some sort of (paid) subscription. Compare and contrast with the image on Misplaced Pages. ] 17:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== NYB == | ||
Clearly we are aware of the story by now. Please do not discuss the item any further here, per his wishes. ] (]) 16:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
Probably not even close to being of sufficient quality for inclusion, but thought that maybe ] (or some better phrased form of it) could possibly be included in the upcoming issue. Please inform me of whatever revisions are required for it to be included, if you deem it worthy of inclusion at all. Thank you. ] 20:50, 6 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Edits of switching superdelegate's bio on Slate== | |||
== Misplaced Pages Used for Artificial Intelligence == | |||
The ''Trail Head'' campaign blog on Slate covered the , the vandalism and responses that occurred in ] after Andrew announced switching his support as a superdelegate from Clinton to Obama.--] (]) 16:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
, . cheers. ] <sup>]</sup> 08:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
==EFF tries to get Misplaced Pages lawsuit dismissed== | |||
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As covered in , and elsewhere, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton law firm have filed a motion to dismiss a case brought against the Wikimedia Foundation in January. Literary agent Barbara Bauer sued over alleged defamation that occurred in the Misplaced Pages article about her (now deleted because of NPOV, BLP and reliable sourcing concerns, after a heated debate during the second deletion discussion). The EFF argues that ] protects the WMF from liability, as an "interactive computer services" provider rather than a traditional publisher that directly controls published content. This is a test of one of the central legal issues that both directly and indirectly contributes to Misplaced Pages's handling of biographies of living people.--] (]) 16:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
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== A day in the life of Misplaced Pages == | |||
Most editors have no idea of the complexity of Misplaced Pages or the extent of activity in the project on any given day. If there was some interest, I'd be happy to help with writing an article about a "day in the life" of this project. Such an article might begin by noting that at 00:01 there is a changing of the article on the Main Page (by a bot, I think). | |||
:Note that this is almost certainly the first time that the legal theory that DMCA section 230 covers the WMF has been tested in court. ] (]) 17:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
The article could include things like this (all figures are names are for illustration only): | |||
:Mike Godwin has requested any communications about this go to him, the EFF, or James Chadwick at Sheppard Mullin. ] (]) 17:46, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::The EFF motion frequently makes reference to a declaration by Mike Godwin. Is this available to read? ]] 02:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::According to Mike, the declaration you're referring to - which is not yet online - was a short declaration that the Barbara Bauer article is no longer available. ] (]) 16:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
I see that a new Misplaced Pages article has been started, focusing on the case itself -- ''']'''. ] (]) 17:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
*''06:10'' - the 1000th new article of the day, ], is added by ]. By the end of the day, a total of 4,221 new articles will have been added to Misplaced Pages, 3995 by registered users and 226 by anononymous IPs, the latter through the moderated article creation process. | |||
:Thanks, Cirt. I have a draft up at ]. One thing I'm confused about is when this lawsuit started. Several sources mention January (2008), but mention of the lawsuit (with the same docket number as listed on the motion to dismiss) first appeared in the Barbara Bauer article well before that, and the court website lists it as having been filed in early March 2007.--] (]) 17:53, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
*''08:18'' - ] is nominated for an adminship by ]. By the end of the day, 43 people have expressed their opinions on the nomination. The tally is 27/12/4; if the trend continues, it will probably result in an unsuccessful candidacy. There are five other RfAs in progress, with four likely to result in the appointment of new administrators by the end of the seven-day period that RfAs remain open. | |||
::I see that {{user|Ral315}} deleted both ] and ] citing a ] request. Perhaps given this new development, it would be best for any piece covering this to rely heavily, if not exclusively, on material from secondary sources, and explicitly attribute information to those sources with "According to...", etc. ] (]) 17:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::Mike Godwin has asked that we not publish an article on this until after the case is decided.--] (]) 21:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
===Sources=== | |||
*''10:22'' - ] receives it's 200th notification of vandal activity. By the end of the day, that noticeboard will have received and processed 590 notifications, blocked 357 accounts (XX%) completely as vandal-only, and issued temporary blocks on 195 other accounts (XX%) that range from one hour to one month. | |||
Here are some sources that could be used. ] (]) 17:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=81881|title=Misplaced Pages Asks Court For Immunity From Liability For User Posts|work=MediaPost Publications|publisher=MediaPost Communications|accessdate=2008-05-05|date=2008-05-05|last=Davis|first=Wendy}} | |||
By "help with writing", I mean identifying sources of information (they're scattered, not surprisingly) and coming up with a list of things happening around Misplaced Pages that might be included in the article. (I've come across a lot of things while compiling an editor's index in the past two months that I think other editors would find interesting.) ] | ] 18:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/05/02|title=EFF and Sheppard Mullin Defend Misplaced Pages in Defamation Case: Federal Law Protects Popular User-Created Encyclopedia From Liability|work=]|publisher=www.eff.org|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02}} | |||
:Actually, the main page is updated by ParserFunctions; it changes over automatically at the start of a day. One good place to gather such statistics will be the ]. --] 15:12, 9 January 2007 (]]]) | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080502-dumb-idea-suing-wikipedia-for-calling-you-dumb.html|title=Dumb idea: suing Misplaced Pages for calling you "dumb"|work=Ars Technica - The Art of Technology: From the News Desk|publisher=Ars Technica, LLC|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02|last=Anderson|first=Nate}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.informationweek.com/news/management/legal/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207500346|title=Misplaced Pages Battles Literary Agent Over Negative Comments: While many sites add user-generated content to enhance user experience, Misplaced Pages relies almost entirely on posts from contributors|work=]|publisher=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02|last=Jones|first=K.C.}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15806|title=Misplaced Pages v literary agent Barbara Bauer|work=p2pnet news|publisher=www.p2pnet.net|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/bauer-v-wikimedia|title=Bauer v. Wikimedia|work=Citizen Media Law Project|publisher=www.citmedialaw.org, Project hosted by ]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02|last=Bayard|first=Sam}} | |||
==] May Newsletter== | |||
== wikipedia's alexa rankings hit 9th == | |||
The May Newsletter for ] has now been published. ] (]) 22:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
{{Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Good articles/Newsletter/May 2008}} | |||
according to , wikipedia hit 9th website on the internet on January 3rd (and again on January 7th) of 2007. im pretty sure that this is the highest wikipedia has gotten ever on the rankings, 10th being its previous best. ] <sup>]</sup> 03:53, 9 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
==New magic word: PAGESIZE== | |||
==iPhone release features Misplaced Pages screenshot== | |||
A new magic word was recently implemented, but not covered in Misplaced Pages Signpost. <code><nowiki>{{PAGESIZE:page name}}</nowiki></code> returns the size of the given page name (], r33551). This contributes to a page's expensive parser function count. For example: | |||
Apple's ] video on features an iPhone bookmarked for Misplaced Pages, and a screenshot of the ] article. Very cool. - <span style="font-family: cursive">]</span> 19:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
* "<code><nowiki>{{PAGESIZE:Main Page}}</nowiki></code>" = "4,769" (default); | |||
* "<code><nowiki>{{PAGESIZE:Main Page|R}}</nowiki></code>" = "4769" (with raw flag). | |||
—<small>{]} ] 09:49:27, 03 May 2008 (UTC)</small> | |||
==National Post attacks editor, global warming coverage== | |||
== New and improved POTD system == | |||
The '']'' is running an by Lawrence Solomon (], author of a book and about global warming deniers) attacking ] for supposedly enforcing his own opinions on global warming articles and smearing prominent scientists whose views on global warming differ from "global warming orthodoxy". | |||
As part of Solomon's extended writing on "The Deniers", the ''Post'' has been publishing a series of anti-Misplaced Pages pieces in the last several weeks. The earlier ones are "", , and .--] (]) 17:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
We over at ] are pleased to announce the implementation of a new POTD system. Previously, only two formats were available to users who wanted to have the POTD on their user pages: {{tl|Pic of the day}} and {{tl|POTD}}. However, many were unhappy with this because those formats didn't fit into their user page designs. As of January 1, 2007, it is possible to customize the POTD display to only have the image (at any size), the blurb, the credit, the article that the picture comes from, or any combination thereof. Complete instructions may be found at ]. <span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#33C;">''']''' <small>{]}</small></span> 20:17, 9 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
==CAMERA campaign makes mainstream news== | |||
== Rise of the bots == | |||
Related to "Pro-Israel POV group" above: | |||
The ] (CAMERA) has been engaged in a campaign (the subject of a recently accepted ]) to fight against alleged anti-Israel bias in Misplaced Pages, including attempts to install administrators who can help enforce CAMERA's viewpoint. ''The Boston Globe'' (CAMERA is based in Boston) is running an article, , on the CAMERA campaign and the efforts of the pro-Palestinian ] to expose and discredit the campaign. | |||
A special article on the history of bots on Misplaced Pages could be quite interesting. ] will not conclude for several more days, but it could possibly be the first successful RfA for a bot. Additionally, several bots such as ] and ] have taken up tasks that have always been done manually until now. I aslo found ]'s about initial opposition to ] interesting in light of its current praise from countless users. Just a thought. ]-] 00:00, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Don't forget Jmaxbot and Dragonflybot. ] 00:05, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
::PS - I'd be thrilled if someone could automate the daily featured article. ] 00:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
::: And ] as well... can we have a bot that programs other bots? <tt>;)</tt> ]<sup>(])</sup> 01:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::I'm not sure... Bots don't always get along-- they've already started each other's edits. :-) ]-] 01:42, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::<big><big>]</big></big> ] 01:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
CAMERA also published an article today, , publicly encouraging CAMERA readers to become Misplaced Pages editors. On a quick review, I notice nothing too out-of-hand in this article (in contrast to some of the leaked correspondence described in the ''Boston Globe'' piece). | |||
I see lots of referencs to Curpsbot as well. What was that? Wasn't there a bot that added lots of small towns from some big database dump? ] 01:53, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Rambot was the bot that added the census articles. Curpsbot was a bot runs by Curps that used his admin powers to do bad things to bad people. ] 01:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
Note that this intersects with the recent ''Wikinews'' ] (also covered by ''The Register'' and elsewhere); the DoJ IPs were banned for attempting to remove material from the CAMERA article.--] (]) 01:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:] is helpful. See the entry on Curps's bot under "Bots running with administrator rights". It was created originally to stop Willy on Wheels style rapid fire pagemove vandalism (and good thing too, because it was deployed just after Willy appeared to fully automate his attack with a vandal bot). ] 10:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
I'm curious - where are the emails published? ] (]) 17:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
] might help. Anyone see any ''really interesting'' bots there? Or technically amazing or indispensable bots? ] 03:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
:... ] (]) 17:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:There are just under 400 bots in that category. ] and ] are also interesting. ] 03:57, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Hmm. Not very comprehensive though. I'm going to drop the links off over at ] and see if someone over there wants to update the pages. ] 04:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
===Sources=== | |||
== Filling in the blanks in the Globe and Mail == | |||
Here are some of the related sources covering the above-mentioned info. ] (]) 17:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=1485|title=CAMERA: How and Why to Edit Misplaced Pages|work=CAMERA - Media Analyses|publisher=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-03|last=Ini|first=Gilead}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/articles/2008/05/03/war_of_the_virtual_wiki_worlds/|title=War of the virtual Wiki-worlds|work=]|publisher=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2005-05-03|last=Beam|first=Alex}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/685052/Department_of_Justice_Temp_Banned_from_Wikipedia.html|title=Department of Justice Temp Banned from Misplaced Pages|work=G4 - The Feed - The Only News You Need to Know|publisher=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-04-30|last=Leahy|first=Brian}} | |||
*{{cite web | |||
|url=http://en.wikinews.org/US_Dept._of_Justice_IP_address_blocked_after_%27vandalism%27_edits_to_Wikipedia|title=US Dept. of Justice IP address blocked after 'vandalism' edits to Misplaced Pages|work=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-04-29}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=1840|title=If You Don`t Want to Be Labelled a Cabal, Don`t Act Like One|work=Israel News |publisher=www.israelenews.com|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-04-24|last=Weiss|first=Philip}} | |||
== Featured list director == | |||
A review of a book critical of Said's '']'': Carl Senna, "Dis-Oriented," '']''. ] ]. <small></small> | |||
*"Gaps in ]'s personal details once left him open to criticism that he had embellished his family's origins as Palestinian refugees. Yet according to Misplaced Pages, he was born in Jerusalem in 1935: 'His father was a wealthy Christian Palestinian businessman and an American citizen, while his mother was born in Nazareth of Christian Lebanese and Palestinian descent.'" ] 06:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
There is currently a movement/vote underway to select a Featured List director (or more probably two). See ] for background/ongoing discussion, and ] for the current vote. As FA director, ] has been asked (and has agreed) to close the vote and appoint the directors on 8th May. The two users with the most votes currently are ] and ]. ] (]) <small>(])</small> 13:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
==The world's most colorful boxer== | |||
: This will be covered in the May 12 Dispatch. ] (]) 13:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
There's an interesting use of wikipedia as a source on the last page of this court decision by Judge Posner. ] 09:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
:: Wouldn't it make sense to mention it before the voting closes as well? -] (]) 14:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::: Because ? It's announced at the Village Pump (proposals), Village Pump (policy) and all the important (i.e.; trafficed) FAC pages. ] (]) 14:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::: So? That isn't a reason to not mention it. I only came across the whole thing by chance - surely the more people who know, the better? ] (]) <small>(])</small> 15:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::: I don't see any reason why it can't get a brief mention in News and notes. ] (]) 22:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Calendar of upcoming events
I intend this to be a sort of calendar of upcoming events, on and off Misplaced Pages (particularly non-obvious events, that might be easily missed) -- things that readers might be interested in. Anyone can add events here.
- Nothing interesting is happening.
Requests for WikiProject features
If you'd like your WikiProject featured in an upcoming WikiProject report, feel free to list it here. Note that these requests are entirely advisory, and may or may not be used in future reports. Please do not "support" or "oppose" individual requests, and keep requests short and concise. Ral315 (talk) 05:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- WP:DINO, with over 90 members, the Dinosaur WikiProject is really dedicated to dinosaur coverage. See achievements for more information. Bibliomaniac15 21:51, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
- WikiProject Oregon is a lively and productive project that currently supports over 5000 articles, and has a dedicated core group of editors who work toward getting articles to GA and FA. Currently we are working on a response to the Oregon Historical Society's announcement that they are starting a collaborative encyclopedia project that will somehow be better than Misplaced Pages. Katr67 (talk) 02:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- WikiProject Saints, the only project which to my knowledge has gotten a barnstar from an outsider as a project. And, of course, considering it just declared indpendence, Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Kosovo might be the most timely. John Carter (talk) 19:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Textile Arts nearly died and came back to life. Originally begun in early 2007, by the start of December it had dwindled to just two active members. For a view of how much it's revived, here's its March newsletter (featured pictures, good articles, DYKs, and a featured portal drive). Durova 09:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Categories/uncategorized might be a nice success-story to include in some edition of the Signpost. Various gnomes have hacked away at this backlog ever since bots like Alaibot started populating it a year and a half ago. Of course, this is a never-ending task but it's an important one and the backlog typically hovers around 2000 articles (compared to 10 times that a year ago). Pichpich (talk) 13:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- WikiProject Long Island. Theres tons of things that happened in WP:LINY that would be great for the signpost. Nothing444 13:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
WikiPediaVision: Watch Realtime Misplaced Pages Edits
- Forrest, Brady (April 10, 2008). "WikiPediaVision: Watch Realtime Misplaced Pages Edits". O'Reilly Radar. Retrieved 2008-04-10.
- This looks neat. Cirt (talk) 21:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
http://www.lkozma.net/wpv/index.html That's the actual site, it's really interesting. Cirt (talk) 21:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- It's so cool. But how come 9 out of 10 anonymous edits are from U.S.? OhanaUnited 21:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Surely it would depend upon the time of day. The US would of course dominate during the hours when the Western hemisphere is most active. Also, the tool only tracks anonymous edits, and doesn't include IPs that can't be tied down to a single country, which may introduce unintentional biases. Still, I find this incredibly cool, and actually kind of inspiring.--Pharos (talk) 18:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
wikipedia and Suicide
The BMJ put wikipedia as the forth most common result of suicide releated terms and catigoriesed wikipedia as "Information site: factual"
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/336/7648/800
Geni 15:15, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
- Note that it's not claiming any of the suicide-related articles on Misplaced Pages are factually correct, only that Misplaced Pages falls within a class of sites deemed to present fact-based information about the topic (instead of, say, promoting suicide, or offering news reports about people who committed suicide). Mindmatrix 16:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Is Misplaced Pages a reliable source for sources? Seems so!
From this study seems we are getting better at citing our sources. Gnangarra 01:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
The Internet-based encyclopædia Misplaced Pages has grown to become one of the most visited Web sites on the Internet, but critics have questioned the quality of entries. An empirical study of Misplaced Pages found errors in a 2005 sample of science entries. Biased coverage and lack of sources are among the “Misplaced Pages risks.” This paper describes a simple assessment of these aspects by examining the outbound links from Misplaced Pages articles to articles in scientific journals with a comparison against journal statistics from Journal Citation Reports such as impact factors. The results show an increasing use of structured citation markup and good agreement with citation patterns seen in the scientific literature though with a slight tendency to cite articles in high-impact journals such as Nature and Science. These results increase confidence in Misplaced Pages as a reliable information resource for science in general. Many citations also go to Australian botany journals, seemingly because of the Banksia Wikiproject that has made well-referenced articles for this genus of plants with the beautiful flowers. A number of the articles for these plants has become so-called “featured” on Misplaced Pages: Coast Banksia, (this Banksia is listed as endangered), Heath-leaved Banksia and Banksia epica.
Newspaper picks up on local vandalism
A local paper finds that some IPs have been randomly vandalizing the article on their town (see diff). Paper apparently knows nothing about Misplaced Pages, saying "Efforts to reach Misplaced Pages officials for comment Tuesday were unsuccessful." Joshdboz (talk) 16:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
- Just a personal note: did someone really take the time to write a whole article on this? Must be a slow news week. And note that a municipal department had to be "alerted" about it! --Midnightdreary (talk) 15:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- True, though I think it also stems from a complete ignorance of what actually goes on here, so when they see something funny happening to an article relevant to them, it seems a lot more important than it really is. Joshdboz (talk) 15:57, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- Just a personal note: did someone really take the time to write a whole article on this? Must be a slow news week. And note that a municipal department had to be "alerted" about it! --Midnightdreary (talk) 15:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
And another on a series of vandalism to Denshaw. Joshdboz (talk) 13:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
BBC TV too, item here. Mr Stephen (talk) 22:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
The Daily Telegraph has also picked it up, here. Mr Stephen (talk) 13:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
And now Sky News--Anthony Nolan O'Nymous (talk) 15:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
UPI Joshdboz (talk) 21:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages, climate change, National Post and User:Tabletop
Well, well. National Post has some editorial about Misplaced Pages on climate change, and the writer does not seem to be pleased with User:Tabletop. SYSS Mouse (talk) 01:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Britannica WebShare
"Encyclopedia Britannica Now Free For Bloggers", by Michael Arrington, discusses Britannica's new widget trial program, Britannica WebShare, in which web publishers of various sorts are given free access to the full version of Britannica online, and the ability to link to individual articles for their readers to access. Most news coverage is describing this as an attempt to cope with what Misplaced Pages has done to their business model.
I suggest that the Signpost attempt to sign up as a web publisher, so that we could start a new feature of weekly in-depth comparison's of individual articles. It's a long shot whether they would accept us simply because we're part of their competition, but the Signpost would seem to fall within their definition of who is eligible for the program.--ragesoss (talk) 16:55, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- I am a bit confused why the possibility to link to a full article is being touted as news - this has already been possible for a long time, actually without the need to sign up as a web publisher. I am not sure when I saw that invitation to web masters on the EB site first, but I recall that this kind of free access had already been enabled when I made this edit in July 2007. Many Misplaced Pages articles already use this.
- By the way, last time I checked it didn't work for links on a preview page; you had to actually save the page. This probably means that they do not trust the HTTP referer alone, but check the page given there to verify that it actually links to the Britannica URL. (Or that someone at Britannica has taken some time to study MediaWiki URLs.)
- Regards, High on a tree (talk) 17:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. Maybe the only difference is that they are adding free 1-year subscriptions for "web publishers" to encourage more people to link to their (excessively ad-filled) articles. Some articles were describing this as part of a soft launch. In any case, now might be a good time to start a regular Signpost feature comparing specific articles.--ragesoss (talk) 19:08, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
User interface changes
Two changes were recently made:
- {{talkheader}} was changed on 8 April; it now automatically includes links to archive subpages, assuming the archive subpages are numbered in the standard manner (Archive 1, Archive 2, etc.). (Discussion.) That means it is no longer necessary to add the {{archive box}} template to a page in order to provide links to archive subpages (again, if named in the standard manner).
- The tab at the top of discussion pages that was labeled "+" is now labeled "new section", per this discussion. Editors who prefer the "+" label will find, at the "Gadgets" tab of "my preferences", the option (check box) that reads Change the "new section" tab text to instead display the much narrower "+", to put the tab back the way it was. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Another new change: Search now uses a suggestion drop-down— see . This can be disabled by checking:
- My Preferences → Search → Disable AJAX suggestions.
--— Gadget850 (Ed) - 18:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
If folks have not looked under My Preferences in a while, all sorts of options have been added in the last month or so, especially under Gadgets. See Special:Gadgets for definitions of all the installed gadgets. --— Gadget850 (Ed) - 23:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Pro-Israel POV group
With all the rumors swirling around about pro-Israel cabalism taking place, possibly including some admins, this thread may be of some interest to Misplaced Pages participants . One long-time editor has already been indef blocked over it. Cla68 (talk) 23:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- The episode has attracted press attention: . I'll try to add something to the Criticism of Misplaced Pages article about it. Cla68 (talk) 05:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- Although El Reg normally isn't a source Signpost would cite, this is currently on the front page of Slashdot. Durova 00:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- I suspect that in discussions in the future about advocacy groups trying to control a subject or view in Misplaced Pages that this case will be one the examples most frequently referenced. Cla68 (talk) 00:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- There have certainly been other instances of people attempting to manipulate content for ideological or profit motives. What I hope results from this is a realignment of the community's priorities. WP:COIN ought to be getting as many eyes and as much traffic as WP:AN. When the Wikiscanner came out last summer, three weeks of worldwide headlines proved that we weren't keeping our own house in order. That ought to have been a big eye opener; it wasn't. If it were reasonably certain that a campaign like this one would be caught - and swiftly - by Wikipedians, then this wouldn't be so much of a problem. Coordinated ideological manipulation of any sort is a direct assault on this site's credibility; our dedicated featured article writers would work in vain if the public weren't reasonably confident that most of Misplaced Pages is honest and most of the site is worth reading. Durova 18:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- I suspect that in discussions in the future about advocacy groups trying to control a subject or view in Misplaced Pages that this case will be one the examples most frequently referenced. Cla68 (talk) 00:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Although El Reg normally isn't a source Signpost would cite, this is currently on the front page of Slashdot. Durova 00:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
This didn't get covered in the latest edition of The Misplaced Pages Signpost, but FWIW here was the info covered in Wikinews from April 29 (new sources have covered it since then) - US Dept. of Justice IP address blocked after 'vandalism' edits to Misplaced Pages. Cirt (talk) 17:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Mention in Karen Joy Fowler's latest novel
I don't know if this is the sort of thing the Signpost runs, but just in case ... Misplaced Pages plays a minor but noticeable role in Fowler's latest novel, Wit's End. The novel includes (on pages 144 to 146) the text (somewhat modified) of a real article from Misplaced Pages, Holy City, California, illustrating what the protagonist finds as she researches Holy City on Misplaced Pages. Another major character, a fictional mystery writer named A.B. Early, is involved in a minor edit war over her own article. Fowler is most notable as the author of The Jane Austen Book Club. Mike Christie (talk) 02:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Mentioned in court by David Irving
David Irving, a "much-criticised historian", was recently evicted from a B&B due to his behavior. In an unsucessful breach-of-contract suit against the landlady Irving alleged that she "cooled towards him after her solicitor sent her a copy of his Misplaced Pages entry detailing his views and controversies." She denied it. The case was the written up in The Independent of London. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 10:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
wikipedia in mountain bike uk
wikipedia was in mountain bike uk fearuring some mountain biking terms Grandoldman (talk) 13:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
article 2,345,678
We announced article number 2,222,222. Do we announce 2,345,678? (I don't know which article that was). RJFJR (talk) 19:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- What's the point of looking for articles like that? I can see the importance of the 1 mill, 2 mill, and 2.5 millionth article, but what's the point? bibliomaniac15 Do I have your trust? 20:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
GA debate
I woul certainly hope that the next Signpost will include something about the rather fierce debate at WT:GA about putting the GA symbol on GA articles, similar to FAs. I have only see pros to this no cons. I would like to know if there are any cons to this. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 03:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, compared to previous discussions on the matter it's pretty tame. VanTucky 03:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- The current count as of 19:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC) is 47 in support and 25 opposed. There is also some discussion of which symbol to use. VanTucky
- Further, I've offered a Dispatch slot to Geometry guy if he wants it, but I don't think this is yet worthy of the Signpost. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages in the News - Devil Dog article
Recent editing to theDevil Dog article (refer to the United States Marine Corps nickname) has been mentioned in the Marine Corps Times in discussing the current perception of the term amongst Marines:
- Tilghman, Andrew (April 27, 2008). "'Devil Dog' term taking a beating". Marine Corps Times. Retrieved 2008-04-27.
— ERcheck (talk) 18:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Item for In the News
Newsweek article; Eddie Izzard discusses his use of Misplaced Pages, amongst other topics. This article also mentions that Izzard reads from (and riffs on) Misplaced Pages as part of his current stand-up tour.--Father Goose (talk) 07:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Technology author and blogger endorses Misplaced Pages
See Misplaced Pages's concept is proved, The News & Observer, 30 April 2008, by Paul Gilster. Carcharoth (talk) 13:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC) Mentioned previously by IP editor.
NYB
Clearly we are aware of the story by now. Please do not discuss the item any further here, per his wishes. Ral315 (talk) 16:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Edits of switching superdelegate's bio on Slate
The Trail Head campaign blog on Slate covered the Anatomy of a Misplaced Pages Hijacking, the vandalism and responses that occurred in Joe Andrew after Andrew announced switching his support as a superdelegate from Clinton to Obama.--ragesoss (talk) 16:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
EFF tries to get Misplaced Pages lawsuit dismissed
As covered in Kansas City infoZine, Ars Technica and elsewhere, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton law firm have filed a motion to dismiss a case brought against the Wikimedia Foundation in January. Literary agent Barbara Bauer sued over alleged defamation that occurred in the Misplaced Pages article about her (now deleted because of NPOV, BLP and reliable sourcing concerns, after a heated debate during the second deletion discussion). The EFF argues that Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act protects the WMF from liability, as an "interactive computer services" provider rather than a traditional publisher that directly controls published content. This is a test of one of the central legal issues that both directly and indirectly contributes to Misplaced Pages's handling of biographies of living people.--ragesoss (talk) 16:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- Note that this is almost certainly the first time that the legal theory that DMCA section 230 covers the WMF has been tested in court. Raul654 (talk) 17:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- Mike Godwin has requested any communications about this go to him, the EFF, or James Chadwick at Sheppard Mullin. Raul654 (talk) 17:46, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- The EFF motion frequently makes reference to a declaration by Mike Godwin. Is this available to read? VanTucky 02:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- According to Mike, the declaration you're referring to - which is not yet online - was a short declaration that the Barbara Bauer article is no longer available. Raul654 (talk) 16:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- The EFF motion frequently makes reference to a declaration by Mike Godwin. Is this available to read? VanTucky 02:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I see that a new Misplaced Pages article has been started, focusing on the case itself -- Bauer v. Glatzer. Cirt (talk) 17:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, Cirt. I have a draft up at User:Ragesoss/Bauer lawsuit. One thing I'm confused about is when this lawsuit started. Several sources mention January (2008), but mention of the lawsuit (with the same docket number as listed on the motion to dismiss) first appeared in the Barbara Bauer article well before that, and the court website lists it as having been filed in early March 2007.--ragesoss (talk) 17:53, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- I see that Ral315 (talk · contribs) deleted both Bauer v. Glatzer and User:Ragesoss/Bauer lawsuit citing a WP:OFFICE request. Perhaps given this new development, it would be best for any piece covering this to rely heavily, if not exclusively, on material from secondary sources, and explicitly attribute information to those sources with "According to...", etc. Cirt (talk) 17:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Mike Godwin has asked that we not publish an article on this until after the case is decided.--ragesoss (talk) 21:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- I see that Ral315 (talk · contribs) deleted both Bauer v. Glatzer and User:Ragesoss/Bauer lawsuit citing a WP:OFFICE request. Perhaps given this new development, it would be best for any piece covering this to rely heavily, if not exclusively, on material from secondary sources, and explicitly attribute information to those sources with "According to...", etc. Cirt (talk) 17:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Sources
Here are some sources that could be used. Cirt (talk) 17:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Davis, Wendy (2008-05-05). "Misplaced Pages Asks Court For Immunity From Liability For User Posts". MediaPost Publications. MediaPost Communications. Retrieved 2008-05-05.
- "EFF and Sheppard Mullin Defend Misplaced Pages in Defamation Case: Federal Law Protects Popular User-Created Encyclopedia From Liability". Electronic Frontier Foundation. www.eff.org. 2008-05-02. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- Anderson, Nate (2008-05-02). "Dumb idea: suing Misplaced Pages for calling you "dumb"". Ars Technica - The Art of Technology: From the News Desk. Ars Technica, LLC. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- Jones, K.C. (2008-05-02). "Misplaced Pages Battles Literary Agent Over Negative Comments: While many sites add user-generated content to enhance user experience, Misplaced Pages relies almost entirely on posts from contributors". InformationWeek. United Business Media. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- "Misplaced Pages v literary agent Barbara Bauer". p2pnet news. www.p2pnet.net. 2008-05-02. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- Bayard, Sam (2008-05-02). "Bauer v. Wikimedia". Citizen Media Law Project. www.citmedialaw.org, Project hosted by Berkman Center for Internet & Society. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
WikiProject Good Articles May Newsletter
The May Newsletter for WikiProject Good Articles has now been published. Dr. Cash (talk) 22:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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New magic word: PAGESIZE
A new magic word was recently implemented, but not covered in Misplaced Pages Signpost. {{PAGESIZE:page name}}
returns the size of the given page name (bug 12698, r33551). This contributes to a page's expensive parser function count. For example:
- "
{{PAGESIZE:Main Page}}
" = "4,769" (default); - "
{{PAGESIZE:Main Page|R}}
" = "4769" (with raw flag).
—{admin} Pathoschild 09:49:27, 03 May 2008 (UTC)
National Post attacks editor, global warming coverage
The National Post is running an opinion piece called "The opinionator" by Lawrence Solomon (User:Lawrence Solomon, author of a book and many articles about global warming deniers) attacking User:William M. Connolley for supposedly enforcing his own opinions on global warming articles and smearing prominent scientists whose views on global warming differ from "global warming orthodoxy".
As part of Solomon's extended writing on "The Deniers", the Post has been publishing a series of anti-Misplaced Pages pieces in the last several weeks. The earlier ones are "Misplaced Pages's zealots", Hide your name on Wicked Pedia, and The real climate Martians.--ragesoss (talk) 17:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
CAMERA campaign makes mainstream news
Related to "Pro-Israel POV group" above:
The Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA) has been engaged in a campaign (the subject of a recently accepted Arbcom case) to fight against alleged anti-Israel bias in Misplaced Pages, including attempts to install administrators who can help enforce CAMERA's viewpoint. The Boston Globe (CAMERA is based in Boston) is running an article, War of the virtual Wiki-worlds, on the CAMERA campaign and the efforts of the pro-Palestinian Electronic Intifada to expose and discredit the campaign.
CAMERA also published an article today, How and Why to Edit Misplaced Pages, publicly encouraging CAMERA readers to become Misplaced Pages editors. On a quick review, I notice nothing too out-of-hand in this article (in contrast to some of the leaked correspondence described in the Boston Globe piece).
Note that this intersects with the recent Wikinews Department of Justice banning story (also covered by The Register and elsewhere); the DoJ IPs were banned for attempting to remove material from the CAMERA article.--ragesoss (talk) 01:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm curious - where are the emails published? Raul654 (talk) 17:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Sources
Here are some of the related sources covering the above-mentioned info. Cirt (talk) 17:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ini, Gilead (2008-05-03). "CAMERA: How and Why to Edit Misplaced Pages". CAMERA - Media Analyses. Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- Beam, Alex (2005-05-03). "War of the virtual Wiki-worlds". The Boston Globe. The New York Times Company. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- Leahy, Brian (2008-04-30). "Department of Justice Temp Banned from Misplaced Pages". G4 - The Feed - The Only News You Need to Know. G4 TV. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- "US Dept. of Justice IP address blocked after 'vandalism' edits to Misplaced Pages". Wikinews. 2008-04-29. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- Weiss, Philip (2008-04-24). "If You Don`t Want to Be Labelled a Cabal, Don`t Act Like One". Israel News. www.israelenews.com. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
Featured list director
There is currently a movement/vote underway to select a Featured List director (or more probably two). See Misplaced Pages talk:Featured list candidates for background/ongoing discussion, and Misplaced Pages:Featured list candidates/Featured list director for the current vote. As FA director, User:Raul654 has been asked (and has agreed) to close the vote and appoint the directors on 8th May. The two users with the most votes currently are User:Scorpion0422 and User:The Rambling Man. Tompw (talk) (review) 13:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- This will be covered in the May 12 Dispatch. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it make sense to mention it before the voting closes as well? -Ravedave (talk) 14:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Because ? It's announced at the Village Pump (proposals), Village Pump (policy) and all the important (i.e.; trafficed) FAC pages. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- So? That isn't a reason to not mention it. I only came across the whole thing by chance - surely the more people who know, the better? Tompw (talk) (review) 15:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- I don't see any reason why it can't get a brief mention in News and notes. Ral315 (talk) 22:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- So? That isn't a reason to not mention it. I only came across the whole thing by chance - surely the more people who know, the better? Tompw (talk) (review) 15:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Because ? It's announced at the Village Pump (proposals), Village Pump (policy) and all the important (i.e.; trafficed) FAC pages. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it make sense to mention it before the voting closes as well? -Ravedave (talk) 14:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)