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== About ClueBot III JustArchiveThis == | ||
| Why the default are set to <code>|format=Y/F</code> when <code>format= %%i</code> is better according to the ]? | |||
| ] removed a equals sign from a section further down. That section was too new to be archived, so it shouldn't have been touched unless it was trying to update links to archived discussions. ] <sup>'']'' | '']''</sup> 09:57, 1 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :And again, ] ] <sup>'']'' | '']''</sup> 13:31, 4 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| Also can I to switch to numbered formats later? Or it's not possible because it will break the bot? - ] (]) 14:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == A bug? Bot removed an equal sign from section titles == | |||
| :Because ] to the documentation without updating ]. But I prefer dated archives, myself, because they just make more sense to me, but it's a debated issue. From a technical perspective, it's (slightly) better for the bot and the Misplaced Pages servers to use dated archives since then the bot doesn't have to "find" the right archive by checking the sizes of archives, it just knows based on the date. This isn't a big deal, but when it comes to defaults for a popular bot where most people won't care one way or another, it's better generally that the default be the more efficient option. <span style="color:#dbb5ff;font:bold 125% 'Brush Script MT',cursive;padding-left:.75em;padding-right:.5em">— ] ]</span> 23:56, 11 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| In this edit ] bot has removed one '=' character from titles of two sections. No idea, whether it has something to do with inline HTML comments appended to those titles. --] (]) 12:24, 2 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :I just noticed this behaviour too; this bot is inappropriately removing a leading '=' from talk page section headers; see . I had already fixed the problem once! Cheers, ''']''' 21:38, 4 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yeah, the section parser in the bot doesn't understand section headers that have anything after the closing = in a header. The section parser is a bit of a mess because wikitext is somewhat complicated to parse anyway. I'll see if I can spend some time to fix the parser, but for now, maybe edit that particular template not to do that? It's the first template I've seen that uses comments after a header. -- ]<sup>(]|]|])</sup> 23:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :What? ] ] ] 00:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| Why is it that the noncombatant {{u|ClueBot III}} has a more aggressive profile picture than {{u|ClueBot NG}} (actively bombing versus merely flying)? :-) —] (]) 10:02, 3 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :What? Bombing? No, those are threads being archived into oblivion! :P -- ]<sup>(]|]|])</sup> 23:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
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| == Talk Archive == | |||
| {{Ordered list|For some time, I have wondered if we should reinstate ] so it works alongside ] in finding and reverting vandalism. It has been on a WikiBreak for a long time, and I wondered if we should reinstate it and improve upon ClueBot so there would be two anti-vandalism bots working concurrently, similar to how we have ] and ] archiving pages.|When should an administrator switch ] to "True"? This bot has not been used since 2014, and I have wondered when ClueBot II will be back in service.|I am interested in helping review ClueBot NG's dataset to help identify vandalism and constructive edits in its corpus and to learn ]. I signed up for helping review the dataset, but my account is pending approval.}} ] (]) 03:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ClueBot III archives talk pages to ]. But it should be ]. | |||
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| {{Moved discussion to|User_talk:ClueBot_NG/Warnings/Vandal1#Template-protected_edit_request_on_6_January_2021%3A_message_wording}} | |||
| Hello all, and thanks for your work on ClueBot. A comment from an incorrigible proofreader, if I may: Template:uw-cluebotwarning1 currently produces the wording {{!xt|...one or more of your recent edits to ''x'' '''has''' been...}}. As ''one or more'' is plural, the wording should read {{xt|...one or more of your recent edits to ''x'' '''have''' been...}} (as it does in {{tl|uw-vandalism1}}, for example). ] <sup>]</sup> 15:38, 5 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| :The text at issue appears to be in ]. (As far as I see, there doesn't appear to be a ].) —] (]) 10:11, 6 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ah, yes, thanks! That didn't come up in my quest. Posting there. ] <sup>]</sup> 13:19, 6 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
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About ClueBot III JustArchiveThis
Why the default are set to |format=Y/F when format= %%i is better according to the documentation?
Also can I to switch to numbered formats later? Or it's not possible because it will break the bot? - Ivan530 (Talk) 14:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Because someone added that comment to the documentation without updating User:ClueBot III/JustArchiveThis. But I prefer dated archives, myself, because they just make more sense to me, but it's a debated issue. From a technical perspective, it's (slightly) better for the bot and the Misplaced Pages servers to use dated archives since then the bot doesn't have to "find" the right archive by checking the sizes of archives, it just knows based on the date. This isn't a big deal, but when it comes to defaults for a popular bot where most people won't care one way or another, it's better generally that the default be the more efficient option. — Naomi Amethyst 23:56, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
ClueBot-related statements
I have three statements about ClueBot Commons.
- For some time, I have wondered if we should reinstate ClueBot so it works alongside ClueBot NG in finding and reverting vandalism. It has been on a WikiBreak for a long time, and I wondered if we should reinstate it and improve upon ClueBot so there would be two anti-vandalism bots working concurrently, similar to how we have ClueBot III and Lowercase sigmabot III archiving pages.
- When should an administrator switch ClueBot II/Run to "True"? This bot has not been used since 2014, and I have wondered when ClueBot II will be back in service.
- I am interested in helping review ClueBot NG's dataset to help identify vandalism and constructive edits in its corpus and to learn machine learning. I signed up for helping review the dataset, but my account is pending approval.