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] describing the cost of the common cold<ref>{{cite web|title=The Cost of the Common Cold and Influenza |website=Imperial War Museum: Posters of Conflict |publisher=vads |url=http://vads.bath.ac.uk/flarge.php?uid=33443&sos=0 |url-status=dead |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20110727091037/http://vads.bath.ac.uk/flarge.php?uid=33443&sos=0 |archivedate=27 July 2011 |df= }}</ref>]] | |||
] describing the cost of the common cold<ref>{{cite web|title=The Cost of the Common Cold and Influenza |website=Imperial War Museum: Posters of Conflict |publisher=vads |url=http://vads.bath.ac.uk/flarge.php?uid=33443&sos=0 |url-status=dead |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20110727091037/http://vads.bath.ac.uk/flarge.php?uid=33443&sos=0 |archivedate=27 July 2011 |df= }}</ref>]] | |||
I have trouble reading the second one... ] (] · ] · ]) 21:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC) | |||
== No vaccine? Not entirely true! == | |||
"There is no vaccine for the common cold". | |||
Not entirely true. Adenoviruses are responsible for maybe only 5% of common colds, but many serious cases of common colds are caused by adenovirus. And there is a vaccine, by the Israel comopany Teva. | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/Adenovirus_vaccine | |||
The vaccine has been proven extremely efficient for what it was designed for. | |||
Correct me if I am mistaken. | |||
I'm sure Teva would by happy sell the vaccine to almost any government willing to buy it. | |||
--] (]) 18:19, 9 October 2020 (UTC) | |||
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Reviewer: MathewTownsend (talk · contribs) 21:28, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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- "While a cough and a fever indicate a higher likelihood of influenza in adults, there is a great deal of similarity between these two conditions" - different viruses? (Maybe could say a little more about the difference?)
- "it may also be related to changes in the respiratory system that results in greater susceptibility" - can this be explained more?
- "This is believed to be due primarily to increased time spent indoors,..." - is there a way of getting rid of the passive voice? (There are other examples also.)
- Herd immunity - Doesn't this apply to the prevalence of vaccinations? is there a vaccination for the cold?
- No, it does not apply only to vaccine-derived immunity, but naturally acquired immunity too. (See; Fine P, Eames K, Heymann DL (2011). ""Herd immunity": a rough guide". Clinical Infectious Diseases : an Official Publication of the Infectious Diseases Society of America. 52 (7): 911–6. doi:10.1093/cid/cir007. PMID 21427399.
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ignored (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)). Graham Colm (talk) 21:41, 29 December 2011 (UTC)- Perhaps the text in the link Herd immunity is misleading? It's under the general category of "Cause", so the impression is that people herded together cause the spread of the cold virus, when the opposite is meant if the link is actually read.— Preceding unsigned comment added by MathewTownsend (talk • contribs)
- I am not sure if my clarification helped.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:59, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps the text in the link Herd immunity is misleading? It's under the general category of "Cause", so the impression is that people herded together cause the spread of the cold virus, when the opposite is meant if the link is actually read.— Preceding unsigned comment added by MathewTownsend (talk • contribs)
- No, it does not apply only to vaccine-derived immunity, but naturally acquired immunity too. (See; Fine P, Eames K, Heymann DL (2011). ""Herd immunity": a rough guide". Clinical Infectious Diseases : an Official Publication of the Infectious Diseases Society of America. 52 (7): 911–6. doi:10.1093/cid/cir007. PMID 21427399.
::::Perhaps the text in the link Herd immunity is misleading? It's under the general category of "Cause", so the impression is that people herded together cause the spread of the cold virus, when the opposite is meant if the link is actually read. Fixed I see.
- Yes it did. We got caught in an edit conflict.
- "regarding BTA-798" - what is BTA-798? - could "regarding" be changed to "to"?
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- A very informative and helpful article. (Even though I don't get colds, everyone around me does!) Good work! Congratulations! MathewTownsend (talk) 23:03, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
The article says "The primary method of prevention is by hand washing". I don't know if this means I can prevent other people catching my cold if I wash my hands, or if it means other people can stop themselves catching my cold if they wash their hands, or if it means I can prevent myself catching other people's colds if I wash my hands. Or does it mean I can prevent the symptoms getting very bad, after I catch a cold, by washing my hands?86.131.54.100 (talk) 22:12, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Eccles ref
I see a ref with Eccles and a page number, I do not know this ref. It is quasi impossible for someone reading this article to know which book are we talking about. I am deleting the claim associated. Huhiop (talk) 17:54, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi! I noticed this as well a few months ago. This ref is in the works-cited list. At the time I was not aware of this reference formatting for text books.
- Works cited
- Eccles, Ronald; Weber, Olaf, eds. (2009). Common Cold (Illustrated ed.). Springer Science & Business Media. ISBN 978-3-7643-9912-2.2
- I see you removed "The common cold is frequently defined as nasal inflammation with varying amount of throat inflammation." This reference (textbook) is outdated, regardless. Should we look for a more recent reference or not add back in this sentence?
- JenOttawa (talk) 19:39, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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- Eccles pp. 51–52
- I guess not adding back to be compliant with MEDRS (see my talk page) Huhiop (talk) 18:41, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Terminology
As I read this and the Coryza/Rhinitis entry, I surmise the forner is a symptom of the common cold, but not strictly speaking a synonym for the term as it is often used. Is this correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:346:1180:4320:11E:583E:AE17:F5BB (talk) 17:40, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
"viral disease" vs "group of viral diseases"
Since the common cold doesn't refer to single virus family (compared to e.g. Flu), would it be sensible to edit the lead sentence:
- Currently: "The common cold ... is a viral infectious disease"
- Proposed alt1: "The common cold ... is a group of viral infectious diseases"
- Proposed alt2: "The common cold ... is an infectious diseases, caused by a number of viruses"
I realise it's clarified in lead paragraph 2 that it's not just rhinoviruses, but it could be worth synchronising the lead sentence to that phrasing (e.g. it's linked from Coronavirus#Common_cold. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo) 05:57, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's not a group of diseases. Acute respiratory viral infections can be represented in different forms including common cold and acute bronchitis. Both are different diseases with different infection localization. Same pathogen can cause common cold and acute bronchitis thereafter. -- D6194c-1cc (talk) 20:08, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Common cold as clinical syndrome
Currently common cold is defined as ″viral infectious disease of the upper respiratory tract″. But in fact about 30% of common cold cases have no identified pathogen and in about 5% of cases bacterial agent is found through its casual role is not established (). Moreover the disease can be caused by about 200 different viruses. Simptomes are similar and the disease can be even self-diagnosed without any tests. So it can be defined as a clinical syndrome. Some medical articles define common cold as a syndrome: . Here's some information about syndrome vs disease meaning: . As I think defining the disease as clinical syndrome would be more accurate since many cases have no identified pathogen and the disease is caused by many different viruses. What do you think? -- D6194c-1cc (talk) 17:01, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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