Misplaced Pages

Talk:Alvin York: Difference between revisions

Article snapshot taken from Wikipedia with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.
Browse history interactively← Previous editNext edit →Content deleted Content addedVisualWikitext
Revision as of 18:36, 13 September 2021 editJamespgj (talk | contribs)51 edits Use of Mastriano's book as a source?← Previous edit Revision as of 09:57, 12 February 2022 edit undoGraham87 (talk | contribs)Account creators, Autopatrolled, Event coordinators, Extended confirmed users, Page movers, Importers, Rollbackers291,848 edits manually archive unsigned comments, sign oneNext edit →
Line 27: Line 27:
{{Vital article|level=5|topic=People|subpage=Military leaders|class=C}} {{Vital article|level=5|topic=People|subpage=Military leaders|class=C}}
{{User:MiszaBot/config | algo = old(30d) | archive = Talk:Alvin York/Archive %(counter)d | counter = 1 | maxarchivesize = 150K | archiveheader = {{Automatic archive navigator}} | minthreadstoarchive = 1 | minthreadsleft = 6 }} {{User:MiszaBot/config | algo = old(30d) | archive = Talk:Alvin York/Archive %(counter)d | counter = 1 | maxarchivesize = 150K | archiveheader = {{Automatic archive navigator}} | minthreadstoarchive = 1 | minthreadsleft = 6 }}

==Replace Photo?==

Can the photo be replaced with the one on the National Archives page (listed in the External Links section)? As it is originally from the records of the Selective Service System, I do not believe there is any copyright.

==Passage about Religion==
"York’s old friends tried to persuade him to go drinking, but he continually refused. It took a lot of moral courage for York to remain firmly committed to His Lord. But with the strength of the Holy Spirit and his personal resolve, York remained on the Lord’s side. This sharpened York’s character and moral courage, directly contributing to his heroic deeds in the midst of battle only two years later." Whoa. I understand that Christianity was a major influence on York, but this sounds like it reads from a Christian pamphlet about him. However, I can see incorporating something -like- this if someone has a source on York saying something like this. Otherwise, it needs to be rewritten. Any ideas? ] 22:42 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the question. Strong words about York's faith? Too strong for the times we live in? Perhaps, as many Americans today are squeamish about things of faith. But, your point is well taken and historians must cite sources. Here are the primary sources. This, as the article, is based upon York's own words. Please take the time to review the following sources. Please write back if you wish the complete dose of sources.

Richard Wheeler, ed., Sergeant York and the Great War (Mantle Ministries; Bulverde, TX, 1998).
The Diary of Alvin York, 18 October 2001 at http://acacia.pair.com/Acacia.Vignettes/The.Diary.of.Alvin.York.html
The Diary of SGT York, 18 October 2001 at http://volweb.utk.edu/school/York/diary.html
Interview with Colonel Gerald York, grandson of Alvin York, in April 1996.
http://volweb.utk.edu/Schools/York/biography.html Alvin C. York by Gladys Williams
COL Jeff O'Leary, Brave Hearts under Red Skies

==York's Faith==

It is refreshing to have an honest and accurate article in Misplaced Pages about York's faith. This faith is what makes the York story different from the average war story and biography. The article helped to explain to me why there was something different about York and I now understand. Thanks for the excellent article that put everything together in a clear and very well documented manner. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) {{{Time|05:29, August 23, 2007 (UTC)}}}</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== External links modified == == External links modified ==
Line 87: Line 67:
There are complaints about the accuracy of Mastriano's book, including the description of the photograph on the dust jacket and thirty-five citations that are believed to be fraudulent. The work in question, ''Alvin York: A New Biography of the Hero of the Argonne'' and should probably not be cited in this article. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> There are complaints about the accuracy of Mastriano's book, including the description of the photograph on the dust jacket and thirty-five citations that are believed to be fraudulent. The work in question, ''Alvin York: A New Biography of the Hero of the Argonne'' and should probably not be cited in this article. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


The University Press of Kentucky confirmed the factual-errors reported in Mastriano's book. Therefore, it is not a reliable source and should not be cited in this article. The University Press of Kentucky confirmed the factual-errors reported in Mastriano's book. Therefore, it is not a reliable source and should not be cited in this article. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:36, 13 September 2021 (UTC)</span>

Revision as of 09:57, 12 February 2022

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Alvin York article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.
Article policies
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Archives: 1Auto-archiving period: 30 days 
This article has not yet been rated on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects.
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.
WikiProject iconBiography: Military
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Misplaced Pages's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by the military biography work group (assessed as Mid-importance).
WikiProject iconMilitary history: Biography / North America / United States / World War I
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history
B checklist
This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
  1. Referencing and citation: criterion met
  2. Coverage and accuracy: criterion met
  3. Structure: criterion met
  4. Grammar and style: criterion met
  5. Supporting materials: criterion met
Associated task forces:
Taskforce icon
Military biography task force
Taskforce icon
North American military history task force
Taskforce icon
United States military history task force
Taskforce icon
World War I task force
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.
WikiProject iconPritzker Military Library Low‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is related to the Pritzker Military Museum & Library WikiProject. Please copy assessments of the article from the most major WikiProject template to this one as needed.Pritzker Military LibraryWikipedia:GLAM/PritzkerTemplate:WikiProject Pritzker-GLAMPritzker Military Library-related
LowThis article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.
WikiProject iconUnited States Low‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States
LowThis article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.
WikiProject iconTennessee Mid‑importance
WikiProject iconAlvin York is within the scope of WikiProject Tennessee, an open collaborative effort to coordinate work for and sustain comprehensive coverage of Tennessee and related subjects in the Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, and even become a member.
TennesseeWikipedia:WikiProject TennesseeTemplate:WikiProject TennesseeTennessee
MidThis article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
A fact from this article was featured on Misplaced Pages's Main Page in the On this day section on October 8, 2009, October 8, 2010, October 8, 2013, and October 8, 2018.

Template:Vital article

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 7 external links on Alvin York. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 03:14, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 4 external links on Alvin York. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 12:01, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Use of Mastriano's book as a source?

There are complaints about the accuracy of Mastriano's book, including the description of the photograph on the dust jacket and thirty-five citations that are believed to be fraudulent. The work in question, Alvin York: A New Biography of the Hero of the Argonne may not be a reliable source and should probably not be cited in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.158.58 (talk) 17:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

The University Press of Kentucky confirmed the factual-errors reported in Mastriano's book. Therefore, it is not a reliable source and should not be cited in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamespgj (talkcontribs) 18:36, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Categories: