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== SPI mess-up ==

Hi Hunan201p! This SPI was clearly misplaced: ]. The editor behind these IPs obviously is the Austrian IP, not DH/Vamlos etc.

The story goes like this: the original "WCF" was the same person as DH/Vamlos etc. At a later stage, a sock farm surrounding ] (original sockmaster: ] = "Austrian IP") was erroneously conflated with WCF. Subsequently, the original WCF and the "Austrian IP" were handled in one SPI, resulting in a weird assemblage of blocked editors with completely different editing profiles.

Finally, these two actors have been disentangled, but paradoxically, it was Vamlos that was split out, even though he is the original WCF, while the "Austrian IP" remains as the sockmaster in the WCF-SPI page.

If you detect the smell of a sock spirit and are unsure which one of these two actors it is, you can ping me first. I think I have developed quite a sense for keeping these two troublesome individuals apart. ] (]) 16:52, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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Ashina tribe

Hunan201p, I want to know which part from the Ashina tribe that you disagrees with me. I suggest you reply here https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Ashina_tribe I need to know so I can make a proper third opinion request.Ghizz Archus (talk) 22:15, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Kolyma1

Hi! I (with heavy heart and sad face ☹️) reverted your addition to Yana RHS article as I thought it was a bit undue for that article, since Kolyma1 is not from there and is Mesolithic. Perhaps we should start a Ancient North Siberians/Ancient Palaeo-Siberians article?  Tewdar  09:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

I agree with Tewdar that your edit was a bit off-topic. Kolyma1 is mentioned in the article because of the ancestral link to Yana, but then it's not an article for all about Kolyma1. What about extending the scope of Ancient North Eurasians for that purpose (well, it already has been extended somehow to include Yana etc.)? There was a craze especially among IE identitarians about Mal'ta especially before EHG came into the scene, but actually MA-1 is just a part of a bigger complex of early Siberian populations, so a standalone about MA-1 is a bit undue IMHO. Austronesier (talk) 10:06, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm actually starting to think articles along the lines of "Palaeogenetics of North-East wherever" might be a better strategy for our archaeogenetics articles. So we could bunch ANE, ANS, APS together on the same article, explaining how they differ, and so on. Might require a page move, though, rather than just extending the scope of Ancient North Eurasians... since that might get confusing... what do we all think about that?  Tewdar  10:12, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Apologies, folks. Most of the reports I have read about this study described Kolyma1 as a woman, which I guess I took at face value since I don't recall learning that Kolyma1 had been assigned male (I gleamed the haplogroup info I added from Dryomov, et al (2020) rather than Sikora, et al (2019)). But this happens from time to time when taking pop-sci at face value... - Hunan201p (talk) 10:25, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
The Sikora paper itself describes Kolyma1 as female! You have to look in the supplementary tables to learn otherwise... You actually reminded me to fix my (and their) mistake, so thanks! 😁  Tewdar  10:46, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
(edit conflict)@Tewdar: Yes, I don't mean to keep "Ancient North Eurasians" as the page title for an article of wider scope. We can of course build a new article from scratch and keep Ancient North Eurasians as is (but less coatrackish). It will certainly be fun to cover the whole topic range of the Genetic history of East Siberia (or watchamacallit...), from the makeup of the earliest populations to their traces in modern populations from Europe to the Americas, but also how their genetic heritage increasingly became diluted in its "home area" with repeated ingressions of East Asian ancestry. –Austronesier (talk) 10:34, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
How about one of us starts a sandbox 'Genetic history of East Watchamacallit', we add the worthwhile information from the ANE article to it, then add some other stuff from Yana, Kolyma1, etc., then delete the ANE article and move the new article to mainspace (pending consensus, time, etc.)? It does sound fun, doesn't it? 😊👍  Tewdar  10:46, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
In any case, we could just start working on the new article, no matter what the fate of Ancient North Eurasians turns out to be...  Tewdar  10:56, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

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SPI mess-up

Hi Hunan201p! This SPI was clearly misplaced: Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/Vamlos/Archive#17_November_2022. The editor behind these IPs obviously is the Austrian IP, not DH/Vamlos etc.

The story goes like this: the original "WCF" was the same person as DH/Vamlos etc. At a later stage, a sock farm surrounding User:Kumasojin 熊襲 (original sockmaster: User:Satoshi Kondo = "Austrian IP") was erroneously conflated with WCF. Subsequently, the original WCF and the "Austrian IP" were handled in one SPI, resulting in a weird assemblage of blocked editors with completely different editing profiles.

Finally, these two actors have been disentangled, but paradoxically, it was Vamlos that was split out, even though he is the original WCF, while the "Austrian IP" remains as the sockmaster in the WCF-SPI page.

If you detect the smell of a sock spirit and are unsure which one of these two actors it is, you can ping me first. I think I have developed quite a sense for keeping these two troublesome individuals apart. Austronesier (talk) 16:52, 19 November 2022 (UTC)