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American primacy
Earlier you removed my addition on the Polarity (international relations) page under American primacy for focusing on primary sources. Why was it removed? I'm confused because everything else in this section seems to focus on primary sources too.Yaboijoshy (talk) 21:51, 16 April 2023 (UTC) Yaboijoshy (talk) 21:33, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Your additions seem to be particularly focused on adding opinions by those two economists to the article. Are you associated with them in some way? MrOllie (talk) 21:55, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- I am not associated with them. I recently found their work and thought it would be a good addition to the page. I am also new to editing Misplaced Pages and am still learning. The reason all of my edits focus on them is because those are the only edits I have made on all of Misplaced Pages to date. Yaboijoshy (talk) 22:00, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- I am an undergraduate and wrote a paper (not published to the internet) about this topic in economics. I was offered extra credit for using what I learned through my research to edit a Misplaced Pages page with a sizeable entry (150+ words) and have that entry stay up for 3 weeks. My motive and personal views are irrelevant, though. I did not delete the information of any other contributors and a reader of the page could come to any number of conclusions by reading the section. I presented the information I had learned in a similar tone to the rest of the section and the larger article. Yaboijoshy (talk) 22:32, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Please direct your instructor to Misplaced Pages:Student_assignments. Your grade should not be contingent on text remaining in the article for some period of time, that has proven to lead to bad outcomes for everyone involved. MrOllie (talk) 23:30, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Regardless, my sources for my contribution were on-par with and similar to the other ones on the page. Since I fully intend on continuing to edit Misplaced Pages outside of the classroom setting, it would be helpful if you could tell me what I did wrong so I can learn from the experience. I understand that some of the discussion points are controversial. But, Misplaced Pages articles display information from sources with a variety of views. If I were to mention the ideologic bias of the economists would that make my addition acceptable? Yaboijoshy (talk) 01:43, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- I can't speak to what might or might not be acceptable to everyone who edits that page, that's the sort of discussion you should be having on the article talk page. Since you expect to get credit for this, be sure to mention the conflict of interest if you decide to open a discussion. MrOllie (talk) 01:45, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- I don't expect anything from my contribution. Do you know what "extra credit" means? I have no problem with my contributions being removed if an adequate reason is provided. You said your reason for removing my work was for "undue reliance on primary sources". Despite this, all of the information in the American primacy section seems to also come from books written by the authors they mention. Following this logic, why was my contribution removed while everyone else's is fine? Yaboijoshy (talk) 18:25, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Do you know what "extra credit" means?
I know it means you have a reason other than improving the encyclopedia involved in your editing, which is what the WP:COI guidelines are all about. I take no position on other stuff in the article - there may well be other problems. That doesn't mean that you should add more problems. MrOllie (talk) 18:53, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- I don't expect anything from my contribution. Do you know what "extra credit" means? I have no problem with my contributions being removed if an adequate reason is provided. You said your reason for removing my work was for "undue reliance on primary sources". Despite this, all of the information in the American primacy section seems to also come from books written by the authors they mention. Following this logic, why was my contribution removed while everyone else's is fine? Yaboijoshy (talk) 18:25, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- I can't speak to what might or might not be acceptable to everyone who edits that page, that's the sort of discussion you should be having on the article talk page. Since you expect to get credit for this, be sure to mention the conflict of interest if you decide to open a discussion. MrOllie (talk) 01:45, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Regardless, my sources for my contribution were on-par with and similar to the other ones on the page. Since I fully intend on continuing to edit Misplaced Pages outside of the classroom setting, it would be helpful if you could tell me what I did wrong so I can learn from the experience. I understand that some of the discussion points are controversial. But, Misplaced Pages articles display information from sources with a variety of views. If I were to mention the ideologic bias of the economists would that make my addition acceptable? Yaboijoshy (talk) 01:43, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Please direct your instructor to Misplaced Pages:Student_assignments. Your grade should not be contingent on text remaining in the article for some period of time, that has proven to lead to bad outcomes for everyone involved. MrOllie (talk) 23:30, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- I am an undergraduate and wrote a paper (not published to the internet) about this topic in economics. I was offered extra credit for using what I learned through my research to edit a Misplaced Pages page with a sizeable entry (150+ words) and have that entry stay up for 3 weeks. My motive and personal views are irrelevant, though. I did not delete the information of any other contributors and a reader of the page could come to any number of conclusions by reading the section. I presented the information I had learned in a similar tone to the rest of the section and the larger article. Yaboijoshy (talk) 22:32, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- I am not associated with them. I recently found their work and thought it would be a good addition to the page. I am also new to editing Misplaced Pages and am still learning. The reason all of my edits focus on them is because those are the only edits I have made on all of Misplaced Pages to date. Yaboijoshy (talk) 22:00, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
deleting my edits
ok, my edit on gpus, was kinda off, but my edit on Nintendo switch lite was perfect why were you supposed to change it Accensions (talk) 12:11, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- We don't put minor trivia in the lead sections of articles. MrOllie (talk) 12:19, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- well i had to add it, since it wasnt in the rest of the page. not text nor atleast an image Accensions (talk) 12:22, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- 1) The lead summarizes the body of the article - nothing should be in the lead without being in the article body and 2) See WP:V and WP:RS, everything you add must be supported by a citation to a reliable source. - MrOllie (talk) 12:23, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- well, a reliable source is the Nintendo switch website itself, and about "1" okay ill add a paragraph about the colors and the release date of each color, please let me do it... I really want to do an actual wikipedia edit, since im new to wikipedia editing Accensions (talk) 12:27, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- That's already in the article, we don't need the same information twice. MrOllie (talk) 12:33, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- that shouldnt be in the "release" section, you should add a "colors" section Accensions (talk) 12:35, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- It's good where it is. If you're just looking for an edit to make, pick something off the list at Category:Articles_needing_cleanup and make some fixes. MrOllie (talk) 12:53, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- that shouldnt be in the "release" section, you should add a "colors" section Accensions (talk) 12:35, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- That's already in the article, we don't need the same information twice. MrOllie (talk) 12:33, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- well, a reliable source is the Nintendo switch website itself, and about "1" okay ill add a paragraph about the colors and the release date of each color, please let me do it... I really want to do an actual wikipedia edit, since im new to wikipedia editing Accensions (talk) 12:27, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- 1) The lead summarizes the body of the article - nothing should be in the lead without being in the article body and 2) See WP:V and WP:RS, everything you add must be supported by a citation to a reliable source. - MrOllie (talk) 12:23, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- well i had to add it, since it wasnt in the rest of the page. not text nor atleast an image Accensions (talk) 12:22, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
List of environmental organizations
added the organization ParaLaNaturaleza to the Environmental Organizations list for Puerto Rico and you removed it. It is a very large organization and I referenced their webpage. Why is it removed? (talk) 10:00, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- That is a list of organizations with preexisting Misplaced Pages articles. - MrOllie (talk) 11:59, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Olfactory art
Hello MrOllie, Why have you deleted the additional information and links about Perfumed Art and Olfactory which is in direct relation with the olfactory art thematic, bringing more references in this field? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hermes1968 (talk • contribs)
- Misplaced Pages is not a link directory, it is not a place to dump lists of links. See WP:NOT and WP:ELNO. It is also not a place to post opinionated essays, see WP:NPOV and WP:NOR. - MrOllie (talk) 20:30, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- It is additional information and absolutely not post opinionated essays, it is the source of information completing the previous incomplete list about olfactory art. Are you specialist in this domain and how you could cut the information withouts understanding? Hermes1968 (talk) 20:35, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages is not an indiscriminate collection of information, it is an encyclopedia and essays expressing opinions are off topic here. I understand your 'information', I simply disagree that it belongs on this web site. MrOllie (talk) 20:36, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- Your opinion is discriminative because you are mentioning (" I simply disagree that it belongs on this web site").
- and writing by separate e-mail:
- ("If you continue to disrupt Misplaced Pages, you may be blocked from editing". MrOllie (talk) 17:39, 23 April 2023 (UTC))
- Creative or Corrupt? How Wikipedians decide if a new contribution is "good" or "bad" - ref: Ethics.harvard.edu Hermes1968 (talk) 20:18, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Both are true: if you keep adding material that violates Misplaced Pages's content policies, you will probably be blocked. MrOllie (talk) 20:21, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- The material which I am adding is an additional and new information in this field and you even don’t know the context because you are deleting the information immediately 2 min after every edition i.e. you are even not reading and not analysing, just deleting. You are a troublemaker in a useful Misplaced Pages community. Hermes1968 (talk) 19:26, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- It plainly violates Misplaced Pages's content policies. I have read it. It does not belong here. Making personal attacks on me will not change that. MrOllie (talk) 20:23, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- The material which I am adding is an additional and new information in this field and you even don’t know the context because you are deleting the information immediately 2 min after every edition i.e. you are even not reading and not analysing, just deleting. You are a troublemaker in a useful Misplaced Pages community. Hermes1968 (talk) 19:26, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Both are true: if you keep adding material that violates Misplaced Pages's content policies, you will probably be blocked. MrOllie (talk) 20:21, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages is not an indiscriminate collection of information, it is an encyclopedia and essays expressing opinions are off topic here. I understand your 'information', I simply disagree that it belongs on this web site. MrOllie (talk) 20:36, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- It is additional information and absolutely not post opinionated essays, it is the source of information completing the previous incomplete list about olfactory art. Are you specialist in this domain and how you could cut the information withouts understanding? Hermes1968 (talk) 20:35, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Pentagon UFO videos 3RR violation
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Enix150 (talk) 00:16, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- I was working toward a consensus. You violated the rules by reverting so many times. Enix150 (talk) 00:18, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- 1) I've reverted exactly as many times as you have. 2) Don't put stuff back on my talk page after I've removed it. MrOllie (talk) 00:24, 25 April 2023 (UTC)