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:It might appear that way, but as ] states at the outset, "In many cases (but not all), single editors engaged in ownership conflicts are also primary contributors to the article, so keep in mind that such editors may be experts in their field or have a genuine interest in maintaining the quality of the article and preserving accuracy. An editor who appears to assume ownership of an article should be approached on the article's talk page with a descriptive header informing readers about the topic." Although I am not ''the'' primary contributor, I have spent time crafting different aspects of the article, and also of related articles, such as ], ], ], ]. People are quick to assert rights (the right to be BOLD, the right to copy and paste, the right to edit war, the right to assert equality in every aspect of the WP endeavor) but not a peep is heard about responsibility (the responsibility of maintaining the article, of writing reasonably well-crafted ], which takes years if not decades to hone. :It might appear that way, but as ] states at the outset, "In many cases (but not all), single editors engaged in ownership conflicts are also primary contributors to the article, so keep in mind that such editors may be experts in their field or have a genuine interest in maintaining the quality of the article and preserving accuracy. An editor who appears to assume ownership of an article should be approached on the article's talk page with a descriptive header informing readers about the topic." Although I am not ''the'' primary contributor, I have spent time crafting different aspects of the article, and also of related articles, such as ], ], ], ]. People are quick to assert rights (the right to be BOLD, the right to copy and paste, the right to edit war, the right to assert equality in every aspect of the WP endeavor) but not a peep is heard about responsibility (the responsibility of maintaining the article, of writing reasonably well-crafted ], which takes years if not decades to hone.
:Look at yourself {{re|CapnJackSp}}: you have no compunction leaving a superciliously preachy message on my talk page about my behavior, but—as you have been tinkering with the lead of ], adding which I in the many years of my involvement in Indian history topics, have never seen mentioned in a —have you never thought about leaving a post here complementing me on my contributions to the Gandhi article? ]] 16:37, 20 July 2023 (UTC) :Look at yourself {{re|CapnJackSp}}: you have no compunction leaving a superciliously preachy message on my talk page about my behavior, but—as you have been tinkering with the lead of ], adding which I in the many years of my involvement in Indian history topics, have never seen mentioned in a —have you never thought about leaving a post here complementing me on my contributions to the Gandhi article? ]] 16:37, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
::While your contributions are not worthless, keep in mind that those do not empower you to talk down to others on the basis of the belief that you must be right. You may certainly know a lot about the topics you edit around, but the assumption you know enough to disregard others is incompatible with how we handle disputes.<br>It is good that you acknowledge that you were not the primary contributor to the article - Accepting that is a positive step. You should also try to work collaboratively when challenged. That would be quite an improvement. <br>As for the edit you pulled up, my phase was quite accurate. "Rashtra Pita" is used commonly in India for Gandhi. Your version, where you inserted "but not officially" was quite out of place. It was an improvement over your version which moved the wording closer back to the one before your edit while accommodating your "official" concerns.<br>Anyway, I doubt that this message will push you to improve drastically, but incremental improvements in behaviour would also be fine. :) <br>Cheers, ] (]) 17:06, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

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Reiterating as much for myself as for others that for the next several months I shall be working on three articles, Mandell Creighton, Company rule in India, and History of English grammars. They have been on my backburner far too long. My time for all other activities on Misplaced Pages will be severely restricted.
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India-related FPs I

  • Indian vultures, (Gyps indicus), in a nest on the tower of the Chaturbhuj Temple, Orchha, Madhya Pradesh. The vulture became nearly extinct in India in the 1990s from having ingested the carrion of diclofenac-laced cattle. Indian vultures, (Gyps indicus), in a nest on the tower of the Chaturbhuj Temple, Orchha, Madhya Pradesh. The vulture became nearly extinct in India in the 1990s from having ingested the carrion of diclofenac-laced cattle.
  • The bank myna is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent. The bank myna is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent.
  • The vulnerable Malabar frog is endemic to the Western Ghats. The vulnerable Malabar frog is endemic to the Western Ghats.
  • The endangered Nilgiri tahr is endemic to the Western Ghats. Shown here is a female in a national park in Kerala. The endangered Nilgiri tahr is endemic to the Western Ghats. Shown here is a female in a national park in Kerala.

India-related FPs II

  • The brahminy kite (Haliastur indus) hunts for fish and other prey near the coasts and around inland wetlands. The brahminy kite (Haliastur indus) hunts for fish and other prey near the coasts and around inland wetlands.
  • The lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) is the Indian national flower. Hindus and Buddhists regard it as a sacred symbol of enlightenment. The lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) is the Indian national flower. Hindus and Buddhists regard it as a sacred symbol of enlightenment.
  • The Indian peafowl (Pavo cristatus) is the Indian national bird. It roosts in moist and dry-deciduous forests, cultivated areas, and village precincts. The Indian peafowl (Pavo cristatus) is the Indian national bird. It roosts in moist and dry-deciduous forests, cultivated areas, and village precincts.
  • The Pahalgam valley in Jammu and Kashmir is covered with a temperate coniferous forest. The Pahalgam valley in Jammu and Kashmir is covered with a temperate coniferous forest.

India-related FPs III

India-related FPs IV

  • Large Gautama Buddha statue in Buddha Park of Ravangla, Sikkim Large Gautama Buddha statue in Buddha Park of Ravangla, Sikkim
  • A Jain woman washes the feet of Bahubali Gomateswara at Shravanabelagola, Karnataka. The Bahubali idol is 18 metres (58 ft) high and is carved out of a single rock on top of a hill. A Jain woman washes the feet of Bahubali Gomateswara at Shravanabelagola, Karnataka. The Bahubali idol is 18 metres (58 ft) high and is carved out of a single rock on top of a hill.
  • A Chola bronze depicting Nataraja, who is seen as a cosmic "Lord of the Dance" and representative of Shiva A Chola bronze depicting Nataraja, who is seen as a cosmic "Lord of the Dance" and representative of Shiva
  • A sixteenth century rendering of a scene from the Ramayana, an ancient Sanskrit epic. A sixteenth century rendering of a scene from the Ramayana, an ancient Sanskrit epic.

India-related FPs V

India-related FPs VI

  • The recycling industry in India, a Varanasi paper bag seller The recycling industry in India, a Varanasi paper bag seller
  • An example of the Chinese fishing nets of Cochin. Fisheries in India is a major industry in its coastal states, employing over 14 million people. The annual catch doubled between 1990 and 2010. An example of the Chinese fishing nets of Cochin. Fisheries in India is a major industry in its coastal states, employing over 14 million people. The annual catch doubled between 1990 and 2010.
  • A tea garden in Sikkim. India, the world's second largest-producer of tea, is a nation of one billion tea drinkers, who consume 70% of India's tea output. A tea garden in Sikkim. India, the world's second largest-producer of tea, is a nation of one billion tea drinkers, who consume 70% of India's tea output.
  • A daily wage worker in a salt field. The average minimum wage of daily labourers is around Rs.100 per day A daily wage worker in a salt field. The average minimum wage of daily labourers is around Rs.100 per day

India-related FPs VII

  • A bharatnatyam concert in 2014 A bharatnatyam concert in 2014
  • A Bondo woman walks to a weekly market in Chhattisgarh. A Bondo woman walks to a weekly market in Chhattisgarh.
  • A woman in Bundi, Rajasthan A woman in Bundi, Rajasthan
  • An ascetic in Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh An ascetic in Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh

India-related FPs VIII

India-related Classic Pictures-I

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India-related FPs X

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Buddha related FPs I

  • Battered religious figures stand watch on a hill above a tattered valley. Nagasaki, Japan. September 24, 1945 Battered religious figures stand watch on a hill above a tattered valley. Nagasaki, Japan. September 24, 1945
  • 17th century Painting on cloth of of Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis with Bodhisatvas in background. 17th century Painting on cloth of of Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis with Bodhisatvas in background.
  • The Gathering of Four Buddhas. 1562 CE, National Museum of Art, Korea. The Gathering of Four Buddhas. 1562 CE, National Museum of Art, Korea.
  • Two women walk past the huge cavity where one of the ancient Buddhas of Bamiyan used to stand, June 17, 2012. The monumental statues were built in A.D. 507 and 554 Two women walk past the huge cavity where one of the ancient Buddhas of Bamiyan used to stand, June 17, 2012. The monumental statues were built in A.D. 507 and 554

Buddha related FPs II

  • Monk walks in the morning after the rain in front of the Temple of the Emerald Buddha (Wat Phra Kaew), part of the Grand Palace, Bangkok, Thailand. Monk walks in the morning after the rain in front of the Temple of the Emerald Buddha (Wat Phra Kaew), part of the Grand Palace, Bangkok, Thailand.
  • Buddha Amitabha in His Pure Land of Suvakti, Central Tibet. 18th century; Ground mineral pigment on cotton Buddha Amitabha in His Pure Land of Suvakti, Central Tibet. 18th century; Ground mineral pigment on cotton
  • English: Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes. Tibet. Date 19th century English: Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes. Tibet. Date 19th century
  • Chiang Mai, Thailand: Buddhist Manuscript Library and Museum Chiang Mai, Thailand: Buddhist Manuscript Library and Museum

Things to do on 6/10/22

  • Thapa, Namrata; Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (2020), "Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of Sikkim and Darjeeling Hills (Gorkhaland Territorial Administration)", in Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (ed.), Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of India: Science History and Culture, Singapore: Springer Nature, ISBN 978-981-15-1485-2 and
  • Tamang, Jyoti P.; Sarkar, Prabir K; Hesseltine, Clifford W (1988). "Traditional Fermented Foods and Beverages of Darjeeling". Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture. 44 (4): 375–385. doi:10.1002/jsfa.2740440410.
  • Add something on Tibetan refugees in Darjeeling.

The relevant news, June 24, 2022

Executive Order No. 600: Protecting Access to Reproductive Health Care Services in the Commonwealth, DATE 06/24/2022, ISSUER: Charlie Baker, MASS REGISTER: No. 600 ... WHEREAS, the Constitution of the Commonwealth has long provided a guarantee of reproductive rights independent of and more expansive than any protection provided by the United States Constitution ... NOW, THEREFORE, I, Charles D. Baker, Governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution, Part 2, c. 2, § 1, Art. 1, do hereby order as follows: ...Given at the Executive Chamber in Boston this 24th day of June in the year of our Lord two thousand twenty-two and of the Independence of the United States of America two hundred forty-five.

Nomination for deletion of Template:Fowler image rotation

Template:Fowler image rotation has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:49, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: I only just saw your notice. I don't remember this template; it was probably some fledgling effort of mine. So, no big deal. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:40, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Request

Hello Fowler&Fowler! While patrolling new pages, I saw several pages that were formed by duplicating some existing articles, and I nominated some of them for AFD. I requested help on Misplaced Pages's Discord channels to check the reliability of these pages, and someone suggested I contact you. Could you please examine the sources of the Chalukiya and Chandela clan articles? These two articles appear to be clones of the Chalukya Dynasty and the Chandelas of Jejakabhukti, respectively. This same creator has created several more history-related articles that appear to be wholly fabricated and dubious. 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 04:29, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

A little strapped for time now, but will take a look later. A cursory reading of the first few sentences suggests efforts at murky caste upliftment. Don't know why they feel the need. We all humans came out of Africa, only recently separated in geological time from our primate cousins, bearing as Darwin put it, "in our bodily frame the indelible stamp of our lowly origin." Periyar, the South Indian crusader against caste, had said somewhere that the north Indian lower-castes (by which he meant all but the top two) have not had the guts to reject caste; they only want to inch upward in it. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:55, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

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A reminder in good faith

Ive been watching your comments and edits on Mahatma Gandhi. In quite a few of your comments and edit summaries, your "my way or the highway" behaviour is quite concerning. Also concerning is the fact that you consider (and loudly proclaim) your contributions to be far above those of others. I doubt that this is a good way of reaching a consensus. Have a good day, and I hope you keep this in mind and try to improve.
Cheers, Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 13:46, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

It might appear that way, but as WP:OWN states at the outset, "In many cases (but not all), single editors engaged in ownership conflicts are also primary contributors to the article, so keep in mind that such editors may be experts in their field or have a genuine interest in maintaining the quality of the article and preserving accuracy. An editor who appears to assume ownership of an article should be approached on the article's talk page with a descriptive header informing readers about the topic." Although I am not the primary contributor, I have spent time crafting different aspects of the article, and also of related articles, such as Assassination of Mahatma Gandhi, Herbert Reiner Jr, Dominion of India, British Raj. People are quick to assert rights (the right to be BOLD, the right to copy and paste, the right to edit war, the right to assert equality in every aspect of the WP endeavor) but not a peep is heard about responsibility (the responsibility of maintaining the article, of writing reasonably well-crafted summary-style precis, which takes years if not decades to hone.
Look at yourself @CapnJackSp:: you have no compunction leaving a superciliously preachy message on my talk page about my behavior, but—as you have been tinkering with the lead of Mahatma Gandhi, adding "Rashtra Pita," which I in the many years of my involvement in Indian history topics, have never seen mentioned in a scholarly history book—have you never thought about leaving a post here complementing me on my contributions to the Gandhi article? Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:37, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
While your contributions are not worthless, keep in mind that those do not empower you to talk down to others on the basis of the belief that you must be right. You may certainly know a lot about the topics you edit around, but the assumption you know enough to disregard others is incompatible with how we handle disputes.
It is good that you acknowledge that you were not the primary contributor to the article - Accepting that is a positive step. You should also try to work collaboratively when challenged. That would be quite an improvement.
As for the edit you pulled up, my phase was quite accurate. "Rashtra Pita" is used commonly in India for Gandhi. Your version, where you inserted "but not officially" was quite out of place. It was an improvement over your version which moved the wording closer back to the one before your edit while accommodating your "official" concerns.
Anyway, I doubt that this message will push you to improve drastically, but incremental improvements in behaviour would also be fine. :)
Cheers, Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 17:06, 20 July 2023 (UTC)