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Somewhat of another ]-like article. Violates ] quite severely and permanently. Article is unreferenced, the only source(s) cited are actually summaries of the radio show he "appears on". Also, there is the real possibility of failing ]. Let's not have Jimbo delete this one. ] 11:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
*If ''any'' of it is verifiable using reliable sources, '''merge''' into ] article. Otherwise, '''delete'''. ] - <b><FONT COLOR="#FF0000">St</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF5500">ar</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF8000">bli</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FFC000">nd</FONT></b> 13:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''Delete''' I agree completely, lets get this deleted ASAP ] 13:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
*I see no factual errors in the article, though the language could be cleaned up, especially the use of n****r term third paragraph in. {{unsignedIP|195.229.236.215}} {{spa|195.229.236.215}} | |||
DO NOT DELETE. No factual errors, and the article utilizes primary source show summaries. There are no better citations that could possibly exist. This subject is topical and relevant and should remain as a stand alone entry. {{unsignedIP|12.148.189.25}} {{spa|12.148.189.25}} | |||
**If "''There are no better citations that could possibly exist''", this will probably be deleted until citations are found (if ever). ] - <b><FONT COLOR="#FF0000">St</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF5500">ar</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF8000">bli</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FFC000">nd</FONT></b> 00:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''keep'''I think it fits: | |||
A large fan base, fan listing, or "cult" following. | |||
His fansites, myspace page, and SFN Forum back this one up. Additionally fans have made cartoons staring him, and songs using his dialouge. I think these qualify as a cult following. -] 00:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''Keep''' - For ], subject has a large fan base, fansites, and multiple works created around subject. As for ], and ], suggest '''stubbing''' article back to introduction, and possibly keeping own show section, since neither of those sections appear to be contentious. Then protect page until exhaustive search can be performed to cite any contentious material including wackipedia(sic) and balloons sections and attempt to reach consensus if possible. If that fails then '''merge''' what is left back into ]. Merging into wack pack now may cause problems since wack pack article currently poorly sourced as well.(] 04:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)) | |||
*'''Keep''' - I think Optigan13 said it best. ] 06:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''Keep''' - Agreed <small>— ] (] • ]) has made ] outside this topic. | |||
*'''Delete''' not notable. ] 07:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''Keep''' If individual Pokemon are notable enough to have their own articles, a regular guest caller (live, human, non-fictional) on one of the best known radio shows in the U.S. certainly is. ] 12:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
* '''STRONG KEEP''' The assertion that this article is poorly sourced is absurd. Look at the bottom of the article. It may need some cleaning up, but that is not a reason to delete it.<p>As far as notability is concerned, ] considers him to be ] in the world. He actually came out ahead of ]. ] 22:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
* '''STRONG KEEP''' Howard Stern is and has been listened to by millions and is internationally popular. Eric is a frequent, often daily, or weekly, segment of the show and no mere caller. He is not '''just''' a caller he is a notable caller on a notable program. Allegations of PoV are worthless here. The article only concerns Eric qua the Howard Stern Show and in so far as he is represented in that capacity this is as neutral as possible. Indeed, since he is '''only''' notable qua the Howard Stern Show neutrality need only concern itself with this aspect of him; it is not unneutral to fail to assess Eric from the point of view of his family, friends, or non-stern related figures because the point of view of these figures is not important in relation to the notable aspect of his existence.--] 09:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
* '''STRONG KEEP''' In addition the Howard Stern stuff, his appearance on American Dreams warranted him a page on IMDB. Surely that's enough to keep an article on him. ] 16:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC) {{spa|76.208.19.190}} | |||
* '''Keep''' Eric has become a larger part of the Howard Stern Show over the past few years, and figures prominently into many daily discussions & bits. Article should be cleaned up and better referenced, but definetly kept.--] 18:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
* '''Keep''' Well known to million of radio listeners of Howard Stern. Definitely deserving of a seperate page ] 05:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC) {{spa|68.238.221.221}} | |||
* '''STRONG KEEP''' This individual has become a mini-celebrity and has also been referenced on other non-Howard Stern related websites. ] 12:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''Merge''' to wack pack article and deleted all unsourced info. This article has too much fancruft in it, Eric does not pass the 10/100 test. Most keep arguments seem to be ] or ]. <span style="font-family:Arial; font-weight:bold; border:none; font-size:10pt; padding:2px; line-height:10pt; width:30em;">—] <sup><font color="#333399">]</font></sup></span> 05:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
*'''STRONGLY KEEP''' Eric is an important member of the show and one of the top whack packers. He was voted the number three midget of all time an appears on the Stern show almost daily. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 07:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
*'''STRONG KEEP'''~ He is a very important part of Stern Show history!! | |||
*'''Delete''' Unreferenced nonsence like this has no place on wikipedia. ] 12:57, 23 March 2007 (GMT) |
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Somewhat of another Brian Peppers-like article. Violates WP:BLP quite severely and permanently. Article is unreferenced, the only source(s) cited are actually summaries of the radio show he "appears on". Also, there is the real possibility of failing WP:BIO. Let's not have Jimbo delete this one. MER-C 11:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- If any of it is verifiable using reliable sources, merge into The Wack Pack article. Otherwise, delete. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete I agree completely, lets get this deleted ASAP Oskar 13:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- I see no factual errors in the article, though the language could be cleaned up, especially the use of n****r term third paragraph in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.229.236.215 (talk) This template must be substituted.
DO NOT DELETE. No factual errors, and the article utilizes primary source show summaries. There are no better citations that could possibly exist. This subject is topical and relevant and should remain as a stand alone entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.148.189.25 (talk) This template must be substituted.
- If "There are no better citations that could possibly exist", this will probably be deleted until citations are found (if ever). Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 00:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- keepI think it fits:
A large fan base, fan listing, or "cult" following.
His fansites, myspace page, and SFN Forum back this one up. Additionally fans have made cartoons staring him, and songs using his dialouge. I think these qualify as a cult following. -Hoponpop69 00:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - For notability, subject has a large fan base, fansites, and multiple works created around subject. As for WP:BLP, and reliable sources, suggest stubbing article back to introduction, and possibly keeping own show section, since neither of those sections appear to be contentious. Then protect page until exhaustive search can be performed to cite any contentious material including wackipedia(sic) and balloons sections and attempt to reach consensus if possible. If that fails then merge what is left back into The Wack Pack. Merging into wack pack now may cause problems since wack pack article currently poorly sourced as well.(Optigan13 04:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC))
- Keep - I think Optigan13 said it best. SLATE 06:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - Agreed — 80.184.25.193 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Delete not notable. ZBrannigan 07:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep If individual Pokemon are notable enough to have their own articles, a regular guest caller (live, human, non-fictional) on one of the best known radio shows in the U.S. certainly is. Riddley 12:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- STRONG KEEP The assertion that this article is poorly sourced is absurd. Look at the bottom of the article. It may need some cleaning up, but that is not a reason to delete it.
As far as notability is concerned, SomethingAwful.com considers him to be the third most famous little person] in the world. He actually came out ahead of Verne Troyer. Rglovejoy 22:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- STRONG KEEP Howard Stern is and has been listened to by millions and is internationally popular. Eric is a frequent, often daily, or weekly, segment of the show and no mere caller. He is not just a caller he is a notable caller on a notable program. Allegations of PoV are worthless here. The article only concerns Eric qua the Howard Stern Show and in so far as he is represented in that capacity this is as neutral as possible. Indeed, since he is only notable qua the Howard Stern Show neutrality need only concern itself with this aspect of him; it is not unneutral to fail to assess Eric from the point of view of his family, friends, or non-stern related figures because the point of view of these figures is not important in relation to the notable aspect of his existence.--Matt 09:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- STRONG KEEP In addition the Howard Stern stuff, his appearance on American Dreams warranted him a page on IMDB. Surely that's enough to keep an article on him. 76.208.19.190 16:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC) This template must be substituted.
- Keep Eric has become a larger part of the Howard Stern Show over the past few years, and figures prominently into many daily discussions & bits. Article should be cleaned up and better referenced, but definetly kept.--BrunoRT 18:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Well known to million of radio listeners of Howard Stern. Definitely deserving of a seperate page 68.238.221.221 05:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC) This template must be substituted.
- STRONG KEEP This individual has become a mini-celebrity and has also been referenced on other non-Howard Stern related websites. Ecnirpnaf99 12:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Merge to wack pack article and deleted all unsourced info. This article has too much fancruft in it, Eric does not pass the 10/100 test. Most keep arguments seem to be WP:ILIKEIT or WP:BIGNUMBER. —Ocatecir 05:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- STRONGLY KEEP Eric is an important member of the show and one of the top whack packers. He was voted the number three midget of all time an appears on the Stern show almost daily. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tofilmfan (talk • contribs) 07:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC).
- STRONG KEEP~ He is a very important part of Stern Show history!!
- Delete Unreferenced nonsence like this has no place on wikipedia. Greatestrowerever 12:57, 23 March 2007 (GMT)