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	== Oscar wins ==

	Hello all

	An editor has repeatedly tried to add a list of the Oscars won by the Oppenhemier film and actors in that film. My view is that this information belongs in the article about the film. This article already notes that there is a film about Oppenheimer and that is enough. This article is about the man, not the film. Also see ].

	Happy to discuss. ] (]) 22:35, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

	:I should add that the film and actors in it won numerous other awards, so why highlight the Academy Awards? Should we be implying that Oppenheimer is a more important historical figure because a film about him won an award? Should we be listing awards won by any books and films about Oppenheimer? ] (]) 22:53, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
	::Sounds reasonable to me. Some historical figures have become famous due to a film, but I don't think that Oppenheimer has. The article on the film should cover it. ] ] 01:08, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

	The paragraph gives the awards for a BBC production and the awards and nominations for an American documentary PBS production. So public tv awards are okay to show but commercial movie awards are not? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:24, 14 March 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	Not even a reply? ] (]) 17:03, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

	:The Oppenheimer movie Oscars are in the article. I see no harm with having a small separate section on Oppenheimer in popular culture. In that context there is no problem with noting the awards they have received. ] <small>(] • ])</small> 12:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
	:I played around with some possible restructuring, but the material on dramatizations and so on is too well integrated into the "Legacy" section, so the best thing to do is to leave as is. If it's not broke, don't fix it. ] <small>(] • ])</small> 20:56, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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Little Boy was a uranium, gun-type weapon, whereas Fat Man was a plutonium, implosion-style weapon. https://discover.lanl.gov/publications/the-vault/the-vault-2023/a-tale-of-two-bomb-designs/#:~:text=Little%20Boy%20was%20a%20uranium,plutonium%2C%20implosion%2Dstyle%20weapon. Little boy is stated as a imposion-style weapon in the article. But it was a gun type weapon. Alpbyren (talk) 16:47, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Not done The article clearly states that Little Boy was a gun-type weapon. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 16:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Re the NHK story about Oppenheimer and the 1964 physicist/translator recollections

Regarding the addition that has now been reverted four times, the original source is this piece from a few days ago from NHK, the Japanese public broadcasting company (akin to the BBC). A machine translation of the piece can be seen here. The story is that during the Hiroshima Nagasaki World Peace Pilgrimage that took place in 1964, atomic bomb survivors came to the United States. One of them was Naomi Shono, a theoretical physicist who desired a meeting, official or otherwise, with Oppenheimer. The NHK piece presents some documentary evidence that such a meeting was requested and was on a printed schedule. Shono subsequently said in a school alumni newsletter, date not given, that during the meeting Oppenheimer said he did not want to talk about Hiroshima or Nagasaki. The interpreter for the meeting, Yoko Teichler, said in a video statement recorded in 2015 that Oppenheimer had cried and repeatedly said "I'm sorry" during the meeting. NHK interviews a DePaul University professor who seems to give the translator's statement some credence.

NHK has a shorter version of the story in English. It's also been picked up here by Kyodo News and reproduced in several other Japanese or other foreign-language media outlets.

Of course, recollections given five decades after an event are fallible. It is worth watching to see if the NHK story gets picked up in the U.S. press or whether there is reaction to it from any Oppenheimer biographers. Wasted Time R (talk) 17:04, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

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