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: I deleted the second iteration because the game was first marketed in 1904, during the "1893-1912" era, and hence too early for the "1912-1923" era. ] (]) 17:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC) : I deleted the second iteration because the game was first marketed in 1904, during the "1893-1912" era, and hence too early for the "1912-1923" era. ] (]) 17:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

== Overall skepticism - too many things accepted un-critically ==

Most of this article reeks of un-critically accepting hearsay. Here's the worst example:
"When Gertrude became ill with tuberculosis, they used the readings after the doctor had given up and the treatment cured her."
Such a big bold statement requires some serious reference(s), or at least some weasel words like "apparently" or "according to ___".

And you can't just reference Sugrue & Cerminara: They didn't see Gertrude get cured.
In fact, major sections of this whole article are simply summaries of Sugrue and Cerminara; they should simply be prefaced as such.

I'm thinking this whole article needs one of those tags at the top, that says "This article suffers from major weaknesses etc". Any reason not to do that?? ] (]) 20:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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What is the correct story re: "Pit" card game?

The article gives two different versions re: the "Pit" card game. What is the correct story?:

"1893–1912: Kentucky period In May 1902, ... He invented Pit (or Board of Trade), a card game which simulated wheat-market trading. The game became popular, but when he sent the idea to a game company it copyrighted it and he received no royalties... "1912–1923: Selma period ... He invented Pit, a card game based on commodities trading at the Chicago Board of Trade, to help raise money; the game is still sold today." Bhami (talk) Bhami (talk) 02:29, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

I deleted the second iteration because the game was first marketed in 1904, during the "1893-1912" era, and hence too early for the "1912-1923" era. Catherineyronwode (talk) 17:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Overall skepticism - too many things accepted un-critically

Most of this article reeks of un-critically accepting hearsay. Here's the worst example:

 "When Gertrude became ill with tuberculosis, they used the readings after the doctor had given up and the treatment cured her."  

Such a big bold statement requires some serious reference(s), or at least some weasel words like "apparently" or "according to ___".

And you can't just reference Sugrue & Cerminara: They didn't see Gertrude get cured. In fact, major sections of this whole article are simply summaries of Sugrue and Cerminara; they should simply be prefaced as such.

I'm thinking this whole article needs one of those tags at the top, that says "This article suffers from major weaknesses etc". Any reason not to do that?? Jjjoyride (talk) 20:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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